You have no option for a believer in your survey as "so they say" ruins the best one. The day of Christmas was chosen, not because Dec 25th was the most likely day of Jesus' birth but because that day fit best at the beginning of the liturgical year. Christmas is celebrated because of St Francis.
Christians believe in an invasion of the human race by a new man who is the eternal Son of God, and still becomes totally human. That tradition needs to emphasize Jesus' natural pregnancy, birth into a normal family ( one that had no idol worship infection), and learned obedience by what he suffered.
That is celebrated as a gift of God's love and joyfully received.
But to unbelievers, all of that is silly nonsense. Who could believe that there is a New Man that lives in us and we in Him?
Look, there's Jason saying "because it's fun" should be an option. I could have tried harder to compress "because it's fun" into the first option.
Have some empathy. Making options on a poll isn't easy. There's always somebody saying there's another way of putting it that should have been added as an independent option, and now here you are saying an option needed to be broken into 2 options so that you weren't put in the position of having to vote for something you want to disavow.
The only comment I agree with, so far, is Mike Haz's simple "Merry Christmas." Jason and Paddy O's thinking on the subject is shallow. CR Krieger and Dave pick a fight. Tg is Tg, which is admirable, but still.
I say we celebrate Christmas because that's what we do. Fuck the pagans, and the Romans, and the Christians. I was born in 1961, not 61BC or 16AD - and I could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do. You're all bonkers.
So I'm with Mike Haz:
"Merry Christmas," you fucking fruitcakes. You're the masters of your own madness. Own it.
I love Christmas! But the spirit of Christmas is how we trust and respect others. The NYT story about Mitt Romney and his family at Harvard Business School is excellent example. Of course, the GOP will not be able to read the story - it is invisible.
What we choose to see in Christmas is what we want to see. We want to see Newt as the POTUS, it is unthinkable. We want to see Perry as V-POTUS, it is unthinkable. But, we live in a real world. The GOP lives in a virtual world. So, they see what we do not see.
Oh well...Aloha from Hawaii. It is beginning to look like Christmas - I mean, I will have a corner office after the re-election.
...and I could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do.
Wow Crack I thought you knew more about this stuff than to say that. Catholics believe the creation stories are symbolic, and there's nothing in evolutionary theory that conflicts with Catholicism. You just can't posit evolution absent God.
I posted a lot about this here in the comments to another thread with quotes from the catechism...I guess it was a couple years ago.
The Crack Emcee: Jason and Paddy O's thinking on the subject is shallow.
So? Since at the least the 1965 Charlie Brown Christmas Special, people have been whining about "the true meaning of Christmas". I don't by it. Why does celebration have to be cerebral and heavy? Celebration can be happy, fun, and joyous.
But some people have to make a big thing about how serious they are, about how much more Christian they are than everyone else. Bah humbug to that! We do say MERRY Christmas after all.
The secularists may be having a war on Christmas, but the Christians seem to be having a war on Merry.
Althouse: Look, there's Jason saying "because it's fun" should be an option. I could have tried harder to compress "because it's fun" into the first option.
"Fun" and "tradition" are two entirely separate things. The Japanese don't hang up Christmas decorations because it's traditional.
Wow Crack I thought you knew more about this stuff than to say that. Catholics believe the creation stories are symbolic, and there's nothing in evolutionary theory that conflicts with Catholicism. You just can't posit evolution absent God.
What the fuck do I care what the Catholic church says?
Wow - I just got my first Christmas present left on my doorstep, and I swear, this is not a joke:
$120 somebody owed me.
A can of corn, a large can of maple and brown sugar pork & beans, and a box of dry spaghetti, and three DVDs of porn, including Heavy Handfulls - REAL BIG TITS!
What the fuck do I care what the Catholic church says?
Well Crack, it seemed that you do since you posted "...could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do."
But anyway, whether you do or not, Merry Christmas!
Another day goes by and still the children cry Put a little love in your heart Put a little love in your heart Put a little love in your heart... Feed me, Seymour. Feed me!
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49 comments:
Yes, because it's fun.
As if you need to appeal to religion or tradition!
Soon many Christians began to join in this pagan festival and the various celebrations that went with it.
Why? Because it was fun. That's the true meaning of Christmas!
"Yes, because it's the day Christ was born (or so they say)."
We didn't need the parenthetical part.
Merry Christmas!
Regards — Cliff
You have no option for a believer in your survey as "so they say" ruins the best one. The day of Christmas was chosen, not because Dec 25th was the most likely day of Jesus' birth but because that day fit best at the beginning of the liturgical year. Christmas is celebrated because of St Francis.
Christians believe in an invasion of the human race by a new man who is the eternal Son of God, and still becomes totally human. That tradition needs to emphasize Jesus' natural pregnancy, birth into a normal family ( one that had no idol worship infection), and learned obedience by what he suffered.
That is celebrated as a gift of God's love and joyfully received.
But to unbelievers, all of that is silly nonsense. Who could believe that there is a New Man that lives in us and we in Him?
My only comment today is to wish all a very, very Merry Christmas.
"We didn't need the parenthetical part."
What is the basis for certainty that December 25th is the actual date of birth? It's not in the Bible. Does the Pope even think that?
The parenthetical was to compress the options.
Look, there's Jason saying "because it's fun" should be an option. I could have tried harder to compress "because it's fun" into the first option.
Have some empathy. Making options on a poll isn't easy. There's always somebody saying there's another way of putting it that should have been added as an independent option, and now here you are saying an option needed to be broken into 2 options so that you weren't put in the position of having to vote for something you want to disavow.
Because it's fun!!
Merry Christmas, Meadhouse!
The only comment I agree with, so far, is Mike Haz's simple "Merry Christmas." Jason and Paddy O's thinking on the subject is shallow. CR Krieger and Dave pick a fight. Tg is Tg, which is admirable, but still.
I say we celebrate Christmas because that's what we do. Fuck the pagans, and the Romans, and the Christians. I was born in 1961, not 61BC or 16AD - and I could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do. You're all bonkers.
So I'm with Mike Haz:
"Merry Christmas," you fucking fruitcakes. You're the masters of your own madness. Own it.
Whatever you people decide, I'm still not sharing my tamales.
Oh, and to Jason and Paddy O:
"Girls just want to have fun,..."
I love Christmas! But the spirit of Christmas is how we trust and respect others. The NYT story about Mitt Romney and his family at Harvard Business School is excellent example. Of course, the GOP will not be able to read the story - it is invisible.
What we choose to see in Christmas is what we want to see. We want to see Newt as the POTUS, it is unthinkable. We want to see Perry as V-POTUS, it is unthinkable. But, we live in a real world. The GOP lives in a virtual world. So, they see what we do not see.
Oh well...Aloha from Hawaii. It is beginning to look like Christmas - I mean, I will have a corner office after the re-election.
Christmas is the day I get to be shallow.
Be merry! Have a great day! Be with friends and family, don't think too much. Celebrate each other and rest from all life's cares on this day.
Merry Christmas indeed!
"The only comment I agree with, so far, is Mike Haz's simple "Merry Christmas." ..."
LOL... because you go on to say a whole lot of other things.
Ann,
Yeah, but I haven't had my coffee,...
Merry Christmas, Ann!
Merry Christmas everyone!
Merry Christmas, Crack.
...and I could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do.
Wow Crack I thought you knew more about this stuff than to say that. Catholics believe the creation stories are symbolic, and there's nothing in evolutionary theory that conflicts with Catholicism. You just can't posit evolution absent God.
I posted a lot about this here in the comments to another thread with quotes from the catechism...I guess it was a couple years ago.
Not for all is a merry Xmas
http://www.abc.es/20111225/internacional/abci-explota-bomba-iglesia-nigeria-201112251109.html
Stevie Wonder, the lost blind dog, reunited w/ family for Christmas. Awww!
So I'm with Mike Haz:
"Merry Christmas," you fucking fruitcakes. You're the masters of your own madness. Own it.
Crack - please delete that. I neither said nor meant "Merry Christmas" in the way you have distorted it by your comment.
What Jason said.
""Girls just want to have fun,...""
That was said by a woman; why would you incorporate that into your manligion?
Merry Christmas, sucka!
Crack:
Everyone knows the baby Jesus rode a dinosaur to his first day of preschool. That's what I was taught.
The Crack Emcee: Jason and Paddy O's thinking on the subject is shallow.
So? Since at the least the 1965 Charlie Brown Christmas Special, people have been whining about "the true meaning of Christmas". I don't by it. Why does celebration have to be cerebral and heavy? Celebration can be happy, fun, and joyous.
But some people have to make a big thing about how serious they are, about how much more Christian they are than everyone else. Bah humbug to that! We do say MERRY Christmas after all.
The secularists may be having a war on Christmas, but the Christians seem to be having a war on Merry.
Merry Merry Merry Christmas. (And Happy Holidays!)
You left off the "Yes, because it pisses off atheists" choice.
Looks like we already have a winner for this poll.
Peter
Althouse: Look, there's Jason saying "because it's fun" should be an option. I could have tried harder to compress "because it's fun" into the first option.
"Fun" and "tradition" are two entirely separate things. The Japanese don't hang up Christmas decorations because it's traditional.
Merry Christmas to all!
To me its fun, family, friends, and food, not necessarily in that order.
And AP don't order the drapes for your new office yet.
Too bad we can't check both boxes, tradition and Christ's birth day.
Merry Christmas All!
Michael Haz - I will not delete it. I meant "Merry Christmas" just the way you presented it, but my further thoughts are my own.
Merry Christmas, Y'all!!!
DaveW,
Wow Crack I thought you knew more about this stuff than to say that. Catholics believe the creation stories are symbolic, and there's nothing in evolutionary theory that conflicts with Catholicism. You just can't posit evolution absent God.
What the fuck do I care what the Catholic church says?
deborah said...
""Girls just want to have fun,...""
That was said by a woman; why would you incorporate that into your manligion?
Merry Christmas, sucka!
Yeah - it was said by a woman and I agree with it, lightheaded bitches.
Merry Christmas, Y'all!!!
ROTFLMAO!!!!
Repeat post:
Wow - I just got my first Christmas present left on my doorstep, and I swear, this is not a joke:
$120 somebody owed me.
A can of corn, a large can of maple and brown sugar pork & beans, and a box of dry spaghetti, and three DVDs of porn, including Heavy Handfulls - REAL BIG TITS!
Oh man, it's so nice to be loved,...
Merry Christmas, Y'all!!!
Went for #2 because 78% of Americans are some kind of Christian.
Merry Christmas, garage.
A porno DVD for Christmas on your front porch, but they didn't want to hang around for dinner??
Maybe your convictions are getting in the way of your relationships?
What the fuck do I care what the Catholic church says?
Well Crack, it seemed that you do since you posted "...could give a fuck what you believe about the history of the world if it doesn't include dinosaurs - which none of your belief systems do."
But anyway, whether you do or not, Merry Christmas!
No, because we're Jewish. (And please don't try to draw me in with this Happy Holidays nonsense.)
The Grinch
Another day goes by and still the children cry
Put a little love in your heart
Put a little love in your heart
Put a little love in your heart...
Feed me, Seymour. Feed me!
"My only comment today is to wish all a very, very Merry Christmas."
Me to Michael. And pray the world finds peace.
Not trying to start a fight, just get a clear choice.
Regards — Cliff
I say celebrate Christmas in August.
"I say celebrate Christmas in August."
Or you could move to the Southern Hemisphere.
That's my plan.
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