For two days she writhed on the table, her hands and feet still bound with rope, waiting for her body to eject the murdered baby. In the final stage of labor, a male doctor yanked the dead fetus out by the foot, then dropped it into a garbage can. She had no money for a cab. She had to hobble home, blood dripping down her legs and staining her white sandals red.
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"Almost every one of the pregnant women I spoke to had suffered a mandatory abortion."
"One woman told me how, when she was eight months pregnant with an illegal second child and was unable to pay the 20,000 yuan fine (about $3,200), family planning officers dragged her to the local clinic, bound her to a surgical table and injected a lethal drug into her abdomen."
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Wow, that's no picnic!
From the article: The Communist Party argues that the means justify the ends.
Isn't that backwards?
They are serious Abortionist in China.
No pussy footing around.
tits and thanks.
We have much to learn from our Chinese communist betters, as Tom Friedman and many of his lefty pals would tell us.
I get the impression that whatever economic end they wanted to achieve through this horrible policy has been achieved, in spades.
I suspect that they persist in this policy only because to end it would be to admit a stupendous error, and would weaken the legitimacy of the regime.
The one child policy was going to be in place for one generation only but 4 or 5 years ago it was decided to continue it. I've never seen anyone explain why. A demographic winter is a social disaster - think population loss in Detroit, it didn't make people's lives better. And so there is no compensation at all of any kind in any direction for this brutality. Then why do they keep it up?
Yeah, it's amazing how proud people on the left are. They soldier on through thick and thin, defending the indefensible, even when the contrary facts are in their faces.
Yeah! We win! We beat the Chinese in brutality!
We collect the feet of the babies before we throw them in the garbage. Sometimes, we even flush them down the toilet, if they drown, having failed to climb out. Good times.
Is there a charity or something that would pay these fines for people?
If video of these interviews exists, Thomas Friedman should be strapped down in a theater seat with eyelids clamped open Clockwork Orange-style and forced to watch.
Balfegor, I do not know whether to applaud your subversiveness or vomit in your general direction.
Yes, I guess Thomas Friedman would approve.
The Chinese seem to have spent much of their history in raising cruelty to their fellow Chinese into a high art form.
See also Forward, Great Leap & Revolution, Cultural.
Thank goodness China is so far away.
Women deserve free birth control. It's a civil right.
one of the subplots of the "Bear and the Dragon" by Clancy
I don't understand, it's just a clump of cells.
And remember, Der Fuhrer would like nothing better than to bring that here.
The Chinese leftists are utter and total monsters and butchers. They regard human life or any life as being no different then that of dirt. These stories only make Gosnell and his kind look like collaborators.
Lem said...
Thank goodness China is so far away.
Truman should have given MacArthur the 60 or so atom bombs he wanted to nuke China with after they stepped into Korea. We wouldn't be having this discussion, since they would have been evaporated.
Methadras said...
Truman should have given MacArthur the 60 or so atom bombs he wanted to nuke China with after they stepped into Korea. We wouldn't be having this discussion, since they would have been evaporated.
Not nearly evaporated, but perhaps we would not be having the conversation, because after 10-30 million casualties, birth control seemed like a non-issue as they tried to breed back...
336 million abortions...have been carried out since 1971.
Holy fuck.
Sooner or later we'll invent some bio-weapon that accidentally wipes out three-fourths of the planet and, boom, we'll start having kids again.
In the meantime, baby gets the knife.
And note that our abortion rules are far closer to the Communists of China than the Socialists of France, Spain or Germany.
Unelected dictators all think alike.
I thought I was reading an article about the new Obamacare rules.
The horror is that women in Gosnell's clinic didn't require restraints. They volunteered for the same procedure. And a large percentage of the American public support the result. In both cases a human life is taken. Pick your own victim.
Aaah God. That child was killed.
If the mom could somehow hide her pregnancy to term and gave birth in the hospital, the doctor would snuff it out.
Very much like our botched abortion survivors that a former Illinois senator wanted to let them expire in the garbage can, doesn't it?
I understand the motives of the pro-lifers here, I sympathize.
But the one-child policy of forced abortions and sterilization has affected my family directly, and I don't really care to see it used as a rhetorical football.
What we have here in the US, ugly as it is, does not compare to what they have in China. In China a network of women spies, your friends and neighbors in some cases, watch you to see if you have an unauthorized pregnancy and turn you in.
What the pro-life rhetoric here is doing is analogous to saying that since Hitler and Stalin killed people with gun, guns are bad and should be outlawed here in the US.
Pick your poison.
A sustainable population? Or so many people the temptation to genocide or a winnowing by a new disease that perhaps only affects one race of competing peoples becomes compelling?
Most genocides have happened in lands that perceive they have no ability to grow without ridding fellow excess populations of "others". Rwanda is the most densly packed nation in Africa and part of the temptation of killing Tutsis was to free up land for fast multiplying Hutus living at subsistence food levels. Germany knew it was overpopulated and needed Living Space (lebensraum) when the British blockade finally worked and began starving 150,00 Germans to death a month.
We have looming shortages of potable water, land sufficient for sustainable agriculture, and reserves of critical metals and phosphate (mainly for green revolution fertilizing) sufficient for 20-30 years.
Global human population has increased 8-fold since 1804 when it was at 1 billion. And each billion added, because of the larger and larger base, happens faster, since we are in a geometric growth function.
Existing theory is that the planet can sustain long term - a population 3.5-4 billion - without exhausting resources or moving in and destroying existing wildlife areas to put excess people on to raise food to feed constantly expnding masses.
China's scientists put their own permanently sustainable population level, given a doubling in standard of living of the average Chinese - at 450 million.
Their abortion policy is brutal, but better than other options to get to a sustainable population or invading and systematically slaughtering the natives of another land to transplant 100s of millions of excess Chinese to.
This is where the morality of abortion leads. A government that allows people to chose who lives or dies for convenience sake can, and eventually will, decide to make that choice for you.
Can you say Obamacare, boys and girls? Yes, i knew you could.
Their abortion policy is brutal, but better than other options to get to a sustainable population or invading and systematically slaughtering the natives of another land to transplant 100s of millions of excess Chinese to.
I'm not sure if C-4 is John Holdren or Anita Dunn.
Flip a coin.
Now that's a government the NYT and Obama can really worship...they are such dedicated Malthusians murdering their way to mythical good earth not polluted with God's sons and daughters.
China not only no longer needs the One Child Policy (if it ever did), but it has become quite counterproductive. Just as in the US, there aren't enough young people coming along to work and take care of the old people. Most ordinary people in China understand this. It is a mystery to me why the Party perseveres with this policy.
Not to mention the vivisections of prisoners arrested for their political views to harvest organs.
"Since 2006, evidence has emerged of a more horrific crime. Unlike other countries, China has no large-scale voluntary organ donation system, so instead, military hospitals use prisoners. Experts now estimate that tens of thousands of jailed Falun Gong believers and other prisoners have been systematically examined, and then used as a living organ donor bank, killed on demand to fuel China's lucrative transplant industry."
Imagine being held in prison, given medical tests, and if those tests determine you are a compatible donor, you will be executed.
336 million abortions...have been carried out since 1971.
This brought tears to my eyes on an otherwise happy morning. All those dead children - how horrible. Newtown CT times three hundred million.
Can the Chinese government not simply snip ovarian tubes at the time of a woman's first delivery? Horrible as that is, it is far better than killing unborn children.
Even Planned Parenthood has a made in china label
China has a girl problem. They don't value them. They also have a one child policy. Since they don't value girls, girls are aborted at much higher rates. And now, due to a few decades worth of social engineering, there aren't enough women for Chinese men to marry.
And I say, AWWWWW. As you sew so shall you reap.
This is where the morality of abortion leads. A government that allows people to chose who lives or dies for convenience sake can, and eventually will, decide to make that choice for you.
this is where the morality of The Population Bomb also leads.
I'm not sure if C-4 is John Holdren or Anita Dunn. "
Neither. Just Adolf. If the 336 million Chinese forcibly aborted were the right sort of White People he would be espousing a different view. 336 million, that's more than the current US population and more than the number that the US could kill if the US were to go crazy and launch an all-out nuclear war on China without provocation.
A "sustainable population" is a mindless trope used to justify any tyranny that's convenient. Outside the big cities, China is a 21st century oligarchy ruling a 14th century feudal population, and they like it that way. If China has trouble feeding their people, it's only because the government sees starving them to death as the least expensive way to cull the peasantry.
Elective abortion for profit and control is so much better than mandatory abortion for profit and control. Either way, it is premeditated murder without cause, and it devalues human life.
The final solution proposed by the communists and the pro-abortion/choice groups is myopic and designed to treat symptoms for political, economic, and social profit. It sponsors a dissociation of risk which promotes corruption. The consequences of this short-term solution are not contained to the women who either murder their children or whose children are executed by the state.
Liberty is only suitable for women, and men, capable of self-moderating, responsible behavior. The Chinese will and do suffer for their transgressions. The Americans, Europeans, et al will and do suffer for their transgressions.
People mistakenly believe that evolutionary fitness is a principle that applies to a species as a whole. The effort to normalize behaviors which constitute evolutionary dysfunction exploit women and men's dreams of material, physical, and ego gratification (i.e their base nature) for the benefit of select minorities.
The Left adheres to a philosophy of death for the benefit of a select minority. They impose their will through violent conflicts, perpetual subjugation, bribery, and extortion.
Bryan C:
Exactly. They justify their "final solution" as a means to improve their conditions of comfort and luxury. They, in fact, have no solutions to offer. They suffer from closed minds which cannot envision positive progress. They believe that human beings are incapable of self-moderating, responsible behavior. They participate in efforts to promote converged migration and immigration, which is the principal cause of "overpopulation."
The issue, fundamentally, is that there are people who dream of material, physical, and ego instant (or immediate) gratification. This issue is exacerbated by people who suffer from delusions of grandeur, are opportunistic, or simply sadistic. They exploit these "dreams" by promising people fulfillment without perception of consequences. This is how they advance their political, economic, and social standing. They exploit people's base desires and fears for their benefit.
Steven Mosher of the Population Research Institute has been exposing the brutal methods of forced abortion in China for decades. This is news?
Congratulations on waking up and smelling the coffee if this is news to you.
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