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"Jang Song-Thaek, 67, along with five close aides, was stripped naked and thrown into a cage of hounds which had been starved for three days, according to new details emerging from China."
The pack of animals spent more than an hour mauling the group in a punishment called 'quan jue,' or execution by dogs, a report in Chinese newspaper Wen Wei Po said.
ADDED:
Tim Stanley, a historian of the United States, writes in The Telegraph:
Western news outlets are slowly picking up the story but I'd urge caution. North Korean media has made no reference to starved dogs, including in Kim's New Year's message – even though the chubby prince did describe his uncle as "filth" (and a Happy New Year to you, too, comrade!). Moreover, why were 120 hounds used when half a dozen would do? And why the audience of 300? It's all a bit James Bond, a bit shark-tank-in-an-underground-bunker.
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Caligula lives.
What did Dennis Rodman have to say about this?
Willing to bet this is pure horseshit.
I'm willing to bet garage mahal is pure horseshit.
I've seen the torture videos from the Saddam Hussein regime. They are probably still available online somewhere. This is of a piece with that.
Wow garage.....you're willing to believe the most lame bullshit about Republicans, but are willing to give corrupt, evil,vicious Communist dictators the benefit of the doubt.....
Even if this didn't happen, the real scum is Kim Jong-Un. North Korea won't live under tyranny forever - I hope Kim lives long enough to experiences the Ceausescu/Mussolini treatment.
The brutal way dictators rule- showy executions make examples of a few and the rest will be easy to govern. Thank god we live in a nation where that doesn't happen.
Doesn't everyone have a shark tank in their underground bunker? It's the piranha that need sunlight.
garage mahal said...
Willing to bet this is pure horseshit.
1/3/14, 11:00 AM
Just read the comments at the DM and the average Brit commenter makes GM seem positively brilliant in comparison.
This guy just might be too crazy even for the Chinese.
It would not surprise me if they were to make a regime change in NK to a regime that is less crazy and troublesome for them while still retaining a buffer state.
I picture an updated pistachio commercial.
I'd only believe this story if Scott Walker ruled North Korea.
The man knows how to get a message out.
Moreover, why were 120 hounds used when half a dozen would do? And why the audience of 300?
Why 120 hungry hounds to kill 6 people? Showmanship as the dogs attack en masse. It's much more entertaining for a psychopath.
Why an audience of 300? It serves as a powerful warning - this can happen to you.
but are willing to give corrupt, evil,vicious Communist dictators the benefit of the doubt.....
Perhaps I'm not as gullible as you. I didn't believe his father scored 11 hole-in-ones out of 18 holes either.
I forgot to add, this makes the execution of the guy killed by a mortar round look merciful by comparison. It may not have been pretty but it certainly was a fast way to go.
So are we supposed to be upset that he killed some fellow communists or that he starved some dogs?
Perhaps I'm not as gullible as you.
Given that you believe all the bullshit and lies coming from President Obama and the Progressives, I'd say you are much more gullible than me.
By the way, the way the story should end is "...he then had the dogs slaughtered and served at a lavish banquet that night."
I'm tempted to feel some sympathy for his uncle, but then I remember that you don't become a close confidant of that family without some blood on your hands. What's the old saying? Lay down with dogs, wake up with, uh, vicious starving dogs?
It is all Bush's fault.
Video or it didn't happen.
Chubby Dic-tator benefits even from the rumor.
"He so cwazy! Betta do what he say!"
The South Koreans and Chinese ought to make a deal--a united Korea run by Seoul and with no military presence north of South Korea's current border. Then a combined "mercy invasion" to put that regime out once and for all. I can't imagine Beijing needs the headache of an unpredictable gang of crazies on their border, and the Cold War is long over.
And hounds not fed for only three days? Why not a week? Or two?
BarrySanders20 said...
Video or it didn't happen
By that standard, since so little video comes from North Korea at all, the country doesn't exist.
Apparently, this is about China.
How will the canines align themselves in the aftermath?
I'm surprised in a land of dog meat loving starving N Koreans there are any starving dogs left to use.
Moreover, why were 120 hounds used when half a dozen would do?
That's just silly. Even the hungriest dog can't eat a whole person, and you don't want a bunch of leftovers lying around.
I want sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads.
How about a pack of wild dogs?
Done.
"It's all a bit James Bond, a bit shark-tank-in-an-underground-bunker."
Yea but Bond survived... these guys didn't.
Kim is a sick sick man. Hitler did things like that to his enemies to.
It's all a bit James Bond, a bit shark-tank-in-an-underground-bunker.
He says that like that would make it less attractive to Mr. Kim.
(Also, why 120 rather than 6?
Because six men could kill 6 starved dogs if they worked together, assuming they weren't restrained.
And because it's more of a spectacle.
The entire point of such a thing is to be a spectacle for the onlookers - and for the overkill factor to make a point to whoever the intended audience might be.
It seems like a mistake to assume that the Kims are entirely rational - but also one to assume they're completely irrational.
[Assuming that they're not just a front for the military, who are alleged to actually run North Korea, with the Kims as a distraction - but in that case, the logic still applies.])
We can be grateful to Martin Bashir for documenting just how grotesquely hateful a psychopathic 18th century slaveowner (and a MSNBC host) can be. I see no reason why an autocratic dictator cannot reach similar depths......I take the story with a grain of salt, but I wouldn't reject it out of hand.....At least he didn't waterboard the poor guy. That would have really been reprehensible.
Well Idi Amin liked to throw his victims to crocodiles back in the good old days in Uganda.
And Kim Jong Wacko is expanding his repertoire in execution style. There's the guy who was blown up with a mortar round. Although truth to tell, I have my doubts that the mortarmen could drop the second round in the exact same spot they dropped the first one. But "close" is good enough in horseshoes, hand grenades and mortar rounds if you're only trying to kill one guy standing up.
And why not hungry dogs? After all Kim Jong Wacko did in his old girl friend and several of her fellow rock group members by executing the lot of them with a machine gun. If you've ever seen what a .50 caliber slug can do to a human body, you'd realize that what's left of a person after execution by machine gun is truly dog meat. Still that's better than feeding them to a wood chipper ala Saddam Hussein.
Bond always escaped the sharks meant for him that always got some bad guy henchperson.
Then there was the Kliban kangaroo on the sidewalks of New York City, narrowly missed by a boomerang.
He somehow felt the boomerang was meant for him.
A little while back there was a story about an Italian Mafioso who fed a living rival to a pack of hogs.
50 cal? wood chipper?
After all after time "what difference does it make?"
That article Sorun linked to (at 12:01 pm) says the account of the execution appeared in a Hong Kong paper that is the Chinese government's official mouthpiece. It was followed two days later by an editorial in another Chinese paper saying the "backwardness" of the North Korean system made it clear the time for coddling North Korea was up.
Sounds to me that China's laying the groundwork for getting rid of the guy.
This Jong-un guy would be a good hire for the ObamaCare Bureaucracy. He has great experience in the use of Death Panels in an Absolutist Tyranny.
The Chinese are in 8 minute Nuclear Missile Strike range from North Korea and see Jong-un's nukes the same way we saw Castro's nukes.
Why 120 dogs when mutated sea bass work just as well.
It's all lies and I'm so ronery!
What family doesn't have it's ups and downs?
The regime also tied prisoners to the ground and had a tank run over them, not to mention kidnapping Japanese children and adults and holding them prisoner for years.
Here's a 1996 NYT article saying that Eisenhower knew that we left behind 900 US POWs in North Korea in 1953. The article goes on to say that one source believed they were used for human experimentation and then executed.
Apparently Dick Cheney is now working as an advisor to the Norks.
It all happened in the Superdome.
Do you expect me to talk?
No, Esteemed Uncle, I expect you to die.
(It helps if you say the last line in an Aurickian accent)
"A Reasonable Man" and "garage mahal" make it official:
The progressive position on these things is that they cannot have happened. And if they did happen, it must be an Evil Republican's fault.
GM and ARM are just following the Clinton defense mode1:
1) Deny everything
2) Accuse the attackers
3) Change the subject
GM did steps 1 and 2, and ARM just jumped in with step 3.
Stalin believed that Hitler was plotting with the Politburo Jews to overthrow him; hence the show trials of the thirties. That claim is preposterous on its face, and yet it really, truly happened.
I suppose the dogs will align themselves on a Juche-Imperialist Stooge axis when it comes time to eliminate Uncle Jang.
I wonder whether there are new possibilities opening up now, for coordination between China, the US, Japan, and South Korea to topple the North Korean government. South Korea, Japan, and the US cannot move aggressively without risking portions of Seoul to North Korean artillery (at a cost of perhaps hundreds of thousands of deaths), but China is not similarly exposed. China could steamroll the North.
Most lies are easy enough to spot: a bit too much detail, an extravagant slip. 120 dogs was a good number, possibly an auspicious number, but not the actual number if, indeed, dogs did the deed. 7 would have been highly believable.
Re: traditionalguy:
The Chinese are in 8 minute Nuclear Missile Strike range from North Korea and see Jong-un's nukes the same way we saw Castro's nukes.
I don't think DPRK nukes are yet a threat to China, but the window is closing. As of now, my understanding is that South Korea/Japan/China do not think that DPRK has successfully miniaturized their nuclear devices to put them on a missile, though this is such old technology that it is only a matter of time. DPRK's missile guidance technology also seems to be crap, but I guess that could all be a clever ruse.
In the US, the president eats dog. In North Korea, the dogs eat you.
Wouldn't 120 dogs start eating each other? You'd have to house each one separately. Seems like they'd still go after each other when released.
Not that any of this matters. NK king boy is evil. I wish some country would handle him.
That this story is not being immediately dismissed as obviously beyond what could happen in North Korea, gives me more concern about North Korea.
If true, I give him points for style.
ARM gets very very upset when you point out the obvious regarding leftist totalitarian leaders.
To ARM and GM, the future must not belong to those who insult the prophets of leftism.
And now here I am double thinking the Christmas gifts I gave to my nieces and nephews. Hope they were nice enough; maybe I could have done more...
+1 David
Lydia: "Sounds to me that China's laying the groundwork for getting rid of the guy"
China has been known to teach the junior varsity commies a lesson or two here and there:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/war/prc-vietnam.htm
Don't forget that North Korea is the most "progressive" country in the world.
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