Althouse: "Don’t think: 'How close can I get to the rape line?'..."

September 25, 2015

"Don’t think: 'How close can I get to the rape line?'..."

"... but instead: 'How sure can I be that everyone involved in this sexual encounter is completely into it?'"

49 comments:

Freeman Hunt said...: "Don’t think: 'How close can I get to the rape line?'..."

Who is thinking this apart from people who couldn't care less about whether or not the other person is "completely into it?"; 9/25/15, 7:08 PM
averagejoe said...: The rape line. That's the one before the rape-rape line, right?; 9/25/15, 7:19 PM
Michael said...: The "rape culture." I mean, really, what the fuck and who the fuck believes there is a "culture" of rape other than people who are going to make good and goddamn sure they get "raped" at some point in their lives. So as not to be left out of the culture. Or something. Because yes means yes and only yes means yes and the echo of yes had best tremble down the years.; 9/25/15, 7:24 PM
rcocean said...: Where's the end of this rape line? Sounds like Fun.; 9/25/15, 8:11 PM
Real American said...: Kate Harding is nowhere near the reality line or truth line.; 9/25/15, 8:11 PM
Real American said...: In Soviet Russia, line rapes you.; 9/25/15, 8:13 PM
Henry said...: Everyone involved? It's that darn old rule of product again.; 9/25/15, 8:14 PM
Real American said...: the Rape Line is how you know its a gang rape.; 9/25/15, 8:14 PM
Michael K said...: " if we are honest about the amount of mental real estate we devote to anticipating danger, we are told we are man-haters.”

This is bullshit. I have three daughters. The youngest is 25, the oldest 48. None has had any experience that sound like this stuff. They were all pretty and liked men. The youngest graduated from U of Arizona in 2013. She once called the cops on a guy who was beating up his girlfriend and has no hesitation about speaking up. All three know how to shoot and the oldest is an FBI agent and carries a gun everywhere.

This is a war on men. I hope it is over by the time my grandson is college age.; 9/25/15, 8:23 PM
Darleen said...: In order to decrease the prevalence of rapes, Harding said society needs to stop telling women to protect themselves from rape, and instead tell men to stop raping.

Holy Jesus ... let's try this

"In order to decrease the prevalence of robbery, society needs to stop telling people how to protect themselves from robbers and instead tell people to stop robbing."

Earth to Harding - criminals don't care what you tell them.

Harding (and other female supremacists) whose message to men is that society should view them as guilty of rapey thoughts & actions as a default position alienates the men while the tiny tiny minority of rapists are going "yeah, baby, don't protect yourself!"; 9/25/15, 8:38 PM
The Godfather said...: "In order to decrease the prevalence of rapes, Harding said society needs to stop telling women to protect themselves from rape, and instead tell men to stop raping."

Gosh, if only old Dad had sat me down and told me not to rape, I wouldn't be doing 99 years to life in the state pen. And I sure wish my cell mate's old dad had given him that message.; 9/25/15, 8:43 PM
Fred Drinkwater said...: Read the column. There's got to be a story behind the bald assertion that her school found that the man she accused was "not the one who raped her." Combined with the "everyone" remarked upon above by Henry, I'm afraid I may, just now, have had a leetle tiny urge to do a teeny tiny bit of victim-blaming here.; 9/25/15, 8:50 PM
Fred Drinkwater said...: When my daughter was little, I used to joke that I'd have to teach her to use a shotgun to defend herself later in life. But, later in life, she developed, on her own, an interest in what she called "pointy, clangy things" (i.e. swords and knives). Her interest was common knowledge among her school friends, middle school through Uni.
In any event, I was never called upon to educate her about shotguns (good thing, too, since I know jack about shotguns).; 9/25/15, 8:56 PM
Achilles said...: These women need to move to Afghanistan. It should be a mandatory minimum sentence for anyone that refers to anything on a college campus as a "rape culture" to go visit a country like Iraq for a year and see how women have it in places not protected by people they refer to as rapists.

I have done more to fight for female equality than any 100 of these whiny activists. And yet I am assumed to be a rapist because we have a "rape culture." These people are disgusting.; 9/25/15, 9:03 PM
Big Mike said...: According to the article, Harding is bitter that she claimed to have been raped but the university, when it investigated, said that it couldn't have been the person she claimed it was. Wow. She fingered a guy with an alibi? And she continues to ... what? Claim that the university is wrong and she's right? That reality folded in on itself and the guy was in two places at the same time? We all accept and understand that rape is a horrid crime, but she needs to accept that perhaps she's too eager to hurt an innocent man in order to exact her revenge. And society won't stand for that.

And as to Harding's notion that "society needs to stop telling women to protect themselves from rape, and instead tell men to stop raping," well earth to Harding. Rape, real rape not "I woke up hung over and in bed with a guy I don't know and don't like," is a crime. And criminals already know that they shouldn't be doing the crimes they do. That's part of the fun.; 9/25/15, 9:05 PM
Big Mike said...: @Fred, you put the round hollow end against your shoulder and point the wooden end at the guy you mean to shoot. No, wait. Maybe I have that backwards.

Anyway, YouTube is full of videos of girls shooting 12 gauge shotguns and falling on their butts. Despite Joe Biden's advice, the best defensive weapon for a woman is not a shotgun. In fact, I'm inclined to think that whatever Joe Biden says to do, the best tactic is to do something else.; 9/25/15, 9:12 PM
rhhardin said...: It must be a slippery slope sort of rape.; 9/25/15, 9:21 PM
sean said...: From the picture, the lecture looks like a good place to meet girls, but, as the saying goes, "The odds are good, but the goods are odd."; 9/25/15, 9:22 PM
Michael said...: Darleen

You have hit on the problem. They are not talking about criminals, they are talking about people they want to make criminals.; 9/25/15, 9:47 PM
mccullough said...: "Everyone involved" sounds like an orgy. Bizarre phrasing; 9/25/15, 10:21 PM
William said...: Political correctness has been directly responsible for a number of rapes. Exhibit A: Bill Cosby.; 9/25/15, 11:01 PM
Quaestor said...: Apparently some Saudi princes know how to walk the "rape line." Majed Abdulaziz Al-Saud was arrested Wednesday by the LAPD on suspicion of forced copulation with an adult -- not rape, forced copulation.; 9/25/15, 11:10 PM
William said...: I'm willing to admit that there is such a thing as rape, but I don't think it fair to say that all men are potential rapists or complicit in the crime.....Date risk: Women have always had to accept the possibility of date rape. Now men have to accept the possibility of date rape allegations. There's a rough parity here. That's not the same as equality.; 9/25/15, 11:12 PM
Wince said...: I'd wager these "completely into it" sexual consent policies have a disparate impact on ugly people.; 9/25/15, 11:18 PM
Bob Loblaw said...: Women have always had to accept the possibility of date rape. Now men have to accept the possibility of date rape allegations.

But women who were actually raped had the law for redress. What do falsely accused men have? Is anybody going to be surprised when they start getting justice for themselves?; 9/26/15, 12:22 AM
Beorn said...: I think my right hand just raped me!; 9/26/15, 12:24 AM
Smilin' Jack said...: ""Don’t think: 'How close can I get to the rape line?... but instead: 'How sure can I be that everyone involved in this sexual encounter is completely into it?'"

No. Think instead: 'How sure can I be that this bitch, who's barely a 7, isn't going to realize that I just need to get my rocks off, and freak out and cry "rape" when I don't call her again?'"; 9/26/15, 12:26 AM
Fred Drinkwater said...: Big Mike: Back then I was thinking more along the lines of a 14 or 16 gauge, you know, a "girl gun" (but see my previous note about my extensive gun knowledge...)
Maybe something recoiless? I think I just saw a link to a video of some Russians shooting RPG-7 rounds at (i.e. through) bulletproof glass somewhere...; 9/26/15, 12:34 AM
Fred Drinkwater said...: Oops...that video was on Glenn's site, not here.; 9/26/15, 12:48 AM
Smilin' Jack said...: Thank you for participating, Fred. Your posts make us all feel smarter.; 9/26/15, 1:06 AM
Fred Drinkwater said...: I live to serve, Jack.; 9/26/15, 1:56 AM
Quaestor said...: Judging by her "chunky" build (there's the word of the day in use!) Kate Harding is probably fantasizing when she speaks of "rape culture."; 9/26/15, 3:23 AM
Christopher said...: I'm trying to remember the last time a post/video/article that was labeled with some version of "Person X destroys issue y" actually convinced me of anything.; 9/26/15, 5:58 AM
stlcdr said...: Who knew book stores had a rape culture?; 9/26/15, 6:14 AM
Fen said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 9/26/15, 6:21 AM
Fen said...: The author, Harding, is really no different than the BlackLivesMatter crowd that use dead blacks as props to advance themselves and profit.

She NEEDS for there to be a rape culture, so she can sell her book.; 9/26/15, 6:21 AM
Fen said...: Whats really nuts, these same women who dive for the fainting couch when a male awkwardly leans in for a kiss on a first date are the same women who are cool with dissecting babies born alive....

Sharia is starting to resonate with me.; 9/26/15, 6:44 AM
CStanley said...: It never seems to occurs to these women that what is missing is an emotional connection built on trust. Don't get into sexual situations without that, and you won't experience this kind of rape (the other kind, violent rape by strangers, is a different situation but much less common.); 9/26/15, 8:11 AM
jeff said...: Big Mike said:
"Society won't stand for that"
Two words

Bill Clinton

The left will stand for anything if it moves the boulder in their favor.; 9/26/15, 8:22 AM
Francisco D said...: Let me guess.

For "society" to tell men to stop raping, we will need a "Rape Czar" with a large administrative staff and a $25B budget.; 9/26/15, 8:32 AM
Birkel said...: Bicycles are very bad at drawing lines unless their tires are wet. And fish are wet because they live under water. Therefore, fish should ride bicycles if they want clear lines. Or something.; 9/26/15, 8:46 AM
clint said...: "In order to decrease the prevalence of rapes, Harding said society needs to stop telling women to protect themselves from rape, and instead tell men to stop raping."

This is the bit that always makes me back away from the crazy person.

How delusional do you need to be to think that men in our society aren't already being told not to rape women?; 9/26/15, 9:15 AM
Big Mike said...: @Fred, I've never seen a 14. A 16 doesn't kick a whole lot less than a 12, though I've seen women handle 16s in competition. Stoeger makes a wicked 20 gauge double barreled coach gun -- a shotgun with short (20") barrels -- with both wooden stocks and polymer.; 9/26/15, 11:12 AM
JAORE said...: I understand the 14 gauge was made, in small numbers and, typically, by European makers. Even the 16 gauge is getting rare having been supplanted by both the 12 and 20. But at least you can still find shells.

The 20 is much more manageable and commonplace.; 9/26/15, 12:09 PM
Carnifex said...: For low recoil try a 28 or a 410. 410's are very common and even com as a pistol variant.

Not all but most of the women in my family care concealed. Even the liberals have started. I love it myself. And they do too. It empowers them more than any stupid author like this idiot.; 9/26/15, 6:12 PM
eddie willers said...: "One poke over the line, sweet Jesus"; 9/26/15, 8:21 PM
wildswan said...: It's kind of strange to me that "there are no genders" is running in tandem with "there is a rape culture caused by men". That women do not lie about rape while men do not know that rape is wrong but there are no genders.

I think that coed dorms and gender-free bathrooms as a policy are going to collide with "any woman can accuse any man at any time and be believed" as a policy

But more to the point, I think lovers and thinkers should try to take back the campuses. They could have slogans: "All we are saying/Is give love a chance". And Free speech advocates could join them. "Seems to me/That people everywhere just want to be free". Controversial readings like the Sermon on the Mount could be a feature. Socrates and then the European tradition could be rediscovered.

There could be art projects. Awful things done by men could form collage subjects - land on the Moon, calculus, Apple computers. Good things now being done by women: Show the Planned Parenthood videos; a hockey stick chart showing how many men in the last ten years have been accused of sexual assault on college campuses and expelled on the word of a woman without Constitutional protections.

Bill wants his rights; 9/27/15, 9:00 AM
jr565 said...: ""... but instead: 'How sure can I be that everyone involved in this sexual encounter is completely into it?'" SOme more radical feminists argue that even when a woman gives consent she may not really be giving her consent.

For example: http://cmcforum.com/opinion/04302015-why-yes-can-mean-no

So, its a good question. How can we be sure? When even the actual word yes is subject to an internal monologues that we must glean through osmosis, maybe the problem is in fact women.; 9/27/15, 1:54 PM
Big Mike said...: Last night on "48 Hours" CBS ran a program about the rape and murder of Hannah Graham and Morgan Harrington in Charlottesville, VA. Nice to see the Mainstream Media paying attention to real rapes instead of made up stories.; 9/27/15, 4:46 PM