The $35 million project, Green Man Cannabis Ranch and Amphitheater, the brainchild of Christian Hageseth, is set to open in Denver. Its greenhouses represent a major shift because producers have largely cultivated marijuana indoors; there will also be a performance space, a restaurant, a rooftop bar, a gift shop and, of course, a marijuana dispensary.
And will the NYT do an interview after the Feds seize the place?
The weedery green houses and pot business in Colorado in general was pretty- whats the word? - banal. We preferred the lavender farms of New Mexico at Abiquiu. Must be getting old.
The health effects of smoking marijuana are almost certainly the same as smoking tobacco, because the destructive distillation of the leaves produces the same sort of tars, carbon monoxides and other byproducts found in tobacco smoke. The only reason this isn't obvious is that we don't have decades of data on tens of millions of users.
It should also be pointed out that the sale and use of marijuana is illegal in every jurisdiction of the US, because marijuana is a federally controlled substance. Saying a State or city can legalize marijuana is the same as saying a State or city can mandate school prayer (Protestant, like the old days) and school segregation. (Article VI, paragraph 2)
Addendum - the goofy names they give that stuff these days - Sour Diesel or Clyster Bomb are so trite. They remind me of the names they give beers in hipster breweries as in "Sour Dog Left Leg". Try Thai Stick circa 1971. That's a name place buzz.
But even supposing that's true, does a marijuana toker consume as many puffs as a cigarette smoker? I've never done either, so I don't really know, but like, if they were exactly the same, but the marijuana toker only takes a fraction of the hits that the cigarette smoker takes throughout the day (my observed experience of the two consumption behaviors), wouldn't it stand to reason that the former is receiving fewer overall "monoxides and other byproducts" and therefore less hazardous than the latter?
After she's done work for the day, Jane Fonda in Klute (1971) smokes a little weed, then seems to be perfectly unhigh later on when she's in bed for the night, reading a book. I guess that meant something more back in those days than I can figure out today, having never seen the movie before yesterday.
Well, I can't say I've seen the movie. I stopped watching maybe halfway through mostly because I found nothing interesting about Ms Fonda's character. She had no past. No future. No family. No culture. No mind. She never cracked a smile. She wasn't nice. She wasn't a struggling underdog.
Was she some kind of archetype of the "liberated woman?" I really don't know. That ship has sailed, in any event.
One good thing came out of it, though. I got to see where Mad Men lifted some parts of it. For example, the interaction with the psychologist to indicate ambivalence. The gay show business director/producer was copied note-for-note as Meagan's theatrical agent.
Perhaps I should add that I didn't think that haircut was at all flattering.
One of the things that bugs me about the culture of "craft beer" is that all "craft beer" is priced as if it is a luxury product but a huge proportion of it is marketed as if it is intended for goofy 14 year olds.
Having now skimmed the linked article, it seems that Christian Hageseth might be a regular enough kind of guy, but I'll bet he's growing female breasts, which is God's way of smiting the sinful pot smoking reprobate.
Weed smoke is a thicker, somewhat richer substance than most cigarette smoke. I've smoked both. In the past week.
You are correct though, that when one smokes week, one usually takes a few big hits, and then does not smoke it again until one wishes to be intoxicated again. For stoners, it might be 3 hours later. For your casual user, it will probably be next Friday night, and maybe again on Saturday. If there's any left, maybe a wake'n'bake on Sunday morning.
But cigarette smokers are doing more damage over the long run because, except for those goofballs who "only smoke when they drink", they're generally smoking anywhere from 10 to 25 per day, each and every day, for months or years or decades. Quite a bit different than smoking once or twice per week for the same period of time. With cigarettes, the damage accumulates. With light to moderate weed smoking, your lungs probably have a chance to heal between smoking sessions.
Some time ago I got into weightlifting. It keeps the man-boobs at bay. You are correct though - chronic pot use with no exercise will lead to man boobs. It'd happen anyway, but the pot will make it worse.
We have a friend who is a firefighter. He says they're getting used to calls coming in from middle aged people trying to relive their youth with the new, "legal" pot dispensaries. They end up calling 911 because they think they're dying; modern pot is a whole lot more potent than it was 30 or 40 years ago. They show up and basically have to babysit these idiots until it passes.
That's hilarious. I tread lightly around edibles, but not out of worry about my sanity or enjoyment. Mainly because they tend to induce sleepiness, or promote excessive snacking.
There are few examples of rapidly legalizing freedom that Althouse resents more than the marijuana industry. You have to wonder what it is that scares her so much about it.
The San Francisco Chronicle had a huge article in the Food section last Sunday, about artisanal "medibles." (Yes, they do purport to be artisanal, and yes, "medibles" is now an actual word, at least in SF.) There was much info on the boutiques' difficulties with banks and the like; much, also about how "Madame Munchie" and "Flour Child" and other providers aren't like those hucksters of medical marijuana who just try to cram in as much THC as possible. Oh, nooooo; they're all about subtly complementing the herbal essence with hints of sage and hazelnut butter and so forth.
It was all too CA-twee for words. Of course, CA hasn't got recreational legalization yet, so every, er, customer will have to present proof of medical need. It shouldn't be difficult, as all the boutique proprietors necessarily have it already, as does every dispensary they buy from.
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28 comments:
Where was that place?
Just be careful of the candy bars... (ala Maureen Dowd)
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/04/opinion/dowd-dont-harsh-our-mellow-dude.html
I felt like Michelangelo...
No, I think it was Shakespeare.
Good to see federal criminals thinking outside the box. Lucky Luciano, and Al Capone would have approved.
Oh, crap, yet again.
You're supposed to resist it.
Why aren't you resisting?
The $35 million project, Green Man Cannabis Ranch and Amphitheater, the brainchild of Christian Hageseth, is set to open in Denver. Its greenhouses represent a major shift because producers have largely cultivated marijuana indoors; there will also be a performance space, a restaurant, a rooftop bar, a gift shop and, of course, a marijuana dispensary.
And will the NYT do an interview after the Feds seize the place?
"Weedery" is such a silly, twee, hipster word. It's appropriate that the farm buries the word deep in their web site and the NYT jumps on it.
Of course, if you light a cigarette they'll have you arrested.
The weedery green houses and pot business in Colorado in general was pretty- whats the word? - banal. We preferred the lavender farms of New Mexico at Abiquiu. Must be getting old.
I think I saw them on Justified.
The health effects of smoking marijuana are almost certainly the same as smoking tobacco, because the destructive distillation of the leaves produces the same sort of tars, carbon monoxides and other byproducts found in tobacco smoke. The only reason this isn't obvious is that we don't have decades of data on tens of millions of users.
It should also be pointed out that the sale and use of marijuana is illegal in every jurisdiction of the US, because marijuana is a federally controlled substance. Saying a State or city can legalize marijuana is the same as saying a State or city can mandate school prayer (Protestant, like the old days) and school segregation. (Article VI, paragraph 2)
Addendum - the goofy names they give that stuff these days - Sour Diesel or Clyster Bomb are so trite. They remind me of the names they give beers in hipster breweries as in "Sour Dog Left Leg". Try Thai Stick circa 1971. That's a name place buzz.
Sykes,
But even supposing that's true, does a marijuana toker consume as many puffs as a cigarette smoker? I've never done either, so I don't really know, but like, if they were exactly the same, but the marijuana toker only takes a fraction of the hits that the cigarette smoker takes throughout the day (my observed experience of the two consumption behaviors), wouldn't it stand to reason that the former is receiving fewer overall "monoxides and other byproducts" and therefore less hazardous than the latter?
"Sanctuary cities" and "legal marijuana" are both forms of "nullification" or "interposition," i.e., sedition leading to insurrection.
Smoking weed isn't as personal experience as drinking wine. Weed smoke permeates everything.
(What if wine tastings were like weed tastings? Part of the wine you'd be tasting would have been puked by somebody else in the room.)
I don't like the way weed smells these days. Too skunky.
Smart marketing with a helping hand from the Lefty dopes at the NYT.
After she's done work for the day, Jane Fonda in Klute (1971) smokes a little weed, then seems to be perfectly unhigh later on when she's in bed for the night, reading a book. I guess that meant something more back in those days than I can figure out today, having never seen the movie before yesterday.
Well, I can't say I've seen the movie. I stopped watching maybe halfway through mostly because I found nothing interesting about Ms Fonda's character. She had no past. No future. No family. No culture. No mind. She never cracked a smile. She wasn't nice. She wasn't a struggling underdog.
Was she some kind of archetype of the "liberated woman?" I really don't know. That ship has sailed, in any event.
One good thing came out of it, though. I got to see where Mad Men lifted some parts of it. For example, the interaction with the psychologist to indicate ambivalence. The gay show business director/producer was copied note-for-note as Meagan's theatrical agent.
Perhaps I should add that I didn't think that haircut was at all flattering.
Sharing the wine bottle is the new passing the joint experience, it has been said.
As the sibling of a horticulturist, I'd find the greenhouse tour interesting.
But why go to Colorado to be indoors?
One of the things that bugs me about the culture of "craft beer" is that all "craft beer" is priced as if it is a luxury product but a huge proportion of it is marketed as if it is intended for goofy 14 year olds.
Makes me feel like a grumpy old man.
Having now skimmed the linked article, it seems that Christian Hageseth might be a regular enough kind of guy, but I'll bet he's growing female breasts, which is God's way of smiting the sinful pot smoking reprobate.
You can lead a horticulture...
Bobby,
Weed smoke is a thicker, somewhat richer substance than most cigarette smoke. I've smoked both. In the past week.
You are correct though, that when one smokes week, one usually takes a few big hits, and then does not smoke it again until one wishes to be intoxicated again. For stoners, it might be 3 hours later. For your casual user, it will probably be next Friday night, and maybe again on Saturday. If there's any left, maybe a wake'n'bake on Sunday morning.
But cigarette smokers are doing more damage over the long run because, except for those goofballs who "only smoke when they drink", they're generally smoking anywhere from 10 to 25 per day, each and every day, for months or years or decades. Quite a bit different than smoking once or twice per week for the same period of time. With cigarettes, the damage accumulates. With light to moderate weed smoking, your lungs probably have a chance to heal between smoking sessions.
Eric,
Some time ago I got into weightlifting. It keeps the man-boobs at bay. You are correct though - chronic pot use with no exercise will lead to man boobs. It'd happen anyway, but the pot will make it worse.
We have a friend who is a firefighter. He says they're getting used to calls coming in from middle aged people trying to relive their youth with the new, "legal" pot dispensaries. They end up calling 911 because they think they're dying; modern pot is a whole lot more potent than it was 30 or 40 years ago. They show up and basically have to babysit these idiots until it passes.
That's hilarious. I tread lightly around edibles, but not out of worry about my sanity or enjoyment. Mainly because they tend to induce sleepiness, or promote excessive snacking.
There are few examples of rapidly legalizing freedom that Althouse resents more than the marijuana industry. You have to wonder what it is that scares her so much about it.
The San Francisco Chronicle had a huge article in the Food section last Sunday, about artisanal "medibles." (Yes, they do purport to be artisanal, and yes, "medibles" is now an actual word, at least in SF.) There was much info on the boutiques' difficulties with banks and the like; much, also about how "Madame Munchie" and "Flour Child" and other providers aren't like those hucksters of medical marijuana who just try to cram in as much THC as possible. Oh, nooooo; they're all about subtly complementing the herbal essence with hints of sage and hazelnut butter and so forth.
It was all too CA-twee for words. Of course, CA hasn't got recreational legalization yet, so every, er, customer will have to present proof of medical need. It shouldn't be difficult, as all the boutique proprietors necessarily have it already, as does every dispensary they buy from.
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