Here's the article: "Must-See TV’: Free Drinks and Canceled Meetings for Comey’s Testimony."
I think the most important thing right now for Trump antagonists is to see if they can bring along the mass of ordinary Americans — people who are going to work and tending to their own affairs — to get them outraged and activated over "that thing" Trump and Comey might have had.
Toward that cause, I think sober attention and deep, patriotic concern should be the demeanor they would want to display to the public. . But here's the NYT:
The schedule has been cleared and the popcorn readied at Evergreen Partners, a strategic communications firm in central New Jersey, where the rule for employees on Thursday morning is simple: No client talk while James B. Comey is speaking.Incredible! Not just the hype and the too-early drooling for blood, but the disregard for the demands of working life for active, engaged American adults. Everything will be available on the internet this evening. Who are these people going public with their plan to take off from work and drink and watch a congressional hearing? This strikes me as utterly deranged (as well as creepily privileged). How is looking deranged and economically privileged going to draw in the ordinary Americans you're going to need if you're going to get this Destroy Trump bandwagon rolling?
“We canceled meetings when we saw what time it was on,” said the firm’s president, Karen J. Kessler, who is planning a cheese-and-crackers spread by her office’s 60-inch screen. “It’s must-see TV.”
Americans do not agree on much these days. But millions are expected to pause on Thursday to take in a spectacle already being compared to other political-cultural touchstones, like the Army-McCarthy hearings and Anita Hill’s testimony about Clarence Thomas.
“They really should declare a national holiday,” said Sally Quinn, the journalist and the doyenne of Washington’s social circuit, “since no work is going to get done.”Well, I'm not surprised a bar is encouraging daytime drinking. Saunders's idea sounds like something cooked up by a team on an "Apprentice" challenge (if "The Apprentice" ever had anything alcohol-related).
Enterprising establishments have been quick to capitalize on the Super Bowl-like atmosphere. At Union Pub in Washington, a sports bar steps from the Hart Senate Office Building, bartenders plan to dole out a free round of Budweisers or bourbon shots every time Mr. Trump blasts out a tweet.
For those wondering: No, there will not be a limit. “We’ll give out 20 rounds” if the president tweets 20 times, Ashley Saunders, the bar’s general manager, said in an interview.
As she spoke, Ms. Saunders was testing a way to create a huge display of Mr. Trump’s Twitter feed that would run alongside the live coverage on the bar’s 18 television screens — the better for her Capitol Hill clientele to follow any presidential play-by-play.
“I wouldn’t be surprised if people took half-days or take the day off,” Ms. Saunders said. “If I had a normal job, I don’t know what I’d be doing.”
In the lower paragraphs of the article, NYT tries to reach into Trump's America:
A dive bar 1,400 miles away from the nation’s capital, Jimmy’s is popular with military veterans like Doug Samuels, a retired Navy officer who voted for Mr. Trump. Nursing a Bud Light on Wednesday, Mr. Samuels said he was unlikely to watch the Comey broadcast live.He sounds so sober. By the way, what weird writing: "he said, a display of pro-Trump bumper stickers on a nearby table’s legs." When Sally Quinn says something, the "said" clause is followed by "the journalist and the doyenne of Washington’s social circuit." When the guy 1,400 miles out of Washington says something, the "said" clause is followed by something about what's on the leg of nearby table.
“I’d rather just listen to the pundits discuss it afterward,” he said, a display of pro-Trump bumper stickers on a nearby table’s legs.
There may be real pro-Trump stickers on the table legs at Jimmy's, but there are metaphorical anti-Trump stickers all over The New York Times.
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Bunch of New York Hillbillies.
Brilliant analysis.
Today is the day they are finally going to see the pony! For realz!
I have my own law practice. Just got a 55 inch tv for the conference room and not planning on watching any of this circus. Have work to do.
Making America Drunk Again. Trump is the leader in everything.
But will we get tired of winning and toasting it with champaign???
Democrats may "sympathize" with the working class, but they don't "empathize" with them. That's why Trump voters are such a mystery to them. No matter what they say it comes out wrong because they have zero empathy for working class Pennsylvanians, for example, who are far more. worried about a buddy who is a coal miner losing his job, than some ass-wipe at ESPN who thought Hank Williams Jr should be banned from Monday Night Football.
Sympathy without empathy = condescension.
Trump Derangement in full bloom.
"I wonder what people with real jobs are doing ?"
Progressivism is their religion, the Democrat party is their denomination, politics is their liturgy, Alinsky's "Rules for Radicals" is their "Sermon in the Mount" and this is their Holy Week. The bells are ringing from the steeples of the media and the faithful will gather for their eucharistic celebration.
"They really should declare a national holiday,” said Sally Quinn, the journalist and the doyenne of Washington’s social circuit, “since no work is going to get done.”
Will obama's national security/deep state leakers be taking a day off too?
Like so much the left has done and become since November, this is both funny, and at the same time, sad.
Nothing will be revealed today. Were it possible to unseat Trump, anything remotely damaging would have come out months ago. They fired their bullets, threw all of the rocks, and are now clawing the ground for clods of dirt and spitting. And they think they are winning.
Pitiful.
Tomorrow's headline: Dozens Die of Alcohol Poisoning Caused By President Trump's Tweets
Bread and circuses. Or booze and politics. Either way.
The successor to so many things, like "Electors will not be true to Trump".
Hope springs eternal that something, something, will derail Trump.
This should be as fun as the recall Walker parties on the night of the recall election. Meanwhile us deplorable just go on with our lives.
What's really going to be sad for the Left is when it's over and it turns out like Geraldo Rivera opening up Al Capone's vault.
"There may be real pro-Trump stickers on the table legs at Jimmy's, but there are metaphorical anti-Trump stickers all over The New York Times."
From 935 miles away, I'm seeing metaphorical anti-American stickers all over The NYT.
A nearby table, its legs swollen with Trump stickers, seemed to course through his veins on a visceral level.
MadisonMan....this is bizarre. They continue to cheer lead and hope for an overturn of the last election.
FTR: being 5 years older than The Professor, I remember well the Army-McCarthy hearings broadcast live uninterrupted in midday. I was at Grandmother's house in Ansley Park. It was all that was on. It intrigued me at age 8, because I liked Ike, and he faced. the original disinformation con-man attemptto bring down the Presidency of USA for being a Soviet owned nest of traitors facing the last honest man in DC charade put by Tail Gunner Joe..
McCarthy rode his secret list of Communists threat exactly the same way CNN and friends are riding the Clinton/ Obama disinformation horse.
"How is looking deranged and economically privileged going to draw in the ordinary Americans you're going to need if you're going to get this Destroy Trump bandwagon rolling?"
To do the work of connecting with peope in the heartland is beyond them. They know it. Their fate is sealed.
The miracle of mpeachment is all they have. If that doesn't come to pass, they will dress up in their finery, drink themselves happy, and go down with the ship. There is nothing left for them even if they could survive the frigid waters and make it to shore.
Meade, the NYT and its readers a citizens of the world.
Anyone here believe that "Mr Samuels" even exists? I don't.
I was interviewed by a NYTz reporter during the 2000 recount protests. He turned me into 3 different people in the article.
No Gellman Amnesia Effect here. The NYTs is fiction. Also, not buying stock from the broker that pitched me Enron. Why do people still use the likes of CNN and the NYTs as information brokerz? And why do those hacks still have jobs?
"Paris, not Pittsburgh!"
"A nearby table, its legs swollen with Trump stickers, seemed to course through his veins on a visceral level."
An example of what sets great commenters apart from the pack.
In 2004, I wandered over to Copley Square and watched Kerry supporters celebrate his victory. The Black Eyed Peas were singing "Let's Get Retarded" and everyone was full of joy, dancing like recently paroled in a juke joint.
And then the returns came in....
Do they even list the city of the "dive bar" 1400 miles away? So we can check the table legs for Trump stickerz?
No? How convenient...
Why do people still use the likes of CNN and the NYTs as information brokerz? And why do those hacks still have jobs?
We don't use them to find out what is true, but we do use them to know what our self-appointed betters are thinking.
The election was stolen from poor poor poor poor poor poor Hillary.
Work back from there. All the sad wish-fact seeking lefties need drinks, CNN and Rachel "hands up don't shoot - The Russians and Trump colluded" Maddow.
How is looking deranged and economically privileged going to draw in the ordinary Americans you're going to need if you're going to get this Destroy Trump bandwagon rolling?
Deranged and privileged is correct. Ordinary people have to work, take kids to school, do things during the day, have lives that don't revolve 24/7 around hating particular political figures , and are not so enmeshed in ideology that they can't see straight. Hating Trump all the time. It must be so tedious. Trump derangement syndrome is a real thing.
Who can afford to take off work in the morning to drink and listen to yet another partisan, political hack filled clown show? Whose bosses are going to allow this? Only the wealthy and the privileged. The rest of us are sling hash, picking up the garbage, standing on our feet clerking in a boring job.
We all view these deranged and privileged as weird beings from another planet. Beings that we really don't want to get too close to either. Strange people who seem more than a bit off kilter.
My husband and I may listen to the hearings for a bit while doing other things here. But...it is 7am!!! not the middle of a work day. We will have more coffee, breakfast, get ready for WORK and laugh at the deranged and privileged.
caplight @ 8:28 - hahahaha. That's perfect.
Yes, because turning everything around Trump into a circus of hysterics has worked so well for the Left. When do they catch on? Or is the addiction too gratifying to resist, despite the self-destruction it brings?
Scranton is nearly commuter distance from NYC, Allentown too. Just sayin' you ignorant bints at the New York Times.
Reminds me of the famous New Yorker cover.
Meade: "From 935 miles away, I'm seeing metaphorical anti-American stickers all over The NYT."
Carrots. What can't they do?
lunatic alert. wow. What in the world do they expect will happen? Did they notice that Comey's prepared remarks contained nothing but good news for Mr. Trump? Do they think it will get better when Republican Senators start questioning Comey?
Fen said...
Do they even list the city of the "dive bar" 1400 miles away? So we can check the table legs for Trump stickerz?
No? How convenient...
You can swing an arc through Flyover Country from Texas to North Dakota. It's in there somewhere. Wouldn't make a difference where to the Acela Corridor folks.
I actually agree with your analysis here Ann.
There are Establishment Hillbillies...and Sally Quinn has positioned herself for decades (thanks to her marriage to Ben) to be the Clueless Queen of them.
The Daytime Drinking meme is just an effort to normalize Hillary!.
"They really should declare a national holiday,” said Sally Quinn, the journalist and the doyenne of Washington’s social circuit
One wonders who exactly Mme Defarge supposes to be the "they" who are in a position to declare a national holiday.
"It makes you look desperate."
-- Don Draper
Who are these people going public with their plan to take off from work and drink and watch a congressional hearing? This strikes me as utterly deranged (as well as creepily privileged). How is looking deranged and economically privileged going to draw in the ordinary Americans you're going to need if you're going to get this Destroy Trump bandwagon rolling?
Probably law firms, and the associates will bill their clients for the time anyway.
Meadehouse is funny.
Ya don't wanna oversell. It's a tell.
If ya want to make the point that there's nothing to see here, so move along, you can't be so riled up yourself.
Especially when anyone who can fog a monitor can imagine Meadehouse and such if BHO or HRC had been the ones w/ Putin passion and/or Comey crushin'.
It's like the snake Bill on a Lynch plane, but times a hundred...cause the actual person in power re puttin' pressure, over and over--ending w/ the axe drop.
So, dial back the anti-hyperventilating hyperventilating = keep it sorta believable-ish.
Duh.
Will the self-aggrandizing media ever see themselves as they are? Do they know how despised they are? Not because they are anti-Trump but because they are dishonest and incompetent.
HRC had been the ones w/ Putin passion and/or Comey crushin'.
LOL! How many millions did she take from the Russians? Why exactly did Comey decide that even if what she did was a crime, she shouldn't be prosecuted? Oh year, because as Secretary of Fucking State, she didn't understand the laws governing her job, just a girl!
Nobody but Inga, not even toothless, is buying your defense of HRC, and I bet neither Inga is buying it either.
I am sick of providing elaborate links for you to ignore, but feel free to google Clinton Cash for the New York Times story.
Not "even if it was a crime" but "even though it was a crime" what HRC did.
McCarthy rode his secret list of Communists threat exactly the same way CNN and friends are riding the Clinton/ Obama disinformation horse.
Yes, I agree. But there really were communists in the FDR administration and maybe a few still in Truman's
In 2004, I wandered over to Copley Square and watched Kerry supporters celebrate his victory.
In 2004 just before the election, my daughter-in-law was visiting her girlfriend who lived on Beacon Hill. They were sitting up in their PJs gossiping when they heard Kerry's motorcade return to his mansion on Louisburg Square. They threw on robes and ran down the hill in slippers to watch. When they got there, the cops and SS guys wandered over to visit. Here are two cute girls in robes and slippers so they had quite a chat,
The cops were regaling them with stories of police calls to Kerry's mansion when his wife would have drunken rages and throw things at him like Hillary used to do to Bill in the White House. They told the girls they had a couple of calls a month to the Kerry mansion.
Good times. Maybe today will be similar.
My prediction: This thread is going to escalate quickly.
This TV show needs some Apprentice Drama. Trump should fly Chris Wray into town and produce him in the audience holding up a You're Fired and Hereby Replaced sign.
Tomorrow's headline:
Black Friday
Americans hug, cry as Comey's testimony falls short of making Hillary President.
Virt U,
She received three emails that were marked classified at the time (she sent zero), these had a hand written "c" next to isolated paragraphs in the body that contained the confidential (the lowest level of three classification levels) info, and the State Dep later said that only one of these three emails were correctly labeled, the other two shouldn't have had any excerpts labeled w/ "c."
So, sure, lock her up.
Carry on.
"said Sally Quinn, the journalist and the doyenne"
So that's what they're calling "retired mistress who slept her way to the middle" these days.
What the hell is wrong with these people? Just when I think their behavior can't get any more bizarre, they practically declare a national holiday/bacchanalia over what is most likely going to amount to nothing. I mean, what do they imagine is going to happen here?
"She received three emails that were marked classified at the time (she sent zero),"
It's kind of sad to see the true believers still holding on like Masada.
Not to worrry. The hearing will fall flat for most Americans but there will be some little nugget dropped by Comey that will keep hope alive. CNN will be reporting on the nightly news that impeachment is guaranteed. The Democrats are the party of not letting a good crisis go to waste.
"By the way, what weird writing: "he said, a display of pro-Trump bumper stickers on a nearby table’s legs." When Sally Quinn says something, the "said" clause is followed by "the journalist and the doyenne of Washington’s social circuit." When the guy 1,400 miles out of Washington says something, the "said" clause is followed by something about what's on the leg of nearby table."
What a weird complaint. Both clauses capture the respective milieu of each speaker. A "Washington social circuit" is hardly more complimentary than the atmosphere of a Trump-friendly dive bar. Aside from the Trump-friendliness, I'd rather be in the dive bar. The piece highlights one small slice of America today, as valid as any other. Isn't dismissing the worlds of fellow Americans a usual complaint? I will never understand the purpose or appeal of these strained contortions that appear over and over here.
Doc Mike,
Are you saying that she received or sent more than that that were marked w/ classifications at the time?
FYI, I'm also a true believer that the earth is round. How about you?
Who are these people going public with their plan to take off from work and drink and watch a congressional hearing?
On the plus side, this would make the Angel of the Lord's job easier.
"Are you saying that she received or sent more than that that were marked w/ classifications at the time?"
-- Most likely yes. We'll never know as the evidence was deliberately tampered with and we know that at least one laptop was hidden from investigators (in the Weiner/Abedin household) instead of properly handed over.
There hasn't been this much excitement since Sarah Palin's emails were released to the press.
BTW, Doc Mike et. al.,
If ya want ta figure out who is a true believer who was conned re the HRC kerfuffle, just look to what the DJT administration did as soon as they won.
I thought that they shoulda made some sorta soft landing as a stepdown so y'all wouldn't see that you'd be fed BS.
But, I was wrong. DJT knows y'all very well. No BS is too much BS.
"I will never understand -"
No, you won't. And it's not worth the time and energy necessary to deprogram you. Next time the media announces that chocolate rations have been increased from 8 grams to 6, don't think too hard on it. And whatever you do, don't be the first to stop clapping.
"I think sober attention and deep, patriotic concern should be the demeanor they would want to display to the public." Funny stuff.
"utterly deranged" That's more like it.
And all this time, they ain't gut nuttin'.
It is a speech show put by the DC Swamp setting out a Total Resistance standard to DJT and his voters using every false psyops method known.
No wonder Trump uses Twitter so much.
The viewing parties fill a much-needed gap. Our political parties already have team colors and mascots; all they needed was Super Bowl parties. Will we see stories afterward about which company's new ads were the best?
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/11/16/us/politics/the-two-americas-of-2016.html?_r=0
She could have read in the New York Times that she needn't travel a thousand miles to get to Trump country. And BTW, if the Russian Agents were furiously targeting only key districts in the "Blue Wall" why did so many other demographically similar areas in states where they were overwhelmed by cities voting for Hillary also go for Trump? Did the Russians waste a shit ton of money just for verisimilitude?
Peanut Butters:
Like I said, the Secretary of Fucking State shouldn't be expected to have the judgement to know what should and shouldn't be classified. Nor is it any problem that she destroyed records of meetings with foreigners in State Department burn bags and deleted 30K emails that likely contained correspondence with people who gave her large amounts of money while she was Secretary of State.
But you keep defending her! Somebody has to watch that empty punch bowl so it doesn't get broken!
He pursues the whale around both sides of the earth. It's an abstract goal, nothing concrete or definite. He calls Moby the emperor, sees him as the embodiment of evil...
Whale oil is used to anoint the kings. History of the whale, phrenology, classical philosophy, pseudo-scientific theories, justification for discrimination – everything thrown in and none of it hardly rational. Highbrow, lowbrow, chasing illusion, chasing death, the great white whale, white as polar bear, white as a white man, the emperor, the nemesis, the embodiment of evil. The demented captain who actually lost his leg years ago trying to attack Moby with a knife.
We see only the surface of things. We can interpret what lies below any way we see fit. Crewmen walk around on deck listening for mermaids, and sharks and vultures follow the ship. Reading skulls and faces like you read a book. Here's a face. I'll put it in front of you. Read it if you can.
@3rdGrader, if the Secretary of State is not sending and receiving extremely highly classified information then she can't possibly be doing her job, can she?
The Cracker Emcee wrote:
"Yes, because turning everything around Trump into a circus of hysterics has worked so well for the Left. When do they catch on? Or is the addiction too gratifying to resist, despite the self-destruction it brings?"
Addiction is certainly a part of it- addiction to camaraderie is a real thing. And the peer pressure of the group basically prevents any member of the group standing up and pointing out to the others the inconvenient facts.
Given Comey's testimony from early May just before he was fired, no one with an IQ above 85 should have been expecting him to come in today and tell Congress that Trump obstructed the investigation. Given the written testimony released yesterday, no one with a pulse should expect that this morning, and I write that as someone who is just about certain that Comey will try to lean his testimony as anti-Trump as he can get away with, but Comey was always constrained today by what he had previously said publicly.
She received three emails that were marked classified at the time (she sent zero
This bullshit came out at the end of the Summer and nobody would put their name on it. Since Hillary conducted all her SOS business on her private servers, what are the odds that only 3 classified messages would have been received over 4 years? And recall, Hillary had years to clean up the drives as the FBI didn't get around to confiscating them or even bothering to haul her in for an interview. If Comey had any honor, they would have found him hanging from a rope on his balcony's rail.
Big M,
They use sipper and nipper.
They still shouldn't use a .gov email server, even if it is setup. Just cause the server may not be third party and located in HRC's bathroom (or wherever), a normal State Dept .gov email isn't safe for classified info.
There were emails from Obama to her server. Which is why she skated, BTW. Isn't correspondence between POTUS and SOS automatically classified? Shouldn't Hilary know that?
Enlightening that Democrats would rather drag Hillary's political corpse around the square one more time than talk about the lack of evidence against Trump. Basically the whole case amounts to "If you hadn't of believed it, you wouldn't have seen it."
Darrell,
That came from Comey's July testimony.
Ya know, the stuff that got him fired cause he made such an unfair attack on HRC.
At least that was the initial story the WH was feed y'all.
I hope this gets a ton of press. There's nothing better for America than the left revealing who they are and what they believe.
It drips of elitism so extreme that it is a political and cultural statement about the NYT, and not about much else. They have achieved nearly perfect irrelevance.
Miners, oilfield workers, manufacturing workers, truck drivers, bus drivers, all healthcare workers, all retail workers, farmers, 99% of all bank employees, commodity traders, utility workers, rail employees, warehouse employees, all postal employees, teachers, phone system workers, internet service techs, daycare workers, private courier service workers, taxi drivers, restaurant workers, military personnel and civilian military employees - all these people will be on the job.
The staff of the NYT thinks "everyone" is all those people without whom the nation can easily get along. This will not end well, politically or for the staff of the NYT. Are they really trying to mount a demonstration of how WE DON'T NEED THEIR CLIENTELE? Seriously, is that the message to convey to all those "deplorable" voters?
It certainly is ADVERSE to the interests of the Democratic party, as Ann remarks. They really are eating their own. At some point, this group has to drop the Waiting for Godot shtick and get serious. As it is, they are just schlonging themselves.
For the Dems the mere existence of a fired FBI director at congressional hearings is a success. It advances the KAOS meme perfectly adequately, which is all they really need. They don't want Trump impeached or even to resign. They want to ride Trump back into power. This helps, even if it is a nothingburger.
Maybe the folks who are "taking the day off" are just lazy.
The problem with arguing with Peanut Butter is that he is unpersuadable and will never look at any piece of evidence that he thinks has the possibility of changing his mind. Still it is fun to make it look like there are more than a couple Democrats still defending Hillary.
At Union Pub in Washington, a sports bar steps from the Hart Senate Office Building, bartenders plan to dole out a free round of Budweisers or bourbon shots every time Mr. Trump blasts out a tweet.
About every 5-10 minutes Trump should blast out a tweet - "This tweet is good for a free Bud or bourbon shot over at Union Pub - watch for more tweets - one offer per tweet, no limit."
They want to ride Trump back into power. This helps...
Maybe, maybe not. The Dems did very well in. a mid-term right after it looked like the Republicans had gone over the top going after Clinton.
BTW, I owe you some rebuttals ARM, on the temp graph and my summary of your position. So look for it in an upcoming cafe.
Comey exceeding Dem expectations at the moment.
@alan Markus, Trump needs you on his staff immediately!
Wouldn't it be cool if years from now we find out that DJT is some sorta performance artist?
At first it was really interesting to see him immediately abandon all this "lock her up" hullabaloo. And, none of ya flinched. Then, his administration had to up their game--they decided to fire Comey and claim this was done because he had been too mean to HRC re the email stuff. Still none of ya flinch.
Now what could they do to further test your unquestioning loyalty?
"They want to ride Trump back into power. This helps, "
If you say so. The Democrats have become unmoored for logic and common sense.
It is sad and scary to see so many people with educations (although finding evidence of same can be difficult) act out such bizarre fantasies.
Personally, I think the 2018 elections will be a disaster for Democrats but we will see.
I will not be surprised to see a full blown Socialist third party emerge.
That came from Comey's July testimony.
Did Comey explain why he never confiscated all the hard drives? Or called her in for an interview? Like he would have done with any other person in the USA? Was he even asked?
Deranged and creepily privileged...
Thanks, Ann. I'll be using that.
Kevin said...
To do the work of connecting with people in the heartland is beyond them. They know it. Their fate is sealed.
Yes, yes, but no. They intend to import new voters who will be so grateful to be here they'll vote Democratic no matter how bad their policies.
Ray Wise should arrange a visit with all the key players in the Obama Administration on a bowling alley. No need for any VW Bugs in the parking lot, 'cause nobody's leaving.
Sal said
There hasn't been this much excitement since Sarah Palin's emails were released to the press.
Now we got her. We have 25,000 emails she sent and received as governor. There will be all kinds of smoking guns in there. Lets get some volunteers to help us read all 25,000 and we'll show that uppity bitch who doesn't know her place.
{5 days later} Ahhhh never mind. Turns out she was a pretty good administrator.
And you know what? No matter what happens this week, Hillary will still not be President.
@ ARM
"This helps, even if it is a nothingburger."
It should be noted that tails ARM wins and heads we lose is now official.
Further, ARM believes the MSM gets to drive the narrative and that people will believe them. Yet, if we read Althouse's response to this article, the MSM can't even produce a piece that will fool a lifelong and sympathetic reader, a retired university professor no less.
Grab your carry on.
"For the Dems the mere existence of a fired FBI director at congressional hearings is a success."
The sad, but true state of the party.
Also, every moment spent holding hearings and talking about Trump investigations is a moment not spent talking and holding hearings about investigations into wrong doing during the previous administration.
There was a syndicated op-ed this past week. Who the Democrats need to win back to win elections. There was more to the column than this, but it ended up talking about the extreme pro-choice views of Democrat leadership. How from Tom Perez on down, there is absolutely no room for anyone who has even moderate middle-of-the-road pro-life views.
I am extremely tired of all this. This is nothing but inside-the-Beltway theatrics. I am paying no attention to it. I have quit watching news altogether; quit following a number of Facebook "friends" of long-standing who could just not stop with the fake news political postings; and have even cancelled some online publication subscriptions because I couldn't take it anymore. If I did not have children, grandchildren, and family to look after for the rest of my life I would be emigrating. This country is broken and I fear will never recover.
@3rdGrader, hard to say which is more awe-inspiring -- your ignorance of federal laws governing retention of records (which includes Email), or your ignorance of best cyber-security practices.
Somebody should ask Comey how many of Obama's Dept. Heads were running private servers. We know of at least three, including Hillary. As our Nation's top law enforcement official, he should have looked into it as the pattern emerged.
Darrell,
Ah, another Fargo fan, I see.
@MountainMan, but you do have children and grandchildren so now's the time to build a better world for them. The Dumbocrats are counting on your fatigue; you don't have to do a lot if everyone does something then the bad guys lose.
And I see that ARM has seen the light. Those grapes were sour anyway, weren't they, ARM?
Grassley is thinking of subpoenaing Comey.
That could get interesting and more hard hitting.
"@3rdGrader, hard to say which is more awe-inspiring -- your ignorance of federal laws governing retention of records (which includes Email), or your ignorance of best cyber-security practices."
Big M,
Could you shoot out a memo to the DJT administration that lays out your legal and security knowledge? I'm sure that as soon as you set them straight HRC will be locked up.
Carry on.
"They use sipper and nipper."
-- Except Clinton did not; she conducted all business on her own router. Even sending emails to the president, who was using a pseudonym when he corresponded with her.
It's a shame that Trump can't monetize all this hype and attention. In my lifetime I never saw anyone who could GARNER so much attention from people on all sides. He may be climbing right over top of Elvis as the most well known person in history. Trump may be a new species of human being that lives not only in the physical realm but walks, or rather stomps around the zeitgeist like an opera star on stage - at least in the collective and individual minds of the left.
Mr. Samuels shows a hell of a lot more intelligence than Ms. Kessler.
I will also note that the patronizing way they characterize Mr. Samuels and his bar is evidence of their supposedly new-found interest in covering fly-over country. They used to ignore it, now they denigrate it, and that is supposed to be progress.
What fools, what children these people are. And they condescend to the rest of us.
It's like the reception for Miss Havisham's wedding.
"Deranged and creepily privileged"
Isn't it amazing how blind they are to that? That used to be, something people were very sensitive to and they cringe at the suggestion that they were like that. Now, as Trump has caused all standards and pretenses on the left to evolve into inconvenient baggage to be discarded, they are free to be consumed with their singular rai·son d'ê·tre: destroy him.
Watching the pundits but not the event itself is part of the problem. Because we choose our pundits, and they say sweet things in our ears.
I just came back to offer this link to another NYT article, which reviews the actual Democratic "base" problems as they emerged in the post-electoral analysis of the 2016 general election. Bottom line: working class defection not confined to whites. I think it very much supports Ann's critique of the featured article.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/opinion/the-democratic-party-is-in-worse-shape-than-you-thought.html?_r=0
Sifting through the wreckage of the 2016 election, Democratic pollsters, strategists and sympathetic academics have reached some unnerving conclusions.
What the autopsy reveals is that Democratic losses among working class voters were not limited to whites; that crucial constituencies within the party see its leaders as alien; and that unity over economic populism may not be able to turn back the conservative tide.
This strikes me as utterly deranged (as well as creepily privileged). How is looking deranged and economically privileged going to draw in the ordinary Americans you're going to need if you're going to get this Destroy Trump bandwagon rolling?
You're trying to demand that the "elite" and "meritocratic" left treat the rest of the country as if they're actual people, with actual, valid, concerns.
But as the rest of us are just a "basket of deplorables", that's crazy talk.
This is what happens when politics becomes your religion, as it has for the Left. Their complete inability to have even the slightest shed of empathy for The Other drives everything they do, from Identity Politics (skin color and sex define us, there's no reaching across those lines), to support for the antifa and other speech restrictions (we possess the only correct beliefs, therefore no one who disagrees with us should be allowed to speak), to The Resistance (we have all the correct ideas, there's no way any Republican can have legitimate power).
As you note, this mentality makes it difficult for them to win politically. Which means we're headed for a huge blowup.
One where they'r going to find they can't win a physical fight, either
3rdGradePB_GoodPerson babbled...
She received three emails that were marked classified
Are you determinedly ignorant, or just utterly dishonest?
Whether or not something is MARKED classified is utterly irrelevant.
I'm going to repeat that for you, just in case you're really slow:
Whether or not something is MARKED classified is utterly irrelevant.
When you sign the paperwork giving you the clearances she had, you get told about "inherently classified" information, such as anything repeating what a foreign leader said in private to US Gov't officials.
Hillary absolutely knew that she would be receiving classified data when she set up her server. She set it up anyway because nothing was more important to her than her ability to set up corrupt deals as SoS, and then hide the trail from FOIA.
She should be in jail.
And when you say "marked classified" you define yourself as a dishonest / stupid / ignorant left wing hack.
Democratic losses among working class voters were not limited to whites; that crucial constituencies within the party see its leaders as alien
That's because they are.
For instance, google "Lena Dunham parents art" and gaze at the weirdness. Definitely NSFW. Her parents are famous artists. They help define what is acceptable in contemporary art. Members, in good standing, of the over-class. Or that Spirit Cooking thing. I read a piece in New York Mag purporting to debunk that it was occult. Just wild, wacky performance art. OK, well guess what, to anybody in flyover country, that performance art is disgusting. But hey, the over-class likes it.
Something is wrong with over-class culture, and in the Internet age, people are finding out about it.
Who are these people going public with their plan to take off from work and drink and watch a congressional hearing?
It's not so much "take off from work" or "drink" that I object to. Sounds like fun! Stick it to the man! Hobos for Dukakis!
What I object to is "watch a congressional hearing."
You want to talk about corruption and decadence, look what your concept of fun is now, NYT. Oh my God. What is wrong with you people?
If I was an ear worm, climbing into your NYT skull, checking it out for a possible home, this is what I would see.
Pride! Giant walls of pride. I don't know if I can get in there, with those giant inflexible walls of pride. Let me keep slithering along. Oh shit, it's ennui. A giant slime-wall of ennui. Drip, drip, drip. Oh shit, I'm in an echo chamber. It's a giant echo chamber! And they're cheering? What? Oh yes, it's the fall of the republic. Hip hip, hooray! Hip hip, hooray! Oh no, it's waves of alcohol and bile, sloshing into the echo chamber. What a disgusting unholy mess of bile and agitation and now I'm worried about repeating the word "bile" in one paragraph, teacher is watching, oh shit it's turning colors, kinda brown now, got to get out. Get out, get out!
And I'm off to the swimming pool. Because it's a nice day.
Trump should be bratty and just tweet out "Drink" 50 times to put the bar in the red. OTOH, Trump doesn't drink and hence probably doesn't like to encourage drinking. But it would be fun.
"Nice legs, table!" (Overheard at the Deplorable Bar & Grill, somewhere in South Montbraska.)
The dem/media are silly, small-minded folk absolutely sure that this latest lottery ticket is the 'Winner'....sheesh
"Will the self-aggrandizing media ever see themselves as they are? Do they know how despised they are? Not because they are anti-Trump but because they are dishonest and incompetent."
Self aggrandizing? Yes,Trump.
Dishonest? Yes, Trump.
Despised, hell yes Trump.
Is Trump incompetant? YES
Do the Trumpist sychophants realize how much they resemble the "deplorables"?
greg,
Bro, you talking to the wrong person. Could you send your analysis to the DJT administration?
As soon as you dazzle them w/ brilliance by explaining the situation to them, I'm sure they'll agree w/ you and recognize their mistake, and then crooked HRC will be prosecuted and locked up.
Carry on.
"Sally Quinn, the journalist and the doyenne of Washington’s social circuit"
I hate this sentence for two reasons:
1. I had to look up "doyenne"
2. I had to look up Sally Quinn
I wasted 3 minutes of my day because NY Times fawned over some DC lifer.
Just to be clear:
Democrats - like Geraldo Rivera opening Al Capone's vault - are walking around right now asking why they were given so much hope that something wonderful was about to be revealed. The Comey vault was empty.
The paucity of comments by Leftists makes me sad. We need new goal posts, stat!!
Do the Trumpist sychophants realize how much they resemble the "deplorables"?
Hey look, the pussy hat lady thinks we are deplorable! Film at 11!
I hear Hillary is looking for a title for her threatened memoire. "Detestable Me" sounds about right.
Here they all took the day off to flood comment sections with gloating recaps of Bloody Thursday... The Day Trump Went Down!
I hear Democrats are offering her a record-breaking advance to not write the book.
Huh, a couple of days ago there was an article in SFGate talking about how bars would be open early for people to watch the testimony. It's almost like the news is coordinated.
If your entire day is centered around the Comey testimony, you need to get a fucking life.
Could you shoot out a memo to the DJT administration that lays out your legal and security knowledge?
Well, the relevant law is the Federal Records Act, which defines the requirements for records retention. During the time that Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State the definition of a federal record was:
"... all books, papers, maps, photographs, machine-readable materials, or other documentary materials, regardless of physical form or characteristics ..."
As to my own knowledge of InfoSec, I have designed and developed information systems going back thirty-five years, mostly systems intended to hold sensitive (healthcare) or classified (Dept. of Defense) information. I have numerous publications or presentations in refereed technical journals, such as the IEEE Systems Journal. There are plenty of people who know more than I do, but apparently you are not one of them, PB.
There are plenty of people who know more than I do, but apparently you are not one of them, PB.
I could hear the fish smacking the face all the way over here.
:)
Before the Iraq invasion, there were stories relating that some Iraqis were buying large screen TVs in preparation for watching the evil Americans' deaths at the hands of Saddam's army.
This article sounds much the same, with the Elites gleefully expecting the demise of the guy who'd presume to drain the swamp.
Reality and lefties are mutually exclusive.
Sally Quinn--another woman who slept her way to the top (such as it is)--is still the doyenne of Washington's social circuit? That's just sad. The social circuit, like much else in the capital, must be in terminal decline.
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