Why those 3? It makes me wonder how Scott Walker handled it. On Charlie Sykes's radio show on Wednesday he said:
I just think this is people who are chronically looking for ways to be upset about things instead of really looking what it is. I believe in protecting religious freedoms. It’s inherent in our state’s constitution. Heck, it’s inherent in our U.S. Constitution, and again, Wisconsin, we’ve done it, and we’re stronger for it.It may be "inherent in our U.S. Constitution," but that's not the way the U.S. Supreme Court has interpreted it. The Wisconsin Constitution, however, has been interpreted — by a unanimous Wisconsin Supreme Court — to require what Congress and various other states have put in RFRAs. Asked if Wisconsin should have a RFRA, he was able to say, correctly:
We don’t need to, in Wisconsin, we have it in the constitution. That’s the remarkable thing for all of the hype, particularly in media here in Wisconsin. We have it in the constitution... It’s even more entrenched than anything that can be in the state statues and we don’t have the kind of hype and hysteria that the national media is creating on this.... Remember, it’s not because what we have here, President Clinton signed something very similar to this nationally back in ‘93. President Obama voted for something like this in the neighboring state of Illinois when he was a state senator.Yeah, that's not going to fit too well in a Democratic Party fundraising email. I like the way he got on top of the "hype and hysteria" and the "chronically looking for ways to be upset about things."
As for discrimination against gay people, he said:
Again, if you look at the constitution there is both a combination of religious freedoms protecting the constitution and back in the ’80s, long, long ago when I was still a kid, there were also provisions there that would protect against discrimination including a gay or lesbian individual out there,... So there is a healthy balance of someone can’t be discriminated, say, in the workplace and that — but for someone who has a conscientious objection, based on their religious beliefs no matter what it might be, the constitution is pretty clear in the state.So, he avoids the political question here. He did the same thing for same-sex marriage, saying "It really doesn't matter what I think now.... It's in the constitution." The answer is in the constitution, and that's that.
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Scott Walker, profiles in courage.
Pence was a member of Congress too long. You need better political skills to be governor or President. Important to give up a vibe of Equanimity
It is interesting that no media went after Wisconsin's Governor. It was as if he was assumed to be on their side.
And Scott The Magnificent redirected the focus onto his youthfulness. Did you not know that he is one of the young folks who see nothing wrong with being a Gay person...and anyway, in Wisconsin that question does not arise!
I wonder if that's a corollary to the Wisconsin Idea? The Boundaries of the State are the boundaries of human's acceptance of sexual acts...see, it's right there in Robert LaFollette's Constitution somewhere inside the boundaries.
Just as George HW Bush lamented attempts to corner him on abortion as some type of litmus test. "It's in the constitution" really is a good answer.
"President Obama, you support entering every home and confiscating guns, don't you?"
"President Obama, you want life imprisonment for people who deny global warning, don't you?"
Guns, free speech, it's in the constitution. Why are you asking me stupid questions.
LIV outreach starts early.
Why not Walker?
Too much context to put in a quip.
A closeted Christian law professor at a prestigious law school puts it this way-
“The fact that Mike Pence can’t articulate it, and Asa Hutchinson doesn’t care and can’t articulate it, is shocking,” Kingsfield said. “Huckabee gets it and Santorum gets it, but they’re marginal figures. Why can’t Republicans articulate this?
This flap over a law and pizzeria in Indiana clarifies why I support Ted Cruz over Walker.
Walker stays on defense. He isn't interested in making the case. He isn't a happy warrior for the right. I'm not even sure what he believes, although I suspect he is rather conservative.
Ted Cruz on the other hand makes the positive case when given the chance. He doesn't play defense, he plays offense. He fights for our shared values.
I appreciate that.
It makes me wonder how Scott Walker handled it. On Charlie Sykes's radio show on Wednesday he said:
Sykes and Breitbart are one of the few media outlets Walker will talk to. Talk about friendly outlets -- Walker emails his talking points to Sykes ahead of time!
On the way to trying to convince people of things that just ain't true, the Democrats have inadvertently convinced themselves of a lot of things that just ain't true.
Chief among those delusions is that they are on a roll politically.
Even many gays find the Indiana bullying strategy odious.
So the reason we should support Cruz is that he will fight useless pyrrhic battles and lose the Presidency that a much more skillful politician who appeals to more than right wing hurt feelings could win Walkering away.
Growing up I never thought I'd see Orwell's two minutes of hate become the cornerstone of one of our major political parties.
Who do Democrats hate? Christians, apparently. Jews, though that's so far limited to those living in Israel. Anyone who doubts the "fierce urgency of global warming." Women like Sarah Palin who decline to abort Downs children. Gun owners. Working class white people, especially if male. Really anyone who dissents in the slightest from their orthodoxy.
Garage, complaining of talking points? Hilarious.
Sykes and Breitbart are one of the few media outlets Walker will talk to. Talk about friendly outlets
Outside those two media conglomerates, it appears you've conceded the rest are hostile.
This is the conversation they're always saying we need?
Once again a sensible approach from Walker.
If he can get that past the media moat around the public, he's got a good shot.
Garage, complaining of talking points? Hilarious
Not really a complaint. Just pointing out pathetic it is. Mark Belling. Jay Weber. Owen Robinson. Jeff Wagner. Icki McKenna. His scripted message goes out to all of them, yet, he knows literally nothing of illegal activities that happened in his office or alleged coordinating without outside groups. He's a Republican so I'm sure it's fine.
@Browndog: “The fact that Mike Pence can’t articulate it, and Asa Hutchinson doesn’t care and can’t articulate it, is shocking.”
It isn't. 1. GOP doesn't select for articulate thinkers. 2. CoC wing never cared about social issues, barely about foreign policy. 3. Until the day before yesterday, they didn't have to articulate what was commonly assumed. 4. Many GOP office holders still aren't clear about the continual s**tstorm lying in wait for them. And AA would add: 5. They just want to be liked.
I think Walker intuitively grasps what's likely to hit him, partly based on experience of course. Whether he has the brains and skills to deal with it effectively remans to be seen. His RFRA response wasn't bad. Striking a pose of reasonable balance may still persuade enough Americans.
By the way, that Kingsfield guy in the Dreher article Browndog linked to needs to come out of the closet. Could be cited next time someone calls AA "conservative."
Once again, the stark red, white, and black color scheme is a subtle reminder. The soft blue alternative contrasts the republicans.
This is the conversation they're always saying we need?
Yes.
A small town reporter just wanted to have a conversation with a girl working at a small town pizzeria.
Now, the small town pizza girl has probably experienced more trauma than she ever has or will in her life, while the small town reporter will probably be nominated for an award.
just talk to us....it won't hurt a bit..
There is a silver lining for all of the Republican hopefuls:
Now that the Left has staked out the position that you can't deny your product or service to someone who desires it for an event you find offensive, we won't see the usual complaints from lefty musicians when their music is played at Republican campaign events.
Right?
traditionalguy said: "So the reason we should support Cruz is that he will fight useless pyrrhic battles and lose the Presidency that a much more skillful politician who appeals to more than right wing hurt feelings could win Walkering away."
Actually Cruz and Walker both poll about the same against Clinton. In the most recent poll, they both lose to Clinton by exactly the same margin. And Walker hasn't yet been demonized in the national media to anywhere near the extent that Cruz has- but he wins the nomination, he will be.
If two candidates poll the same, why go with the squishier one (unless squishiness is what you want)?
And what's the evidence that Walker is a "much more skillful politician" than Cruz?
Aside from being a much better debater and orator than Walker, Cruz defeated a far better-funded establishment candidate in a primary in which he was considered an extreme underdog. What similarly impressive victory has Walker achieved? In the union battle, he always had the votes to win.
Sebastian said...
3. Until the day before yesterday, they didn't have to articulate what was commonly assumed
True.
Then again, how can you successfully articulate anything when every word is misconstrued, and every word definition changes on the fly.
Language is how we communicate. When you stifle and/or alter the language, chances are your cause is less than noble
Garage: Just pointing out pathetic it is.
As we realize each time you do it. Hilarious
Browndog said:
Then again, how can you successfully articulate anything when every word is misconstrued, and every word definition changes on the fly.
Orwell said:
In a time of universal deceit — telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
Every time the establishment Republican wins, its a Pyrrhic victory.
I'm done with them. When the Republicans won this past November, I felt victories. Then I learned just how hollow that victory was a few short months later.
Don't lecture me on Pyrrhic victories, I've been living through them all my life.
I'm done. Its time for a change. Thanks to Ted Cruz, I'm not ready to leave the Republican Party, like Glenn Beck has. But if we nominate someone like Jeb Bush?
Yeah, I'll be out.
I felt victorious. Ugh.
This is just another stupid post I am compelled to make.
"he knows literally nothing of illegal activities that happened in his office "
Nor does anyone else.
These folks seem to have shit for brains. So far they are 3 for 3. Probably more but 3-3 in the big time national news.
First they were going to go after Chick-Fil-A. That worked out well. The year they did that, CFA passed KFC in sales. KFC with about twice as many stores and open 7 days a week to CFAs 6.
They they tried it with Duck Dynasty. Another backfire, DD had a huge season premiere.
I said at the time that if CFA and DD did not plan this as publicity stunts, they should have.
Now this with the pizza parlor. The pizza parlor whose owners are now $600,000 richer for their troubles.
One of the memes I've long heard is how smart, compared to the rest of the population, gays are.
Going by this kind of thing, it is more like they are DADS.
If your long-term goal is to reassure people that American society can calmly handle both gay marriage, and the resulting disagreement over it, you have had a very bad week. I started this week being more in support of same-sex marriage than I am right now, and it’s all the fault of the Left’s Goon Squad. And the Left should worry a lot about whether or not I’m the only person who has had that reaction.
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John Henry
Now this with the pizza parlor. The pizza parlor whose owners are now $600,000 richer for their troubles.
The owner saying they wouldn't cater a same sex wedding - one of the articles I clicked on (it was a liberal site) admitted that it was a non-issue - one would have to question the "gay credentials" of a couple that would have a catered pizza wedding dinner. I have only attended straight weddings - never had a pizza at a reception dinner.
aw shucks, he's not hokey a bit.
It's easy for all those senators and possible other republican candidates that are no longer running anything say they support religious whatever.
They don't have to deal with corporations in the state threatening them.
No more senator presidents please.
Garage complaining about talking points.
Jeez, this idiot has no insight whatsoever.
Althouse's new favorite son bumper sticker slogan:
"What would Scott Walker do?"...
"Now this with the pizza parlor. The pizza parlor whose owners are now $600,000 richer for their troubles. "
its now up to 850,000 dollars. Thanks gays!
The pizza parlor people will have the IRS after them now. It's a coordinated attack.
titus: "They don't have to deal with corporations in the state threatening them"
LOL
Yeah, the State of Indiana is "threatening" corporations!
Thanks for your....."insight" Titus.
Just think, if the Pizza Parlor owners would just convert to Islam every single leftist complaint against them would magically melt away.
Instantly.
The boycott is in full effect.
* Corporations are leaving or not expanding to Indiana.
* Many governors have issues state-funded travel bans
* Apple has weighed in. Their word is god.
Basically Indiana, you're royally fucked up the ass. Nothing you do will help at this point. You might want to prostrate yourselves to America and BEG forgiveness.
Alex: "You might want to prostrate yourselves to America and BEG forgiveness"
Would you like for them to face Mecca when they do?
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