Althouse: "Did Crooked Hillary help disgusting (check out sex tape and past) Alicia M become a U.S. citizen so she could use her in the debate?"

September 30, 2016

"Did Crooked Hillary help disgusting (check out sex tape and past) Alicia M become a U.S. citizen so she could use her in the debate?"

"Using Alicia M in the debate as a paragon of virtue just shows that Crooked Hillary suffers from BAD JUDGEMENT! Hillary was set up by a con."

"Wow, Crooked Hillary was duped and used by my worst Miss U. Hillary floated her as an 'angel' without checking her past, which is terrible!"

Things tweeted by Trump first thing in the morning. Via the L.A. Times: "Trump continues attacks on former Miss Universe with middle-of-the-night tweets." Is 5 a.m. for Trump the middle of the night? As someone who often blogs at 5 a.m., I can tell you that's not the middle of the night. That's morning for a person who gets up early, and I'm perfectly sharp and lucid, much more so than at 9 or 10 at night. I don't know about Trump. Some people think he's never right in the head.

70 comments:

rhhardin said...: Trump is against anal sex. That loses him the Wonkette vote.; 9/30/16, 9:54 AM
Carol said...: I dunno, he needs to get off this topic. It goes too deep, it's Inside Baseball etc. Hillary drew blood and only his fanboys and girls are going to pay attention to Machado's background at this point.; 9/30/16, 9:54 AM
Matt Sablan said...: If Trump will spend his entire presidency not doing anything but fighting losing PR battles... I'd be OK with that.; 9/30/16, 9:56 AM
John henry said...: What about Machado's US citizenship? Granted May 2016, just in time for campaign season.

Did Team Hilary help her with that? Was it granted through normal process or some expedited process like a special bill by a Team Hilary Senator?

Was there a quid pro quo? Was she granted citizenship in exchange for speaking out against Trump?

How long has she lived in the US? Has she been a resident of the US for the time normally required for citizenship?

She seems, on Anderson Cooper, to still consider her country to be Venezuelan.

John Henry; 9/30/16, 9:59 AM
zipity said...: You just have to know that Hillary used this woman knowing full well her checkered past.

She is certain that the LameStream Media© lapdogs will furiously bury the less complementary aspects of the former Miss Universe's character or lack thereof.

They're not journalists, their Democratic Operatives with bylines.; 9/30/16, 10:02 AM
Once written, twice... said...: Trump is a joke and Ann is proving herself again to be a joke by supporting him. But Ann loves her reality TV programming.; 9/30/16, 10:04 AM
Amexpat said...: The fact that Trump is choosing to use his time on this reflects poorly on his judgement. If HRC can wrong foot him with such an obvious trap, imagine how the Russians and others will play him. (Not that I think that HRC or Gary "Brain Freeze" Johnson would be much better); 9/30/16, 10:05 AM
cubanbob said...: Machado is 40, attractive, and a porn star. Hillary better think this through and make sure Bill is kept far, far away from her. Then again Bill has been many times to Pedophile Island with his good buddy the billionaire pervert so perhaps his taste in bimbos has changed.; 9/30/16, 10:07 AM
Lyle Smith said...: Can't trust the Democrats to properly vet immigrants. Obama can't even fathom how it would help to talk about Islam and terrorism.; 9/30/16, 10:08 AM
cubanbob said...: Once written, twice... said...
Trump is a joke and Ann is proving herself again to be a joke by supporting him. But Ann loves her reality TV programming."

Trump may be a joke but a party that nominated a fascist, grifter, criminal and traitor is a tragedy.; 9/30/16, 10:09 AM
eric said...: This is interesting. Putting the dumb tweets by Trump aside, I wonder what's going on with this woman.

Obviously this was a set up by the Clinton camp, but how far back does it go? We know that two different media organizations were already doing background on her before the debate, so, theyd been given a heads up by the Clinton camp. What other coordination was there?

While I find this fascinating and interesting, I don't think this is something the media will be interested in. Too much sex and international intrigue. Not something the media cares about, right?

I've a feeling this is how the clinton camp prepares for debates. Set up another Alicia Machado for debate two. Needle Trump with it. You've got your headlines for the rest of the week.

I also expect their are coordinating with pollsters in order to create the perfect image storm.

The Trump camp better get in gear and realize how skillfully they are being played here.; 9/30/16, 10:11 AM
John henry said...: Seems like this was a ticking time bomb set up for a specific purpose. I went looking for info about how Machado got her citizenship and found nothing. What I did find was a slew of articles about how she became a US citizen just so she could vote against Donald Trump. The Ms Piggy etc references appear in all the articles.

One article, from August, said that she was being used in get out the vote/become a citizen efforts in the latin community.

Esquire kind of nails the thinking. I still want to know how she got her citizenship.

Alicia Machado, Former Miss Universe, Gains Citizenship To Vote Against Trump

The best reason to become a citizen, honestly.

Headline at Esquire, 8/19/16
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a47994/miss-universe-trump/

8/19/16
http://www.latintimes.com/miss-piggy-can-vote-ex-miss-universe-alicia-machado-became-us-citizen-vote-against-395412

8/24/16
http://www.salon.com/2016/08/24/former-miss-universe-who-claims-trump-called-her-miss-piggy-gains-u-s-citizenships-to-vote-against-him/

8/19/16

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/contestant-called-piggy-donald-trump-citizenship-article-1.2758428; 9/30/16, 10:13 AM
Etienne said...: Snopes says there's no evidence of a sex tape.

Actually her boyfriend at the time dumped her after he said he saw the tape. He said it was a video taken at night with the night vision mode.

I believe the boyfriend. Snopes is looking for video evidence and will never find it. They won't find Jimmy Hoffa's body either, but trust me, he's f'n dead.

Anyway, I think she's fat in a pretty way. I wouldn't mind if she slithered all over me with Crisco and licked the peanut butter off of my nipples.

But I'm still not voting for a Clinton. Bunch of hicks from Arkansas...; 9/30/16, 10:14 AM
Bob Boyd said...: Bringing Machado on board was a win/win for Hillary.
Not only can she be used to attack Trump, when you're Hillary Clinton it's always good to have somebody on the payroll who's willing to take a shot at a judge.; 9/30/16, 10:16 AM
machine said...: I will not vote for a nominee that cannot spell judgment like an American...

and Mr. Palin was set up by a pro.; 9/30/16, 10:16 AM
Original Mike said...: If Trump had been fast enough on his feet during the debate to have replied "Given your past of savaging the women who had affairs with your husband, you're no one to talk", that would have worked. But now he needs to shut up on this topic. But Trump can't shut up to save his soul (or his Presidency).; 9/30/16, 10:17 AM
Big Mike said...: @coupe, you may need to rethink your derogatory putdown of the residents of Arkansas. The latest polls of Arkansas voters show Trump well over twenty points ahead. The state that knows the Clintons best hates them the most.; 9/30/16, 10:19 AM
Big Mike said...: Interesting how the discussion has turned from Machado, the fat felon, to what time in the morning Trump tweets.; 9/30/16, 10:20 AM
damikesc said...: I'd wonder how somebody accused of assisting with a murder and threatening the life of a judge would qualify for citizenship here.

Snopes says there's no evidence of a sex tape.

If it's that Big Brother-like show video --- without video evidence of penetration, it couldn't look more like sex and she couldn't have talked as if it was more like sex if anybody tried. I've seen the video. I know what thrusting-during-fucking looks like. It's not all that hard to find. He dumped her, if memory serves, over that show.; 9/30/16, 10:21 AM
Amy said...: Does ANYBODY vet his tweets? Does he just act completely solo based on his own instincts? Regardless of the content of the tweets, I consider this reckless behavior at this point in a campaign.

Hillary is abhorrent. But he is deeply concerning.
I still can't believe this is where we are.; 9/30/16, 10:22 AM
Nonapod said...: Someone close to Trump needs to create and install a fake Twitter app on Trump's phone that would look just like the real thing but not actually post anything online. You could even have it generate fake responses for him. That way he'd still believe he was Tweeting all his sick burns, withering retorts, and witty musings. Of course everyone on his campaign staff would have to pretend like he was still Tweeting I guess. Not sure how long that ruse would last.; 9/30/16, 10:25 AM
john said...: There seems to be no subject unworthy of or beneath the Donald's instant attention. Couple other examples of his inability to focus or see the big picture:

The day after Clinton's nomination, Trump tweets off on Liz Warren.

On his non-support (or maybe his support, who can tell?) of the Iraq war, he spends 3 of his 2 allotted debate minutes on Sean Hannity and then tosses in Howard Stern (for extra gravitas?).; 9/30/16, 10:26 AM
Beaumont said...: Many voters, blinded by their hatred at the Establishment, the Clintons, Liberalism, and the Democrats want to protest and show their disgust by voting for an "Outsider". The characteristics of this "Outsider" are irrelevant to some just as long as he can stick it to Washington. Of course, the intensity of the anger incapacitates the frontal lobes, so decisions are based solely on emotion. Reminds me of the following tale about how strong emotion (in this case fear) can ultimately produce some unwelcomed results.

The Appointment in Samarra"
(as retold by W. Somerset Maugham [1933])
The speaker is Death

There was a merchant in Bagdad who sent his servant to market to buy provisions and in a little while the servant came back, white and trembling, and said, Master, just now when I was in the marketplace I was jostled by a woman in the crowd and when I turned I saw it was Death that jostled me. She looked at me and made a threatening gesture, now, lend me your horse, and I will ride away from this city and avoid my fate. I will go to Samarra and there Death will not find me. The merchant lent him his horse, and the servant mounted it, and he dug his spurs in its flanks and as fast as the horse could gallop he went. Then the merchant went down to the marketplace and he saw me standing in the crowd and he came to me and said, Why did you make a threating getsture to my servant when you saw him this morning? That was not a threatening gesture, I said, it was only a start of surprise. I was astonished to see him in Bagdad, for I had an appointment with him tonight in Samarra.; 9/30/16, 10:27 AM
Matt Sablan said...: "Not sure how long that ruse would last."

-- I imagine he'd hit send, then immediately tap one of his staff and say, "Check out my new tweet," and wait for them to pull it up on their phone. All while sitting there waiting for them to tell him how great it is.; 9/30/16, 10:27 AM
Rob said...: It's a pity we can't put Clinton and Trump in one of those machines in "The Fly" so we could arrive at a candidate with Hillary's wonkiness and steely resolve and Trump's policy choices. Of course, we could end up with a braying corrupt orange lazy dope. So maybe not such a good idea after all.; 9/30/16, 10:29 AM
John henry said...: Snopes says there's no evidence of a sex tape.

Snopes also characterizes Crooked Hilary's incident on 9/11, where they "threw her into the van like a piece of raw meat" according to New York's Finest as simply her being a bit "unsteady".

Yeah, the sex tape are there for all to see. But who you gonna believe, Snopes or your lying eyes?

JOhn HEnry; 9/30/16, 10:32 AM
Drago said...: Once written, twice: "Trump is a joke and Ann is proving herself again to be a joke by supporting him. But Ann loves her reality TV programming."

Shouldn't you be spending your time and money gathering supplies for the Venezuelan victims of leftist economic theories?

Maybe the former Miss U simply wants access to some basic stuff the leftists always destroy: food, clean water, medicines, energy, etc. That sort of stuff.; 9/30/16, 10:47 AM
eric said...: This is the best read of the day. And accurate.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/29/alicia-machado-is-2016s-sandra-fluke-a-democratic-public-relations-scam/

Yes, she is a Democrat and media scam.; 9/30/16, 10:48 AM
Darrell said...: Alicia Machado, Papa Chavez and José Manuel Zelaya. Hillary Clinton treasures all her Latino friends.; 9/30/16, 10:48 AM
FullMoon said...: Coupe said... [hush][hide comment]

Snopes says there's no evidence of a sex tape.

Actually her boyfriend at the time dumped her after he said he saw the tape. He said it was a video taken at night with the night vision mode.

There are two tapes. One, the "Big Brother" tape, is real. The other, pure porno, is claimed by Snopes to be a porn actress who looks like Machado. Time will tell.; 9/30/16, 10:50 AM
Matt Sablan said...: Wait -- wait -- wait.

Are we really at the point where we are debating: "Which sex tape was Donald Trump talking about?"; 9/30/16, 10:53 AM
John said...: Oh God. We're back to bimbo eruptions!

"We need to change minds and respect for all the womans of this country. That's it!"

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/28/when-megyn-kelly-asked-miss-universe-this-question-about-donald-trump-she-had-no-answer/

“You know, I have my past, of course. Everybody has a past, and I’m not a saint girl, but that is not the point now.”
“That moment in Venezuela was wrong, was another speculation about my life because I’m a really famous person in my country because I’m an actress there and in Mexico, too,” she continued. “And he can use whatever he wants to use. The point is, that happened 20 years ago.”

http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/28/clinton-supporter-alicia-machado-on-accusations-she-abetted-murder-that-happened-20-years-ago-video/; 9/30/16, 11:03 AM
Matt Sablan said...: "The point is, that happened 20 years ago.”

-- I want Trump to use that defense about anything. Not because I think it is a great defense, but because it'll amuse me, and clearly, that's the only value left in this election.; 9/30/16, 11:06 AM
Chuck said...: Althouse you are making some brilliant posts, criticizing the NYT.

But it is NOT a case of one Trump tweet at 5 am. It is a history of them, at 2 am, 2:14 am, 2:30 am, 3:00 am, 3:30 am. Etc., etc.

http://www.theatlantic.com/notes/2016/09/trump-time-capsule-123-tweets-at-3-am/502394/

I'd like you and I agree upon a time, that counts as "the middle of the night." My suggestion is that 3am is as good a time as any, to qualify as "middle of the night."; 9/30/16, 11:11 AM
Matt Sablan said...: 12 is the middle of the night (midnight), so I feel like 11-1 is safely "middle of the night," with 2-4 being "early morning," and 8-10 being evening/late evening.; 9/30/16, 11:15 AM
Matt Sablan said...: Though, honestly, I'm still dumbfounded that "which sex tape do we mean?" is a legitimate question.; 9/30/16, 11:15 AM
David said...: He had tweets at 10pm, 3am, and 5am. When does he sleep?; 9/30/16, 11:20 AM
Matt Sablan said...: "When does he sleep?"

-- Whenever it is, he gets the best sleep. Just the best.; 9/30/16, 11:21 AM
Sprezzatura said...: Yesterday, on his radio show, Hannity went into a lot of backtracking and uncertainty about his previously stating that the gal was into making porn.

So, I assumed that this may not be a very well supported accusation.

But then, starting at 3:20 in the morning, DJT fired up the Twitter machine...and now I guess Hannity will need to regret his backtracking.; 9/30/16, 11:22 AM
David said...: 12 is the middle of the night (midnight), so I feel like 11-1 is safely "middle of the night," with 2-4 being "early morning," and 8-10 being evening/late evening.

This is wrong. People who work 9-5 often sleep from 11-7. Midnight is a late bedtime, not the middle of the night.; 9/30/16, 11:27 AM
Sprezzatura said...: Does DJT have a financial piece of Twitter?

There's been recent buzz about potential buyers. Maybe DJT is building Twitter hype to hype the price.

Probably grasping at straws w/ the Twitter-hype angle, but logical explanations for DJT's idiosyncrasies are not obvious. Of course there's the stuff about him not wanting to win because he's an HRC placed Trojan horse. And, there's the POV that he's got some sort of way of being that is odd to most folks, but typical for NY.

I dunno.; 9/30/16, 11:33 AM
damikesc said...: "The point is, that happened 20 years ago.”

-- I want Trump to use that defense about anything. Not because I think it is a great defense, but because it'll amuse me, and clearly, that's the only value left in this election.

I think it's hilarious that a woman who is whining about "mean comments" 20 years ago is annoyed about mentioning criminal action from 20 years ago.; 9/30/16, 11:35 AM
William said...: My first thought was that this was a self inflicted bimbo eruption on Hillary's part. Now I'm not so sure. It's very hard for a man to criticize a beauty contestant without sounding like a sexist. So advantage Hillary. Beyond that who wants to read or discuss currency manipulations, lower tariffs, trade deals, and such. On the other hand, who doesn't want to discuss and do further research on the subject of beauty contestants and their sex tapes. Trump is playing on a ball field where Hillary has a natural advantage.; 9/30/16, 11:38 AM
Sara D said...: Hillary Clinton has been training her for months,she has been working for the campaign since June. I think the Clinton Camp came up with "Ms.Piggy and " Miss Housekeeping". When Megyn Kelly asked Ms. Machado about it, she didn't answer.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/09/30/fact-check-five-things-to-know-alicia-machado/; 9/30/16, 11:40 AM
n.n said...: The female chauvinists destroyed Palin, a woman who had it all, and could have been president, while promoting another whose life is the antithesis of classical feminist ambitions.; 9/30/16, 11:48 AM
Chuck said...: Blogger Matthew Sablan said...
12 is the middle of the night (midnight), so I feel like 11-1 is safely "middle of the night,"

lmfao. So how many Tweets has Trump put out between 11p to 1a, which you have told us is "the middle of the night."

11pm ain't the middle of my night. I'm just putting my pj's on.; 9/30/16, 11:55 AM
Matt Sablan said...: Who knows? I don't follow Trump's Twitter. I'm just picking at semantics. If someone says noon, they mean 12, not 3. If someone says midnight, it seems pretty clear what should be meant.; 9/30/16, 11:57 AM
Sigivald said...: ... what, why am I supposed to care about that/her/it?

(Even if there is - debatable - a "sex tape", why should I think that is remotely relevant or important at third-hand to the alleged relevance to the campaign?

Jesus, is it 1950 and we all have to pretend Sex Is Icky?); 9/30/16, 12:04 PM
GWash said...: oh great another rumor for everyone to accept as true.. as one of the fearless bloggers here once chided me for 'it's most likely true'... does that mean it's acceptable to insult a playboy bunny? what's hef's take on all of this?... if trump gets elected will hannity get a cabinet post or ambassadorship?...; 9/30/16, 12:14 PM
Chuck said...: Matthew Sablan said...
Who knows? I don't follow Trump's Twitter. I'm just picking at semantics. If someone says noon, they mean 12, not 3. If someone says midnight, it seems pretty clear what should be meant.

Okay but so what, for you, is the "middle of the night"? When is it, that you'd think, most normal people would be asleep? Maybe there is no such thing for you. Don't go around being sleep-normative.

Let's both agree; when Trump posts his Tweets is something of massive, yuuuuge unimportance. It has no substantive importance.

But there is a whole class of low-information voters (Rush's term) who will get today's newscycle's lead story. The story is that Trump is Tweeting something or other about sex tapes at 3am. I don't think much of those voters. But Trump seems to be banking on them.; 9/30/16, 12:22 PM
Matt Sablan said...: Middle of the night doesn't have to do with when people are sleeping, it has to do with time keeping.; 9/30/16, 12:26 PM
Chuck said...: Let me explain something to you, Matthew; the whole point of the indeterminate phrase "middle of the night" is to raise the question, Why is this guy Tweeting about sex tapes, instead of getting himself some sleep?

I gather you've made up your mind about Mr. Trump's fitness for office. I can also assure you that millions of people will get their 5 or 6 seconds' worth of this story and think Trump is a freak weirdo.; 9/30/16, 12:33 PM
Matt Sablan said...: What do you gather?; 9/30/16, 12:36 PM
Chuck said...: Have a nice November, Matthew.; 9/30/16, 12:39 PM
Matt Sablan said...: Let's get through October first.; 9/30/16, 12:43 PM
Known Unknown said...: I consider this reckless behavior at this point in a campaign.

What some consider reckless, others consider fighting back against the media narrative. Something "good" Republicans fail to do.; 9/30/16, 12:45 PM
Captain Drano said...: What Eric @10:11 said.; 9/30/16, 1:07 PM
GRW3 said...: Trump should have a news conference and play the YouTube video of his public statement at the time. It was on Hannity yesterday. Basically, he's very supportive of her effort to loose weight. Then he should note he may have been too blunt in private but that is better than pretending to support them in public while working to destroy them in private.; 9/30/16, 1:15 PM
Martin said...: He should stop the tweets, already... or at least include links to articles or videos that support his points.

But the he needs to tone down the insult stuff. He has his base, they aren't going anywhere. He needs to broaden it, and angry tweets are not the answer.

By all means, push back against unfair attacks. Too many GOPs rolled over in the past, and those were strategic mistakes.

But at this point he has a serious "temperament" issue to overcome, and the manner of the pushback will make a difference. Calm, reasonable-sounding, and firm will win support from people who are sympathetic but view him as too "hot" (in McLuhan's terms); harsh insults that don't explain his case, will not.; 9/30/16, 1:22 PM
David said...: Enough already. Raise this again if you have some facts instead of speculation.; 9/30/16, 1:48 PM
Corky Boyd said...: That article from the NY Times will bring millions of dollars in Trump contributions. The Times meant the article to be disparaging of Republicans. It will have the opposite effect. That's why you and Drudge carried it.; 9/30/16, 1:53 PM
Anonymous said...: His first tweet in the tweet storm came at 3AM, not 5AM. The man is obsessed and has absolutely no self control.; 9/30/16, 4:38 PM
Bad Lieutenant said...: Glenn Reynolds releases blog posts on a timed basis. Perhaps Twitter has something similar.; 9/30/16, 5:09 PM
Sprezzatura said...: "Glenn Reynolds releases blog posts on a timed basis."

I wonder if he thinks about Asia.

Andrew Sullivan once mentioned that it was important to have stuff roll out such that Asian countries didn't see a totally dead website during their up hours.; 9/30/16, 5:22 PM
Ken B said...: Unknown posts knowingly about something unknown.; 9/30/16, 5:30 PM
rcocean said...: Trump is against globalization and open borders.

That makes him "not right in the head" to a lot of very powerful people.; 9/30/16, 5:32 PM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...: The liar hack progressive fascist corrupt press say 3 am - then that's the time., doogdarm it.; 10/1/16, 7:30 AM
bridgecross said...: I think folks misunderstand Trump's tweets. These are not rhetorical questions spiced with unfounded innuendo. He is genuinely curious to find out. Trump is asking for help filling in the really big gaps in this tangled story. It's up to us, all of us, to unwind it. Excelsior!!!!!; 10/1/16, 7:59 AM
Rusty said...: Hillary is abhorrent. But he is deeply concerning.
I still can't believe this is where we are.

The past eight years have been just fine for you? Trump is a direct result of; " If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." "You didn't build that." "we're going to reverse Obamacare." "teabagger". Gunrunner. The IRS scandal ,Benghazi, The Iran agreement.
This is where we are because 53% of the mouth breathing electorate thought it was a good idea to elect a nearly black man because-you gotta love this logic- "It's about time we had a black president." And I want a boat with THREE propellers.; 10/1/16, 8:20 AM
Unknown said...: anyone remember The Wedding of "Ross Perot's Daughter"?

http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/26/us/1992-campaign-overview-perot-says-he-quit-july-thwart-gop-dirty-tricks.html?pagewanted=all

Perhaps elaborate conspiracy theories are as common among billionaire as they are in 1960 Batman TV shows and Jean Claude Van Damme movies...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timecop; 10/7/16, 3:32 AM