Althouse: "God instructed me to sell them, they are his properties and I will carry out his instructions."

५ मे, २०१४

"God instructed me to sell them, they are his properties and I will carry out his instructions."

Said Abubakar Shekau, leader of the group that has kidnapped 230 girls from a school in Nigeria.

The name of the group is Boko Haram, which means "Western education is forbidden."

५६ टिप्पण्या:

Drago म्हणाले...: Sounds like it's time for another round of Christian bashing and radical Islamist defense.

I wonder which of our regular lefty posters will be first up?

We could also set up a pool on the over/under on the number of posts by our resident lefties which equate the battle over "free birth control/War on Women!" vs actual war on women.

I'm guessing Crack for the first challenge and then 17 for the over/under.; ५/५/१४, ३:४४ PM
madAsHell म्हणाले...: How in the world did that Boko Harem clown acquire an armored personnel carrier? It looks like a Russian design, but others may known better. If it is operational, then I'm sure it is expensive to operate. Who is funding this clown?

President Goodluck Jonathan, and his first lady Patience Jonathan? They sound like stage names selected by their agent.; ५/५/१४, ४:०१ PM
FullMoon म्हणाले...: So, death penalty, or life in prison for this guy?; ५/५/१४, ४:०२ PM
gspencer म्हणाले...: The great Robert Spencer has it on point,

"Abubakar Shekau gleefully taunts the mothers of the girls he abducted, knowing that what he has done in abducting them has clear Qur’anic sanction: the Qur’an allows a man to have sex with the “captives of the right hand” (4:3), which has traditionally been understood as slave girls. The large number of girls abducted in this case has finally brought some international attention to the Nigerian jihad, but untold numbers of girls have suffered the same fate as these girls throughout Islamic history and in the present day."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/05/nigerian-jihad-leader-i-abducted-your-girls-i-will-sell-them-on-the-market-by-allah; ५/५/१४, ४:०२ PM
bandmeeting म्हणाले...: The shocking thing isn't that some bozo in Nigeria thinks it is OK to sell girls. It is that there are likely people willing to buy them.; ५/५/१४, ४:०५ PM
Jaq म्हणाले...: Didn't they record "Whiter Shade of Pale"?; ५/५/१४, ४:२० PM
dbp म्हणाले...: "God instructed me to sell them, they are his properties and I will carry out his instructions,"

If they are the property of God then Abubakar Shekau is only the agent of God and should therefore receive only a commission. I will leave it as an exercise for the imagination as to how he will get the receipts from the sale up to God.

For that matter: If they are the property of God, then where they not God's property before Abubakar Shekau took them? In effect, he stole the girls from God.

Abubakar Shekau is so going to hell.; ५/५/१४, ४:२७ PM
Richard Dolan म्हणाले...: It is such a strange idea, the notion that God "instructed me to sell them ..." I don't have any interest (or any ability) to parse out whether this is or is not a reasonable interpretation of some Koranic command, or if so, how Islamic scholars reconcile such barbarity with a conception of the divine. But it does highlight something I've often thought about - the line between faith and madness.

To think about it in a less provocative context, imagine the story of Abraham and Isaac on the mountain, with the knife poised above the bound child in preparation for the divinely demanded sacrifice, playing out today. (A contemporary version of that happens every few years in the Bronx, where a parent claims to have heard 'voices' driecting them to do something awful. The NYPost dutifully reports on such things.)

Abraham's story is accepted as a bibilical demonstration of a true believer's obedience to God, even to the point of offering one's most precious possession. In making the recent film about Noah, the film makers try to give a more modern take on the same idea -- where Noah feels himself divinely ordered to kill his two gran-daughters at birth but then cannot carry out the command. The film's narrative suggests that God's real command, misunderstood by Noah, was to give to Noah the duty of choosing whether to exterminate the human race. In its way, that approach seeks to rescue the biblical story, and the conception of God embedded in it, from the homicidal madness that it would otherwise display.

Those are tougher stories to reconcile with a concept of the divine than, say, the Jesus saying telling the young man who seeks perfection to "give what you have to the poor and come follow me." For most people, that's a hard saying to accept and very few follow it. But I don't think that anyone would say that it was a display of clinical madness to do so. Not so with the Abraham/Isaac story or the cruelty and inhumanity on display in this article (assuming for present purposes that the Boko Haram group is treated as sincerely religious in motivation).; ५/५/१४, ४:२८ PM
john म्हणाले...: Selling young kids into marriage doesn't seem to be worth an interdiction. It's not like they are illegally selling oil or something valuable like that.; ५/५/१४, ४:३३ PM
The Drill SGT म्हणाले...: The Muslim War on Women, is you know, an actual war...

rape, murder, slavery, degradation; ५/५/१४, ४:३६ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: We all know what this means. We have to be extra vigilant now to protect the Muslims within our population as haters will lash out at them and make them fear for their innocent lives.

It's just terrible, how awful Christians can be when provoked.; ५/५/१४, ४:४८ PM
David म्हणाले...: War on women. Bush's fault.; ५/५/१४, ४:४९ PM
The Drill SGT म्हणाले...: madAsHell said...
How in the world did that Boko Harem clown acquire an armored personnel carrier? It looks like a Russian design, but others may known better

looks small, even from the front. bout the size of those other SUV's. The double armored windshield looks Warsaw Pact. My guess is that it is a BRDM variant.

"a Scout Car" seating 4, not 11; ५/५/१४, ४:५१ PM
John henry म्हणाले...: Bandmeeting,

Not just shocking that there will be willing sellers and buyers but who those sellers and buyers are.

Here we have a case of blacks capturing and selling other blacks into slavery to other blacks.

It's enough to make Crack's head explode. Everybody knows that only whited buy and sell black slaves.

Right?

Everybody does know that, don't they?

In all seriousness this is a heartbreaking story. As a parent and grandparent, I think the idea of my kids/grandkids being sold into slavery would be harder to take than knowing they had been killed.

My prayers are with the girls.

John Henry; ५/५/१४, ४:५५ PM
Jason म्हणाले...: So THAT'S what they meant by "vestal virgins!"; ५/५/१४, ४:५७ PM
chickelit म्हणाले...: Can't someone get him fired?; ५/५/१४, ४:५९ PM
n.n म्हणाले...: A traditional market. Nothing has changed in over 1000 years.

Oh, well. Some people still argue that human life is merely a commodity, interchangeable and disposable. This lunatic shares an ideology with hundreds of millions of people, many who live in first-world nations.; ५/५/१४, ५:०२ PM
The Cracker Emcee Refulgent म्हणाले...: When I see American feminists protesting outside of mosques I'll take their hyper-aggrieved sensibilities seriously.

Nah, not even then.; ५/५/१४, ५:३१ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: This is a terrible thing and hopefully these girls come out of it ok.

Makes me ill that the Supreme Court just ruled that these kind of people can open up a town meeting, right here in the US, with a prayer to their sicko God.; ५/५/१४, ६:०१ PM
MrCharlie2 म्हणाले...: The people willing to buy them are his troops, @ $12/head; ५/५/१४, ६:२९ PM
sunsong म्हणाले...: This, to me, is just a horrible heart-wrenching crime. I hope that the outrage builds...; ५/५/१४, ६:४० PM
Illuninati म्हणाले...: Drago said...
"Sounds like it's time for another round of Christian bashing and radical Islamist defense.

I wonder which of our regular lefty posters will be first up?"

Drago, I realize that you mean this to be sarcastic, but unfortunately there is a great deal of truth to your accusation against the lefties. Lefties love Islam and with cooperation from some dhimmis on the right they do all they can to protect Islam. Last week Paul Weston, the chairman of a new political party in the United Kingdom called Liberty GB was arrested for quoting a statement by Winston Churchill which is critical of Islam.; ५/५/१४, ६:५८ PM
William म्हणाले...: In some ways this is just as reprehensible as water boarding. If the girls are recovered I hope steps are taken to make sure that they don't become Islamophobic. That would compound the tragedy.......I read the story. The wife of the Nigerian president sounds truly awful. Michelle should take her off the Xmas card list.; ५/५/१४, ७:०२ PM
William म्हणाले...: The Nigerian President will rescue the girls. Goodluck with that.; ५/५/१४, ७:१० PM
geokstr म्हणाले...: Sounds like it's time for another round of Christian bashing and radical Islamist defense.

That's what happens every time on the Volokh Conspiracy, in every post even peripherally or tangentially related to Muslim atrocities, jihad, or sharia. I've been bringing that up in every relevant post since 2007, and it drives the left nuts to be called out on it.

For some strange reason, they proclaim that Christianity, particularly Catholicism, is the source of all evil in the world, while ardently defending the religion that holds everything the left believes in abhorrent, i.e., homosexuality, women's rights, Western culture and music, science, et al.

Although for some inexplicable reason, now that they've partnered with the WaPo, and soon to be firewalled, the comment section has taken on a much more moderate tone. To my surprise, a lot of new conservative commenters/voters have shown up, and the aggressive, belligerent leftists have subsided considerably.; ५/५/१४, ७:१६ PM
Nichevo म्हणाले...: Go on, Cook, tell us this isn't really happening. Go on Garage, explain the role of secret routers. Go on Crack, tell us how whitey is the bad guy and Muslim slavery is no concern of yours.

Ann! Say something inane, make a word puzzle, perhaps a video of yourself trying to get the name right or punning it, Procol Harum, haw haw. Hey, whatever you want to say about these guys, they're not splooge stooges.; ५/५/१४, ७:१९ PM
Tank म्हणाले...: Well, really, we have to respect their religion and culture, as we ask them to do the same. To do otherwise would be bigoted and Islamophobic.; ५/५/१४, ७:२८ PM
MrCharlie2 म्हणाले...: "This is a terrible thing and hopefully these girls come out of it ok. "

Those girls are not going to "come out of it OK." They are not going to do well on their AP tests and go to Princeton. They are not going to overcome the confidence gap. They will never again see the light of day.; ५/५/१४, ७:३४ PM
Michael K म्हणाले...: "The shocking thing isn't that some bozo in Nigeria thinks it is OK to sell girls. It is that there are likely people willing to buy them."

No, the most shocking thing will be the excuses in the New York Times or the New Yorker and the LA Times. However, there will be no mention of the events just as there is no mention of the Benghazi attack except as a delusion of Republicans.; ५/५/१४, ७:५८ PM
traditionalguy म्हणाले...: Are they on Mohammedan EBay yet? And do they come fixed...you know, cliterectomies?

And how about getting free shipping on orders over $1200?; ५/५/१४, ८:०२ PM
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...: "The name of the group is Boko Haram, which means 'Western education is forbidden.'"

It's a cult - probably into alternative medicine, too,...; ५/५/१४, ८:३४ PM
Gahrie म्हणाले...: I've heard that Brandeis is strongly considering scheduling a debate on the advisability of drafting a strongly worded letter of censure concerning the kidnap of these girls.

But I'm betting it is only a rumor.; ५/५/१४, ८:३७ PM
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...: John,

"It's enough to make Crack's head explode. Everybody knows that only whited buy and sell black slaves.

Right?"

Translation: SQUIRREL!!!; ५/५/१४, ८:४३ PM
The Crack Emcee म्हणाले...: MrCharlie2,

"Those girls are not going to 'come out of it OK.' They are not going to do well on their AP tests and go to Princeton. They are not going to overcome the confidence gap. They will never again see the light of day."

Yet few seem capable of understanding the American black experience.

Weird,...; ५/५/१४, ८:४६ PM
Dan'l म्हणाले...: Hi Richard Dolan,

It's not such a "strange idea," if you go by Exodus 21 (and others), where a man-slave can leave his slavery, but he can't take his wife and children with him. The man-slave must choose between slavery and his family. The Old Testament is often just as absurd as the Koran.

Most Christians have just come more to their senses.; ५/५/१४, ८:५० PM
Tarrou म्हणाले...: Not to worry, this is all overblown. I am assured by many well-educated leftists that Islam is a religion of peace, and that women are far worse off in the evil, sexist west than they are in enlightened cultures like mountain guerrilla camps.

Have you all heard that 20% of college freshmen in the US are raped every day?; ५/५/१४, ९:१० PM
I'm Full of Soup म्हणाले...: I guess it might be smartest if we just offer to buy the girls for $100 Million or so and then kill him when we deliver it.; ५/५/१४, ९:३४ PM
Gahrie म्हणाले...: Shorter Crack:

Something awful happened to some Black women in Africa.

America is evil.; ५/५/१४, १०:०१ PM
wildswan म्हणाले...: Under Sharia law you can sell infidels into slavery. It is terrible but the man is not insane - he's just a Moslem believer. Furthermore, if England really accepts Sharia as it says it will do then these girls could be sold into slavery in London.

The debate is whether there are universal values and anyone to uphold them. Will Obama do anything? No, he won't be able to think of anything effective to do; he'll whine about public opinion being opposed to action but the real problem is that Obama is only thinking about the next party or vacation to which he's going.; ५/५/१४, १०:१७ PM
chickelit म्हणाले...: Will Obama do anything? No, he won't be able to think of anything effective to do; he'll whine about public opinion being opposed to action but the real problem is that Obama is only thinking about the next party or vacation to which he's going.

He might at least do another shout-out like he did over the basketball thingie. I'd be disappointed if he doesn't -- it could signal that he puts racial politics above humanitarian issues.; ५/५/१४, ११:४५ PM
Steven म्हणाले...: Averroes (Ibn Rushd) was, in the 12th century, denounced by orthodox Muslims, convicted of heresy, exiled to a Jewish town, and had his books burned, on the grounds that his Aristotelian-based rational philosophy was dangerous to Islam.

On the other hand, Christian and Jewish scholars like Thomas Aquinas and Moses Maimonides took Averroes to heart, and built on his writings, even building them into Catholic and Jewish theology.

Many of the West see this as the short-sightedness of the Muslim religious authorities, who had the opportunity to learn from Aristotle via Averroes, and chose not to, ceding the intellectual leadership of the world to the West.

Boko Haram sees this as the short-sightedness of the of the Jewish and Christian religious authorities, who failed to reject the infection of rationalism that became full-blown secularism, and saw the power of their religions destroyed by it.; ६/५/१४, १२:३७ AM
अनामित म्हणाले...: If you want a western variant of Boko Haram then look no further then the grooming gangs in the UK (with as their very own quisling guest stars the social services, the police, the media and in fact the UK government, especially labour when it was in power).

Well, the UN is grilling the CC, that will help things (yes, sarcasm).; ६/५/१४, २:१५ AM
SomeoneHasToSayIt म्हणाले...: All cultures are good. Don't be judgmental.; ६/५/१४, ७:२७ AM
President-Mom-Jeans म्हणाले...: "Madisonfella" who we know as a certain bug eyed waste of carbon uses this post as an opportunity to attack Christians and the Supreme Court.

Crack uses this post to attack America in general, and whitey in particular.

You can't fix stupid and evil.; ६/५/१४, ७:४९ AM
Jason म्हणाले...: They've already slaughtered schoolchildren by the hundreds and burnt a number of schools to the ground. Nigeria seems awfully slow to secure these schools even after they are known targets.; ६/५/१४, ९:५९ AM
Smilin' Jack म्हणाले...: ""God instructed me to sell them, they are his properties and I will carry out his instructions."" Said Abubakar Shekau....

O ye of little faith! Why can't you just believe this guy? It's not the first time God has done stuff like this...just ask the Canaanites.; ६/५/१४, १०:४४ AM
NotWhoIUsedtoBe म्हणाले...: Slavery never ended. War never changed.; ६/५/१४, ११:०३ AM
TMink म्हणाले...: I do not like his god. I reject his god and all who follow him. That is a horrible god.

Trey; ६/५/१४, ११:११ AM
Fernandinande म्हणाले...: Boko Haram, which means "Western education is forbidden."

No, boko haram means "We suck because we're violent morons".; ६/५/१४, १२:२१ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Who is attacking Christians?

President-Mom-Jeans, in her rush to support the kidnappers, totally missed the point of what was being said. Or maybe she is so stupid she thinks the Supreme Court only protects "Christian" prayer.

Or maybe she just blindly hates all who disagrees with her, and it doesn't matter what was said.; ६/५/१४, १२:२२ PM
Steve म्हणाले...: Sir Charles Napier had the answer:

"My nation has also a custom. When men burn women alive we hang them."; ६/५/१४, १२:२४ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Smilin jack;
""God instructed me to sell them, they are his properties and I will carry out his instructions."" Said Abubakar Shekau....

O ye of little faith! Why can't you just believe this guy? It's not the first time God has done stuff like this...just ask the Canaanites."

What I have noticed from lefty trolls is that they just can bring themselves to condemn something absolutely vile if it means they are on the same side as the right on this. It's pathological.; ६/५/१४, १२:२८ PM
President-Mom-Jeans म्हणाले...: "Madisonfella"

Makes me ill that the Supreme Court just ruled that these kind of people can open up a town meeting, right here in the US, with a prayer to their sicko God.

5/5/14, 6:01 PM

I realize that you are a booze soaked retard, but tell me how criticizing the Supreme Court ruling from the case of Greece NY has fuck all to do with the pedophile worshipping savages in Nigeria? One deals with a prayer before a meeting, the other with kidnapping.

Your insinuation that I am supporting the kidnappers is nonsensical. Please find the nearest busy road and lay down in the middle of it.; ६/५/१४, २:३३ PM
Drago म्हणाले...: madisonfella: "President-Mom-Jeans, in her rush to support the kidnappers, totally missed the point of what was being said. Or maybe she is so stupid she thinks the Supreme Court only protects "Christian" prayer.

Or maybe she just blindly hates all who disagrees with her, and it doesn't matter what was said."

I can see it is very very important to madisionfella that we not discuss the black african radical islamists kidnapping, raping and selling into sex slavery black african Christian girls whose "crimes" are being Christian and being educated.

This is typical of leftists. They simply cannot bring themselves to unequivocally condemn islamists.

War on women indeed.; ६/५/१४, ३:२१ PM
Big Mike म्हणाले...: Maybe what the US needs to do is announce that if we catch anyone who has actually bought any of the girls, we will give them a quick, fair, trial and send them to Oklahoma for execution?; ६/५/१४, ५:४६ PM
Epiphyte - म्हणाले...: The islamic supremacist regime in Sudan has been doing the same thing for years, and relying on the same Quranic justifications.

http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2003/11/saudi-religious-leader-calls-for-slaverys; ७/५/१४, १०:४० PM