Back in the day here in Jacksonville a local chain liquor store had a drive thru window. You would drive up and the "bartender" would lean out the window, hand you a miniature, a plastic drink cup full of ice, your mixer of choice (if desired) and a swirly straw. Think "Harvey Wallbanger". You see, back when we lived civilized lives it wasn't illegal to drink and drive. It was just illegal to drive drunk. And we could drive on the beach, whenever and where ever with drink in hand. Perfect for date night, parked above the high tide line, moon coming up over the breakers, no pretense of a movie because you weren't at the drive in and a bench seat to facilitate all of the above. As I mentioned, a wonderful and civilized life.
Once the puritans get tired of attacking what they perceive to be unhealthy food, they will take another run at alcohol. Just wait, it is coming. The success against tobacco has given too many people a taste of power.
Interesting how most all the candidates want to take NYC back to an earlier time of dysfunction. The reason alcohol/beer is banned at parks and public beaches is due to the misbehavior and criminal conduct that regularly resulted. Same with the issue of drinking on the stoop. It wasn't a lone tenant or a couple sitting quietly, it was a crowd of youths gathered for a party on the stoop, and at all hours, thus creating a disturbance. As usual, such behavior devolves to the lowest common denominator. The misbehavior of some changes the rules of conduct for all--when living cheek to jowl, as is the case in NYC.
I have a problem with the assumption that it is the government's place to "allow" this behavior or that behavior. I think the default position should be that anything expressly not forbidden by (democratically agreed upon) law is permitted. Any law proposed to limit a particular behavior has the burden of proof that such behavior is harmful enough to limit other people's freedom.
When I lived in Berlin, I used to wish they'd enact an open container law. It wasn't people misbehaving that was the problem, it was all the broken glass everywhere.
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But can they drink extra-large sodas?
Undoubtedly everyone else is saying this, but I'll say it too: Are we talking alcohol or Big Gulps?
Back in the day here in Jacksonville a local chain liquor store had a drive thru window. You would drive up and the "bartender" would lean out the window, hand you a miniature, a plastic drink cup full of ice, your mixer of choice (if desired) and a swirly straw. Think "Harvey Wallbanger". You see, back when we lived civilized lives it wasn't illegal to drink and drive. It was just illegal to drive drunk. And we could drive on the beach, whenever and where ever with drink in hand. Perfect for date night, parked above the high tide line, moon coming up over the breakers, no pretense of a movie because you weren't at the drive in and a bench seat to facilitate all of the above. As I mentioned, a wonderful and civilized life.
"Undoubtedly everyone else is saying this, but I'll say it too: Are we talking alcohol or Big Gulps?"
Oops. I left out the word "beer."
Thanks for the heads up.
I was pretty sure it was about beer, because that was the best match to "cannot keep an open container in the porch or in the park"...
But Bloomberg and his soda ban make for a large, easy target.
Once the puritans get tired of attacking what they perceive to be unhealthy food, they will take another run at alcohol. Just wait, it is coming. The success against tobacco has given too many people a taste of power.
Bloomie is a soda Jerk.
Weinberg will be drinking in the park and flashing passersby soon enough.
Interesting how most all the candidates want to take NYC back to an earlier time of dysfunction. The reason alcohol/beer is banned at parks and public beaches is due to the misbehavior and criminal conduct that regularly resulted. Same with the issue of drinking on the stoop. It wasn't a lone tenant or a couple sitting quietly, it was a crowd of youths gathered for a party on the stoop, and at all hours, thus creating a disturbance. As usual, such behavior devolves to the lowest common denominator. The misbehavior of some changes the rules of conduct for all--when living cheek to jowl, as is the case in NYC.
I have a problem with the assumption that it is the government's place to "allow" this behavior or that behavior. I think the default position should be that anything expressly not forbidden by (democratically agreed upon) law is permitted. Any law proposed to limit a particular behavior has the burden of proof that such behavior is harmful enough to limit other people's freedom.
“I should be able to drink ’em while sexting, too,” Anthony Weiner added.
When I lived in Berlin, I used to wish they'd enact an open container law. It wasn't people misbehaving that was the problem, it was all the broken glass everywhere.
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