All the big GOP players now know Walker’s story by heart. Republican billionaires and megadonors are suddenly well-acquainted with him as well.The recall has put Walker in the position where he must advertise and promote himself, which might have been awkward before — and it was never his thing. TV viewers are getting barraged with Walker ads — and almost nothing for his cash-strapped opponent, and we're tolerating it because he was forced into having to defend himself. What a nice opportunity for him!
And if he wins in the June 5 recall against Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett (D) — which polls suggest he’s likely to do — his trajectory will very likely be even higher.
Not only will Walker be lionized by his GOP colleagues for embarrassing Big Labor and forcing the left to pour cash down the drain in a presidential election year, he’ll be credited with making the state more competitive for Mitt Romney.
Not bad for a rookie governor who has never been known for his charisma or burning political ambition....
I don't watch all the TV shows, but this week, I've watched "American Idol" and part of a couple Brewers games, and I've seen ad after ad for Walker. I saw one ad against Walker, and it was a confusing complaint about how Walker is a "rock star." Idiots! They made him a rock star.
Ah! I found the "rock star" ad:
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A personal perspective on Scott Walker's fitness for office from someone who knew him in college:
http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/05/wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-is-still-unfit-for-office/
I have little doubt this personal account is accurate...but then, I assume Walker's personality, as described herein, is probably pretty true to most who are drawn into politics.
By the way, has anyone seen the HBO series VEEP? Hilarious and painful, it probably gives a more accurate rendering of the humiliating experience of living and working (and "serving") in "the Beltway" than we will ever find in journalistic accounts. To the degree this show is reflective of the truth, we can only assume all who choose this life for themselves are seriously damaged people.
He needs to work on flattening his accent if he wants to go national.
The article Robert Cook linked is actually hilarious. It was written by a very angry liberal who probably can't tolerate anyone who isn't just exactly like himself.
For a man who "isn't fit for office", Walker has done a pretty damn good job, both in Madison and in Milwaukee County.
I'm not sure I'd refer to Walker as any sort of hero (but he has more political courage than Obama) but he certainly has exposed the public sector unions as bullies and losers.
The link from Cook reminds me of a dissenter in Utah about Romney; there is some vague criticism, but it's most ad hominem and after a while you realize that it's mostly about the speaker and some major bitterness they are carrying for reasons that are totally unclear.
(The link actually makes no case for why Walker is unfit for office. It's hardly about Walker at all and that which is boils down to "Walker is a bad man because I heard...". It's mostly about the speaker. It seems that the writer's bitterness is that he graduated and Walker didn't, but Walker made it big and the writer didn't and it pisses him off.)
Scott Walker was just another state rep who opined occasionally on the local sunday morning shows. The Milwaukee County pension scandal broke and he took the opportunity to get elected as county exec.
The unions and the democrats made Scott Walker's career long before he was elected governor. It is not surprising they are doing it again.
Robert Cook, the essay to which you linked is mostly opinion presented as fact, by a person who demonstrates him/herself to be a little biased: "...Scott Walker is the latest tea party right wing, uneducated, superstitious nut job bent upon destroying America with a virulent form of conservatism bordering upon fascism."
Don't you have a sense for liars? The author, Glen Barry, is off the charts.
He's also a lousy writer. "With a C average (if that) and never graduating, I am not surprised..."
Remember those personal perspectives on Barack Obama's fitness for office from people who knew him in college?
Those were awesome.
My reaction to that ad was:
Where's the beef?
Zero substance.
Robert Cook said...
A personal perspective on Scott Walker's fitness for office from someone who knew him in college:
Everything you post is a lie or in service to a lie.
Next ad: "Walker: too damn popular."
Walker is a good example of a man of faith who does bold deeds in a time of chaos and confusion all around him.
He was never intimidated or confused because he had a firm hold on what is right and wrong and a faith that right would prevail.
He is a hero to me.
The best part is watching liberals continue to underestimate this guy.
"He's stoopid!"
"He didn't even graduate!"
All the while he runs circles around them while making himself the most influential Wisconsin governor in decades.
Democrats caused this unethical recall then they attack the Governor for having dared raised money to fight it.
No recall, no fund raising right now.
Hypcorisy thy name is DPW.
The link says a lot about Robert Cook.
The ad seems to me to be the classic case of the words saying one thing, the images saying another. Don't images usually prevail in this situation? They've shown the Governor like a rock star, victorious and adored. That won't help Mayor Barrett.
Robert Cook, I haven't seen Veep. Is that a cable show? I've heard it's funny, but don't have cable. I've found Netflix is getting more and more TV shows, so I'll wait.
AllenS, what does it say? I'm really curious. Robert Cook comes across as sincere. I think he really believes in the comments he posts. So...is he foolish, stupid, brainwashed, or something else?
What the hell is going on? I'm in Bob Dole mode here. Where's the outrage? How dumb are the people out there?
Robert Cook, I haven't seen Veep. Is that a cable show? I've heard it's funny, but don't have cable. I've found Netflix is getting more and more TV shows, so I'll wait.
It's an HBO show which will only be available on the network and online at HBO-GO (sort of an HBO version of netflix). Honestly, you should have HBO for Game Of Thrones alone, if nothing else.
VEEP is pretty damned good, but it's no GoT. For one thing, no Lannisters.
Having read the article lined by Robert Cook, my first thought is this is not written by someone trying to He's writing for a self described radical magazine, and throwing bombs and innuendo, much as he accuses the Governor of doing. He uses an example of Walker's "bullying" at MU. Apparently there was a to do about the student government misusing student funds, which lead to resignations of some of the students in the government. Walker pushed for further investigation, and some sort of trial. Really, that doesn't sound like bullying, trying to determine whether the funding scandal went further.
Most of the rest is just the writer stating that someone who disagrees with him is unfit for office. And it's Walker who is the fascist.
I would think that Mayor Barrett's only hope to win in the recall election is to convince the independent voters that the Governor is taking WI in the wrong direction. Articles like that are not going to do it.
One last thing: the writer, and others like him make a big deal out of the fact that walker has no college degree. I know a lot of people with college degrees, I know a lot of people without them. From what I've seen, a college degree does not guarantee intelligence or even overcome ignorance. It is way too easy to think of people without degrees that would be much better than many of those who have graduated from elite schools.
Well-played, Democrats, well-played.
#1 in the poll.
He's a hero for putting Conservative policies into action and seeing them succeed. That doesn't make him a Republican hero necessarily since a lot of RINOs undoubtedly see him as eliminating opportunities for them to reach across the aisle to their friends in the Democrat Party.
The ad itself is a little counter-productive since it unintentionally draws attention - for those who know the truth - to all the government jobs that have been able to be eliminated, and thus money saved, due to his policies and that the trips Walker has made out of state to lure companies to set up shop in WI.
Mr Cook--you still watch television? I am disappointed. I thought most people with any intelligence gave it up years ago.
He was a laughable dork – dumb, full of himself, and authoritarian.
I always associate 'laughable dork' with 'authoritarian'.
I don't think the video said anything to me except the graphics look like a parody of a japanese show or something.
My reaction to that ad was:
Where's the beef?
Zero substance.
They kept hitting on the point that Walker has left town on occasion.
I like the part in the Cook article where the author says he's totally not jealous! Isn't that pretty much always a tell that you are?
Oh for heaven's sake, Robert, what on earth was the point of you referencing that barely literate screed? "Tea party right wing uneducated, superstitious nut job"? Really?
Uneducated? Why? Because he didn't graduate college? Little Black Jesus "graduated" college, and without his teleprompter he can barely string a coherent sentence together.
Superstitious? Ten to one that's a slam at any religious belief Walker holds. Or doesn't hold, in relation to the global warming cult.
You disappoint me by posting that garbage.
Frankly, whether Walker wins or loses is of no account to me. Massachusetts has its own problems. I only want to see him win just to slap the smirk off the faces of the self-righteous fools like Garage and Allie.
As far as VEEP is concerned, I've never seen it, nor cared to, considering its star is the teeth-grindingly obnoxious Julia Louis-Dreyfus.
I havn't watched Veep because it just looks like another HBO vehicle to bash Palin.
I stopped reading at: "Scott Walker is the latest tea party right wing, uneducated, superstitious nut job bent upon destroying America with a virulent form of conservatism bordering upon fascism.". Waste of my time.
I havn't watched Veep because it just looks like another HBO vehicle to bash Palin.
I've only watched two or three episodes, but I have to be honest and say that hadn't occurred to me at all. I don't know what the setup is and each episode seems to be mostly self-enclosed, but I never got the impression they were satirizing a Palin vice-presidency.
Seriously, that Walker bashing has a doctorate? The muddled thinking shown is unreal.
That's the sort of writing I would expect to see on some loony conspiracy site.
It made me think "union jobs for the concert gig."
The "Veep" IIRC only Albin Barkley of KY lays claim to that title. As for Ms Dryefus, clearly the curse of Seinfeld remains.
Walker reduced a 3.6 billion dollar deficit without raising taxes or directly laying off employees like the governor of Illinois. Despite doing the opposite of Walker, Illinois is a basket case, closing prisons and clinics and still having to modify employee benefits.
Walker's reforms allowed WI school systems to bid out health care insurance and saved hundreds of millions of dollars because the Union owned monopoly company was charging a third over market rates (and then funneling the excess money to Democrats)
With the educational reforms we will soon see bad teachers being released to more suitable employment and good teachers being elevated. Union attitudes about excellence and effective teaching processes will disipate and we will soon see improvement in out education.
With the savings in the schools, property tax pressure has lessened and state-wide property taxes declined slightly.
Its kind of hard to see why all taxpayers aren't considering Walker a rock star. Only those that are paying attention are.
That rockstar ad is pretty darn positive for Walker. No idea how that ended up as part of a campaign against him.
Robert Cook said...
A personal perspective on Scott Walker's fitness for office from someone who knew him in college:
Compared to Obama or any elected democratic he is over qualified. Is this the best you have?
The invincible arrogance and stupidity of the progressives is awe inspiring. November will be a joy to behold. The left has finally jumped the shark. All thanks to Obama.
Union boss: What are you serving for dinner to night, Tom?
Tom: I'm serving the people of Wisconsin.
Yeah, Walker hasn't done anything!!
Except, er, keep his campaign promises and balance the budget.
Yea right the liberals made him a rock start just like they forced him to accept all that money from the Koch brothers, and front for ALEC; the Althouse apologist seem to have no shame as they play the victim card.
the Althouse apologist seem to have no shame as they play the victim card.
It's kind of hard to categorize Walker as a victim when he's about to dropkick Barrett into Lake Michigan. The recall is onerous, as all recalls are, and talking about that fact doesn't make him a victim.
Damn--the Koch brothers aka emmanuel goldstein surface in RVs comments--and tell us please RV where did the dems get their money? Oh, I know, it was for bake sales and widow's mites. Give me a break--thats about as dumb a statement as I have seen you make.
Its a political battle and the only problem with tainted money there taint enough of it--and it looks like Walker is in the catbird seat.
"the liberals made him a rock start just like they forced him to accept all that money from the Koch brothers,"
Pretty much true r/v and it must hurt like hell.
This ad strikes me as a lame attempt to resurrect a theme from the McCain campaign against Obama. In 2008, McCain tried to tag Obama as the rock star/celebrity candidate -- the fake columns, the oceans recedeing, the Victory Column speech in Berlin, the adoring throngs, etc. -- all to make a point that O had done nothing and accomplished nothing. He was The One, The Anointed, but was celebrated just for being O. The intent was to show that O was an empty suit.
We all know how well that worked for McCain. But at least it was funny. This one is pathetic. If Barrett thinks this is good stuff, it's another excellent reason not to vote for him.
Yea like Walker really needs 25 million to fill the air waves with his bombast? Talk about the need to buy the vote, and the amount Barrett has been able to raise just does not compare--And I agree that we should look at the motives of both types of contributors and what they want from their pols-- I do not find myself in agreement with the Koch's goals -- simple as that.
And what, precisely, are the Koch brothers goals, RV? And how, say, do they compare to George Soros' goals? or is that apples and oranges?
Forget politics (if that's possible anymore in America), consider the practical effect of Walker's success so far.
Reining in public sector unions would be a landmark change in the country, with immediate and future benefits to municipalities, schools and states.
This is way, way bigger than politics.
Any way its a Wisconsin issue and voters will get their say very shortly.
Enjoy the day.
"roesch/voltaire said...
Yea right the liberals made him a rock start just like they forced him to accept all that money from the Koch brothers, and front for ALEC"
LOL Lefties always need their "boogie man"...makes me long for the good ole "Haliburton" days.
"I havn't watched Veep because it just looks like another HBO vehicle to bash Palin."
The character in VEEP has nothing to do with Palin. For one, the character seems to be from an urban background; for another, although it's never stated, I read her (and the unnamed, unseen, often-referenced POTUS) as DEMOCRAT.
The show is about the prostitution of one's self that is required of everyone playing the power game in the beltway.
roesch/voltaire said...
Yea right the liberals made him a rock start just like they forced him to accept all that money from the Koch brothers, and front for ALEC; the Althouse apologist seem to have no shame as they play the victim card.
5/24/12 11:15 AM
Koch brothers and ALEC good: Soros and the Tide Foundation bad. THe unions and left created this nightmare for themselves and they deserve what they are going to get. Spare us the victim card crap, the only victims in this little drama are the unions and the left, victims of their own device.
"Yea like Walker really needs 25 million to fill the air waves with his bombast?"
-- He doesn't need it, but, if you can raise the money, you can spend the money. Remember when getting a $1 billion political war chest to spend on ads was a good thing?
He isn't just a rock star... he is the Guitar Man.
Nice going Dems.
http://dissidentvoice.org/2012/05/wisconsin-governor-scott-walker-is-still-unfit-for-office/
Walker's "threat" to "call out the National Guard" to force Act 10 was kinda hilarious. Does the writer know what the hell he is talking about?
He threatened the Guard to get lawmakers who ran away to get back and do their job. It's not like it was not going to pass.
And the "I thought he was a jerk in college so he isn't fit to be governor now" mentality was hilarious.
...see, because the writer comes across like an unmitigated asshole.
By the way, has anyone seen the HBO series VEEP?
One ep. Louis-Dreyfuss is still painfully unfunny.
Yea right the liberals made him a rock start just like they forced him to accept all that money from the Koch brothers, and front for ALEC; the Althouse apologist seem to have no shame as they play the victim card.
Shouldn't have started a recall you won't win.
As for taking money from the Kochs and ALEC --- better than Soros. The Kochs and ALEC never abetted Nazis.
How does it feel to know that so much of the Progressive web presence is funded by an abetter of the Nazis.
Sure he regrets it NOW --- but when it actually mattered, he was pro-Nazi.
Hilarious.
Yea like Walker really needs 25 million to fill the air waves with his bombast?
Whose fault is that? He followed laws passed by the legislature. Again, your side wanted the recall. Stop whining and crying so much.
Talk about the need to buy the vote, and the amount Barrett has been able to raise just does not compare
Being a moderately inept buffoon isn't working out well for Barrett, apparently. He's a loser and people saw that and avoided him.
Good on them.
Even the DNC won't touch him.
Also --- any concerns about Obama's buying of the 2008 election or attempt to buy the election in 2012? Why not?
I do not find myself in agreement with the Koch's goals -- simple as that.
But you are in agreement with the goals of Nazi assistant Soros. Lovely.
Some main goals of ALEC/Koch are to privatize government services, public education and to eliminate unions while working for a right to work law in all states-- I just do not agree with those goals, and can find many examples where this does not work-- for one replacing 20 to 30 dollar an hour jobs that could support a vibrant middle class with ten dollar an hour work that is leading this country into third world standards is the wrong direction, I believe.
The blog Robert Cook links to is actually hilarious. He mocks Walker for not graduating University; yet the man can't get basic grammar right. LOL.
RV: thank you explicating the goals.
for one replacing 20 to 30 dollar an hour jobs that could support a vibrant middle class
Circular. Its the middle class that is paying these PSU salaries and benefits.
Or I should say...borrowing from China to pay for these PSU salaries and benefits.
roesch/voltaire said...
Some main goals of ALEC/Koch are to privatize government services, public education and to eliminate unions while working for a right to work law in all states-- I just do not agree with those goals, and can find many examples where this does not work-- for one replacing 20 to 30 dollar an hour jobs that could support a vibrant middle class with ten dollar an hour work that is leading this country into third world standards is the wrong direction, I believe.
5/24/12 12:28 PM
I on the other hand completely agree with those goals and no I don't need public employees doing me favors with my tax money. If the job can be done by private contractors for ten dollars an hour, its a fraud and a ripoff of the taxpayers to pay more than that. What you are saying is the a lot of public employees are grossly overpaid, if they can't find comparable pay in the private sector, screw them, better my money in my pocket than having to forcibly over pay slugs.
It's beyond r/v's comprehension that a middle class that pays lower taxes for the same level of public services is thereby made more vibrant.
He joins Elena Kagan in thinking that government spending comes from some magic hat that those mean Koch brothers won't share.
"...the a lot of public employees are grossly overpaid, if they can't find comparable pay in the private sector, screw them, better my money in my pocket than having to forcibly over pay slugs."
But but but... where would all the dupes who borrowed $60k for a degree in Liberal Arts go?
Paul said (5/24/12 12:11 PM)
"He isn't just a rock star... he is the Guitar Man.
Nice going Dems."
Does he play a Gibson? They appear to have the same oppositional base.
Here in Illinois, Rahm Emanuel today has to scrounge up $50 million in parking fees--parking fees!--due to incompetent contract negotiations by Richard Daley.
So you can understand why we might think of Scott Walker as some kind of rock star. The bar set by the Democrats is just so very low.
It's a ballpark guess, R/V, but I suspect that between them, the Koch brothers have committed fewer rapes, child molestations, felonies, murders and perjuries than the majority of vermin giving money to your Little Black Jesus.
And cubanbob, I second your comment. If Romney would abolish the DOE and bust every teachers' union in the country, he'd do more for education in one fell swoop than the left has done in a hundred years.
I just do not agree with those goals, and can find many examples where this does not work-- for one replacing 20 to 30 dollar an hour jobs that could support a vibrant middle class with ten dollar an hour work that is leading this country into third world standards is the wrong direction, I believe.
RV clearly makes the case for an renewed focus on basic economics in the realm of public education.
Barrett opens up a whopping 50-47 pct. lead over Walker among public employee union households. (h/t iowahawk)
McArdle's Law addendum:
Any campaign that turns its opponent into a rock star loses.
McArdle's Law:
Any campaign running against Motherhood loses.
(I think even the original Law came into play during the debate between Hilary Rosen and Ann Romney ...)
I think the article commenter Robert Cook links can best be summed up as 'sour grapes'.
It's clearly a data point in support of the old maxim 'The A-students teach, the B-students work for the C-students...'
roesch/voltaire said...
Yea like Walker really needs 25 million to fill the air waves with his bombast? Talk about the need to buy the vote, and the amount Barrett has been able to raise just does not compare--And I agree that we should look at the motives of both types of contributors and what they want from their pols-- I do not find myself in agreement with the Koch's goals -- simple as that.
Really? Should we talk Obama and his initial pledge to limit his campaign spending only to do a '180' when he realized how much more he would have to spent without the pledge - varioud PACs, 501c/s, etc?
Obama raised close to a BILLION dollars for his campaign, an amount that far out-stripped what McCain was able to raise by staying within Federal guidelines.
And as was mentioned how do you defend Soros' et. al. money to the Dems?
Oh, that's right; you can't.
Canada has privatized its Air Traffic Control system. Ours remains in government clutches so upgrading the vital systems is not a strategic decision, it is a political plum.
So we have crappy, crappy traveling. One night I was on a flight grounded by an entire FAA computer center being down. My consolation was that Russ Feingold was on my flight.
RV, the government does very few things well. Not everything has to be a government function. Those that want it that way are hungry for power over their fellow citizens.
Bob Ellison said...
I think he really believes in the comments he posts. So...is he foolish, stupid, brainwashed, or something else?
Maybe like Scott Walker, Robert Cook is uneducated. Just like the article Cook linked to. Maybe Cook never spent a day in school. The article he linked to was stupid, and a waste of time to read.
Some main goals of ALEC/Koch are to privatize government servicespublic education and to eliminate unions while working for a right to work law in all states-- I just do not agree with those goals, and can find many examples where this does not work-- for one replacing 20 to 30 dollar an hour jobs that could support a vibrant middle class with ten dollar an hour work that is leading this country into third world standards is the wrong direction, I believe.
The HORROR!
Do you mean those $30/hr jobs that priced the American worker out of a lot of fields because it simply costs way too much to employ us?
Yes, great idea.
They think people should not be required, by law, to join a union. They feel, like FDR, that public employees should not be able to unionize. And that government services should be privatized.
Yes, indeed, one must be evil to...think differently than you.
Hell, the Democrats want to make you spend MORE money for the privilege of letting the TSA feel you up and steal your stuff.
Thank God the TSA isn't private, huh?
And by the way, Mr. Ellison, I graduated from high school. That is the extent of my education. Do you consider me to be uneducated? I'll be the author of the article that Cook linked to thinks I am.
I'll be = I'll bet.
Too bad I didn't go to college.
What many on this blog seem to ignore is while cheapening the labour of others seems like a good idea, it tends to pull all down into lower wages and benefits rather than up. While you take glee that reasonable paying manufacturing jobs were moved to China so that you can enjoy Wal-Mart crap, that meant that those displaced workers could no longer have the same buying power whether to get a new car, or take a vacation, and that means the State no longer has the same tax base.And that affects the general quality of life. I do not mind the taxes I pay to live in a beautiful, well kept up city with a solid school system. Now I understand we can have differences in our views, but I do not understand why so many bloggers on this thread revert to name calling someone who does not agree with them. I did not call anyone evil, or crazy etc, but just pointed out the goals of the Koch brothers that I do not agree with.
Except it doesn't. Many of the manufacturing jobs are done by machine, rather than being moved overseas. Moving cheap manufacture jobs overseas frees labor in the US to be lawyers, writers, engineers, managers, sales, marketing, producers, actors, programmers, designers. We import people (legal and illegal) to work as construction workers.
Humans are a social animal. We work better in groups. To the extent that productivity is increases (and the US has the highest productivity in the world) we are better off. It is foolish to assert that we would be better off if people were moved from more productive to less productive jobs.
r/v, I'd be a little bit more moved by your plea for civility if your initial comment in this thread hadn't been this:
...the Althouse apologist seem to have no shame as they play the victim card.
Accompanied by the "Koch! ALEC!" chant.
OTOH, I cannot find a single comment in this thread in which anyone reverted to name-calling against you. And surely people were tempted.
After all, what is there to say to someone who thinks that artificially propping up wages is the route to prosperity? Have you been to Detroit at any time in the last decade?
Prosperity is achieved through the acquisition of marketable skills and sustained effort. If you really want to see widespread prosperity in this country, you might want to start advocating school privatization.
Governor Walker is the Gunga Din of electoral politics. His courage under fire and his endurance of the blizzard of garbage thrown at him by the hyperventilating special interests aka "gimme more" public sector Union Bosses is inspiring. He IS a rock star, and an example that more public servants should follow. If we want fiscally responsible and responsive government that serves the people, not the special interests, we will want Walker to win.
What many on this blog seem to ignore is while cheapening the labour of others seems like a good idea, it tends to pull all down into lower wages and benefits rather than up.
Labor is a commodity like anything else in the market place and as such its value fluctuates.
What do you do for a living to speak for the working man?
I'm saddened to hear that the Governor is 'uneducated'. He probably can't speak a word of Austrian!
Anyway, what's he doing in politics? I thought 'uneducated' guys usually wound up enlisting, you know, like in the 'Marine Corpse'.
And, he's not much for inclusion, either. Why, I'm sure he made no speeches at all on the major Hispanic holiday, 'Cinquo de Quatro'.
Please, let's all make a major effort to get rid of the 'uneducated' who serve us in political office!
@ RV:
Get thee hence, thou craven, toad-spotted fustilarian! "Phu," I say! Drag thy pox-ridden wizzle after thee in shame!
Ok. At least you're right about people calling you names on this thread...
You're welcome.
That's some impressive name-calling, Chef.
r/v should feel honored.
What many on this blog seem to ignore is while cheapening the labour of others seems like a good idea, it tends to pull all down into lower wages and benefits rather than up.
Detroit says otherwise.
Very much otherwise.
There is no way to avoid outsourcing. Even if you ban American companies from outsourcing, they will just go out of business as they are undercut horribly. Or we can engage in a tariff war, which only makes problems exponentially worse.
While you take glee that reasonable paying manufacturing jobs were moved to China so that you can enjoy Wal-Mart crap, that meant that those displaced workers could no longer have the same buying power whether to get a new car, or take a vacation, and that means the State no longer has the same tax base.
...and the poor have the ability to buy necessities now that they wouldn't have had otherwise.
I do not mind the taxes I pay to live in a beautiful, well kept up city with a solid school system. Now I understand we can have differences in our views, but I do not understand why so many bloggers on this thread revert to name calling someone who does not agree with them.
Who's calling who names?
I did not call anyone evil, or crazy etc, but just pointed out the goals of the Koch brothers that I do not agree with.
Did you say it here?
No.
Is this the only post you've ever posted on?
Also no.
AllenS, Bill Gates dropped out of college.
What liberals seem to ignore is that forcing a wage to be more than a true market woudl bear means that someone ELSE gets the shaft and gets LESS than the market would have otherwise borne ... or gets nothing at all as they are unemployed. If forcing people to be paid above what the market will bear is so great, why not just pay everyone a thousand dollars an hour? Why stop there? Why not two thousand?
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