Althouse: I thought only "yes" means yes: Did Obama get true, verbalized consent from that woman before he kissed her?

October 21, 2014

I thought only "yes" means yes: Did Obama get true, verbalized consent from that woman before he kissed her?

No. He did not. People are focusing on Obama's interplay with a man who said "Don't touch my girlfriend" as Obama was voting in Chicago, demonstrating how to vote.

But let's talk about the woman. Obama orders her to kiss him: "You're gonna kiss me. Give him something to talk about. Now, he's really jealous." As you see in the video, he makes that declarative statement and immediately grabs her and kisses and hugs her.

Why is that acceptable? He's using her in an effort to regain dignity and to humiliate the man who humiliated him. It might all be dismissed as play humiliation and play counter-humiliation. But the woman's body was used as an object of that play, a means of communication between men.

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The Crack Emcee said...: Paul,

"crack, no we don't want you kicked off the blog."

We've just been demanding it, almost every day, for kicks,...; 10/21/14, 5:00 PM
Krumhorn said...: Ann has repeatedly made clear her view (wrong, in my opinion) that the recent batch of sexual misconduct laws/rules are scrupulously gender-neutral. If that were the case, she's right to point out that the application of those laws/rules to Dear Leader would not work out well for him.

Probably, the most useful way to view the entire issue is to imagine the tumult if it had been....oh, let's say.....W.

I think the lefties just are satisfied that Obummer didn't go all Chris Brown on the lady. Fortunately, for all his manifold flaws, that's not in his character. And we all know that Moochelle can take him in a scuffle.

- Krumhorn; 10/21/14, 5:01 PM
Hyphenated American said...: "I am Jewish - does it mean I am not white? Does it mean all Jews are no longer white?

Crack is cracking up."

And you're not an American.

Hyphenated asshole,..."

But are you saying that Jews are not white? Cause this is what you said, when you claimed white people can't be prophets.

Also - speaking of "Americans", you openly proclaimed that USA should not close its borders to the people from Ebola-infested countries. Apparently, you care more about West Africa than USA. Why don't you move there? Few white people, most folks look like you, think like you, can create wealth like you. It's paradise.; 10/21/14, 5:03 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: AReasonableMan,

"The question of why Obama beat Hillary in the primaries and the possible role of sexism is an interesting one."

No sexism - this was worked out, long ago, between Susan B. Anthony and Frederick Douglass. White women's beef against (evil) white men simply hasn't been as immediate as black's, so we go first.

Hillary tried to buck the deal and lost - as she should've.

We still have her back.

Just as I've got Ann's,...; 10/21/14, 5:04 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: jacksonjay,

"You keep coming back, because the white lady feels sorry for you."

Evidence. One shred that anything you've said is true. I've been here seven years - the blog even longer - so you've got a LOT to work with:

Put up or shut up.

Or, be a coward like all the rest, and slink away silently with your assumptions between your legs,...; 10/21/14, 5:07 PM
Hyphenated American said...: Crack, one more question....
Do you seriously think that pretending to be a victim of racism would sell records? It's amusing...

As I said, the market for victimhood is shrinking. You missed your time, buddy. You are coming with a new horse carriage design, and people are driving cars.

But I admire your tenacity. Tell me how I, a Russian Jew, benefited from your slavery, and must pay you back. I always love how you make up those stories. They are stupid, but consistent.; 10/21/14, 5:08 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: The Cracker Emcee,

"The white people calling the shots in the Democrat Party won't touch those Black men with a ten-foot pole."

One thing I truly enjoy:

How your extreme partisanship is completely sinking your ambitions, blinding you to reality, and making everything you say beyond irrelevant.

It's one of the most effective weapons we have,...; 10/21/14, 5:10 PM
Hyphenated American said...: "crack, no we don't want you kicked off the blog."

"We've just been demanding it, almost every day, for kicks,..."

Sometimes, when I want adult conversation, yes, I want you to shut up. When I am in the mood to be entertained by a silly clown who thinks he is serious, I read your stuff.

You are like Al Sharpton, but on a budget.; 10/21/14, 5:11 PM
jacksonjay said...: Considered yourself toyed with Cracked! Sounds like I struck a nerve. It is OK.

I would never use the term "igonrant slut" in referring to our hostess. The fact that this insult is left to stand, is a put up!; 10/21/14, 5:13 PM
Meade said...: "Ann and Meade don't do guilt:

Not true. I do guilt frequently. I'm not a Good Person but I do believe in taking personal responsibility.

So you can often find me doing guilt. Until I solve the conflict. Or else at least project it onto some poor hapless scapegoat. Like a "white" person.; 10/21/14, 5:16 PM
traditionalguy said...: To help stop the angst over Crack's revenge on the dumb whites schtick, remember that the mistake has always been the one drop of black blood rule that made life seem easy once, but now is back to bite us.

The skin /hair/ eye colors of Americans we live among is a mixture of various European tribes with West African tribes, and the indigenous Choctaw, Cherokee, Huron, Wyandot, etc, and Asians from Japan, China and the Philippines, plus now Viet Nam.

If the eminent Crack were to get a mitochondrial DNA blood test for his origins, my money would be on his African descent being mixed with 20% Scottish because he is that stubborn, and 40% Chinese because he is that intelligent. (such a mixture would mean Crack is a black man in the same sense as Tiger Woods is a black man.); 10/21/14, 5:20 PM
Hyphenated American said...: "How your extreme partisanship is completely sinking your ambitions, blinding you to reality, and making everything you say beyond irrelevant.

It's one of the most effective weapons we have,..."

That's all you got? Accusations that someone is partisan? And coming from you?

Hilarious.; 10/21/14, 5:20 PM
Meade said...: "Why is that acceptable? He's using her in an effort to regain dignity and to humiliate the man who humiliated him. It might all be dismissed as play humiliation and play counter-humiliation. But the woman's body was used as an object of that play, a means of communication between men."

Teach men and women not to objectify one another.; 10/21/14, 5:26 PM
Michael said...: TraditionalGuy

You are right about the Chinese part because you aren't going to get your money back.

And there is stubborn good and stubborn bad.; 10/21/14, 5:44 PM
Michael K said...: "I doubt that sexism played a bigger role that racism in that particular contest. Both had a modest effect that effectively cancelled each other out."

I think that Obama gave the left a chance to scratch a larger itch and it went for the sorta black guy. Hillary is not a sympathetic character. She is a bitch and contaminated with scandal since Bill was inaugurated and the Travel Office was gutted to be replaced with her relatives.

Maybe that will work with younger voters who don't remember much but I think Fauxcahontas will give her a run with the young and dumb left.; 10/21/14, 6:02 PM
President-Mom-Jeans said...: Is it time to panic?

Are you still homeless? Yes?

Nah, no panic here.

Hope it doesn't get cold tonight, Crackie.; 10/21/14, 6:09 PM
President-Mom-Jeans said...: "You do know I'm laughing at you, don't you?"

Oh no, a homeless bum in the street is laughing at us.; 10/21/14, 6:15 PM
RecChief said...: "The question of why Obama beat Hillary in the primaries and the possible role of sexism is an interesting one. I think Hillary's vote for the Iraq war definitely played a bigger role than any other single factor. There was also a lack of enthusiasm for the Clinton's as a package deal. Bill has worked hard over the last six years to improve his image within the party. Also, Obama is unquestionably a better campaigner than Hillary."

Now that is well reasoned analysis.; 10/21/14, 6:20 PM
RecChief said...: "Teach men and women not to objectify one another."

Like that noted conservative Annie Lennox says?; 10/21/14, 6:25 PM
President-Mom-Jeans said...: Who has four walls and a roof over their head?

Not Crack.

Because racism.; 10/21/14, 6:28 PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...: "How your extreme partisanship is completely sinking your ambitions, blinding you to reality, and making everything you say beyond irrelevant."

That's a great description of how the Democrat Party has exploited the gullibility of the Black man and left him wasted, bereft of a future, and of little further use. Hola, Senor!; 10/21/14, 6:31 PM
Known Unknown said...: The only thing bugging me in the video is the line "brotha trying to embarrass me."

Again, he can do no wrong. It's always the other guy's fault.; 10/21/14, 6:32 PM
Known Unknown said...: If the eminent Crack were to get a mitochondrial DNA blood test for his origins, my money would be on his African descent being mixed with 20% Scottish because he is that stubborn, and 40% Chinese because he is that intelligent. (such a mixture would mean Crack is a black man in the same sense as Tiger Woods is a black man.)

Don't forget the midichlorians. He's part Jedi*, you know.

* - Jedis ... a cult or no?; 10/21/14, 6:36 PM
Lewis Wetzel said...: Not 400 years of racism, but 4,000,000 years of racism. Since some pale, genetic freak of an australopithecus, in what would become Kenya, said 'Screw this place. The people here are stupid and lazy. I am moving to what will one day be called Europe. My descendants will return and loot this place of its natural and human resources.'
Four. Million. Years.; 10/21/14, 7:10 PM
jono39 said...: Tell me, is this not about trying to mobilize the so-called black vote to dilute a Republican asswhipping in November. I am not suggesting this was staged, BUT it is Chicago where the polls are OWNED by the Daleymachine.......; 10/21/14, 7:32 PM
ndspinelli said...: Over 100 comments ALWAYS means Crack be pimpin'.; 10/21/14, 7:34 PM
Kelly said...: I took this post as sarcasm. As for me, I can't stand having my space invaded even if it were the President. My husbands coworker from Puerto Rico (guess it's a cultural thing), tried to kiss my cheek at a Christmas party. I saw it coming and turned my head hoping to avoid all contact and the kiss landed on my ear. I was creeped out for a few minutes afterwards. I'm fine with a handshake. He never did that again, even when we visited him in Puerto Rico.; 10/21/14, 7:47 PM
Mid-Life Lawyer said...: This could have been a fascinating discussion but hijacked once again.; 10/21/14, 8:45 PM
Lewis Wetzel said...: "My husbands coworker from Puerto Rico (guess it's a cultural thing), tried to kiss my cheek at a Christmas party."
If Teddy Roosevelt was still prez they'd be firing up the boilers on our battleships.
In Morris's biography of Teddy, he says that Teddy went to a meeting with the dean of Harvard, an ordained minister, and was late because he had to turn around when he realized that he had forgotten his revolver.
Go Teddy!; 10/21/14, 10:19 PM
Anonymous said...: Holy expletive. Just read all 200+ comments and it seems like TV Pro Wrestling with people hitting each other over the head with folding chairs. Yikes.; 10/21/14, 10:42 PM
Freeman Hunt said...: "We can't cross here."
"Why not?"
"It looks like a good place, but it's full of piranhas."
"How do you know?"
"Samuelson's been tossing chunks of bait in there now and then for quite some time now."
"And?"
"They go nuts."
"Every time?"
"Every time."; 10/21/14, 11:13 PM
cubanbob said...: Drago said...
Crack: "Go down with the U.S.S. Racism..."

Commanding Officer: Barack Obama.

Yeoman Purser: Crack Emcee.

Bartender: Ted Lange."

Leave Ted out of this, he appears to be a good guy.; 10/22/14, 1:04 AM
Rich Rostrom said...: J. Seward Johnson made a giant bronze sculpture of the sailor kissing a nurse on V-E Day. It's been displayed in many locations - currently at the D-Day Memorial in Caen, France.

French feminists denounced it as a celebration of sexual assault.; 10/22/14, 3:17 AM
SGT Ted said...: Ann has hoisted the neo-Victorian left on their own petard with this post.; 10/22/14, 8:06 AM
Michael said...: Samuelson should not toss bait into the piranha filled stream. It is unnatural and stupid and annoys the piranhas. Bad for the environment. Disrupts the natural order of things and ultimately will ruin the life of the stream.; 10/22/14, 8:47 AM
Anonymous said...: I remember a time when Crack was sane and rational and perceptive, and had interesting things to say about topics other than white devilry. Such a pity.; 10/22/14, 9:42 AM
Drago said...: cubanbob: "Leave Ted out of this, he appears to be a good guy."

Unfortunately, bad things often happen to good people.; 10/22/14, 10:15 AM