Althouse: Obama "didn't 'choke,' he colluded or obstructed, and it did the Dems and Crooked Hillary no good."

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Obama "didn't 'choke,' he colluded or obstructed, and it did the Dems and Crooked Hillary no good."

4 Trump tweets from a few hours ago:

1. "The reason that President Obama did NOTHING about Russia after being notified by the CIA of meddling is that he expected Clinton would win.."

2. "...and did not want to 'rock the boat.' He didn't 'choke,' he colluded or obstructed, and it did the Dems and Crooked Hillary no good."

3. "The real story is that President Obama did NOTHING after being informed in August about Russian meddling. With 4 months looking at Russia..."

4. "..under a magnifying glass, they have zero 'tapes' of T people colluding. There is no collusion & no obstruction. I should be given apology!"

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wildswan বলেছেন...: "Swede said...
What if the Russians went to Obama and showed him what they had gotten off of Hillary's pissoir server?"

This has always been one of my questions. I mean why do we think that the Russians would hack away at our election process and they wouldn't hack into a server that exposed the thinking and the emails of the Secretary of State? Including emails with material at levels above Top Secret? They would. They did. They can probably prove Obama knew about the server. But the evidence that the Russians arranged the Wikileaks release seems quite flimsy. It's always that Dem oppo guy or else it's somebody who believed the Dem oppo guy. There are people in the world who aren't either Dem or Republican - some aren't even Americans. They have these other agendas. Sorting out the truth would be difficult. But when I see the people in charge of sorting out this whole complex story are also people or friends of people advancing the foolish Trump-Russia lie then I see that I'm not going to know the truth in the next few years. The elite are embarrassed by whatever the truth is. OK. I wish Mueller would look at the history of what happens to honorable people who involve themselves with the Clintons from Vince Foster through Loretta Lynch to James Comey. But he won't. OK. In two years we'll all see that telling the truth or closing the investigation today would have been better for Mueller and the FBI than whatever torturous maneuver the Clintons have talked him into - for the good of the country. But Mueller thinks he's running the show for our good. Like Obama, like Comey on this same issue Mueller is ruining himself by becoming involved with protecting the Clintons. He isn't going to listen to plain people out in flyover who, by the millions, see what is happening. he thinks they don't see. He isn't going to listen to the President. But two years from now Trump's tweets will just seem like common sense and Mueller's investigation like the voyage of the Pequod. I personally think Hillary has gone Ahab because she hasn't been able to bring down Trump or ensnare him. So she's dragging the whole Dem Party and the FBI and the establishment off on this single-minded crazed pursuit. Chuck and Inga are very wisely jumping ship and trying to discuss policy issues. Call them Ishmael - at least I hope so.; ২৬/৬/১৭, ৯:৫৫ PM
Qwinn বলেছেন...: I'm coming to believe that Inga and Ritmo are performing a valuable service for us.

They're proving, beyond any reasonable doubt, that the Left has become immune to logic, facts, or reason. There literally is no hope. It is utterly plain that there is no bottom limit to what they're willing to countenance for their side to reclaim power.

This is important for us to remember. Such knowledge will be necessary when the time comes that we are forced to defend ourselves. Pity would stay our hands much more readily if there was any hope they'd regain their rationality. I think we're well past that point now, I'm afraid. They define themselves utterly by nothing more than their political positions. Their virtue signaling has entirely replaced what in most people is self-worth. And I really do believe they'd rather die than admit to themselves that they've been the true villains all along.; ২৬/৬/১৭, ১০:১৭ PM
Char Char Binks, Esq. বলেছেন...: Chuck better hope he's immunized from prosecution.; ২৬/৬/১৭, ১০:৩১ PM
Ken B বলেছেন...: The head of CNN, which just had to admit yet another bogus Russia story, said their research shows "those who rely on CNN" trust it more than ever. I bet this is true. A diminished echo chamber of those seeking to stoke their confirmation bias, deepening their trust with every Trump attack. But the rest of us trust it less.; ২৬/৬/১৭, ১০:৪০ PM
Night Owl বলেছেন...: "Pretty amazing that Trump blames Obama for not doing anything about something Trump denied even happened, the Russia hacking"

It really is amazing. Trump has the left chasing their tails. And the rest of us are getting a big kick out of seeing them spun around and around and around...; ২৬/৬/১৭, ১০:৪৩ PM
Leigh বলেছেন...: The DNC's hacked servers were one of Obama's first clues. The hacks were the springboard for this entire Russia! Russia! Russia! meme. So what would any intelligent president do? Why, order a full investigation, as Obama did!

http://launch.newsinc.com/share.html?trackingGroup=91568&siteSection=91568_vmpp&videoId=31737695

But when the DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schulz obstructed Obama's investigation and refused to turn over the hacked servers -- servers that proved the DNC was corrupt and railroaded Hillary's viable primary opponent, Bernie -- what would any intelligent president with integrity do?

President Obama did NOTHING. Why?

@Swede seems quite right. The only logical explanation for Obama's inertia is the content on those servers -- the DNC servers and Hillary Clinton's servers -- included things Obama didn't want the FBI or Dep't of Homeland Security to see. So Obama downplayed and even mocked the notion of Russian interference -- this interference Democrats are now calling, per WaPo, an existential threat to our Democracy and way of life. Instead, Obama reassured everyone there was "nothing to see here. Move along, little dogies, move along."

Remember this Obama gem, before Hillary's trouncing? https://youtu.be/cYGw_toqnko

Trump is quite right. Obama didn't "choke." That's utter hogwash. He was complicit in covering up this grave threat to our Democracy and chose mislead the American people, all in an effort to help his presumptive successor, if -- IF -- this Russian meddling theory is even to be believed.; ২৬/৬/১৭, ১০:৫০ PM
Seeing Red বলেছেন...: ...The FBI launched a criminal probe against former Trump National Security Adviser Michael Flynn two years after the retired Army general roiled the bureau’s leadership by intervening on behalf of a decorated counterterrorism agent who accused now-Deputy FBI Director Andrew McCabe and other top officials of sexual discrimination, according to documents and interviews....

Via Insty, part of an article.

It's all falling down around you lefties.

Even Bloomberg View isn't all Trump anymore. ITA with whoever commented the fever has or is breaking.; ২৬/৬/১৭, ১০:৫৭ PM
WarrenPeese বলেছেন...: Mark this day. Trump wrote four tweets in a row that were accurate.; ২৬/৬/১৭, ১১:৫১ PM
Achilles বলেছেন...: readering said...
At some point for a critical mass of voters the light switch will go off that this guy is a charlatan. What will happen at that point I'm not sure. But it will be interesting to see (as the Chinese would put it).

Please keep believing that. Do not change a thing. And please keep attacking Trump and please keep dangling on his hook. Every time he tweets the left loses another election somewhere.

The first midterm after a new president is elected has historically been a bad year for the president's party. 2010 was a wave election that destroyed democrat control of DC. Anyone want to place bets on 2018 being a good year for dems? It is to laugh.

It is going to be a wipe out and go completely against historical trends. Democrats are not going to have control of the senate for a generation. Outside of some corrupt blue states like New York, California, Massachusetts and a few others Democrats will be completely removed from power nationally.

And watch Illinois. After it goes bankrupt will they be able to import enough illegal voters to keep machine democrats in power? When the Illiois voter rolls get cleaned out look for Illinois to act and vote more like every other state around it. Same with Michigan. Every demographic trend in those states is going R and as soon as the corrupt democrat machine loses control of the voter rolls their power in those states will crumble.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ১২:২০ AM
Yancey Ward বলেছেন...: The purpose of Trump's tweets isn't to accuse Obama and Clinton with colluding with the Russians- it is to point out that the evidence presented to date can be interpreted that way just as easily as any other way.

WaPo's story the other day, I think, is most easily interpreted as an attempt to fix a problem that has plagued the Russian Collusion narrative almost from day 1- that it makes Obama and his minions look like complete fucking morons, and it also makes the DNC and Hillary!' campaign looking like complete fucking morons. So someone orders up a story that makes it look like Obama was in a death struggle to preserve the sanctity of the American electoral process, all the while he was pooh-poohing notions that the process might not be fair and that a certain participant should accept his coming defeat.

However, the story offered zero evidence for this behind the scenes struggle, and I think the entire story is a fabrication to make it look like no one pulled the wool over on Obama- that he fought the good battle strenuously and with great courage, but was defeated by enemies so evil as to not be believed. However, this can never be squared with Obama's own fucking words out of his mouth, and even worse, if you are going to play this new narrative card, Trump is going to remind you that if true, it just goes to show how incompetent and/or corrupt Obama and his minions were. Trump isn't going to let you have your cake and eat it too, and that must taste like shit to the Inga's of the world as you see her spinning like a neutron star in this thread.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ১২:৫৯ AM
Yancey Ward বলেছেন...: This right here is a story to keep an eye on- it does quote at least one real person by name, and seems to have details of actual depositions with what would be highly damaging testimony if it can be confirmed securely- the sort of thing that might be possible at an oversight hearing.

Did the FBI retaliate against Flynn for supporting a sexual discrimination complaint against Bruce McCabe and others?; ২৭/৬/১৭, ১:০৪ AM
Achilles বলেছেন...: And another corrupt cog in the democrat machine is revealed.

"The FBI sought to block Flynn’s support for the agent, asking a federal administrative law judge in May 2014 to keep Flynn and others from becoming a witness in her Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC) case, memos obtained by Circa show. Two years later, the FBI opened its inquiry of Flynn."

Who was the main target in the EEOC complaint?

"The EEOC case, which is still pending, was serious enough to require McCabe to submit to a sworn statement to investigators, the documents show.

The deputy director’s testimony provided some of the strongest evidence in the case of possible retaliation, because he admitted the FBI opened an internal investigation into Gritz’s personal conduct after learning the agent “had filed or intended to file” a sex discrimination complaint against her supervisors."

That McCabe? The democrat goon? Why yes the same:

"McCabe eventually became the bureau’s No. 2 executive and emerged as a central player in the FBI’s Russia election tampering investigation, putting him in a position to impact the criminal inquiry against Flynn.

Three FBI employees told Circa they personally witnessed McCabe make disparaging remarks about Flynn before and during the time the retired Army general emerged as a figure in the Russia case."

In the article it is clear that SSA Gritz was popular in the Military CI community she worked with. After McCabe found out she was gong to file an EEO complaint McCabe ordered an OPR probe on her. Flynn and other Generals/Admirals wrote letters of support and testimony for Gritz. McCabe and the FBI tried to block that testimony and when McCabe saw a chance to go after Flynn he did.

The people carrying out and supporting this investigation are just Stalinist pieces of shit.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ১:১২ AM
Unknown বলেছেন...: Oh FFS.

Trump was informed about the Russian hacking through his PDB in August 2016.

Mitch McConnell was informed too who threatened to veto any action by Obama that would affect the election.

Believe whatever you want Trumpski's but your man Trump is going down for Obstruction of Justice, Money Laundering and Treason.

Watch this space.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ১:৪০ AM
Unknown বলেছেন...: TRUMPSKI NEWS NETWORK: "Jared Kushner has hired Abbe Lowell, one of the country's leading criminal defense lawyers, to represent him in the special counsel's probe of potential Russian collusion with the Trump campaign and his financial dealings, as well as in separate congressional inquiries." (Politico)

A CRIMINAL defense lawyer. Uhmm. Now, why would Jared Kushner need a CRIMINAL defense lawyer. Just makes you wanna scratch your head.

Oh yeah. Trump & Family & Associates have committed crimes.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ২:১৪ AM
Bruce Hayden বলেছেন...: The left seems to think that Trump is a moron, but I think this shows just the opposite -Trump rephrasing the Russia debate, to be about Saint Obama, and not really him, through four short tweets. The significance here is that the debate is almost invariably framed by the Dems and their MSM arm. As a result, Republicans very often find themselves playing defense, even when they shouldn't be. Henceforth, Trump and the Republicans can respond to Russian interference "evidence" and claims by asking whether Obama was right that it was a non-issue, or was he grossly incompetent in ignoring it. Which makes the story about St Obama, not Trump.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৩:৩৪ AM
brylun বলেছেন...: CAUGHT ON TAPE: “CNN Producer Says Russia Narrative “bullsh*t”. If secretly made tapes of Trump’s “grab them by the p*ssy” gaffe are fair game, is why this not? Hint: Ratings: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE

Project Veritas from Instapundit.

Zucker should resign!; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৫:৫৫ AM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil বলেছেন...: Project Veritas captures CNN producer on tape saying the Russian investigation is bullshit and all about the ratings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdP8TiKY8dE

CNN throws anti-Trump chum at gullible fools like Inga.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৬:০১ AM
exhelodrvr1 বলেছেন...: You could make a reasonable argument in favor of Obama's decision to keep the Russian issues relatively quiet before the election. But there is no good argument for him not speaking out forcefully after the election as soon as it was apparent that the Democrats were trying to invalidate the results.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৬:০৭ AM
Michael K বলেছেন...: "Watch this space."

The empty space that is your brain, you mean ?; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৬:১৭ AM
Birkel বলেছেন...: I am not yet tired of all the winning.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৬:২০ AM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil বলেছেন...: Hey, Dumski, even CNN producers admit the Russia stories are bullshit.

You've been had. What a credulous dolt you are. There is no reason to take anything you write seriously, bozo.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৬:২১ AM
Kevin বলেছেন...: Obama did what any normal intelligent President would've done.

Good God, Inga. Has it come to this? We're reduced to arguing that Obama did what someone of normal aptitude might have done?

What happened to Obama the Great? Obama the lightworker? Obama of the perfect pants crease? Obama must have done what he did because he could see things no other human could perceive. He worked out all the available options. And then, unlike a person of normal intelligence, he didn't pick the readily apparent course.

No, he applied his special nuance filter to drop down the list a bit and select something a bit more - clever. A bit more understated. Something which only a genius like he could truly appreciate.

Obama's response, like his red lines, his allowing the Russians to annex the Crimea, his non-reponse response to North Korea's detonating nukes and launching missiles at Japan, was - as only he could truly see - perfect.

And if the world can't understand that by now, if it can't see that his decisions are not to be fully understood because they lack Obama's singular ability to understand them, then he certainly isn't going to waste his supreme intellect explaining them.

Right now he has better things to do. He's on the seventh fairway, there is a slight cross-breeze, the sun is at a 36.2 degree angle to the horizon, a mother sparrow is teaching her third-oldest child to fly, and he needs all his intellect to strike the ball just so.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৬:৩৮ AM
Tommy Duncan বলেছেন...: Leigh said:

@Swede seems quite right. The only logical explanation for Obama's inertia is the content on those servers -- the DNC servers and Hillary Clinton's servers -- included things Obama didn't want the FBI or Dep't of Homeland Security to see. So Obama downplayed and even mocked the notion of Russian interference -- this interference Democrats are now calling, per WaPo, an existential threat to our Democracy and way of life. Instead, Obama reassured everyone there was "nothing to see here. Move along, little dogies, move along."

It appears the Democrats made a number of decisions calculated on the premise that Hillary's victory was inevitable. When that premise failed they made a second set of calculated decisions (Russia, Russia, Russia) based on the premise that they owned the deep state and the media. The second premise was made moot by Trump's unconventional political behavior.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৬:৫৩ AM
exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil বলেছেন...: Kevin, while nobody knows for sure (unlike Inga I do not have access to insider information), I suspect Obama might not be as indifferent to current events as your post suggests. It must be upsetting to him that his successor is working to undo his legacy.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৭:০৫ AM
iowan2 বলেছেন...: If I had the same as unlimited cash available, I would hire the best criminal lawyer I could find especially if I was going to be interviewed by a corrupt govt agent that had unlimited subpoena power to access my entire known universe.

I guess the better question is, Who would not hire legal counsel, that they could afford? An idiot? (See Martha Stewart, Scotter Libby). (and that doesn't count, Speaker of the house,Tom Delay, Senator,Kay Bailey Hutchinson, Senator Stevens, Governor Perry, Governor Palin, and several other Republicans gone after by corrupt,Democrat operatives of prosecutorial power, aided by a corrupt judiciary, (see the unanimous SCOTUS decision tossing the corrupt lower court judges illegal stays of Presidential actions)) Those actions brought by corrupt political hacks with law degrees, exercising their official power, for raw political reasons); ২৭/৬/১৭, ৭:২৩ AM
James K বলেছেন...: Now, why would Jared Kushner need a CRIMINAL defense lawyer.

So your view would be that only the guilty need lawyers?; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৮:৪১ AM
Seeing Red বলেছেন...: I don't think Pence will be becoming president in the next few weeks.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ১০:৪১ AM
Sammy Finkelman বলেছেন...: Trump tweet:

Hillary Clinton colluded with the Democratic Party in order to beat Crazy Bernie Sanders. Is she allowed to so collude? Unfair to Bernie!

Under federal law, she is allowed to collude. Under Democratic Party rules, no.

Although the people at the Democratic National Committee are the ones breaking the rules, not the candidate for the most part (The candidate might incidently be breaking some rule or rules or promise.); ২৭/৬/১৭, ১১:৫৮ AM
Sammy Finkelman বলেছেন...: wildswan said...6/26/17, 9:55 PM

I mean why do we think that the Russians would hack away at our election process and they wouldn't hack into a server that exposed the thinking and the emails of the Secretary of State? Including emails with material at levels above Top Secret?

I don't know what other people think but the reason I think they didn't do it, is becasuse they coudn't do it. And the FBI was talking nonsense about it being likely to be hacked. There was no email account in the history of email that was as secure as that of Hillary Clinton at clintonemail.com

It was not only secure agsinst hackers, which it as, because there was no way to get the password or get to the server, but it was secure against subpoeas, whether from prosecutors or from Congress; Inspector Generals *; any presidential commission that might be appointed in th e future; and Freedom of Information Act requests.

* in fact the State Department had no Inspector general all the time she was secretary of statee, which was the longest any cabinet department had gone without an Inspector general since they started having Inspector generals, in the second half of the Carter Administration.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ১২:০৭ PM
Sammy Finkelman বলেছেন...: But, if 10 democrat senators got together as a voting bloc, they could influence this legislation bigly.

Meanwhile what the national Democrats are doing is trying to get the independent Democrats in the New York State Senate to stop doing that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Democratic_Conference

http://observer.com/2017/05/keith-ellison-dnc-idc-simcha-felder-independent-democratic-conference-state-senate-brian-benjamin/

The Democratic National Committee waded into the bitter fray between clashing factions of the party in the State Senate—demanding that nine members currently cooperating with the Republicans form a majority with the larger 23-seat caucus.

Minnesota Congressman Keith Ellison, the party’s deputy chairman, joined with New York’s two vice-chairs—Bronx Assemblyman Michael Blake and Queens Congresswoman Grace Meng—in calling on Brooklyn State Senator Simcha Felder and the eight members of the Independent Democratic Conference to abandon their alliance with the Republicans. They noted that, with the election of Brian Benjamin in Harlem’s State Senate district last night, the Democrats enjoy a one-seat numerical advantage in the 63-member body.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/nys-assembly-dems-start-target-senate-idc-article-1.3037203

Currently there are three factions--22 mainline Dems, eight IDC members, and Sen. Simcha Felder, a Brooklyn Democrat who actually caucuses with the Republicans and gives them the 32nd vote needed for the majority with or without the IDC.

The Republicans created a special district for Simcha Felder during redistricting after the 2010 Census.; ২৭/৬/১৭, ১২:১৮ PM
OGWiseman বলেছেন...: This nonsense is exactly as dumb as the Democrats who are going "we've heard all we need to hear, start impeachment and ready the dungeon!"

There are investigative processes in motion. Those will come to fruition when they do, not at the behest of the 24-hour news cycle. Then we will have a best guess about what happened. Anyone, on either side, trying to be dispositive before those reports are released is kidding themselves. Even with the reports, I expect quite a bit of ambiguity and certainly disagreement.

All Trump tweeting can or will do is get him in trouble, if/when he reveals things he's previously denied. Just like the travel ban tweets sank its chances in court. Does he really think he's going to bring an end to this matter with a tweet? Come on...; ২৭/৬/১৭, ৪:১৯ PM
Rusty বলেছেন...: Unknown
Sorry buddy, but those, even if proved , which is doubtful, are not impeachable offenses.
read up on your constitution.
Stick with your Russia meme because treason is an impeachable offense. Which, I suspect is why it's being pushed so hard.; ২৯/৬/১৭, ৫:১৬ AM