Althouse: "In the ’80s and ’90s, a liberal arts graduate who didn’t know what to do went to law school."

January 31, 2013

"In the ’80s and ’90s, a liberal arts graduate who didn’t know what to do went to law school."

"Now you get $120,000 in debt and a default plan of last resort whose value is just too speculative. Students are voting with their feet. There are going to be massive layoffs in law schools this fall. We won’t have the bodies we need to meet the payroll."

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chickelit said...: Putting up a big fence would be pretty symbolic, you gotta admit.

OTOH, if you came crawling to Althouse on all fours, they could adopt you!; 1/31/13, 8:29 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: "In the ’80s and ’90s, a liberal arts graduate who didn’t know what to do went to law school."

"I had loved everything about Yale Law School—especially the part where I graduated at 40—but I spent my life savings on an abiding interest, which is a lot to invest in curiosity.

Elizabeth Wurtzel; 1/31/13, 8:31 PM
bagoh20 said...: " why not Wisconsin?"

I'm just one wingnut asshole with a business, but Wisconsinites might care what someone like me thinks about that. I have considered it. The weather is a factor in my case, but even if it wasn't, I consider Wisconsin a saner version of California. Much saner, but still not the kind of place that respects business, and stays out of people lives. It's just an impression we outsiders have. Maybe it's wrong, but stuff like last year's protests create the impression of a silliness among the people, and unrealistic ideas, that are a little scary. Like I said, keeping Walker helped a lot with that.; 1/31/13, 8:34 PM
bagoh20 said...: " if you came crawling to Althouse on all fours, they could adopt you!"

I'm not house trained, and I hump a little when I get bored.; 1/31/13, 8:36 PM
Anonymous said...: They could always neuter you ;); 1/31/13, 8:38 PM
Revenant said...: Propose that they just get the shit taxed out of them even higher for doing that. Put in a "low-wage labor" tax to make up the difference for those all important profits.

Then watch as the company gets rid of its American workforce and reincorporates in Canada or Mexico. :); 1/31/13, 8:38 PM
bagoh20 said...: Alright, I've hijacked this thread enough. Sorry.

I'm going home now. Tomorrow is Friday and payday! I love that combo. We pay twice a month so we don't get that every time. Woohoo!; 1/31/13, 8:38 PM
mccullough said...: Ritmo,

No need for multi-national corporations to be based in the US. They could maintain a US subsidiary and be based in Europe. It happens that corporate headquarters moves. No one bitches that Toyota doesn't create more US jobs.; 1/31/13, 8:41 PM
test said...: We were told that if we didn't do enough business with them to build their own middle class, then they would have gone to war with us.

Rewriting history only works with leftists and college students.; 1/31/13, 8:49 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Ritmo, do you realize that you didn't actually dispute any of my points about the Governator. He's always been a Hollywood liberal...

I disputed your stupid notion that cheating, breaking the government financially and whatever else you imputed to him were ideological traits that Republicans are immune to.

And even if they were indeed political traits, Republicans seem to exemplify them quite well.

Republicans love to talk about how they have exemplary characters, and how important character is, and then they rub a cop's foot in the airport bathroom, get on a D.C. madam's call list, tell their 2nd wife (not the one dying of cancer) that the extramarital oral sex he had wasn't cheating -- (and also that he doesn't have to believe the "values" he preaches, since his skill is just demagoguing them [yes, Gingrich said that]), and, well, of course I could go on.

But that would just disabuse you of your blissful ignorance and bumper sticker philosophies. So why bother? We know that without those things you don't have a thought in your head to speak of.; 1/31/13, 9:24 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: A "Hollywood liberal" who makes soaring speeches about how his primary inspiration for entering politics was Richard Nixon.

Dude, is there anything that you DO have a clue about?

This Palinesque reduction ad absurdum punditry is so stale that not even mold can grow on it anymore. Even FOX has had enough of her and her stupid black-and-white thinking. It's time for you to move on too, you cockroach.; 1/31/13, 9:28 PM
bagoh20 said...: Geeze Ritmo, you are kinda uptight about people's sex lives. Maybe you're a conservative, a wingnut, a hillbilly, a luddite, a condom hater.; 1/31/13, 9:29 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: I couldn't care less. I just think they can be honest about practicing what they preach.

But I see you are threatened by the idea of someone not having to lie to make their point. I'm not surprised.; 1/31/13, 9:32 PM
bagoh20 said...: "Dude, is there anything that you DO have a clue about?"

I'm back home now...in LOS ANGELES. Did you know that it's a city that spent most of the last decade under the Governator, who I voted for, and watched, read about, and listened to everyday for all those years. Maybe you you have some closer experience with him. Do you do windows?; 1/31/13, 9:34 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: I read. Which is more than anyone can say for you.; 1/31/13, 9:37 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: “I heard Nixon speak. He was talking about free enterprise, getting government off your back, lowering taxes and strengthening the military. Listening to Nixon speak sounded more like a breath of fresh air. I said to my friend, "What party is he?" My friend said, "He's a Republican." I said, "Then I am a Republican!"”

Arnold Schwarzenegger. "Hollywood liberal" -- according to someone who doesn't read, but rather, just "talks and listens to people".; 1/31/13, 9:39 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: California isn't really liberal once you get south of the bay. You just get a stageful of libertine starfuckers who "read" as "liberal" to the rube appeasers. But that's not the same thing.

Schwarzenegger is just a libertine Republican - like all the rest of them (behind closed doors).; 1/31/13, 9:42 PM
kentuckyliz said...: If we are all going to lapse into genteel poverty and be clients of The State, I am very fortunate to live among a population of experts at this game. I know exactly who to pick as my mentors to get schooled in how to game the system. I would really rather work, but if that is not an option, might as well...

Enjoy the Decline! Suckahs!; 1/31/13, 9:44 PM
bagoh20 said...: "I read."

Maybe you can read about Apollo 11 and start your own space program.; 1/31/13, 9:44 PM
Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...: Maybe you can read about Apollo 11 and start your own space program.

But, but, but that would be hard! The government might not make it easy enough for me! Waaaah!!!; 1/31/13, 9:46 PM
chickelit said...: Schwarzenegger is just a libertine Republican

Just like your hero, Andrew Sullivan!

Before you off your rails on that one, explain your Palin non sequiturd above.

Sometimes, Ritmo, I think we should stand face to face: you could spit "Palinist" at me and I could spit "Sullivanist" at you. :); 1/31/13, 10:34 PM
Revenant said...: I don't have the heart to be the one to tell Ritmo that sometimes... every once in a great while... a politician's words are not reflected in his actions in office.

Bless his heart, I just can't be the one to shatter that innocent world-view of his. :); 1/31/13, 10:44 PM
Dante said...: I read. Which is more than anyone can say for you.

I too live in CA, and have all my life.

My evaluation of Schwarzenegger is that he tried to fix things, by taking it to the voters, realized there was no way he was going to win, so let it fail, and then said "OK, this is what you want, then this is what you will get." It's a Democracy, right?

Meanwhile, the state remains incredibly damaged. It has a burgeoning underclass, massive entitlement system, massive taxes, and it treats the people who make the stuff and pay the bills like crap.

That hasn't stopped Jerry Brown with his huge liberal appetite from wanting to build a HSR train that no one will use, especially since to get the pretend price tag down to $80B they had to slow it down, or to require 30% renewables by 2020, excluding hydro and nuclear.

Regarding "Renewables," what problem are you trying to solve. If it's cutting greenhouse gases, then say so, and make that work, instead of saying "Renewables," except hydro. Can I burn wood? That's renewable, right?; 2/1/13, 12:08 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: I find bagoh20 more entertaining, commenting on a blog, and much more informative, than almost anything else.

Garage made some good points about, like Rush says, most people's limitations bing self-imposed.

Another truism applied to a topical argument/observation.

AllenS reminds me more of Uncle Milt Friedman the more I read.; 2/1/13, 12:15 AM
Guildofcannonballs said...: AllenS, having taken the time to truly understand why what happens happens, on a micro level that is more complex than nearly everything labeled or understood as "macro" in at least many decades, is one thing, Milton Friedman showed the unblind.

Then, being able to describe why, in real time, on the interwebs where some tiny portion of a very evidence-laden tirade-of-truth dispersed of idiocy without resorting to defiling the man that is Mr. AllenS (by "wrestling with pigs" or whatever internet refutation of untruths our surfing "immanentizes the eschaton" as they say, as it were, he takes it in stride.

Since my formative years included the movie "Tombstone" and the line "I ain't got the words" I've dedicated my life to words, in that I want an over abundance of magnitudes heretofore unheard of save God.; 2/1/13, 1:41 AM
AllenS said...: NotquiteunBuckley said...
"I ain't got the words"

Ain't that the truth.; 2/1/13, 8:29 AM
bagoh20 said...: Notquitebuckley,

I think I love you.; 2/1/13, 9:52 AM
Aridog said...: AllenS ...great project that Jeep, hope your working garage is at least a bit heated "-)

Best line I've read on this entire thread, so good I am stealing it for use in some local face to face conversations...it is by Bagoh20:

The real problem we have now, and which may get much worse, is not that people have nothing to do for pay - new markets will be created the same as ants will always dig - it's that people now want [to be] paid for doing nothing, and getting them that gig is a burgeoning occupation.

I also must note that from this thread it appears that there is still substantial belief in various myths about military and federal "government jobs", pensions, and security. I get the impression that few have heard of things like "RIF's" or "FERS." I am convinced that few people care about what it is really all about...or where the worst problems lie in bureaucracy.; 2/1/13, 10:07 AM