Althouse: "We can now name the winner of the GOP debate: Ben Carson."

August 16, 2015

"We can now name the winner of the GOP debate: Ben Carson."

Says Philip Bump, graphing the polls.

37 comments:

Big Mike said...: Nope. It was Carly.; 8/16/15, 4:24 PM
Beldar said...: Because actual votes cast by actual voters at the actual polls for the two dominant parties' actual nominees in the actual election don't matter any more.

Or do they?; 8/16/15, 4:29 PM
YoungHegelian said...: Proof yet again that those goddamn Republicans are so racist! They never give a brutha' an even break!; 8/16/15, 4:37 PM
traditionalguy said...: Carson has had it easy so far. When the Media attack dogs do corner him they just sit there silently smiling and admiring him for his fascinating intelligence in all of his answers.

When the media loves a black GOP guy there is an agenda at work. Do thy want him to be an antidote to Mr.
Bombastic; 8/16/15, 4:41 PM
Birkel said...: My preference for a conservative with executive experiences remains unchanged.; 8/16/15, 4:42 PM
I'm Full of Soup said...: The winners were anybody who bashed the Imperial City cartel..Trump, Carly, Carson, Cruz.

Though not sure why Walker didn't get a bump- I think perhaps he is too soft spoken kinda boring that night.; 8/16/15, 5:01 PM
Michael K said...: Carson is a very nice man who is very smart. His lack of experience will eventual hurt him but he is riding on a wave of good will.

Carly has to construct a response to the angry techies who blame her for their loss of jobs at HP.

Cruz has the support of the same people who like Trump but who have higher standards.; 8/16/15, 5:06 PM
I'm Full of Soup said...: I agree with all three of your points Michael K.; 8/16/15, 5:20 PM
MathMom said...: "Carly has to construct a response to the angry techies who blame her for their loss of jobs at HP."

"There is still an HP." Maybe that should be the answer.

They did the same thing to Mitt - screaming You laid off people!!! What he did was create all the jobs at Staples, but he got no thank-you notes for those, did he?; 8/16/15, 5:38 PM
mtrobertslaw said...: How does the "experience" of professional politicians like Hillary, Uncle Joe or Obama translate into the wisdom that is necessary to actually solve a serious national problem?; 8/16/15, 5:44 PM
Michael K said...: I'm reading Robert Conquest's "Reflections on a Ravaged Century." The Introduction makes a very good point that echoes in our own day.

Real prowess in wrong-headedness, as in most other fields of human endeavour, presupposes considerable education, character,sophistication, knowledge and will to succeed.

Sounds like the top tier Obama voter.; 8/16/15, 5:51 PM
Anonymous said...: Because actual votes cast by actual voters at the actual polls for the two dominant parties' actual nominees in the actual election don't matter any more

When did that ever matter?; 8/16/15, 6:08 PM
Anonymous said...: I love Ben Carson, so does my wife, but when the focus turns to him, they will tear him down quickly and easily like they did Herman Cain. Hopefully, Trump will provide enough cover for Ben Carson to get a clue on how to respond when he is attacked. I've not been encouraged by his previous responses, which are to back down and offer apologies. Ugh.; 8/16/15, 6:37 PM
David Aitken said...: Michael K said: "Carly has to construct a response to the angry techies who blame her for their loss of jobs at HP."

I think the appropriate response might be something like "My choices were to do nothing and let the company go broke, thereby costing 150K(?) jobs, or let 30K people go and save the company. Which would you choose?"; 8/16/15, 6:46 PM
Michael K said...: "My choices were to do nothing and let the company go broke, "

I think she has to do better by explaining what was going on. It was the end of the tech bubble of the 90s, etc.

Romney never did that. Nobody ever saw the photos of him loading garbage trucks as governor when he did every state job for a day. Too bad.; 8/16/15, 7:29 PM
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Titus said...: I am watching Show Me A Hero on HBO and noticed the judge was Leonard B. Sand-Althouse you clerked for him!

Diva Althouse; 8/16/15, 7:59 PM
Levi Starks said...: I dare not allow myself to dream of a man of such honor and integrity in the office of the presidency.; 8/16/15, 9:14 PM
Original Mike said...: "Carly has to construct a response to the angry techies who blame her for their loss of jobs at HP."

She does a very good job fielding that question. I've heard her answer it at least five times.; 8/16/15, 10:19 PM
gadfly said...: Congratulations to the Althouse blog - Alexa traffic ranks Althouse as #115 among the Top 300 Conservative Blogs according to Doug Ross.; 8/16/15, 10:44 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Idiots who don't know Fox News' advertisers won are worthy of something...; 8/16/15, 11:09 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Oh but since I commented then, meta-wise, their plan succeeded.

Okay then.

Fine.; 8/16/15, 11:10 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Why "the winner" and not "the" winners?

Because my understanding of language is incomplete, of course as is anyone's. Therefore, quite Biblically, the same disregard for the concept of "loyal opposition" is asserting.

But I will now not allow a singular "the winner" to supersede the greatness of "the winners."; 8/16/15, 11:21 PM
Phil 314 said...: Pre-season football.; 8/16/15, 11:29 PM
Guildofcannonballs said...: Frankly I understand why very few people who read this will be so unstupid as to prevent the next genocide.

I do not yet believe the goal of the Genociders is absolute death of everyone everywhere, yet the disregard of human life by those whom attempt speaking with authority of morals not 100% bankrupt speak louder than the mediocre actions thus far in our century compared to the last.

Or indeed others before it.

You evil people aren't stupid, just merely the same old evil decent people have always known.; 8/17/15, 1:50 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: "Pre-season football."

Anyone near San Francisco ought worry about anything but the determined effort to keep poor persons poor in Alameda County.

After all, no intellectually honest entity capable of thought would consider the income inequality in San Fransisco anything other than the triumph of a "Gay*" agenda incorporating hating poor persons of potentially religious determination.

Some day, when justice is more than a concept dreamed up by Leftists drunk on power, real homosexuals will advocate how much they hate lawyers and flamers raping the cause of equality.

*Same old standard Leftism like the leaders of the Democractics; 8/17/15, 2:01 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: "Some day, when justice is more than a concept dreamed up by Leftists drunk on power, real homosexuals will advocate how much they hate lawyers and flamers raping the cause of equality."

You bet your behind I am quoting myself, and I'll do it again, just so ya know.

The evil consists of using intelligence to manipulate when you could teach.

Indeed lawyers are immune to this truth because of desensitization.

Many congrats.; 8/17/15, 2:40 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/08/the-ghetto-jew-and-israel.html; 8/17/15, 2:48 AM
Brando said...: Is this evidence that the debates helped Carson, or just evidence that he's been polling better since the debates? Because it didn't seem he got to talk much during the debates.; 8/17/15, 5:59 AM
Jaq said...: I appreciate what Trump is doing, but I think he is reaching his sell-by date, and I am glad he is doing it this far before the general election.

Carly has to construct a response to the angry techies who blame her for their loss of jobs at HP

I don't think the 30K techies who lost their jobs in a restructuring of a giant corporation with hundreds of thousands of employees is the real problem. At least not the people themselves. HP is now the dominant player in the server market, a position that Carly set up by purchasing Compaq and through Compaq DEC. Lots of big tech companies avoid the bad publicity of layoffs by "hiring" contractors but they all have to do it. Growth is change. The government never lays anybody off and it just grows and grows and grows and gets more and unwieldy and inefficient. In the private sector that would mean you get bought by somebody else who then comes in and clears the dead wood.

The layoff issue is just a club to beat her with for the stupid. No rational explanation is going to prevent them from using it.; 8/17/15, 6:45 AM
Brando said...: "The layoff issue is just a club to beat her with for the stupid. No rational explanation is going to prevent them from using it."

Unfortunately it's still an effective tactic--look at how they used it against Romney. This electorate believes good businessmen never lay anyone off, never post a loss, and never take more than a modest salary.

For me the biggest issue for Carson and Fiorina is the fact that they've never served in government, and while this isn't an automatic disqualifier I would be interested during the campaign hearing them demonstrate that they know enough how government works that they wouldn't flail about if they took office. The skill sets in running a government are very different from the private sector.; 8/17/15, 6:50 AM
Larry J said...: I think that Dr. Carson is probably too good a man for politics. He came up the hard way, had an outstanding career as a neurosurgeon, and by all accounts is a genuinely good man. The political establishment will do everything possible to destroy him because he is everything they aren't.; 8/17/15, 7:13 AM
B said...: Carson won with the dopiest policy answer. Taxes like tithing. Huckabee won Iowa with that schtick. No wonder Carson is surging.; 8/17/15, 8:57 AM
Larry J said...: B said...
Carson won with the dopiest policy answer. Taxes like tithing

If 10% is good enough for God, it should be good enough for government.; 8/17/15, 9:17 AM
Drago said...: ""We can now name the winner of the GOP debate: Ben Carson.""

This is not possible because every lefty everywhere at all times assures me that the republican party has no one but old white males running.

This was also stated in 2012 when the Republican party was pronounced dead.

Again.

Because the republican party was pronounced really really really not-kidding-this-time dead in 2008.

Which was after it was pronounced super-duper dead in '92 and '96.

Not to mention the death of the republican party in 1964.

So many "deaths'. So few graves.

Now, don't get me wrong. If the establishment republicans had their way, it would be dead. But something always seems to happen on the way to the wake to fiddle with their best laid plans.; 8/17/15, 10:05 AM
Known Unknown said...: I see you missed the opportunity to play of Phil Bump's last name.

Carson got a Bump in the polls!; 8/17/15, 11:47 AM
Jaq said...: How are taxes not like tithing? In every single way? Giving a percentage of your income is a feature of both tithing and taxing. Tithing is the earliest form of an income tax I am aware of in the western tradition, anyways.

I don't get why it is stupid to say that taxes are like tithing, but I see it all the time from lefties.; 8/17/15, 6:31 PM