“She seems to take it seriously while not taking it that seriously,” says Sweeney Blum. “She clearly likes the laughs and she likes getting the laughs enough that she doesn’t mind being laughed at, while at the same time, she truly seems to like the things she’s saying. Every time I have an encounter with Victoria, I have so much thinking to do afterwards.”
March 12, 2013
"While they remembered her sincere Christian beliefs, some wondered whether Victoria Jackson, Tea Partier, was some sort of Andy Kaufman-style performance art."
"'A lot of people in show business think I’ll pull off my mask and say, "Ha-ha! I tricked you! Of course I won’t be a stupid conservative Christian,"' says Jackson."
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Fringe. Only word that matters here. She's fringe. Her positions are fringe. Has any liberal performer had their positions labeled fringe?
All of her positions are perfectly respectable and debatable by sane people. How are they fringe in any way? Oh, because Salon doesn't approve. OK.
Every time I have an encounter with Victoria, I have so much thinking to do afterwards.
The phrase "and it hurts my head so much" is implied.
Has any liberal performer had their positions labeled fringe?
The preferred word in such a case is "edgy".
Fringe:Bad::Edgy:Good
One sentence from the article:
"Victoria came out as a Jesus lover."
The love that dare not speak its name?
Is this a theme post with Rand Paul is a kook?
Victoria Jackson makes me cringe, and then feel guilty for cringing.
If you take a look at the comments to that story, you'll notice the extremely mean spirited tone. I thought liberals were nice? I detect much more hatefulness and intolerance from the left than I do from the right. Maybe I need to get out more.
"Maybe I need to get out more."
You would be right..
"You would be right.."
Ok.
Can Salon return from the fringe?
It is perfectly fine in liberal circles to loathe Christians. Oh, and white men.
Trey
In the article her views are called "outrageous" and "extreme."
Hardly.
They are Biblical. Read the book some time. It has been around.
Trey
“It’s not popular to tell the truth anymore. Truth is hate speech. If you tell people what the Koran actually says, you’re called a hate monger.”
Whatever you think is right or true, do and believe the opposite. You will either live at home with your parents or you will be the assistant to the traveling secretary for the New York Yankees.
'Gorillas in the Mist' journalism from Clueless Lefty Salon. OMG, there's a division between her onstage persona and her off-stage beliefs! OMG, she talks about the Bible, how weird! OMG, there's Republicans in showbiz other than Clint Eastwood and that other guy whatsisname, you know, the old guy they always wheel out. OMG, I actually liked her.
It's all just so puzzling.
"Every time I have an encounter with Victoria, I have so much thinking to do afterwards."
How do lefties reconcile that statement with the assertion that she is fringe?
"Victoria Jackson makes me cringe, and then feel guilty for cringing."
Same. Fringe cringe guilt. She's not really fringe but she doesn't articulate well. Her persona is a ditzy one in real life too.
If she was a lefty she'd be celebrated for being ironically ditzy. Her intellect would not be called into question. It wouldn't matter if she was saying the right things.
"I detect much more hatefulness and intolerance from the left than I do from the right."
Lefties are "good" so they can only say good things about protected grievance groups. Unless a member of the grievance group breaks out of their box and says something conservative. Then, it's on, bitch. All that pent up rage comes vomitting forth. Bill Maher has built an entire career around it.
George Costanza!
Fringe or no fringe. I always liked her and probably always will.
Concern trolling.
"All of her positions are perfectly respectable..."
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha!
Says the man made of dumbshit.
Liberals like conservatives that laugh at their jokes, but wouldn't dare laugh at conservative's jokes. A conservative making a joke triggers the modern liberal into fits of anger and violence.
Well, I did notice that she's quoted as saying that earlier death means an earlier ticket to Heaven.
Despite all the Biblical stuff about praying for healing. (Was that better than medicine at the time? Ask that guy Luke, he was a physician and a Gospel-writer.)
However, I notice that no one asks the question of whether the proposed Liberal/Progressive solution to health care problems will actually increase the availability of health care service.
Insurance is not service.
And government functionaries making sure that hospital clerks fill out the forms properly doesn't always change the quality or availability of medical services from the doctors employed by those hospitals.
But both people on that conversation were members of the entertainment industry. People not usually thought of as deep thinkers.
Which makes me wonder: why does anyone pay attention to their opinions?
Victoria is not ashamed of the Gospel. It is natural and true, so why should others feel shame for her?
No reason at all.
For liberals, tolerance is a one-way street.
I kind of relate to Victoria's ditziness.:)
I too find her somewhat cringeworthy even though I probably agree with her far more than I disagree. She's the type of right winger that's used for confirmation bias by the left; as in "See, they're all a bunch of loons like her".
...she is perfect for this fantasy land...perfect.
If you are not part of the liberal supremacy, you are fringe.
Jackson has accused the producers of Glee of "trying to make kids gay."
Just another one of her "perfectly respectable" opinions.
Inga: you are sometimes hella witty.
Four speed stick and her 426
Speaking of nutjobs spouting wacky conspiracy theories, is edumbshit still convinced that Mittens won the election?
It never before occurred to me that a gymnast could ever go to seed.
Erika, thanks for saying I'm sometimes witty, instead of witless.;)
machine said...
...she is perfect for this fantasy land...perfect.
No, but the mindless automaton is.
Jake Diamond said...
Jackson has accused the producers of Glee of "trying to make kids gay."
Just another one of her "perfectly respectable" opinions.
And they're not?
Speaking of nutjobs spouting wacky conspiracy theories, is edumbshit still convinced that Mittens won the election?
Hear about the poll workers indicted in OH?
One voted 6 times.
Then there was the scheme to illegally register 11,000 people in NC, along with the 30,000 dead guys they already registered.
Funny how the Romster was expecting to win and Zero had a concession speech all ready.
But then the man made of dumbshit's boy is having such a swell second term, so far.
Inga said...
I kind of relate to Victoria's ditziness.:)
Then there is hope.
It's often too hard to sort the wit from the chafe.
Ha, see, that was funny!
Celebrating diversity, progressive style.
Progressive obliviousness and hypocrisy is truly comedic.
...like I said...perfect...
Although he died many years ago, liberals don't like Andy Kaufman either.
Jeez, VJ is just so retrograde & disgusting!
Why can't she be within the respectable limits of her profession?
Like raping a 13 year old.
Or, being a coke-head.
Or supporting a left-wing tyrant.
Or believing that our own government planned & executed 9-11.
Can't she just fit within the large pool of nutjobbery available to her? Sheesh!
"One voted 6 times."
Hey, that's nearly the same size as Obama's margin of victory! We need a recount!
It's good to see that edumbshit is still the number 1 Althouse right wing conspiracy freak. He seems to have a tight grip on that title.
Ms. Jackson, in the parts she plays and apparently in real life, is sweet, full of life and love. So she can't really believe all those "hateful" things she says. That is the liberal line of reason and it makes a lot of sense. Except for one problem: Victoria does does believe what she says.
I would like to invite those who are stuck on this conundrum to imagine something--just try, it won't kill you.
There are lots of people who find what she says perfectly reasonable. And no. They don't care what "their betters" think of them, just as you do not care what they think of you.
“They’re sitting there steaming a little bit, and all of the sudden Al leans forward and says, ‘Victoria, surely as a Christian you care about people’s health care, surely you would believe in that.’ And Victoria says, ‘Well, if people died sooner, people will go to Heaven sooner.’
Yeah, we conservatives say that all the time, I don't know why we conservatives can't be good liberals.
Jake Diamond said...
One voted 6 times.
Hey, that's nearly the same size as Obama's margin of victory! We need a recount!
It's good to see that edumbshit is still the number 1 Althouse right wing conspiracy freak. He seems to have a tight grip on that title.
And it's nice to see the man made of dumbshit subscribes joyously to the dictum that his people can't win without vote fraud.
Admitting the problem is always the first step.
Say, how 'bout that sequester? Barry's handling it just great, isn't he?
Marines told to count every bullet while the Empress invites Bouncy and Adele to her $1.4B birthday orgy.
And thinking Obama is a communist is just so mean and hateful, saying it, is hate speech.
It seemed to me that the whole article was kind of like a satire.
Someone pulling the "and you, a christian!" card to push their secular agenda deserves that response.
Still, I find it a rather shocking statement until I think about it a bit and realize that I long ago decided that God probably doesn't get all worried about the lengths of our lives the way that we do. Why would He?
"Marines told to count every bullet while the Empress invites Bouncy and Adele to her $1.4B birthday orgy."
Is that seriously the projected cost? Dear heaven.
Empress, indeed.
We could get a lander on Mars for 1.4B.
Just to put that into perspective.
It might be a smallish lander but still.
It's often too hard to sort the wit from the chafe.
Nice.
Yes, you should believe everything you read in the comment section of this blog....
like I said....perfect....
"Is that seriously the projected cost? Dear heaven."
When did you become so gullible? Maybe you should consider the source (edumbshit).
"Islam is a greater threat than Communism in our country."
Denying this poses a knot for liberals. Communism is a greater threat? They didn't even believe that when the Soviet Union existed.
I always enjoyed her on SNL, and find her personality likable still, but her beliefs are risible. To those who say, "many others share her beliefs," well...more's the pity.
""Islam is a greater threat than Communism in our country."
That supposes that either is a threat, and neither is.
"Marines told to count every bullet while the Empress invites Bouncy and Adele to her $1.4B birthday orgy."
Maybe he is getting math lessons from Maxine Waters...
"And thinking Obama is a communist is just so mean and hateful, saying it, is hate speech."
It's not mean or hateful or hate speech. What it is is delusional.
"That supposes that either is a threat, and neither is."
The non-existance of the World Trade Center says that the threat is non-zero.
The article was clearly a liberal hit job, you would have to be a flaming liberal to think otherwise, the over the top characterization of conservatives.
Ann
Why are you posting crap from Salon? What's next, something from dailykos?
Believing that Jesus walked the Earth and is the son of God, makes you a stoopid, mock-worthy, dummy.
But believing an Assault Weapons Ban will reduce crime, unemployment benefits create jobs, the globe is warming due to mankind, ObamaCare bends the cost curve down (and you get to keep your doctor!) and all US education needs is more funding, makes you smart, informed, and totally logical.
Not on the fringe of anything dammit!
"The non-existance of the World Trade Center says that the threat is non-zero."
The non-existence of the World Trade Center is the result of criminal terrorists. It does not indicate a danger to us from Islam.
So batshit crazy Jay doesn't believe in the greenhouse effect. What a surprise to find that science denial has a prominent place in Jay's fantasy world.
Jake Diamond said...
Is that seriously the projected cost? Dear heaven.
When did you become so gullible? Maybe you should consider the source (edumbshit).
Nothing to good for the Empress, but note the man made of dumbshit could care less whether the Marines are rationing ammo.
Robert Cook said...
"Islam is a greater threat than Communism in our country."
That supposes that either is a threat, and neither is.
Says our star reporter from the Daily Worker.
Jake Diamond said...
So batshit crazy Jay doesn't believe in the greenhouse effect.
There is no evidence, anywhere at all, to indicate the globe is warming due to any "greenhouse effect"
But as a not that bright, easily misled person, you actually think shouting "greenhouse effect" = science.
Keep shouting.
Idiot.
Jake Diamond said...
So batshit crazy Jay doesn't believe in the greenhouse effect. What a surprise to find that science denial has a prominent place in Jay's fantasy world.
Neither does anyone else who has heard of Climategate, but, of course, that's just another crazy right wing conspiracy, right?
PS Moochelle's half centenary may not cost 1.4B, after all.
Looks like Adele's getting cold feet.
Considering what happened to Oprah, who can blame her?
@Robert Cook,
Islam is a greater threat than Communism in our country."
That supposes that either is a threat, and neither is.
What you have done here, Robert, is essentially to pull the lefty trick of false consciousness on a mass scale here.
North Korea, China, & Cuba call themselves communist regimes. All are in one way or another, threats to the US.
The Salafist movements are all Islamic. They call themselves Islamic. Their fellow Muslims who are not Salafist do not say they are heretics, but that they are too extreme.
But you, you decide, based on criteria you have pulled out of your ass, to redefine language and claim that whatever these folks may call themselves, well, you know better.
You know what? Conservatives really are better at listening., because, by golly, when their opponents call themselves Muslims or Commies, they actually believe them.
Robert Cook said...
The non-existence of the World Trade Center is the result of criminal terrorists. It does not indicate a danger to us from Islam
Yes!
Especially if you go about believing the "criminal terrorists" didn't do it in the name of Islam, and a bunch of Muslims around the world weren't celebrating when those towers fell down.
Goof.
"Nothing to good for the Empress"
Yes, edumbshit, you're a very sad man. Did you experience pleasure or pain when you pulled from your ass the figure of $1.4 billion for a birthday party?
And of course, in your fantasy world, Mittens won the election, so at least everyone can see that your delusions continue unabated.
The other number I've found is $3M.
Still outrageous.
Jake Diamond probably reinforces his silly, ignorant beliefs by tittering at christian conservatives who don't accept that the Earth isn't 5 billion years old. While simultaneously pretending a 20 year warming trend (if you accept the bullshit temperature data fed to the computers) of a 5 billion + year old planet, and one that has completely stopped, indicates an environmental catastrophe in the making.
Of course Jakie don't do logic.
Logic requires thinking.
Thinking too hard for Jakie.
"There is no evidence, anywhere at all, to indicate the globe is warming due to any "greenhouse effect"
Welcome to Jay's world of science denial!
I still chuckle when I recall your insistence that pregnancy tests only work on women who are not pregnant. Funny stuff!
Neither does anyone else who has heard of Climategate, but, of course, that's just another crazy right wing conspiracy, right?
Yes. Educated people believe in the greenhouse effect. Only right wing loons deny basic science.
Did the $1.4B figure come from NewsMax or WND?
The other number I've found is $3M.
Well, that's almost $1.4 billion, particularly if you're an innumerate dunce named edumbshit!
Jake Diamond probably reinforces his silly, ignorant beliefs...
So Jay thinks science is a collection of "silly, ignorant beliefs." Enough said.
@Jake,
Yes. Educated people believe in the greenhouse effect. Only right wing loons deny basic science.
That's right, Jake. Just like these scientific nincompoops!
It is also funny that Jake Diamond didn't get the memo on the latest scare.
After the population bomb, global cooling, Alar, and global warming, the latest is climate change!!!
Do try and keep up.
Jake Diamond said...
So Jay thinks science is a collection of "silly, ignorant beliefs.
Too funny.
To recap:
Me: you actually think shouting "greenhouse effect" = science.
Jake: The greenhouse effect is science!
You can't make this level of stupid up, folks.
Jake Diamond said...
Welcome to Jay's world of science denial!
Little boy:
You actually think it responsive to shout "greenhouse effect is science"
That tells us all we need to know about your intellect.
Jake Diamond said...
Jake Diamond probably reinforces his silly, ignorant beliefs...
So Jay thinks science is a collection of "silly, ignorant beliefs." Enough said.
It stopped being "science" a couple of years ago.
But, if your brain is made of dumbshit, anything works.
Synova said...
The other number I've found is $3M.
Where, if I may ask?
I can't see 3 mil covering the birthday cake.
(not picking a fight, just curious)
That's right, Jake. Just like these scientific nincompoops!
The Althouse lemmings are now citing a minority report from Inhofe as scientific evidence. Hilarious!
@Jake,
The quotes aren't from Imhofe, you stupid, scurrilous piece of shit. They're all hotlinked to their sources.
Read it and come back to talk to us when you actually have a few facts in your head.
Ah... to have a Republican as President again, when extravagance matters.
I know this will have to be transcibed in purple crayon so the man made of dumbshit can understand it, but here's a nice little summary.
Would love to read Salon's profile of Adam Carolla, especially since he beclowned Gavin Newsom.
You actually think it responsive to shout "greenhouse effect is science"
That tells us all we need to know about your intellect.
The fact that you made up a quote to attribute to me tells me all I need to know about you.
But as to the science, yes, the greenhouse effect is a well understood scientific process. Even the relatively few scientists who doubt global warming accept the science underpinning the greenhouse effect. Only batshit crazy nutjobs deny the greenhouse effect.
Jake Diamond said...
That's right, Jake. Just like these scientific nincompoops!
The Althouse lemmings are now citing a minority report from Inhofe as scientific evidence. Hilarious!
Translation:
Lalalal I can't hear you!
Where, if I may ask?
I can't see 3 mil covering the birthday cake.
Try pulling your head out of your ass.
Wouldn't it be fun to offer Jakie a grand prize - say $10,000,000 - to explain the scientific method, then factually articulate which parts of the "greenhouse effect" were tested using the scientific method and when and where this happened, for the grand prize?
If stupid were sold like hamburgers Jakie would have golden arches over his head....
It stopped being "science" a couple of years ago.
Science stopped being science a couple of years ago? Is that when you suffered your brain trauma?
Jake Diamond said...
The fact that you made up a quote to attribute to me tells me all I need to know about you.
Then:
the greenhouse effect is a well understood scientific process.
HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
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HA HA HA HA HA
HA HA HA HA HA
AGAIN, you can't make this level of stupid up, folks.
the greenhouse effect is a well understood scientific process.
Um, no, no it isn't.
The greenhouse effect is actually phenomenon whereby the earth's atmosphere traps solar radiation, caused by the presence in the atmosphere of gases such as carbon dioxide, water vapor, and methane that allow incoming sunlight to pass through but absorb heat radiated back from the earth's surface.
A "scientific process" is not a term you understand.
Idiot.
@Jay/Ed
It really is amazing how stupid JD is for someone who thinks he's otherwise.
When challenged with documentary evidence from reputable sources that things aren't quite what he thinks, he doubles & triples down with a bare repetition of his assertion.
Most folks who are that stupid have some sense of their limitations. Not our JD. He just runs out into the public square & makes sure the world knows.
It's truly amusing to watch the science deniers wet themselves as they race to post links. Hey, don't forget the links to the opinions of high school graduate Anthony Watts, fraudster and politician Christopher Monckton, english literature graduate James Delingpole, feminist Donna Laframboise, lawyer James Taylor, and all those other great self-appointed climate science "experts." After all, who understands science better than some libertarian goofs who have designated themselves scientific experts?
When challenged with documentary evidence from reputable sources
Bwahahahahahahaha! A minority report by Inhofe is a reputable scientific source? Hilarious!
Truly delusional.
@Jake,
Uhhhmmm, Jake, who of the big names in AGW have doctorates in climatology, paleo-climatology, or meteorology?
I'll be waiting for the list.
Nice disguise, Jake Diamond, though utterly transparent to me.
In case any of the Althouse boneheads want to understand the greenhouse effect, here's a link to Roy Spencer's blog and an article in which he explains the physical process.
Note: Roy Spencer is a so-called skeptic.
Enjoy! (And don't forget to come back and tell me why Roy Spencer doesn't understand physics!)
How many other Althouse lefties besides Jake comment exclusively on AGW, gay marriage, GWB, and race issues--and consistently do so in a rude, over-the-top fashion?
Why even bother to change disguises, Jake?
It is also comical (and instructive) Jakie has proudly revealed he can't distinguish between what liberals assert is man made global warming and the phenomena of a greenhouse heating up.
Jakie is like the neighborhood slow, drooling imbecile
Why even bother to change disguises, Jake?
I give up; what other identities are you assigning to me?
P.S. Currently you are the most sane right winger in this thread. Congratulations.
@JD,
Did you read what's at your link?
No one hear denies that the Earth's atmosphere has C02, methane, water vapor, etc that cause a greenhouse effect on the climate. It's hard to believe that there would be life on Earth is this were not the case.
What we are denying is that
1) The scientific case for AGW is airtight.
2) That there is no meaningful dissent on the topic of AGW within the scientific community.
Can you even see basic logical distinctions?
I'm done with this & you. You're a waste of time for this forum.
And of course Jakie goes all garage mahal and links to something that doesn't say what he claims it does.
I'm shocked by this.
Really, I am
what liberals assert is man made global warming
In Jay's bubble, scientists are called liberals? That's an interesting development.
So to recap I sarcastically said if you believe the earth is warming you are all smart and informed and Jakie replied I don't believe in the greenhouse effect. As if the greenhouse effect = global warming.
To top it off, Jakie then linked to a blog post where the author asserted that "the greenhouse effect" as liberals like Jakie use the term is a misnomer because the earth isn't a greenhouse.
You can't make this up people....
"In Jay's bubble, scientists are called liberals? That's an interesting development"
----
Watching you flop and fail on this is embarrassing.
A person with self respect would stop. You, however, will persist.
@YH
I'm calling bullshit. Here are a few quotes from the Althouse lemming brigade:
There is no evidence, anywhere at all, to indicate the globe is warming due to any "greenhouse effect" - Batshit Crazy Jay
It [science] stopped being "science" a couple of years ago. - edumbshit
In other words, your claim that these folks hold reasonable, sound, scientific objections to AGW is garbage. They're simply science deniers.
Jay/Ed/chicklit
We have sinned & fed the troll way too much.
I think our best recourse in this matter is silence, since we will not be able to telepathically implant in our compatriot a sense of shame via a Blogger forum.
To top it off, Jakie then linked to a blog post where the author asserted that "the greenhouse effect" as liberals like Jakie use the term is a misnomer because the earth isn't a greenhouse.
Apparently Batshit Crazy Jay doesn't understand what the word "misnomer" means. Moreover he must have incredibly poor reading comprehension if he doesn't understand that Spencer was defending the existence of the earth's greenhouse effect. Of course the title of the article "In Defense of the Greenhouse Effect" might have served as a hint to Batshit Crazy Jay, but I guess he's slower than even I thought.
I've never seen Victoria Jackson. Is she as funny as Margaret Chao?
3/12/13, 4:18 PM
Blogger Robert Cook said...
""Islam is a greater threat than Communism in our country."
That supposes that either is a threat, and neither is."
And Fort Hood was "workplace violence."
I think our best recourse in this matter is silence
This strategy is more accurately known as "running away."
Run away, Althouse lemmings, run away!
Batshit Crazy Jay,
edumbshit,
YoungBullshitter,
I accept your concession. You've made fools of yourselves with your science denial, but all will be forgotten until you do it again tomorrow.
Thanks for the insight into your bubble.
What we are denying is that
2) That there is no meaningful dissent on the topic of AGW within the scientific community.
I suppose this may depend on your definition of the scientific community.
In meteorology, any meaningful dissent is limited to very specific individuals nibbling away at the edges of some of the reports and scientific writings. I agree that this small subset of people does not invalidate your statement that there is no meaningful dissent. It seems like a thin gruel to me though.
Always loved Victoria, thought she was very funny Comedic actress. Problem is she needs someone to write her jokes.
Saw an interview where she says at SNL she had to beg writers to write stuff for her; even though when they wrote it it was very successful.
BTW, what ever happened to Tina Fey?
"Blogger Jake Diamond said...
That's right, Jake. Just like these scientific nincompoops!
The Althouse lemmings are now citing a minority report from Inhofe as scientific evidence. Hilarious!"
Stop arguing with Mr Diamond. He has a right to his religion and we shouldn't be making fun of him for relying on appeals to authority for his beliefs. After all, some people believe the Bible is literally true.
Had Victoria Jackson has been treated shows the difference between the Right and the Left. The Left will pay to see some unfunny asshole and laugh at his jokes even when they're unfunny. Cf: Bill 'the dog-faced boy' Maher and Roseanne.
The Right won't. You have to actually be funny.
Victoria Jackson VS Ashley Judd.
Jake Diamond said...
It stopped being "science" a couple of years ago.
Science stopped being science a couple of years ago? Is that when you suffered your brain trauma?
By that rationale, we should all believe in phlogiston.
Okay, Chip. That's funny (and now I feel guilty again).
Jake Diamond would crawl over a mile of ground glass to get within an inch of VJ's celebrity.
Chip ..Jackson should be on the right not Judd but great job anyhow,
Jake-you do know that Bill McKibben has no science training don't you.? So I guess, using your standard, he is just a know nothing librul tree hugger.
"I've never seen Victoria Jackson. Is she as funny as Margaret Chao?"
Funnier.
Is Margaret Chao funny?
"I've never seen Victoria Jackson. Is she as funny as Margaret Chao?"
Funnier.
Is Margaret Chao funny?
Victoria says, ‘Well, if people died sooner, people will go to Heaven sooner.’
Well, regardless of the merits and demerits of the above point of view, it's not my sense that Christians in general wish, or think they should wish, that people would just die sooner — but beyond that, it's abiblical. The New Testament clearly states that Christian dead will sleep until the sounding of the horn of judgment (e.g., 1 Thessalonians 5:14-17).
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