No. He did not. People are focusing on Obama's interplay with a man who said "Don't touch my girlfriend" as Obama was voting in Chicago, demonstrating how to vote.
But let's talk about the woman. Obama orders her to kiss him: "You're gonna kiss me. Give him something to talk about. Now, he's really jealous." As you see in the video, he makes that declarative statement and immediately grabs her and kisses and hugs her.
Why is that acceptable? He's using her in an effort to regain dignity and to humiliate the man who humiliated him. It might all be dismissed as play humiliation and play counter-humiliation. But the woman's body was used as an object of that play, a means of communication between men.
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237 comments:
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These are very important questions to ask, because by the standards now imposed by neo-Victorians who dare call themselves "feminist", this was sexual assault, and Ms. Cooper is now one of the 20% of women who are sexual assault victims. Either condemn the president for doing this, or admit that your standard is idiotic.
I'm sure they'll go after him with the same gusto they did for Bill Clinton. The difference here is Clinton was a bona fide sexual predator, and Obama just did something harmless.
Not to mention he had to show a photo ID.
As much as I don't like the Yes means yes laws, they do not require verbal consent, only affirmative consent. Actions that indicate consent count.
Of course actions can be ambiguous, but such ambiguity can be smoothed over by a lack of due process.
Ha Ha, I thought it was pretty funny.
Then again, she may wait 3 months and sue the president. You can change your mind about what happened nowadays. But I don't think you can sue the president, can you?
If this was done in the way the post describes, I would crush any man that did this to my wife.
And how stupid and pathetic does a president have to be to do this sort of thing? The pettiness and complete insecurity he must feel.
The obvious war on women crap aside. If a normal person did this on the outside that's assault if she was in any way hesitant.
I can only register disbelief at this point.
According to the Dept of Education's interpretation of Title IX, that's known as sexual assault.
Confirmed evidence the Obama and Clinton are/were sexual predators.
Obama's mental state needs continual narcissistic supply. The best supply are trophies like his Nobel Prize. This dude only wanted to protect his wife, so King Obama stole her from him to be another trophy.
Reality is more interesting than than fiction.
The woman's boyfriend warned the president not to touch his girlfriend. Perhaps he should have defended her honor and slugged the president. I'm sure the neo-Victorian feminists would have applauded.
If this was done in the way the post describes, I would crush any man that did this to my wife.
It's clearly all joking/in good fun on the video. It was just a cheek kiss.
Anyway, Obama sounds like such a nerd/old guy in these kinds of exchanges.
Oh yeah - the woman was so bothered.
Jesus, Ann, will you stop it,...
Oops. My mistake she was not his wife. She was a friend. I am sure Obama would have respected a marriage covenant
Sheesh, Althouse is now Amanda Marcotte.
Let's take all of the fun between men and women out. The playfulness, the joy of each others company.
Equality uber alles.
Brave New World here we come.
Wonderful. Before long, politicians who kiss babies will be accused of pedophilia.
"It's clearly all joking/in good fun on the video. It was just a cheek kiss."
I didn't see the video, but the article certainly makes it seem more joking and harmless than the sort of thing that would make anyone but a nut actually try to slug the president.
This sort of thing would normally elicit no reaction at all--just a politician being playful on the stump with a supporter, more awkward than offensive, and not reaching Bill Clinton's "one-grope" policy. But the neo-Victorians have taken things a step further with "only explicit yes means yes" and this sort of exchange is exactly what they should be called on to address.
“Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules.”
Long ago, men dueled with guns, swords, or knives. Women have been weaponized in the last decade and are among the most deadly weapons out there. It is only natural that men in a fight should reach for the nearest woman.
"Sheesh, Althouse is now Amanda Marcotte."
I read Althouse's comments to be more mocking towards the "only yes means yes" standard than to seriously consider Obama to have assaulted this woman.
It would be interesting to see how Amanda Marcotte reacts to this--she does support the "yes means yes" standard but is also a leftist hack. However, even leftist hacks consider Obama expendable now, so who knows.
Don't means don't.
Droit du seigneur
All of a piece. A couple of weeks ago the local bimbo news reader, telling us about the guy that jumped the white house fence, described it as an intrusion into the presidential palace! The Republic will soon be but a memory.
So the video loaded. I wasn't struck by the actions of the president. A bit prickly and petulant but whatever. By the standards of campus rape culture he is totally a rapist, but I think those standards are crap.
And in this modern era that was incredibly stupid of the president. If he was a normal person she could ruin him with lawsuits.
The thing that got me was the voting booths. They are right next to each other, in plain view of the person next to you. They are in every way set up to allow "coaching" or intimidation. Our booths are giant pull lever deals with a small curtained room. WTF?
I will also note the complaints of State Representative Moynihan that the machine kept changing his votes to the democrats.
http://eagnews.org/chicagoland-voting-machine-casts-candidates-vote-for-his-dem-opponent-2/
Good Lord. He's even an incompetent masher.
Everybody there was playing - just joking around about cock-blocking - and Ann turns it into a stupid white feminist battle:
Give it up, Ann - what you're saying is insane.
Go find white problems to fix:
We got this one,...
Teach Presidents not to sexually assault women---er, that horse was out of the barn with President Harding, Roosevelt, Kennedy, Johnson, Carter (although only in his heart) and Clinton--and now Obama. Note how many Democrats are in the bunch.
As for Obama being "harmless" in this instance. Like everything else he does, he did this in a half fast manner.
Some odd commenters this morning. Prof. Althouse was clearly using this example to help force the President to be held accountable to the same standards being advocated by the new "feminists" behind the Title IX push in higher education. That crowd does everything they can to avoid looking at the real-world implications of the policies they espouse, so when there is a very public example that can be used to show how ridiculous their proposals are, it's important to take advantage.
This is wild:
Ann won't even touch something with serious implications for whites - like The Whiteness Project - but she'll try to stir up trouble between blacks enjoying each other's company.
White supremacy's tentacles are long,...
It's a pretty straightforward question - is this considered a sexual assault according to today's campus policies?
It's not too much to ask Obama and liberals to follow their own policies. It's only fair.
Skeptical Voter,
"And now Obama."
Look at the evidence used to make this claim - blacks laughing together.
Whites got no ethics what-so-ever,...
"I read Althouse's comments to be more mocking towards the "only yes means yes" standard than to seriously consider Obama to have assaulted this woman."
I thought so too with the first comments but notice the tags? Maybe she is being sarcastic but she's been on this equality men/women kick for awhile.
We can't notice any distinctions between the sexes.
I hope it's sarcasm; otherwise she's gone goofy.
The Crack Emcee said...
Oh yeah - the woman was so bothered.
Jesus, Ann, will you stop it,...
The professor's point is precisely that the woman's approval of the action is irrelevant under the yes means yes standard. If he was a professor at a college that followed that standard, he would be guilty.
I can see that Crack is still trying to gain notoriety and sell his records by pretending to be a victim of white racism.
If anything, the guy just does not give up.
I HEREBY CLAIM THE RIGHT OF PRIMA NOCTIS!
Based on the description in the original post and preceding comments, I believe CNN has now edited the actual kiss out of the video, which tells you something about Ann's observation.
Let's just focus on the fact that he had to show his ID, thereby disenranchi.....hey, wait a minute.
The rest is stupid shit for stupid feminists to focus on.
Jason said...
Didn't end well for the Baron as I recall...
"Yes means Yes" rules are not for someone as exalted as Pres. Obama.
Just as rules did not apply to former Pres. Clinton.
"Yes means Yes" rules exist to punish the poor schmucks who have insufficient status to be immune to them.
If the professor is criticizing President Obama, it is only to the extent that he supports the yes means yes standard.
"Hyphenated American said...
I can see that Crack is still trying to gain notoriety and sell his records by pretending to be a victim of white racism.
If anything, the guy just does not give up.
"
Yes you have to admire his perseverance.
The only not-so-charming part is as Obama walks away from the lady he kissed, giving a "so there" strut to the off-the-screen boyfriend.
The fun part is, CA's new affirmative consent law will be primarily used against minority students. As Crack points out, it'll be a tool that whites use to criminalize socialization they find offensive.
A few people on the left have had the sense to point this out, but for the most part, the Democrats who blacks reflexively vote for (and that's just an objective description when you're talking about 90+% rates) back the law. Once black and other minority students at CA colleges are subjected to racist enforcement measures, though, voting patterns will change!
Right? Right?
Oft evil will shall evil mar. That many times is seen.
He's using her in an effort to regain dignity"
That ship sailed with "I won"
I watched the video. The Professor's description did not match what I saw. I thought the President was likable in the video. It is the first time in a long time I have found him likable.
"The Crack Emcee said...
Oh yeah - the woman was so bothered.
Jesus, Ann, will you stop it,..."
Wow, I'm finally with crack on something. The woman turned her face to receive the kiss on a cheek.
This has to be top 10 in dumbest Althouse posts.
RecChief,
"Yes you have to admire his perseverance."
In the face of white folks who have decided "It's time to panic"
Don't forget that,...
"This has to be top 10 in dumbest Althouse posts."
Unless she was being tongue-in-cheek, I agree.
Perhaps top five.
Every time she writes about the sexes the list gets longer and longer.
You must not notice difference between the sexes. Just can't have that.
PANIC, WHITE PEOPLE!
You were all arguing for it a few days ago - Ann said to and you agreed.
EBOLA! FROM AFRICA!
Now the guy you swear is unpopular is looking pretty popular.
BLACK PEOPLE VOTING!
PANIC, WHITE PEOPLE!
"In the face of white folks who have decided "It's time to panic"
Who is whining about poverty and inequality? And it's not the white people rioting...
Anyway, Crack, I don't think you are as crazy as you present it here - it's all business for you, nothing personal. But in today's climate, it's probably not a good idea though. Race card is overdrawn, and liberals are unpopular. Your business strategy, to sell yourself as a victim won't work. You are too late to the party, comrade.
Curious George
You and Crack miss the point. There is a new or pending law in California for colleges requiring affirmative assent for sexual contact which is very loosely defined. The "yes means yes" controversy is widely discussed at the moment and is another move by the left to control your behavior, or at least the behavior of college students. The professor is making a bit of a sly joke at our President who could potentially be liable for expulsion from one of those California colleges if the woman he kissed decided, two years from now, that she was assaulted by him.
Lame is missing the point.
BLACKS VOTING IN THE MID TERMS!
IT'S TIME TO PANIC!
"EBOLA! FROM AFRICA!"
News from Crack:
Ebola was actually born in Europe, invented by evil white people.
And Obama is the most popular president of all times.
Crack:
Black people aren't going to be allowed to vote in this election. Too close. So if you are attempting to vote while black you might just be asked to identify yourself and that, dude, would be the end of that. Because Invisible Man. Because Scott Walker. Because photography
Hyphenated American,
"And it's not the white people rioting..."
HOW CLUELESS ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO INSIST ON BEING?
Really - I can't lose when y'all's this ignorant,...
Michael,
"Black people aren't going to be allowed to vote in this election."
You act like blacks have ever let what whites want stop us.
I'll give this to you:
Ignoring history has definitely bred a lot of false confidence in you.
Unfortunately, false hope is the worst kind,...
"Hyphenated American said...
"Anyway, Crack, I don't think you are as crazy as you present it here - it's all business for you, nothing personal."
Yeah, I'd have to agree with you on that. And your assesment that came after.
Crack, give up your business project. It's not working. Every person with IQ above room temperature knows you are wrong.
"Mike" manipulated the President into kissing his ugly girlfriend. Probably the highlight of her life. How excited was she? Who would be the beneficiary of her excitement?
Well played Mikey.
The only not-so-charming part is as Obama walks away from the lady he kissed, giving a "so there" strut to the off-the-screen boyfriend.
I didn't see that part. I didn't actually see the boyfriend at all, but the girlfriend was laughing.
The president, what's his name, Barry? Barry is such a fool...
RecChief,
"Anyway, Crack, I don't think you are as crazy as you present it here - it's all business for you, nothing personal."
"Yeah, I'd have to agree with you on that. And your assesment that came after."
Yep - this entire thread is just one plea for money after another. I'm sure you'll highlight each one for the rest of us.
Also all those links to my blog y'all insist I make - also without evidence.
Just white delusion on parade.
I look forward to the day when this is all over and I can highlight what's said on this blog - and who said it - for the world,...
"Ignoring history has definitely bred a lot of false confidence in you."
Crack, you are ignoring the fact that the market for self-proclaimed victims of white racism in USA is shrinking. Too much supply, too little demand. The ship has sailed, you need to earn your living now.
Even liberal comedians concede that the race card is overdrawn.
"Yep - this entire thread is just one plea for money after another. I'm sure you'll highlight each one for the rest of us.
Also all those links to my blog y'all insist I make - also without evidence."
How else do you plan to sell your music? It's not like anyone is interested. And so, you create a marketing bonanza - look at me, I am the victim of white racism, I am the brave warrior against racism. What you lack in music talent, you are trying to compensate with victimhood. Is it working? Nope.
"I look forward to the day when this is all over and I can highlight what's said on this blog - and who said it - for the world,..."
You mean, when you sold a million records and people are listening to you?
This all reminds me of the end of slavery so much:
Whites couldn't grasp what was happening, as it was happening, at all.
It was just the men talking, showing bluster, and ignorance, while blacks paraded around and white women went mad.
Then came the KKK and all the rest, to show how much "freedom for all" meant to whites.
Enjoy yourselves, y'all:
I know you and history too well to care what you say,...
curious that Althouse lets that nitwit Crack overrun the comments. Maybe he's worth a read, but I just skip his comments.
And Hyphentated American:
Why don't you come back when you're the real thing?
"Hyphenated American said...
Crack, give up your business project. It's not working. Every person with IQ above room temperature knows you are wrong.
"
You have to admit that it's entertaining. Especially when Althouse throws some shit against the wall that doesn't stick. Comments down? Crack shows up to generate comments, whether they are germaine to the topic of the post or not. It allows Althouse to ignore things like the Lesbian Mayor of Houston pushing to have pastors sermons subpeonaed or the wedding chapel in Idaho being forced to perform gay weddings. Or instances of voting irregularities in Arizona and Wisconsin. All while we bicker with Crack, who cranks out assertions like a drunken frat boy shouting at a pep rally.
If only Althouse would use a sarcasm tag.
"This all reminds me of the end of slavery so much:"
Yes, you been freed from slavery again. And now, how about all white people buy your records....
BTW, I noticed that when I talked history, you did not want to reply to me. But when I talked about your records, hey, you are all attention.
1.Anyway, who freed the slaves? 2. And who turned your ancestors into slaves?
1. Whites.
2.African Blacks
So this is what it has to come down to; a president held in such low esteem that some joker can disrespect a president when standing next to him and the president making such a lame comeback?
Eric said...
curious that Althouse lets that nitwit Crack overrun the comments. Maybe he's worth a read, but I just skip his comments."
Dude, Crack's Blog is on her blog roll.
"Why don't you come back when you're the real thing?"
I am the real thing - I don't need to pretend I am a victim to earn money. I don't ask for a handout. In short, I am not like you.
Why don't you come back when you are the real thing?
P.S. you did not want to talk to me when I argued history with you. But how quickly you responded when I talked about your business plan. It hit the mark, didn't it? Come on, smile, I know what you are doing.
Are all the Democrat Presidents rapists or what?
Crack
"You act like blacks have ever let what whites want stop us".
Well, black people were slaves when white people wanted them to be and then were free when white people voted to end slavery. So there are two examples of when black people "let" what whites wanted stop them. You could also add in red-lining, lynchings, real estate covenants, segregated schools, separate drinking fountains, restaurants, hotels, schools and zoos. You could add a dash of lending discrimination. Quite a few other things that I learned about on the Althouse Blog from a genius music man turned blogger turned lecturer on race and reparations.
He's electioneering. Arrest him.
The man would have done better to draw a red line and dare Obama to cross it.
I swear that feminists are at the bottom of it creationists who think that a just God created us perfectly equally and that millions of years of evolution never happened.
Obama is terrible awkward around people. When he first arrived to vote, he said something bizarre about the most important office being that of a citizen who votes. This was shortly after a poll worker said, "vote Democrat!" Obama's response was, "I can't say anything about that ..."
It was a strange moment.
With this woman and her boyfriend, Obama was attempting to sound like a brotha. Whenever he does this, I cringe a little. It seems so forced.
With this woman and her boyfriend, Obama was attempting to sound like a brotha. Whenever he does this, I cringe a little. It seems so forced.
At least he didn't pull out his fake southern accent. That's the one that drives me batty.
"This was shortly after a poll worker said, "vote Democrat!""
Is this legal in Illinois? While it's a joke when she says that to this president, does she do it with regular voters?
Crack -
I hate to say it, but you are starting to sound like the member of a cult.
The "yes means yes" tag is the tease, but Althouse's real focus and concern is at the end of the post.
Hypenated sez: Too much supply, too little demand.
Lady Prof and the CrackBaitBiters give him all the demand he needs.
Or instances of voting irregularities in Arizona and Wisconsin.
And Chicago.
RecChief sez: Dude, Crack's Blog is on her blog roll.
I repeat myself, the soft bigotry of low expectations.
After that description, I expected a much different video.
I do like this as an example of the absurdity of the overwrought narrative and requirements put forth by the Sex Police.
Obama was voting in Chicago, demonstrating how to vote.
How many times in all?
Or instances of voting irregularities in Arizona and Wisconsin.
Not sure about AZ, but there has been at least one arrest in Wisconsin for voter fraud.
http://www.jsonline.com/news/crime/shorewood-man-charged-with-13-counts-of-voter-fraud-b99297733z1-264322221.html
Tho, the prosecutor in that case is also on the John Doe investigation, so it is probably just a witch hunt.
"And Chicago."
hmm. There was a big push from Democrats to get touch screen voting machines into our state. My precinct still uses paper ballots with optical readers. They look like they were built in the '70s, and I don't see any way they could be tampered with.
Need an Althouse Poll:
What are the odds that Aia got smacked around by Mike after they left the polling place?
Yeah, you have to admire Crack-O-Matic for staying on message.
Reminds me of Alison Bumblergan Grimes refusing to say who received her vote. Stay on message, no matter foolish you look.
Second poll:
What are the odds Obama kisses the woman after the boyfriend's warning if his security detail is not there?
Here is what I was referring to in Arizona.
This is what I was referring to in Wisconsin
Robert D. Monroe, 50, used addresses in Shorewood, Milwaukee and Indiana, according to the complaint, and cast some votes in the names of his son and his girlfriend's son.
According to the complaint:
Monroe cast two ballots in the April 2011 Supreme Court election, two in the August 2011 Alberta Darling recall election, five in the Scott Walker-Tom Barrett recall, one illegal ballot in an August 2012 primary, and two ballots in the November 2012 presidential election.
---
The complaint indicates the investigation started in Waukesha County as an inquiry into possible double voting by Monroe's son, who lives in Waukesha. But the son denied any knowledge of requesting an absentee ballot from his father's Shorewood address, and the investigation shifted back to Milwaukee County.
So, the leftists who insist showing ID to vote won't stop voter fraud are correct, so we should go after the absentee voting next.
madisonfella: "Are all the Democrat Presidents rapists or what?"
If they are males, then the leftists/feminists say they are.
And who are we to argue with the august opinions of these leftists?
It is very important to crack and madisonfella that obama not be held to the standards that the left attempts to impose on everyone else.
Fen's Law.
Michael,
"Well, black people were imagined to be slaves when white people wanted them to be,..."
FIFY
You were ALWAYS enslavers, though.
Pitiful things,...
Add Schaumburg il to voting irregularities in the dems favor.
BarrySanders20 said...
Need an Althouse Poll:
What are the odds that Aia got smacked around by Mike after they left the polling place?
Zero. They had sex in the car on the way home.
Wait, if you mean smacking into her booty, then maybe yes.
I wonder who we learned it from?
So we dropped humanitarian aid and weapons to ISIS?
Peachy.
Much to do about nothing. I thought the president showed a sense of humor was charming to the young lady.
Now let's get back to the business of repealing Obamacare.
Did the media hold Pres. Clinton to the same standrds they promoted for the rest of us vis a vis sexual harrassment (or office romance, or relationships based on power differentials, or any damn other thing)? If not why would anyone expect them to hold Pres. Obama to the standard they promote as valid for sexual assualt (affirmative assent)? Hell, at lesat Califorina's standard is riduclous on its face--most of the stuff Clinton did (including repeatedly lying) was at least commonly seen as a breaking valid moral or legal rules. The key, it seems, is to have that D after your name.
Fen's law.
Some of the Men (I think) Commenters have said, "It was just a cheek kiss" -- I agree with Ann, I dont like ANYONE touching me without my consent and a CHEEK KISS IS A HUGE DEAL -- I would have pulled away and told him to keep his hands to himself. NO MATTER WHO HE IS. It was lecherous.
Seeing Red said...
I wonder who we learned it from?"
I don't care which party does it, it should earn a Treason charge.
Droit du Seigneur.
Of course she can't refuse.
Some of the Men (I think) Commenters have said, "It was just a cheek kiss" -- I agree with Ann, I dont like ANYONE touching me without my consent and a CHEEK KISS IS A HUGE DEAL
I might have said that and I'm not a man. I was mostly reacting to her response to it.
I am from the south and we hug but don't cheek kiss. It took some getting used to the first few times someone did it, but not a 'huge' deal. JMO.
Crack:
So if blacks weren't actually enslaved why would reparations be in order?
My opinion? This is harmless.
But let's apply the "yes means yes" progressive standard to this situation.
Was she smiling and happy? It sure appeared that way. But on the inside she was crying. Just trying to hold up under all the media and spotlight pressure to be a good trooper. She will now need years of counseling to get past this.
Was that "Cousin Pookie" or "RayRay"?
Michael,
"Well, black people were slaves when white people wanted them to be,..."
I love how whites talk - all euphemisms. Let's translate:
Whites used guns, and beatings, rapings, mutilation, castration (white men have still never explained their motivation for THAT one for some reason) overt and covert theft - and anything else they could think of - and they still ended up calling us "lazy" because we just wouldn't be slaves, as "white people wanted them to be," to do the work they would've done themselves if they were truly the people they claim, but (just like the French) lie to themselves they are.
And the best part is - THEY'RE STILL PROUD OF IT!
As someone wrote a few days ago:
The streak continues! White people remain the worst! Unbeaten and never tied!
Be happy, y'all:
Hitler, Stalin, even the leaders of South Africa have nothing on American whites!
You haven't even made a better place for your kids to live in - they're going to be poor and everyone's going to harass them for your hubris - even other whites!
Go on - ride around with your "I'm spending my kid's (stolen) inheritance!" bumper stickers on your car, as you head to another boring location with nobody but other pale skins, singing CW tunes to each other for nostalgia.
I'd replace them with swastikas, but that's just me,...
Michael,
"So if blacks weren't actually enslaved why would reparations be in order?"
Too boneheaded for an answer,...
jacksonjay,
"Was that "Cousin Pookie" or "RayRay"?"
Was that racism or simple assholery?
Don't be a douchebag, JJ,...
What you normally see in personality defects such as cracks is that the more his personal situation degrades or becomes less satisfying the more grandiose his pronouncements/assertions will become.
It's science.
But,but, what about her booty? Did God bless her with a big luscious ethnic booty, or was she cursed with a out of style "white girl" booty?
That's important...
Don't forget that,...
Crack
This was written a couple of thousand years ago:
For their unhappy sloth fosters envy, and, because they could not succeed themselves they wish everyone else to be ruined; then from this aversion to the progress of others and despair of their own their mind becomes incensed against fortune and complains of the times and retreats into corners and broods….
Seneca "On Tranquility of Mind"
Enjoy
Drago,
"What you normally see in personality defects such as cracks is that the more his personal situation degrades or becomes less satisfying the more grandiose his pronouncements/assertions will become.
It's science."
No - it's another unsourced white assumption provided as fact. I just pointed out that Michael does the same thing.
Neither of you knows what my personal situation is - I could be lying about the whole thing. You have no idea. But you make it up anyway and tell others it's the truth.
That's why you suck Drudge's dick so hard - he's the expert:
IT'S TIME TO PANIC, WHITE PEOPLE!
THAT, my friend, is what's called a personal defect,...
"Some of the Men (I think) Commenters have said, "It was just a cheek kiss" -- I agree with Ann, I dont like ANYONE touching me without my consent and a CHEEK KISS IS A HUGE DEAL -- I would have pulled away and told him to keep his hands to himself. NO MATTER WHO HE IS. It was lecherous."
I'm a man, and would not be comfortable getting a cheek kiss from a stranger, male or female. It's an inappropriate crossing of boundaries.
However, the point we're making is that while this sort of thing is (often) unwanted and in those cases inappropriate, the fact that relatively minor things like this get lumped together in the "sexual assault" statistics that Obama's own Justice Department is throwing around. An unwanted cheek kiss may be uncomfortable or even offensive, but to put it in the same category as rape or even groping of private parts is absurd.
We wouldn't be poking fun at Obama for this if it weren't for the fact that he and his administration are normally so willing to lump these minor infractions in with real crimes.
Michael,
"Because they could not succeed themselves"
Black president.
Black attorney general.
Jay-Z and Beyonce' are musical royalty.
No slavery.
No voting restrictions (until you try to think of new ones)
No Jim Crow.
And reparations on the docket.
Yeah - we're losing.
It's too bad whites have never thought long-term, except when declaring "White Supremacy Forever!"
They couldn't see the loss coming,...
Crack (the sexually repressed): "That's why you suck Drudge's dick so hard - he's the expert."
That's some colorful imagery you're employing there. And one you employ quite frequently.
What additional information does it provide us regarding you inner thoughts?
What is it that you haven't had the courage yet to admit to yourself?
I hope you come to terms with these latent thoughts soon, for your own mental health.
This was a nonsexual or asesuxal kiss. They weren't out on a date.
Trying to jam or force this incident into the context of sexual consent laws or regulations is silly.
More silly than the consent regulations themselves.
"I see your silly and raise you two sillies."
Oh - and by the way - if you think my condition, or any other black's, is something to tease us about, remember:
We know what whites will do to us, and have always done, and wish/hope/desire we suffer more.
Putting us down - or trying to - is the only way you can feel good about yourselves.
That's what I like about The Whiteness Project - ask whites what being white means to them and what do they do?
They impulsively start talking about blacks - just like a bunch of racist parrots.
Whites fool no one. You're not nice people. You have no morals worth respecting. Your laws are lies. You have blood all over you.
That's why, when Ann posts a nice scenic view, I tell her it ain't - because none of the shit y'all imagine to be pretty can cover for the crimes you've committed.
All you've created - from the land you stole to the tech empire you built with slavery's inheritance - is Hell.
And you're going to lose that, too,...
If the woman was fine with it, whatever. I can't watch the video, so I can't tell for myself.
All I know is if I walked up to someone and demanded a kiss, it would not be ha-ha funny. It would be rape culture.
Drago,
"Crack (the sexually repressed)"
Like the whites who regularly cut off black's dicks during lynchings?
Man, y'all are SCREWED UP!
SMGalbraith said...
Trying to jam or force this incident into the context of sexual consent laws or regulations is silly.
More silly than the consent regulations themselves.
Amen.
It's strange how Crack impulsively keeps dredging up visions of Matt Drudge's penis and what other men might/should/could do with it.
Or maybe it's not really strange at all.
It is very important to crack and madisonfella that obama not be held to the standards that the left attempts to impose on everyone else.
WTF are you talking about?! I've condemned Obama while you have been silent about it. The asshole forced himself on that woman and the only reason he didn't get socked in the jaw is because he is the president. Granted it wasn't as slimy as what Clinton did, but it still demonstrates that this president also embraces the rape culture.
Seriously, do you even read what is said or do you only respond to who says it?
Nef's Law: "Dumbshit assholes will scold you for things you never said nor believe"
Pity it would be assaulting the President to SLUG THE BASTARD.
Now would either Bush do this? Would Reagan do this? Would Jimmy Carter have done this?
Yet alot of people voted for this 'affirmative action' president... TWICE.
madisonfella: "Nef's Law: "Dumbshit assholes will scold you for things you never said nor believe"
Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark on Crack.
Which is racist.
Double ouch.
It tickles me:
400 years of dishing out the worst behavior known to man - against a people who has NEVER done a thing to you - and, to this day, whites are still trying to save face. Still trying to deny it happened. Still trying to deny they're culpable. Still trying to deny reality - as they continue acting like the biggest douchebags on the planet.
And they do it for no one but other whites - because they can't convince anyone else!
Go down with the U.S.S. Racism, people - your captain, Adolf Hitler, had already jumped ship but you missed it, being too hard at work hanging niggers at the same time.
ROTFLMAO!!!
You should fire up some torches and Nazi-march around so we can really laugh at you.
You do know I'm laughing at you, don't you?
I only stop when you kill somebody else,...
I'm a man, and would not be comfortable getting a cheek kiss from a stranger, male or female. It's an inappropriate crossing of boundaries.
I don't think it's inappropriate, it's just strongly cultural. Where I am from, we don't do that. So I find it weird. But my friends in college from NY all did that, so I got a lot of random cheek kisses from people's dad and it wasn't a big deal. It certainly wasn't any more lecherous than a handshake or a hug to me. YMMV.
"Like the whites who regularly cut off black's dicks during lynchings?"
How many did you cut off crack? Or do you just watch the gay porn on the Internet?
madisonfella: "I've condemned Obama while you have been silent about it."
It's racist for whites to criticize obama (the entire left "explained" for about 7 years).
Oberlin College, 2006.
Obama: "Before I leave you weeping and crying, Ms. Dunham, I want you to know that you can report this to the police, but you'll get nowhere. You don't know who I am behind this Richard Nixon mask, but I am with the campus Republicans, and we have friends. Very powerful friends, named "Koch" look up the name on that internet thing. You mess with me, you mess with the Koch brothers. Remember that, Lena. Campus Republicans and the Koch brothers are responsible for what I did to you."
Crack: "Go down with the U.S.S. Racism..."
Commanding Officer: Barack Obama.
Yeoman Purser: Crack Emcee.
Bartender: Ted Lange.
Ok it looks like Crack has gone to full-on insane. It really is time for the rubber room.
"if you think my condition, or any other black's, is something to tease us about, "
Oh, I think you have a condition, but I don't think all other black americans have it.
"The Racism Boat
Soon will be making another run,
The Racism Boat
Promises something for everyone.
And Race,
Won't hurt anymore
It's a reparations bill
On a friendly shore!
It's Race.....
Come on aboard it's Race!"
400 years of dishing out the worst behavior known to man
Damn, we were down to 250-something years just a few posts ago. Of course, young New Zeland women are "white" in the context of US black & white relations, so maybe consistency (or accuracy) isn't something I should expect here.
I was pretty spry those first 250 years I was oppressing blacks, but I have really slowed down in my old age.
Seriously folks. The video thing was all in fun and lighthearted. When the boyfriend gets tired of his lady telling the story to everybody, it's gonna be a problem.
It;s a black thing........
speaking of crazy leftists, Katrina Van den Heuvel wrote this today:
"Vote with a vengeance on Nov. 4."
vengeance? if I didn't know better, I'd think that was very divisive.
"I don't think it's inappropriate, it's just strongly cultural. Where I am from, we don't do that. So I find it weird. But my friends in college from NY all did that, so I got a lot of random cheek kisses from people's dad and it wasn't a big deal. It certainly wasn't any more lecherous than a handshake or a hug to me."
It depends on context--from a close friend or a relative, a cheek kiss is really no different from a hug or handshake. But from a total stranger, it crosses a boundary. Not in the "call the cops" sort of way, or the "pistols at dawn" way that some commenters are suggesting, but just not done with people you don't know.
Of course, the context of Obama's kiss is probably different from that of a total stranger--traditionally, politicians kissed babies all the time, sort of as good luck or something, and of course with media and Secret Service around it doesn't seem the same as a Clintonesque bit of ribaldry. So it's really not a big deal here, though a bit of mocking of the "yes means yes" police is in order for this one.
Attaching a racial angle to Obama's interactions is BS. Attaching a disrespect for the woman to it is BS.
What Obama did was a normal gesture of superiority over the man who had claimed to have an exclusive relationship with the woman.
That's Obama in a nutshell. Remember his Starbucks salute to the USMC that exposed his l distainful attitude towards all Americans under his Emminent Reign.
The President of the United States calls an American "a fool" and does so in a voting place while flirting with his girlfriend.
What a trashy person.
Also saw a quote from him this morning in which he jokingly (?) admits to leaving unpaid bills in Chicago when he left for the White House.
And there's the photo of him reaching over the sneeze guard at a salad bar.
All of a piece.
If the woman really didn't want to be kissed, there's always a civil claim for battery as a remedy. Does everything have to be criminalized? President Clinton did us all the favor of having the Supreme Court hold 9-0 that the President of the United States is not immune from civil action outside the scope of his duties as President.
What really saddens me about the Obama presidency is the blind unwavering support in the face of his lack of leadership. If racism is systemic, and I don't believe it is, but if it is, that blind defense of Obama will make it that much harder for the next black man or woman who comes along to be taken seriously as one who could be president. And I'm not talking about Ben Carson or Allen West, or any other current GOPer. I'm talking about the ones we haven't even met yet. By not calling out Obama for being the poor leader that he is, you've doomed the next and the next and the next. Good going, party of diversity. maybe that was the idea all along.
This was shortly after a poll worker said, "vote Democrat!" Obama's response was, "I can't say anything about that ..."
Find it interesting that this is almost ok in Chicago. Instapundit today linked to a story about a Republican candidate trying to vote for himself in Chicago, and the voting machine kept changing his Rep votes to Dem votes. Maybe it is purely coincidental, but this was Chicago, home of one of the more notorious Dem party machines.
"Vote with a vengeance on Nov. 4"
Imagine hating the GOP so much that you think that they could do worse than the democrats. The only people who have done well under Obama are the 1% and the privileged class of federal government employees. Except for DC the country looks like its 1936.
Everything the Left hates Bush and the GOP for, other than reducing taxes for all tax payers, was done with the Democrats holding his hand. Obama and the D's did it all on their own.
There won't be another black president. No black contender in 2016, and by 2020 the blacks will have been completely and utterly replaced by Hispanics as the favored minority.
Of course, one is curious to know why it's necessary to push so hard for a member of race X to rule over a nation of majority Y. Why is nobody asking when CCP will be headed by a Turk? When will Korea elect its first Frenchman? India, a Brazilian; Brazil, a Swede?
As usual, multicultural democracy and over-representation in leadership by minorities is only expected in white, western world.
And even then, it's racist.
"This was a nonsexual or asesuxal kiss. They weren't out on a date.
Trying to jam or force this incident into the context of sexual consent laws or regulations is silly."
Oh. OK. The next college boy who gets expelled for a kiss should have your number. I'm sure you would be happy to help with money, support, an amicus brief.
Oh. OK. The next college boy who gets expelled for a kiss should have your number.
Has that ever actually happened (without other, creepier or made up circumstances)?
Cracked sez:
Was that racism or simple assholery?
Don't be a douchebag, JJ,...
Cracked you should pay attention to President Swaggy. Cousin Pookie and RayRay are Obama assholery, not JJ assholery. I am plenty capable of assholery, but blame this on Swaggy. You are way too carried away with yourself. I blame the Lady Prof!
http://www.usatoday.com/story/theoval/2014/10/20/obama-cousin-pookie-congressional-elections/17603991/
RecChief,
"What really saddens me about the Obama presidency is the blind unwavering support in the face of his lack of doing anything white racists want."
It just doesn't make any sense,...
Alexander,
"There won't be another black president. No black contender in 2016, and by 2020 the blacks will have been completely and utterly replaced by Hispanics as the favored minority."
There's a reason there's no white prophets,...
jacksonjay,
"I am plenty capable of assholery, but blame this on Swaggy."
No - you're the douchebag.
Everything's different when whites say it,...
"Oh. OK. The next college boy who gets expelled for a kiss should have your number. I'm sure you would be happy to help with money, support, an amicus brief."
Right, colleges are expelling young males - er, boys - for a kiss like the one Obama gave that woman.
This is exactly what is going on on our campuses.
The best thing about you guys is your determination to be your lousy, racist, selves:
Your opponents can't lose,...
"Has that ever actually happened (without other, creepier or made up circumstances)?"
Not to my knowledge; but you're ruining this make believe world that equates what Obama did to what we're talking about on our campuses.
And yet, Cracked keeps coming back for more racist abuse!
Crack:
The Seneca quote was not aimed at the successful. It was aimed at those who have failed and blame their failure on the fates or the gods or something that happened 400 years ago. The whiners, complainers. What we would call losers.
JayZ and Beyonce are not exactly Beethoven and Chopin. In fifty years they will be down the memory hole, maybe seventy five.
The Whiteness Project, by the way, was the idea of a white guy. He may be working on the Blackness Project even now. Either way, pretty predictable and pretty boring.
The Crack Emcee said...
RecChief,
"What really saddens me about the Obama presidency is the blind unwavering support in the face of his lack of doing anything white racists want."
It just doesn't make any sense,...
If you are going to put quotes around it, actually quote me.
My comment was a critique of Obama and his followers, but mostly his followers. Your mendacious and half hearted response tells me that you know what I said is true. If you can't argue my point without changing it, argue with someone else.
If the kiss was nonsexual or asexual, then Obama's joke about making the boyfriend jealous makes no sense whatsoever.
Jealous in a Platonic friendship sense?
You're going to win?
YOU CAN'T EVEN GET ONE BLACK GUY KICKED OFF A BLOG!
You've been trying for seven years! In that same time, I've seen a black president elected twice and all the rest, as you scream nothing's happening.
I would've thought the ebola nonsense, you just tried to portray as a scare, would've shown you how little power you have.
IT'S TIME TO PANIC!!!!!! ROTFLMAO!!!!
If you lose the midterms I'm gonna roll over you like a shit storm!
Pray, white people, pray.
Shit storms be nas-tay,...
There's a reason there's no white prophets,...
I told my coworker during the 2008 primary that there would be a black man elected president before a woman. Does that count?
This blog is starting to get unreadable. Good thing there are thousands more.
Is this legal in Illinois? While it's a joke when she says that to this president, does she do it with regular voters?
No. But good luck getting any of the laws enforced against Democrats.
In my old Chicago precinct, I had to vote with a provisional ballot in all 6 Federal elections. My voting status was challenged every single time. I was a registered Republican at the time.
Standing in line for provisional ballots was where you would meet the other registered Republicans. Literally, every single one of them had their voting status challenged by a secret objector. The objections are secret. Anyone can object to your legal voting status.
"There's a reason there's no white prophets,..."
I am Jewish - does it mean I am not white? Does it mean all Jews are no longer white?
Crack is cracking up.
Shanna said...
I told my coworker during the 2008 primary that there would be a black man elected president before a woman. Does that count?
Not if you had been reading Nate Silver's columns beforehand.
Not if you had been reading Nate Silver's columns beforehand.
I feel pretty certain I wasn't.
As I pointed out, issues with jim crow notwithstanding, black men had the legal right to vote and held office in congress before women too.
Perhaps, she gave Ebola to him.
Cracked:
Democrats patronize Blacks for votes and I'm the douche. OK? Obama says we can't win with Cousin Pookie sittin on the couch watchin football. That is insulting and racist! Michelle calls Blacks "nuckleheads" for not voting! Patronizing!
Biden says Obama is clean!
Harry says Obama doesn't speak Negro, unless he wants to!
Harry says C. Thomas is dumb!
Hillary says Ghandi ran a gas station!
Certain Whitespeak is racist and certain Whitespeak is NOT racist. Crack is the Whitespeak judge! Crack is Whack!
Imagine the things that Biden does to women that aren't reported.
YOU CAN'T EVEN GET ONE BLACK GUY KICKED OFF A BLOG!
White lady guilt! It is really not very complicated.
"Obama orders her to kiss him"
Ms. Cooper should have turned to Obama and belted out:
I'm young and I love to be young
I'm free and I love to be free
To live my life the way I want
To say and do whatever I please
And don't tell me what to do
Oh, don't tell me what to say
And please, when I [stand next to] you
Don't put me on display
"As usual, multicultural democracy and over-representation in leadership by minorities is only expected in white, western world."
Only to the extent that it serves the interests of in-group whites. There's a very good reason Black Democrat politicians are incompetent and/or corrupt.
Shanna,
"I told my coworker during the 2008 primary that there would be a black man elected president before a woman. Does that count?"
No, almost everybody saw that,...
tim in vermont,
"This blog is starting to get unreadable. Good thing there are thousands more."
Which, unfortunately, you don't go to because they don't allow racists.
Weird, huh?
Try Hot Air,...
"In my old Chicago precinct, I had to vote with a provisional ballot in all 6 Federal elections. My voting status was challenged every single time. I was a registered Republican at the time."
In 1996, my mother was 98 years old and had lived in her Chicago district for 70 years. She had lived in her building on South Shore Drive for 30 years. She was probably the only Republican in the building and when she went down to vote in '96, she was turned away by a black D poll watcher. They wouldn't even give her a provisional ballot in the building where she lived and where the polling place was.
Needless to add that Jesse Jackson Jr was her Congressman.
jacksonjay,
"And yet, Cracked keeps coming back for more racist abuse!"
Racist abuse? I'm toying with you!
You must have missed one of my many briefs on what's happening here.
I'll grant you, when whites kill blacks, it can get to me. But if you think I come here, daily, because I don't enjoy watching white people spin in their graves, you're fooling yourselves.
I like watching whites spinning in their graves,...
Hyphenated American,
"I am Jewish - does it mean I am not white? Does it mean all Jews are no longer white?
Crack is cracking up."
And you're not an American.
Hyphenated asshole,...
I love the juxtaposition of mine and Crack's avatars. Makes me laugh everytime I see it.
There is a precedent, but it happened at the close of a war. I wonder what Obama is celebrating and will the feminists exempt him from their racket. Will the "boyfriend" meekly submit to the president's mockery. This isn't the first time that Obama has been caught with a wandering eye, but his adulterous intent is clearly progressive a la Clinton.
jacksonjay,
"Cracked:
Democrats patronize Blacks for votes and I'm the douche. OK?"
Yes - you don't get it:
You and your friends are worse than everything you listed - which is why no one will vote with you.
Now, here's the deal - if you think the stuff you listed is bad, and YOU'RE WORSE, then what does that make you?
An Asshole!
You can quote Obama, and Biden, and anyone else you want - as long as it's coming out of YOUR MOUTH , it's racist.
Got it?
Nice talkin' to ya,...
"here's a very good reason Black Democrat politicians are incompetent and/or corrupt."
What's the reason crack? Affirmative action? Victims of low expectations? Or were they voted in by incompetent and/or corrupt voters?
Surely you can give us a enlightened view.
"YOU CAN'T EVEN GET ONE BLACK GUY KICKED OFF A BLOG!"
crack, no we don't want you kicked off the blog. Heck no! You show everyone how some blacks think, and not in a real good light.
jacksonjay,
"White lady guilt! It is really not very complicated."
Another white assumption (how many does that make for whites today?) with no evidence to back it up except for the holiest one you got:
A white person said it.
Sorry, but that worked for George Washington and the cherry tree but we're waaaay past that those days now,...
Shanna said...
As I pointed out, issues with jim crow notwithstanding, black men had the legal right to vote and held office in congress before women too.
The question of why Obama beat Hillary in the primaries and the possible role of sexism is an interesting one. I think Hillary's vote for the Iraq war definitely played a bigger role than any other single factor. There was also a lack of enthusiasm for the Clinton's as a package deal. Bill has worked hard over the last six years to improve his image within the party. Also, Obama is unquestionably a better campaigner than Hillary.
I doubt that sexism played a bigger role that racism in that particular contest. Both had a modest effect that effectively cancelled each other out.
Paul.
You're confusing Crack and I. There are no doubt thousands of black man capable of leadership, vision and great integrity. Needless to say the white people calling the shots in the Democrat Party won't touch those Black men with a ten-foot pole. For obvious reasons. Fools and empty-suits like Obama are much easier to manipulate.
Crack,
You keep coming back, because the white lady feels sorry for you. You are pathetic and she thinks she is doing you a favor. Just like Pookie and RayRay keep votin for the Democrats, when Swaggy can get them off the couch.
Just toying with you!
Tell it to Bill Clinton.
jacksonjay,
"White lady guilt! It is really not very complicated."
This is rich:
Ann and I fight, right in front of you guys, and you still try to insist this is true.
If there can be any greater evidence of your self-delusion, it's the charge this is a white liberal guilt thing. First, because - in case you haven't noticed - Ann and Meade don't do guilt.
That's a white racist thing - which is why they're always screaming they won't feel guilty, and nobody can make them feel guilty, and all the other guilt-related comments they regularly throw out there.
I mean, you claiming Ann feels guilt is just projection of yourselves - she's never mentioned feeling any, just as I've never demanded it, though you guys imagine I am every day - it's just you racists who are always bringing up "guilt" over and over again. And hoping nobody notices, as they repeatedly try to run from documented facts - and as though that were possible.
Your denial of guilt, like your denial of everything racist about you, is merely a "tell" - and one I always welcome.
You guys aren't hard to figure out. You'll spin this way, and you'll spin that, but it's only because racism leaves you nowhere to actually go:
You're like that kid in The Sixth Sense, or the folks in American Horror Story - already dead and don't know it.
I enjoy watching you figuring it out:
Front row seat, this is,...
The Cracker Emcee,
"There's a very good reason Black Democrat politicians are incompetent and/or corrupt."
That's the way the white ladies like it,...(wink)
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