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"You're attracted to me. You're intrigued by me. You think I'm a wild horse that needs to be tamed. I understand all of that; it's the new frontier of misogyny."

"Take a woman that's in control of her life, and then silence her. And I'm up for it!" That's a line from an episode of "Girls" that aired last March and I finally got around to watching this week. (I'd been keeping up with the show all these years until an episode last winter when the Lena Dunham character took to her bed in depression and wouldn't get out. I guess I felt that I, at least, had to get out.)

Anyway, I was intrigued by that new frontier of misogyny, and I think there really is a thing properly described as "Take a woman that's in control of her life, and then silence her."

But what got me looking up a recap of that episode — Season 4, Episode 8 — was the line, in response to that old cliché "It's not about you" — "It's not not about me." There's a conversational move you might want to consider.

I felt like there was an old "Seinfeld" episode about the phrase "It's not about you," but it turns out that — "The Lip Reader" — was about the similar but different phrase "It's not you, it's me."
Gwen: It's not you, it's me.

George: You're giving me the "it's not you, it's me" routine? I invented "it's not you, it's me". Nobody tells me it's them not me, if it's anybody it's me.

Gwen: All right, George, it's you.

George: You're damn right it's me.

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Bob Ellison বলেছেন...

You just don't get it, do you?

Hammond X. Gritzkofe বলেছেন...

Take a woman that's in control of her life, and then silence her.

A sexless verbal rape?

Where does that rank on the scale of offenses? Above microagression and sticking-out-tongue but short of murder-dismemberment-anthropaphagy?

Gahrie বলেছেন...

Why are you defending a child molester who has lied about rape?

SGT Ted বলেছেন...

"Misogyny" is becoming overused/abused, much like "racism" has been. Whenever I hear "misogyny", I know the speakers simply wants others to shut up and give her what she wants, or do what she says.

Letting a woman be in control of her life and wanting her to shut up are two different things.

Carol বলেছেন...

Oh man, I have missed so much TV...what on earth was I doing all those years?

rhhardin বলেছেন...

Susan Boyle, Wild Horses

Stephen J. বলেছেন...

Would they prefer "Take a woman who's not in control of her life, and then save her"? Because I was under the impression that wasn't thought of too highly either.

Bay Area Guy বলেছেন...

I saw one episode of Girls to check out the buzz. It was awful. Unwatchable. The girls portrayed are unlikeable, unattractive, unbearable. One could derive more insight and wisdom from watching old re-runs of Petticoat Junction.

Laslo Spatula বলেছেন...

Once the clitoris is properly stimulated any woman can be tamed.

I am Laslo.

Ann Althouse বলেছেন...

Who are you people?

Laslo Spatula বলেছেন...

Ann Althouse said...
"Who are you people?"

I am Laslo.

Roughcoat বলেছেন...

The term "mysogny" sets off my bullshit alarms.

holdfast বলেছেন...

Williams is cute. I wouldn't f@ck Dunham with a donated Zulu penis.

holdfast বলেছেন...

Ann Althouse said...
"Who are you people?"

I am Laslo.

6/13/15, 8:53 AM"


Kinda walked into that one.



rhhardin বলেছেন...



The Proposal (Sandra Bullock Ryan Reynolds)

... Here we are. We're home.

Margaret: That is your home? Who are you people?

Margaret: Why did you tell me you were poor?

Andrew: I never said I was poor.

Margaret: But you never told me you were rich.

Andrew: I'm not rich. My parents are rich.

Margaret: OK, you know what? That's something only rich people say.

Gahrie বলেছেন...

Who are you people?


Does anybody think that Althouse would be defending/promoting a man who admitted to molesting his sister and who had been (falsely) accused of rape?

But again

woman = good

man = bad

rhhardin বলেছেন...

I missed the Lena Dunham thing entirely, but there's an issue of the Oberlin Alumni Magazine devoted to her. This is before the one devoted to Baltimore's Mayor.

Spring issues seem to have bad timing.

Fen বলেছেন...

and then silence her.

Yes, truth be told. Women talk too much and it annoys us. Smart women recognize this and adapt.

Dunham is also another rape hoaxer.

নামহীন বলেছেন...

There's a woman on that show who's in control of her life? When did that happen?

Laslo Spatula বলেছেন...

I bet that you could tame Lena Dunham with candy and ice cream.

I am Laslo.

Sebastian বলেছেন...

"I think there really is a thing properly described as "Take a woman that's in control of her life, and then silence her.""

In the age of the permanent and universal whine, is any woman ever "silenced"?

What's "a thing," anyway? Is one thing enough to make a thing a thing? Or do you need lots of things to make a thing a thing? If so, how many?

If silence refers to murder, then the proposition is bound to be true. But that has always been a thing. If we are taking about crime, then the point applies to more men.

Anyway, I'd want to see all the cases of women who 1. were "in control of their lives"; 2. were "taken"; and 3. were "silenced."

And then compare with all the men who had the same experience. Let's call it the Brendan Eich syndrome.

Phil 314 বলেছেন...

Wasn't this taming, owning thing one of the themes of the now very old feminist movie "An Unmarried Woman"?

Bob Ellison বলেছেন...

I know, right?

Anthony বলেছেন...

"Taming the wild horse" is not some "new frontier". It's an old, old storyline. At least 400 years old, as it's a Shakespeare play, and he stole plots and improved on them.

Also, in real life, "tamed" women aren't silenced - a woman actually in control of her life will remain so after getting married. It's women with no self-control and nothing worthwhile to say who will be silenced.

Laslo Spatula বলেছেন...

If my comments today advocating the importance of stimulating the clitoris move even one man to take my advice then I will have accomplished much in the battle against misogyny.

Chicks should dig that about me.

I am Laslo.

Meade বলেছেন...

Chicks dig the Laslo long ball.

Mike (MJB Wolf) বলেছেন...

So George to the rescue to save another lousy Lena post. Thanks men.

n.n বলেছেন...

The Mad Libs episode of "Girls".

... it's the new frontier in misandry.

Being green is in. Recycling is tres chic.

rcocean বলেছেন...

Lena Dunham - after reading this I don't care. Why is she famous?

rcocean বলেছেন...

She knows the right people in publishing and show biz - I assume.

Ann Althouse বলেছেন...

Who said it was new? I said it's a thing.

Gahrie বলেছেন...

hey...anybody know if Gary Glitter has a TV show?

Prediction:

Next season, the season opener will feature a cameo of mattress girl playing herself.

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