UPDATE: Blogger unpublished this post but it is a serious news story. It seems you can’t blog about a prostitute without risking being perceived as a using the blog to conduct prostitution!
UPDATE 2: I followed the procedure Blogger gave me and this post was very quickly "reinstated" (their word). I do see the need to keep Blogger from being used to conduct prostitution, and I appreciate that the review procedure is fast and easy. But I wish they'd tighten up their process at the front end!
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Sex is good. It is an important bodily function. Why are we still putting up with all this puritanism?
I was in Rio de Janeiro when a US Nimitz-class carrier with thousands of sailor abord pulled into harbor to spend a few days. It was announced that the admiral had granted them all shore leave on the condition that they not "fraternize" with the local women.
What a joke. I soon saw sailors with multiple women hanging from their arms. They didn't fraternize, they womanized.
I consider such behavior perfectly normal and desirable.
Who gets hurt? If it's the wife waiting back home, well, the Navy has no business taking in married sailors, especially considering they are paid better in housing and benefits than the single guy who should not be denied one of the chief benefits of being single: hookers.
This is nasty, obviously much worse than Colombia. And although insignificant, both the Colombian and this Brazilian woman are beautiful. I see high priced escorts in Vegas w/ old rich guys @ the craps table. Few come close to these two women. The Marines are reprehensible.
Jimbino,
No excuse anywhere anytime for anybody throwing women of whatever reputation out of moving cars.
And certainly not for embassy doormen on duty in a friendly country.
Jimbino said: Who gets hurt? If it's the wife waiting back home, well, the Navy has no business taking in married sailors, especially considering they are paid better in housing and benefits than the single guy who should not be denied one of the chief benefits of being single: hookers.
I see right through to where you're going with this and it's deplorable.
Grow the fuck up.
"Sex is good. It is an important bodily function."
Yet you're the same weirdo that repeatedly rails against "breeders" and describes fetuses as parasites...
What part of throwing a woman out of a car is "normal and desirable"? Boys will be boys, eh?
jimbino, What chickenlittle said!
Who gets hurt?
Maybe the woman thrown out of the car? That's just a guess.
What chickenlittle said. What Palladian said. What many more will say.
Who gets hurt?
Um, the prostitute who gets thrown out of a car and breaks her collarbone?
Amerikans have this weird, unnatural, puritanical thing about throwing women out of cars. What's up with that? We should be like the sophisticated Europeans, who understand that tossing sex workers from moving cars is simply the end of a perfectly wonderful evening.
Hey, you idiots:
Throwing a Brazilian woman out of a moving car is reprehensible, but the incident wouldn't have made the headlines except for all our puritan sex nonsense going down here in the USSA.
Do you think you'd be reading this if they'd thrown out a young male selling moleque?
No, Amerikans are totally messed up about sex. Fortunately, Brazilians aren't.
Perhaps I'm just being cynical; but I'd like a little more proof that a newspaper story and the word of a hooker.
No excuse anywhere anytime for anybody throwing women of whatever reputation out of moving cars.
Damn straight. You shouldn't be throwing anyone out of moving cars either, unless they are attacking you at that very moment or other special circumstance!
If you read this story and thought the problem was 'sex', you missed a few things.
Throwing a Brazilian woman out of a moving car is reprehensible, but the incident wouldn't have made the headlines except for all our puritan sex nonsense going down here in the USSA.
No, it made headlines because of the Secret Service scandal in Colombia. And that scandal had little to do with sex and more to do with potential security breaches. The only one who's focused on puritan sex nonsense is you.
No, Amerikans are totally messed up about sex. Fortunately, Brazilians aren't.
Great, another douchebag who hates "Amerikans" and lauds the greatness of others.
Great, another douchebag who hates "Amerikans" and lauds the greatness of others.
I'm calling "jimbino" a clone. He/she will self identify soon enough. Watch.
Shanna,
If this weren't about sex, why do they brand her a " prostitute" instead of just "a woman"?
And you can be damned sure no Amerikan paper would have called an simple assault victim a prostitute without some serious substantiation.
It took three Marines to toss one prostitute out of a car? Pitiful. I bet it would only take two Coast Guardsman to do the same thing.
The people who talk about Puritans are the ones who cackle with glee every time a single mother has to go on welfare or food stamps because it means not one more person, but one more generation on the welfare plantation.
PS I thought to get on embassy detail, you had to be one of the best of the Marines, like being in the Old Guard in the Army.
Or have I missed something?
If this weren't about sex, why do they brand her a " prostitute" instead of just "a woman"?
For fuck's sake, she got thrown out because of a dispute over payment. For sex. Ergo, she's a prostitute. Besides, what the fuck do you care if she's a prostitute? Aren't you the one lecturing us about sex puritanism? Are you a bot?
New event in next year's "Best Ranger" competition..'The Whore Toss'.
mdgiles said...
Perhaps I'm just being cynical; but I'd like a little more proof that a newspaper story and the word of a hooker.
With every opportunity to set the record straight, it seems like the Obama administration has been in full cover-up mode. And I'm sure the White House Counsel has "cleared" everyone in the White House of all wrong doing.
This latest incident, which happened in November last year, came to light after U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, in Brazil during a Latin American tour, was questioned about it by a Brazilian reporter during a press conference...
Speaking to reporters in Brasilia, Mr Panetta said the men were pulled from the country, two of the marines had their ranks reduced and the embassy staff member was removed from his post.
He added that the embassy had tracked Ms Ferreira down and paid for her medical expenses.
He added: 'This incident was fully investigated and all those involved were punished. They are no longer in this country. This type of behaviour is unacceptable.'
He said he had 'no tolerance for that kind of conduct. Where it takes place you can be sure that we will act to make sure that they are punished.'
Ms Ferreira, who is still recovering from her injuries, said she now intends to sue the American embassy.
Panetta: Money's on the dresser.
The Marines are reprehensible.
The Marine Corps is reprehensible? ndspinelli, did they send crying you back to mommy?
I'd like to see the breakdown of the SS guards and those Embassy marines as to marital status.
I'll bet a dollar to a donut that the major offenders were married.
I fell into company with a huge group of Amerikan redneck tobacco buyers in Santa Cruz, Brazil, who were down there for their annual trip to buy tobacco. They had a Brazilian cathouse on retainer and one night took me along for drinking, dancing and womanizing (a sadly lost experience that I'd only seen in US Westerns,) and every one of the guys who opted for the sex was married.
I still wonder why married guys are usually the biggest horndogs. It's probably that they are so eager to have some good sex without first having to "relate" and without all the pentelinhos running around. Or is it just an Amerikan male problem. Poor things!
Panetta: Money's on the dresser.
No no no, Panetta's a pimp, not a john.
I always thought the Ugly American abroad was a myth or at least an inaccurate stereotype. Guess I was wrong.
Amerikan male problem.
Dude, seriously. You are clearly too obsessed with the sex thing. No one here is talking about that, and yet you keep going on and on. There are people who can help you out with that.
..but the incident wouldn't have made the headlines except for all our puritan sex nonsense going down here in the USSA.
The US is the #1 producer of sex entertainment material in the planet.. If what you claim were true this would not be the case.
Furthermore, it's a joke that Panetta paid for the hooker's medical care.
Medical care is free in Brazil, though of course you can pay for VIP care. I think the poor woman went to a clinic or emergency room and was treated without charge,well before Panetta ever found her, same as I am treated when I'm in Brazil, and I'm neither a citizen nor permanent resident there.
The leadership of our country speaks nothing but lies and knows nothing but cover-up of unending sins against foreigners of all stripes, it seems. That fact and the rampant puritism here provide sufficient reason to move to Brazil for good.
The secret that nobody will admit is that excessive illicit sexual activity deadens your emotions so that you can't care about another person.
You feel nothing for them.
You only feel physical lust.
So out the car they go.
Here's a primer in Amerikan Puritanism for those poor souls among you who haven't yet managed to get out to visit a civilized country:
1. The age of consent to sex (homo or hetero) in Brazil is 14, and even younger if the pair is close in age. In Amerika, it is 18.
2. In Brazil, the largest Roman Catholic country in the world, condoms are made freely available to all schoolkids starting at 11 years old, by government mandate. In Amerika, if you just show an 11-yr-old a magic balloon, you will be lifelong branded a sex-offender.
3. Prostitution is legal in Brazil. In Amerika, you can be arrested for even thinking about it.
4. A liter of hard liquor (cachaça 51) that costs $2 in Brazil costs $22 here in Texas. In Brazil, you can buy and drink booze anywhere 24/7. In Texas you can't buy beer on Sunday morning or any day after midnight, and you may have to drive hundreds of thirsty miles through dry Texas counties trying to get from Louisiana to another civilized state.
5. Most all Brazilian women wear bikinis that will get you arrested on a Florida beach.
But, was it the BFE?
My brother broke his collar bone by sliding down the giraffe's neck. A tall slide in the shape of a giraffe. Drinking water or something. Liberties were taken with the giraffe representation. It didn't look exactly real but yellow with brown blotches and the general shape conveyed the idea nicely.
The giraffe slide belonged to a girl who lived in the house next to my grandmother in Bethlehem Pennsylvania. From my point of view as a kindergardener, Bethlehem Pennsylvania was notable for being Grandma's town, the place where Jesus was born, and the place with house that has the awesome slide. Their whole back yard was awesome.
I wanted to slide that slide so bad but never did.
And then my brother does and breaks his collar bone, and I didn't even know collars had bones. It was all so tragic.
Wait. He fell of a bike. It didn't have anything to do with giraffe slide. Sorry. I guess I'm still obsessed with the slide.
LarsPorsena said...
New event in next year's "Best Ranger" competition..'The Whore Toss'.
No, on this one, the Army is far more elite than the Marines.
jimbino said...
In Brazil, the largest Roman Catholic country in the world
No, it's the largest cafeteria Catholic country in the world.
Clearly, jimbino should go there and stay there. He clearly hates it here.
Yo Quayle,
Please define your "excessive illicit sexual activity."
And do you think it might be different in Colombia or Brazil?
You are five times more likely to be killed in Brazil..
I don't know about you but I'm not that desperate.
Maybe once Michelle Obama's black gay bodyguard finishes purging the Secret Service of legal but gross "heteronormative behaviors" the dumb family values conservatives backing her power play will want her in charge of purging the Armed Forces of soldiers who drink, gamble, use prostitutes, make friends overseas, or have religious beliefs Paula Reid objects to.
She might be helped by adding Rick Santorum to those who will help fire those deemed of moral turpitude. Saint Torum could help weed State Dept or Congressional staffs out of those who offend Frothy Rick's morals.
It is a new day in America where scowling lesbian feminists march arm in arm with the moral redeemers of the Religious Right cheering every termination of morally weak white males. ....
Now what about the gay vermin inside the Federal Government that have gay lovers overseas they give gifts to??
Maybe once Michelle Obama's black gay bodyguard finishes purging the Secret Service of legal but gross "heteronormative behaviors" the dumb family values conservatives backing her power play will want her in charge of purging the Armed Forces of soldiers who drink, gamble, use prostitutes, make friends overseas, or have religious beliefs Paula Reid objects to.
She might be helped by adding Rick Santorum to those who will help fire those deemed of moral turpitude. Saint Torum could help weed State Dept or Congressional staffs out of those who offend Frothy Rick's morals.
It is a new day in America where scowling lesbian feminists march arm in arm with the moral redeemers of the Religious Right cheering every termination of morally weak white males. ....
Now what about the gay vermin inside the Federal Government that have gay lovers overseas they give gifts to??
jimbino sounds like he needs to get laid.
What awful behavior, if true. I agree with Quayle.
@jimbino/cedarford,
Would you two mind explaining why you're both so fucking stupid you don't know the meaning of the word "discretion" and why it might be an important concept for members of our government stationed overseas?
You harp & harp on your "boy will be boys" nonsense. Yeah, we get it!
But if someone is so dimwitted that he can't keep his illicit private life private, then he's an embarrassment and he can't be a good representative of the US abroad.
Why is this such a difficult concept for you both? The rest of the world seems to grasp it pretty much intuitively.
Oooops, never mind...we decided that making gay behaviors like Congressional staffers going on boy sex tours to Thailand a firing offense - that we actually open gays up to blackmail and subversion by foreign agents that can use the threat of firing to blackmail them.
But it will be different if we leave gays out of it and just seek to fire any heterosexual in the military, FBI, Secret Service, diplomat corps known by Paula Reid or suspected by her..of paying to use their evil penises on willing and legal women abroad.
So there is no such thing as gay vermin of vices that need to be fired. Just heterosexual vermin.
It is stuff like this that buttresses the notion that the Religious Righters cheering Paula Reid on are a little deficient in the brains department. Rejection of evolution, mandatory vaginal probes to get an abortion, glorification of the TSA Heroes Who Keep Us All Safe, suspicion of those with college degrees, glorification of Zionism? The notion that Sarah Palin's foreign policy ignorance made her even more authentic and adorable?
Those don't help alter the perception that social values conservatives aren't a little mentally stunted either.
Cedarford wrote: She might be helped by adding Rick Santorum to those who will help fire those deemed of moral turpitude. Saint Torum could help weed State Dept or Congressional staffs out of those who offend Frothy Rick's morals.
You can stop now Cedarford-- Santorum is history this election cycle. Save all that personal animus for next time around or something. You're starting to show more tells than a grade schooler.
Yo YoungHegelian,
What is "illicit" about sex?
Does "discretion" refer to picking out the cutest hooker or to abstaining from marriage altogether?
Have you figured out yet that "boys will be boys" is no longer valid in Amerika? Here boys are turned into men the instant alimony and child support kick in, which happens early in life.
You think that Puritan Amerikans make "good representatives of the US abroad"?
@cedarford,
Stop frothing about every aspect of modern conservatism you don't like and stick to the topic!
Do you understand that the first responsibility of any government employee overseas is not to do anything that reflects badly on the United States or its government? That one wrong move by one staffer that undue years of good by everyone else?
Yes or No?
If the answer is yes, then yours and jimbino's rants are misplaced. If No, then you two have no business ever representing the US in any fashion.
Nothing is more admirable than going to a foreign country as a representative of the US, fucking some prostitutes, and then throwing them out of the car. Come on, people! We need France or Venezuela's admiration!
YoungHegelian said...
@jimbino/cedarford,
Would you two mind explaining why you're both so fucking stupid you don't know the meaning of the word "discretion" and why it might be an important concept for members of our government stationed overseas?
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Because we are not stupid. Paula Reids dumb conservative catspaws are the ones that are stupid.
Because only 1 Secret Service agent was truly indiscrete...Paula Reid..as an insider..was able to use her insider knowledge to put together a witch hunt on 21 other discrete SS and military people and try to wreck their "hetereonormative lives".
As Jimbino said US Navy port calls in Rio de Janero anyone?? Any organization can have internal babushkas, informants in place to weed out not just the indiscrete, but the discrete.
The Soviets were interested in eliminating not just the open critics of Stalin, but the ones the babushkas in the neighborhoods could ferret out. The FBI in the 50s and 60s staked out "known homosexual clubs" to flag even discrete "deviants" and especially those homos that "fraternized with foreigners and boy hustlers".
The goal of Paula Reid is to gain further professional advancement by chopping off heads of discrete as well as indiscrete "penis-wielders". And brain-dead conservatives are cheering her every firing and demanding new "moral purges in the military".
Reid is just an evil backstabbing bitch...but her conservative allies are the morons.
jimbino, I'm still puzzled why you think sex is so wonderfully natural and normal, and yet the natural consequence of heterosexual sex, procreation and children, is so distasteful and abhorrent (abwhorent?).
I'm beginning to think that there's a cheap foreign hooker, a white hispanic child, and a paternity and child support lawsuit lurking somewhere in jimbinoland!
@jinbino,
The SS in Colombia failed in their job. They made the President an object of ridicule.
I know you probably can't grasp that dimension of foreign policy because it doesn't involve important things like where you get to put your cock & how often you can get smashed, but, yet there it is. Strangely, the rest of the world seems to value it.
Maybe they was jes' practicing throwing her under the bus, Obama-style.
..a white hispanic..
Hey..thats the future of the NRA you talking about..
Panetta said that the Marines had been punished [although they were rushed out of the country before Brazil could arrest them]. Meanwhile, a Marine who expressed his disdain for Obama has just been given a less-than-honorable discharge for that.
It would be interesting to know how the Brazil-incident Marines have been "punished" in order to better
understand the value system of the Marines.
YoungHegelian and Palladian need to explain why drinking and sex "reflect badly on the United States or its government."
I can see how they might reflect badly on a Puritan government, which is my point. Anyway, why the hell should any Amerikan here or overseas go out of his way to advance the cause of a Puritan government? I always thought it the duty of a true Amerikan to get rid of the Puritans--like the British had the good sense to do.
Dense.
YoungHegelian,
It's a hoot to think that at this point we'd have to depend on SS guards in Colombia to "make the President an object of ridicule."
So we are "ugly Americans" under the Obama regime.
YoungHegelian said...
@jinbino,
The SS in Colombia failed in their job. They made the President an object of ridicule.
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No, Paula Reid's power thirsty witch hunt to expand the scandal past the one indscreet agent to 22 others made the US an object of ridicule.
After the Gulf War and Tailhook, I met with a British colleague that said the Royal AF had calculated that the cost to US taxpayers of replacing the pilots lost in that witch hunt exceeded 160 million dollars.
"Nice you Yanks have that sort of money to throw around!".
And since I was privy to AF security reports in a war zone...I think that at any given point we could have eliminated 1/3rd of the personnel at Incirlik by "going by the book" and going after discrete and indiscrete acts that could discredit America if a Paula Reid had contacted the media and made a huge deal of it.
If we go with new teams of internal informants and spies..we might be able to purge a quarter of the US Congressional staff, a quarter of the diplomatic corps, and half the US Navy, maybe a 1/3rd of our Marine Corps.
And will the moral show trials help morale of the survivors still around after the Paula Reids and babushkas are done? Or help recruiting?
I mean, there are just so many mormons, black lesbians with axes to grind against men, and Rick Santorum like characters...How to you have a Navy, a diplomat corps, a healthy Marine recruit pool to draw from when feminists and social conservatives alike slaver for trials for those caught drinking, frolicking with prostitutes in countries where it is legal?
Watch your talk, Alex, or you might be targeted by a drone, or waterboarded or subject to "extraordinary rendition."
Cedarford,
I fail to see how the SS guards in Colombia failed in their jobs. The President started out alive, healthy and an "object of ridicule" and emerged unscathed.
It could be that jimbino is confusing hypocrisy with puritanism.
We choose to keep sex private.. more private rather than less.
NYT Sunday Mag 2001
Under a Hollywood dateline, the show-biz trade paper reported that the adult-video business ''saw record revenues last year'' of some $4.2 billion in rentals and sales.
Mind you that was before the parodies boom.
The $4 billion that Americans spend (2001) on video pornography is larger than the annual revenue accrued by either the N.F.L., the N.B.A. or Major League Baseball. But that's literally not the half of it: the porn business is estimated to total between $10 billion and $14 billion annually in the United States when you toss in porn networks and pay-per-view movies on cable and satellite, Internet Web sites, in-room hotel movies, phone sex, sex toys and that archaic medium of my own occasionally misspent youth, magazines.
Its more complicated than the "puritan" label jimbino stamping it with.
Analog sex is indiscrete.
Have I been spelling discreet wrong?
How to you have a Navy, a diplomat corps, a healthy Marine recruit pool to draw from when feminists and social conservatives alike slaver for trials for those caught drinking, frolicking with prostitutes in countries where it is legal?
By publicizing them in the age of the internet, that's how. The public will not stand for witch hunts. You paint Paula Reid as an up and coming J. Edgar Hoover.
Your gratuitous swipe at "mormons" was interesting. I can't wait to read your "How Romney Lost Me" screed.
I don't think it's a grotesque moral failing to patronize a prostitute. But is it all that difficult to negotiate a service and a price without triggering an international incident? Those marines were stupid, cruel, and clumsy. They deserve worse punishment than a loss of rank.
Lem,
Hawthorne's Scarlet Letter will teach you enough about Puritan hypocrisy.
Yes, sex, like pissing and crapping, is best done in private. But why the hell does our Puritan gummint single out private sex with hookers for condemnation?
Somebody remind jimbino that civilized, sexy Brasil has the highest HIV rate in Latin Amerika and about 15% of adolescents have some venereal disease.
Puritans are healthier, it would seem.
Darcy, Discrete or discreet are both correct. Now, discreetly avert your eyes while idiots like jimbino talk about women. They are obviously motherless children.
This is a nasty story. And the fact that there were three men involved leads me to think some very bad things probably preceded the incident in the car. Bad business all around.
Edutcher,
When you say that "civilized, sexy Brasil has the highest HIV rate in Latin Amerika and about 15% of adolescents have some venereal disease," do you understand "HIV rate" to be rate "per person," "per year," or "per hour of orgasm"?
Yes, Brazil, being a tropical country, has lots of viral, bacterial and parasite infections that even an up-tight Amerikan RC priest can easily pick up there.
It's not unusual to contract bicho de pé, dengue, malaria, yellow fever, hepatitis A, amoebiasis, and various helminths--all pretty unknown here in the USSA.
Teddy Roosevelt and his son Kermit almost died of them. You won't have to worry though--you will pick up no STDs and no tropical illnesses while you continue to sit at your computer blogging nonsense.
But if, in fact, you return to the USSA from travel on a beach or rainforest in Brazil, the clinic you go to won't even recognize the disease--another reason not to subscribe to Obamacare in the USSA.
Remember this is all happening under the rubric of the Obama dictatorship.
jimbino said...
When you say that "civilized, sexy Brasil has the highest HIV rate in Latin Amerika and about 15% of adolescents have some venereal disease," do you understand "HIV rate" to be rate "per person," "per year," or "per hour of orgasm"?
Notice he ducks the issue.
Surprise!
And apparently jimbino hasn't heard that you don't have to leave the country to have sex; in fact, stats show all us up-tight Puritans have more sex, better sex, and happier sex than the sexually frustrated Lefties who are trying so hard to sound sophisticated.
PS STD rate per hour of orgasm?
Cute.
Last I looked we have the same rate as anybody else.
Also the best health care in the world and probably light years ahead of Lefty Brasil, which is the place where the clinics can't tell the diseases without an American doctor.
PPS Some phony folksy/shiloh/36fsfiend is letting the mask slip again.
chickenlittle -
"By publicizing them in the age of the internet, that's how. The public will not stand for witch hunts. You paint Paula Reid as an up and coming J. Edgar Hoover.
Your gratuitous swipe at "mormons" was interesting. I can't wait to read your "How Romney Lost Me" screed."
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No, I have nothing against squeaky clean Mormons or the extreme Catholics that J Edgar Hoover preferred to select from ranks of lawyers and accountants. Over recruiting actual high-performing but "morally tainted" detectives from police forces, or those with serious street knowledge of crooked criminal enterprises - which led to "Hoovers Boy Scouts"..An organization that was obsessed with appearances - and singularly ineffective against organized crime, major tax cheaters, and most espionage activities. Culturally and in everyday experience and acquaintances - Hoovers Boy Scouts were light years away from being able to understand such targets and their modus operandi.
They were hell on wheels though, on bank robbers, kidnappers, and in ferreting out the designated "sexual deviants" of the 50s and 60s inside government and the civil rights movement.
My point is there is no potential recruiting pool - of fine in and of themselves Mormons, black lesbians, and Opus Dei Santorum wannabes IS BIG ENOUGH to staff the US government and US military entirely.
And unfortunately, a big chunk of the religious right and Zero Tolerance conservatives - in failing to see Paula Reids power ploy for what it is - really are too stupid to trust in critical positions in the US military, Secret Service, Presidential and Congressional staffs.
Discrete or discreet are both correct
But they mean different things.
Discrete is the mathematical term. The intervals between the discrete changes go to zero, then the discrete becomes continuous.
Discreet is what you want your prostitute-using marines to be.
" too stupid to trust in critical positions in the US military, Secret Service"
Right, they don't have C-fudd's cosmopolitan tolerance for the people guarding the POTUS to get involved in unsavory hooker "honey trap" scandals bwahahahaha.
Oh come on people, this was just a few knuckleheads!
Oh, and you know what they say about knuckleheads? They often use their knuckles!
Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk, Nyuk!
Isn't this Obama Administration a laugh a minute!?
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