Now, move on, people. It's no. NOOOOO!
Or... oh... wait... a ray of hope....
Two sources said he has started informing people of his decision in advance of his Trenton press conference.
October 4, 2011
Christie says NO.
Nooooo!
Now, move on, people. It's no. NOOOOO!
Or... oh... wait... a ray of hope....
Now, move on, people. It's no. NOOOOO!
Or... oh... wait... a ray of hope....
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Good. He let it float just long enough to out the anti-fat amongst the commenteratti.
I was really looking forward to making a comment about how he was a totally unserious joke of a candidate if he ran.
It's the smart move. Christie can be more effective right where he is. Plus, if the O does happen to win reelection, Christie is positioned to be a tier one candidate the next time out.
You are correct, sideways hat wearing guy. He is much too much of a socialist, even for a leftist like you.
On the sidebar it says Ed Koch is meeting with Herman Cain.
Since when did that old queen become a destination for the republicans to meet?
He will probably lose a few hundred pounds between now and 2016 and then run.. he needs to run but not this run.
"Andy R. said...
I was really looking forward to making a comment about how he was a totally unserious joke of a candidate if he ran."
and I was really looking forward to making a comment about what a joke you are if you made one.
Oh, well, we won't have Christie, but we will still have you.
I think we already have enough east coast RINOs in the field. What would Christie have brought that we don't already have?
Hey, Andy, how did that Occupy Wall Street thing go? Did you guys win your $20/hr minimum wage for all, including the unemployed?
Most likely somebody has something on him that will come out if he runs.
Bummer that the Candidates that inside-the-beltway PowerBrokers yearn for keep saying no.
The Vanity Candidacy is coming to an end?
Now, move on, people. It's no. NOOOOO!
Sure he didn't say, "MOOOO"?
I'm at MSNBC all week!
Smart. He'd have no time to put together an organization, especially if the primaries move up a month.
Andy R. said...
I was really looking forward to making a comment about how he was a totally unserious joke of a candidate if he ran.
This coming from a totally unserious joke of a commenter.
It is hard to woo a fattie some times.
Do they have to perform cunnilingus on Koch when they meet him?
Looks like that leaves Romney/Cain 2012. I could vote for that.
Actually, I would vote for a random name from the phone book over what we have now.
Looks like the shocking meat video did Christie in.
I'm happy to go on record to say that Romney is the only current candidate that stands a chance of getting the nomination and all the other Republicans are totally unserious joke candidates.
I guess we'll see what happens.
Good. He has yet to finish one term as Governor, and the Dems will have filed all the best attacks of 'inexperience' against Obama, to recycle against Christie and Palin.
Should he continue well as Governor, he'll be a force to be reckoned with in future. And New Jersey should be damn grateful he's staying on.
It is hard to woo a fattie some times.
You don't think the rubber chicken circuit entices?
Looks like that leaves Romney/Cain 2012. I could vote for that.
I can see Cain as a VP rather than Presidential candidate. He would be very effective in that role.
Actually, I would vote for a random name from the phone book over what we have now.
Ditto. I am for ABO Anybody But Obama.
Christie would be very useful as a supporter of the Republican candidate no matter who it is. As an extemporaneous speaker, Christie has no competition. The man is great as a speaker and in fielding jabs from the audience or biased interviewers. Christie would never have been caught in that verbal trap laid by the media....as Cain was.
The best use of Christie by the Republicans would be to have him on the stump, speaking and throwing his weight behind the candidates. (sorry, couldn't help myself)
Andy R. wrote...
"I guess we'll see what happens."
Profound. One thing we know won't happen is you learning how to dress yourself properly.
Probably couldn't find President Taft's old tub in the basement of the White House, so no deal.
Andy R, I'm thrilled you've gone on record with that observation. I mean, if it were off the record, and I might need to cite the opinion of a sideways-hat-wearing, smirking shit-head socialist barista/college student on conservative realpolitik, then I'd have to see if I could pin you down to go "on the record" with your deep analysis.
Sideways hat?
Oh. I thought that was just the shape of his head, or maybe the remnant of a conjoined twin.
So does anyone want to say they think Bachmann is going to get the nomination? Or Cain? Or Perry?
Who do you people think is the credible alternative to Romney?
Christi was a vote splitter to eat into the Romney Rino support.
Neither of those two men are Conservatives. Wall Street businessmen are just as liberal as rhey can be whether they are in the GOP or the Dem wing. Nelson Rockefeller was always Reagan's opponent
Now conservative eyes turn again to Herman Cain.
So who is this Cain guy?
He is a genuine friend of higher class southern white culture who has seen how a well run large business works from Coca Cola through Pillsbury.
And he is my friend too.
So does anyone want to say they think Bachmann is going to get the nomination? Or Cain? Or Perry?
Bachmann, not a chance. The other two? Who knows? A lot can happen between now at the convention. You're acting like each candidate should be called out as the nominee based on their own merit. You're completely forgetting that other candidates can implode or otherwise commit hari-kari. Likewise, something can happen in the life or vicinity of a marginal candidate that can catapult one into vying for front-runner. I'm not suggesting a Bill Shatner save-someone-from-drowning, but you get my meaning.
You're looking at this too simplistically, for the abridged version.
You know Mittens is doing the crazy Mormon Newsweek dance
Who are you calling "you people", asshole? Scratch a liberal and find a hate-filled communist, I swear.
Can we not get our hopes up for a politician with 2 years in office?
I mean, what did it do to us last time?
I'm not surprised.
Bachmann's run out of money, if what I read yesterday is to be believed. She served her purpose -- which was to marginalize Pawlenty.
Bachmann, not a chance.
There have been threads about Bachmann on this site before, and I rolled in and said she was a total joke and people who thought she would be a good candidate (not to mention President) were crazy. Mostly because she is crazy.
But people defended here. And like here. Apparently genuinely. And they attacked me for saying she was a total joke. It's hard for me to wrap my head around that. She doesn't seem to be doing so well, anyway.
Who are you calling "you people", asshole? Scratch a liberal and find a hate-filled communist, I swear.
What?
Dust Bunny Queen said...
Ditto. I am for ABO Anybody But Obama.
This time next year, that's going to be a club of about 250,000,000 people.
Andy R. said...
So does anyone want to say they think Bachmann is going to get the nomination? Or Cain? Or Perry?
Cain, obviously, is doing much better and the base clearly prefers him to Milton.
And Cain's comeback shows Perry can do it, as well, although whether it happens remains to be seen.
Somebody tell Hatman, though, his Little Zero is still gonna lose.
Christie isn't going to run... as a Republican. He's going to run against Obama in the primaries as a Democrat.
Just watch, you'll see.
Sixty, I'm scratching my head re. your offense at Andy's use of "you people." I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he means "those of you who participate on this blog."
Sometimes a "you people" is just a "you people."
Mostly because she is crazy.
She is most certainly not crazy. In-depth political analysis doesn't appear to be your strong suite.
But people defended here. And like [her]. Apparently genuinely.
So what? At the outset people were willing to listen to her and see what she had to say. As ABO as I am now, when he won, I was willing to accept it and see what he had to say. Turned out to be quite a bit...and not much else.
You seem to be indicting a lot of people for given an accomplished woman a chance at higher office. What does that say about you?
Andy R(acist) wrote:
"It's hard for me to wrap my head around that."
Clearly you have a lot of difficulties in the head wrapping department.
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure he means "those of you who participate on this blog."
Of course. How else would you even interpret that comment?
You people need to cool your shit with the you people or those people will get irritated at you people.
Herman Cain looks better every day.
"...and I rolled in and said she was a total joke..."
Sounds like any rejoinder spoken by one of my high-school age kids.
Not a compelling way to make your case against a given candidate.
So what was he promised for not running?
I think it's going to come down to a dirty fist fight between Romney and Perry.
Andy?
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Not a compelling way to make your case against a given candidate.
If I need to explain to you why Michelle Bachmann is a total joke then I don't think you would be capable of understanding that explanation.
If I need to explain to you why Michelle Bachmann is a total joke then I don't think you would be capable of understanding that explanation.
In the interest of reasoned debate, you should assume that you're going to be called on to back up any statement you make. If otherwise, why would you bother other than to sling mud?
The Greatness of Chris Christie
Greatness of weight or superiority...?
Deborah: I think it's going to come down to a dirty fist fight between Romney and Perry.
If it does get rough between them, look for Cain (if he plays his cards right) to stand above it and walk away with the nom.
But, I don't know. Romney's done very well at responding to critics while seeming above the fray so far. We'll see.
Andy R, perhaps someday you will know the difference between words arranged together to try to make yourself sound intelligent, and bullshit.
For now, bliss is yours.
@deborah: LOL!
Deborah asks a sharp question. I assume that Romney had the most to lose if Christie had joined the race.
Hope he held out for ambassador to Bermuda, or something like that. Screw a cabinet post. Too much work and not enough glory.
I agree with Peter. The Repub governors restoring fiscal solvency to their states is very important--it proves that solvency, not stimulus, restores prosperity. Eventually, the Dems will be shown to be wrong in practice as well as in theory.
The Repubs already have a field with many newcomers. Christie should do his job and get ready for a future run.
Lyssa, I don't see Cain making it to the nomination, but if he remains statesmanlike, he would make the ideal running mate...for either R or P.
@chick...from day one.
"... Mostly because she is crazy..."
Having a viewpoint that's at odds with liberal ideology equals mental illness. How very Soviet of you.
Titus, Ed Koch is a good man. I once wrote to him about politics and he wrote me back a personal letter. For a kid, that was pretty cool.
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Having a viewpoint that's at odds with liberal ideology equals mental illness
''I don't know how much God has to do to get the attention of the politicians. We've had an earthquake; we've had a hurricane. He said, 'Are you going to start listening to me here?' Listen to the American people because the American people are roaring right now. They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending.'' -Michelle Bachmann
Yeah, that's totally not a crazy thing to believe.
She seems like the kind of smart rational person that interprets weather patterns as signs from God that I want running the country.
Andy R. said...
Not a compelling way to make your case against a given candidate.
If I need to explain to you why Michelle Bachmann is a total joke then I don't think you would be capable of understanding that explanation.
No, the explanation is Hatman is incapable of justifying his claim, other than the fact he is a Democrat troll.
HE NEVER SAID "YES!"
Chris Christie is not even good bait for Mitt. (Should Mittens get chosen by the GOP.)
Christie is smarter than MITT!
He knew enough to "milk" the "IDEA." But now he's not IN.
Mitt's in. And, he can lose just like McCain.
The question is this: Will Marco Rubio be willing to be the veep?
Come election day, the voting public will say NO ... but louder.
No, the explanation is Hatman is incapable of justifying his claim, other than the fact he is a Democrat troll.
She is a total joke of a candidate because (among many other things) she is dumb and she is crazy.
There. Happy?
".. She seems like the kind of smart rational person that interprets weather patterns as signs from God that I want running the country..."
Oh you mean like voting for Obama would heal the planet and the oceans would recede?
Maybe you're just not bright enough to distinguish political rhetoric from truly crazy talk.
Hatboy, she is not "dumb" - I have heard her speak. You however, are not too smart.
What would Christie have brought that we don't already have?
Someone to split the Romney vote.
"They know government is on a morbid obesity diet and we've got to rein in the spending."
THIS is what you pick for your anti-Michelle-Bachman quote? Not just anti-, but as evidence that she's crazy?
Sign me up for the asylum, dude.
If Christie is going to enter (which I think is highly doubtful), he will probably wait until the dust settles on the states moving their primaries forward, pick an opportune time before the first primary so that he's the Fresh Candidate going in, and allow the high enthusiasm expected for a new entrant to propel him to an easy win. Then, as the theory goes, an initial win makes subsequent wins more likely.
If the primaries had been held a few weeks ago, Perry would be the clear winner. But now he's stale and unimpressive. Christie would want to avoid that.
They should have promised him all the Taylor Ham he could eat.
Carol_Herman said...
Come election day, the voting public will say NO ... but louder.
You made me laugh, Carol...did you know that nitric oxide (NO) and erections are linked?
Here's how the left and much media has portrayed the Republicans:
Bachman: Kinda hot but nut.
Palin: Kinda hot but nut and slut.
Paul: Ugly old nut.
Palewenty: Boring. (And skinny.) (Also hard to spell)
Daniels (remember him?): Boring (and short.)
Cain: Black conservative therefore nut-nut and Uncle Tom.
Huntsman: Bland rich religious nut (Mormon).
Romney: Rich Religious nut (Mormon.)
Christie: Not boring but fat. Probably a nut.
Perry: Racist, stupid, insensitive, sexist, big dicked nut.
There you have it. Lincoln and Douglas rolling in the graves.
I am relieved that is remaining as governor here in NJ. This state can't survive a return to status quo ante.
If Cain is positioned as everybody's favorite for second place, then he will take the pot by reason of the other front runners folding from attacks on each other.
Even today the once favorable reaction to Perry is growing dimmer after watching his debate presence.
And the Romney's support has always been a mere third of the GOP votes needed and he cannot get the other two-thirds from his flip flop history.
The man without a negative who is continuing to lead a bandwagon effect is Cain.
Why can't Cain win?
He took on Hillary's mandated health care in 1993 and won.
What has Romney taken on and won in Massachusetts? The exact opposite.
Cain would become the only politician in DC who can do the mathematics to expose the bait and switch con-men in Pelosi-ville.
But a terrible thought just hit me. When President Cain comes home on weekends, the Secret Service will shut down all of the the streets that I use.
David:
LMAO! Thanks
But a terrible thought just hit me. When President Cain comes home on weekends, the Secret Service will shut down all of the the streets that I use.
As that beautiful goddess, Judy Tenuta once said, SUFFER, POPE!
She seems like the kind of smart rational person that interprets weather patterns as signs from God that I want running the country
@ Andy R...
And there you have it.
Liberals have no sense of humor. No sense of hyperbole. No understanding of either metaphors, sarcasm or other speech techniques.
Of course they buy the hyperbole when Obama says it. "this was the moment when the rise of the oceans began to slow and our planet began to heal;"
Seriously, you want to elect a guy who thinks that his mere presence is going to change the entire earth.
Man. He must be crazy stupid or something. Certainly nothing that a smart rational person would believe......is it?
Pot Kettle
@David: another word: swagger. The left mocks swagger. They said Bush had swagger. They say Perry has it too. Swagger evinces visceral loathing in them. It's almost like a slur word. Notice how often they will use it in the coming months.
Chris Christie will never run for President.
Because if he does then Teresa and KimD will expose his past as a male stripper. Just sayn'
The USA seems to be wanting a Messiah the sooner the better.
So Perry and Bachmann are playing that card as it suits them.
I cannot recall Governor Palin playing the Messiah card. The Church at which she was a guest speaker while Governor just happened to have a Deliverance Minister from Kenya visiting, and he came forward when prayers were made for Palin.
He proclaimed over her a protection from witchcraft. And if anybody ever needed that, she did.
Cain being a very educated Southern Baptist is not into spiritual warfare apart from worship music.
Then there is the Mormon mystery man. He is comfortable in his beliefs that all Mormon men are now or will become angels, so no Messiah is actually needed.
Where are the Catholics when we need one?
Where are the Catholics when we need one?
Avoiding Dallas since November 22, 1963.
What...too soon?
Nah, it's been nearly 50 years. I hear his boy would make a good candidate. Wait, what?
WV: nockbama - you have got to be kidding me...
Wait, what?
Too soon.
Yeah, I was trying to fly that one in under the weather.
Scott and Sixty will be performing at Chuckles Comedy Club from 9-10 Friday thru Sunday. Seats are limited so get your tickets now.
The seats are as limited as the humor. You'll laugh, you'll cry, you'll demand better republican candidates, but only if you are a liberal troll.
ABO!
Too big to be prez.
It's the presidency that got small.
Andy R: Maybe you can help. I have a 14 year old son who has taken me hat shopping and the only ones we have found have the bills facing forward.
Some day Ted Kennedy's 1980 primary challenge was a bridge too far.
I hear the veal is excellent.
Andy R. said...
No, the explanation is Hatman is incapable of justifying his claim, other than the fact he is a Democrat troll.
She is a total joke of a candidate because (among many other things) she is dumb and she is crazy.
There. Happy?
Hardly. All Hatman did was tell us what's wrong with him.
Political discourse has come this: genuinely sad. (although was really a lot funny shit)
More than half the country elected a fucking doofus on the promise that oceans cease to rise and the planet begins to heal--and then he produces an economic program that vitiates the republic.
Good job America--really fucking good job.
I happen to like Christie because he appears to be a fighter and can handle Q and A--he's a bit liberal in some of my positions, but that isnt a big deal when the economy is going deep six. And as others have noted, I dont give a damn who runs on the republican ticket as long as the can send the zero back to chicago.
TraditionalGuy: I am with you on the traffic situation when Cain is president. One thought. He is enough of the real thing that he just might fly Delta and have a limo meet him.
My money is on Cain.
IMO the republicans have some pretty solid guys to contend for the nomination--there is no perfect candidate, IMO, but no matter how imperfect, all are preferable the the jug ears idiot that is the incumbent (and now self proclaimed underdog--what an idiot)
BROOKS: A lot of rich guys love the guy. I mean, if you look at the people who are really lobbying for this, it's a lot of big Wall Street money, I think, is the prime force behind this. And they don't trust Romney. They think he's closet moderate. They see Perry underperforming. They haven't fallen in love with the Hermanator, Herman Cain, even though I think he's had a phenomenal couple weeks here, in part because he does realize that it's a - people want something big. And he's got his 999 plan, which has appealed to something.
I, myself, am a little down on Christie - not because I don't like him; because I don't think he's right for the times. These are very scary and uncertain times. And I think what the country is looking for is somebody who's orderly and secure - which Romney, more or less, is. Somebody who's big and bombastic is not going to actually reassure people - especially if there's another crisis, which is quite possible.
Brooks likes Mitt! And we know how conservative Brooks is.
David Brooks is a first class idiot; only a smidge smarter than the ultimate douchebag EJ Dionne with whom he spars on NPR. David Brooks is the kind of conservative that manhatten liberals like to invite to their cocktail parties to demonsrate their impartiality. Safire got sucked up by the NYT; now Brooks--any decent conservative who flacks for the NYT is a loser
Re safire and brooks: "for Wales, Richard? for Wales?"
"Andy R. said...
She is a total joke of a candidate because (among many other things) she is dumb and she is crazy.
There. Happy?"
This seems to be a trend with this douchenugget, here is a past proclamation with no back up at all
Michael...We can start a "Yes We Cain Club" on the Althouse Blog comments.
I badly need some friends, since the evil eye of all Texans are now upon me.
Did you notice Ritmo's return to the comments last night?
We can try to recruit Ritmo to be an honorary member since we will need his take no prisoners style of argument.
This is more fun than Manuel's Tavern during the JFK glory days.
Tommy says yes
Meanwhile, while David Brooks twirls for Mitt, panic starts to decend on the White House over stories they really do not want heard right now.
Trad Guy: perhaps the resurrection of el senor Ritmo is in reality the return of Vaughn Meador
Fred: interestingly enough for me is that fact that legal blogs such as Volokh and the good professor have remained silent about the gun runner thing. Why is that? I am genuinely curious.
Reynolds has mentioned it...oh wait, you mean Ann.
Ann? Not worth a thread?
time to celebrate with a bigga..... Pizza Pie...lasagne ,and some...canoli
Fred: glenn has been on it like white on rice--Volokh--who when Holder was nominated was effusive in his praise. The story is starting to percolate. It probably isnt in Althouses's style, so I dont begrudge her covering it, but it seems to me to be a major scandal that, by rights, should take down Holder--already caught in lies to the the congressional committee.
Holder--already caught in lies to the the congressional committee.
The hell you say...he was answering a different question than the one he was asked, not lying. Only racist teabagging bitter/clingers would think otherwise.
Reading David Brooks and Howard Fineman used to be some of my secret pleasures.
But now that the War of the Obama has come upon us, I have put them down for the duration.
Scott M: count me in with racist teabaggers--but also one who can recognize a big fat lie when he sees one :)
Emails are wonderful things--the liars cant hide
Roger, Fred
Bill Jacobson recently posted this review.
Dont Tread (etc): Professor Jacobsen had light a candle in the darkness--his site is always a must read
How can anyone trust a man with the keys to the White House who can't pull away from the dinner table before his gut is busting? I can never vote for anyone who violates one of the Seven Deadly Sins.
The highest form of action is inaction.
Zen saying
damn: pls assume i meant: "has lit a candle in the darkness...."
I'm not sure gun runner is something that our professor would cover--but for the main line legal blogs, the coverage seems scant.
recall the angst when alberto gonzalves fired seven US attorneys--you would have thought the world was coming to an end. and now we have an AG who seems to be up to his ass in a murdeous scandal when real lives have been lost--cest la vie
Alex
Really?
I think you might have just stated something that could be construed as discrimination. Against the girthy.
Just sayin'.
I think you might have just stated something that could be construed as discrimination. Against the girthy.
Christie is NOT fat. He's svelte-challenged.
Seven deadly sins: wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy, and gluttony.
I can never vote for anyone who violates one of the Seven Deadly Sins.
You must never vote.
Which one of the 7 has Romney violated? He's perfect.
Don't Tread 2012, thanks! Great link.
Ann, this is a real controversy (and it is legal too). Just sayin!
Roger J.
So you are opposed to liberal and conservative columnists having cocktails? What about beer? Do you approve of liberals and conservatives fraternizing at all? What about marriage between the two?
Fred: gun runner is just now filtering up to the MSM--Professor Jacobsen, whose blog I greatly admire, is on it.
@Alex -- Anyone who runs for president is vainglorious.
Matt: Lol--I am totally in favor of miscongenation between liberals and conservatives--it has to do with the fact that the female liberal side is butt ugly
Roger J, the queer tennessee teabag ,with his trivial crypto-klan brainfart of the day.
The Senate won't touch Holder. Norwill Obama or the SC. And the House must have the senate approval.
Back to the baitshop, puto
Sarah Palin-affiliated law firm made early-state deadline inquiries
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65115.html#ixzz1ZqRwBkSY
Really, really, really, really don't want her to run at this point.
J: go fuck yourself
J said:
Roger J, the queer tennessee teabag ,with some his trivial crypto-klan brainfart of the day.
Is that "pathetic ad hominem", Jolly?
If the rest of you missed it, over in the Fish thread, J has claimed that he's a professional editor and a published author. Taken together with his e-grade and his benchpressing skills, that would make him...what?
lemondog chided
"You must never vote."
Word. That's funny, right there.
Romney's single flaw is vanity. His hair is Miami Vice perfect.
wv - hypsto
Alex
Romney...he's perfect.
If you mean he is like a robotic candidate who says the things you want to here because he thinks you want to hear them then I guess you are right. Is he genuine? Heck no.
The Blogfather is noticing...
J serves the purpose on this blog of comic relief--nothing more--full of sound and fury and recyled ad homs signifying nothing
Anyway thursday is my day to fuck with J--Tuesdays are for more serious discussion.
"... So you are opposed to liberal and conservative columnists having cocktails?.."
My guess is Roger is opposed to referring to Brooks as a conservative.
Hell ill drink with anyone although liberals tend to stick you with the tab.
Scott M said
"...over in the Fish thread, J has claimed that he's a professional editor and a published author. Taken together with his e-grade and his benchpressing skills, that would make him...what?"
Diaper change station attendant at Walmart.
Not that there's anything wrong with that...
Heh heh.
Back to the hardware store, Bubba J. Take yr hayseed boytoy Squatty Moroni witya.
Ah J: lapsing into jibberish again--too mad you missed your ritalin and lithium today--off to your nappy poo.
No, Squatt we're waiting for your explanation of...the Golden Plates ,trash.
Holy newts of flamin' fire ,bubba
J's posts tend to make me reconsider my position on abortion.
Roger J.
female liberal side is butt ugly
Where do you live?! If you were in CA you would definitely not say that. Then again, maybe you define 'ugly' only by one's political beliefs? Sort of odd, really, if true.
Bubba-Roger lying like a typical masonic swinebucket. Yr white trash peoples taught ya well.
Yo Bubba get back out there on the rig.
Hoosier Daddy said
"Hell ill drink with anyone although liberals tend to stick you with the tab."
Agree with the latter.
Drinking with liberals can be uniquely dangerous. Vegans and the like can be especially condescending, and like to offer free parenting advice.
Proceed with caution.
wv - toptlyme
xnar said...
Looks like that leaves Romney/Cain 2012. I could vote for that.
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Cain is just one of a few candidates left not really "vetted" by media or the other candidates. (Huntsman is the other).
Romney wants the guy to get a long time period where Herman gets a "pass" on the tough questions so he can split the dumb yahoo vote with Perry, the excretable Santorum, and Bachmann.
But I don't see Cain faring well down the road when his 9-9-9 Plan is dissected as another Steve Forbes "Flat tax" boon to the wealthy. And his thin resume is looked over.
He's still a good guy and I like him...but I see him as only one of several possibilities in the VP slot. And not the perfect fit - which would for Romney be Marco Rubio. Not in mid-60s like Romney and Cain, from a big Southern swing state, hispanic, younger, and a fine speaker and immensely popular with the Tea Party.
Still, long way to go and the Southern Fundies have it out for Mitt Romney. Even if he is electable and the one with the best chance of doing some good on the economy and jobs - they don't care. Not if he isn't Square With Jesus and believes those thar Satanic things..To them, a dumber Texas version of George Bush is just great.
Fuck you masonic-swine. Lie away, dreck.
All ya need to know Tread-chester
Feds watching this site as well. Got that perps?
Its a beautiful Monday here--J is raving on but comic relief is a wonderful thing--lightens up the afternoon
Feds watching this site as well. Got that perps?
So? By the by, Jolly, "published author" doesn't include posting nonsensical whimsy on this blog.
BTW - A new poll of registered Republicans shows 2/3rds hope that Palin does not enter the Republican contest.
J: please boy--can you express a thought in a language that can be understood?
I am surprised you arent down for your nap--or did your mommy let you out of the basement early?
Anyway J--too nice a day to deal with your rants and raves--so, as I said earlier, go fuck yourself and have a nice day
Don't Treadski...isn't Rash Hossahna season over? Put the shofar down yid
heh heh
Hmmm--if I am not mistaken Yom Kippur is Friday--so the shofur will blow again J
need to check on your Jewish calendar--confer with Cederford for details.
I have a conspiracy theory about J, but I won't tell you what it is because I hope the conspiracy — if it exists — fails. I hate conspiracies. Some time in the future, I'll tell you what the theory was, as this is a conspiracy that will play out within a limited time frame. Don't try to drag it out of me. I am not in this conspiracy, but I don't want to blow the lid off of it. It's has to do with certain character actors seeming to be pursuing different goals, when actually they seek one goal.
Chicken: not difficult. J is the love child of cedarford and Carol Herman
Scott M said...
Sarah Palin-affiliated law firm made early-state deadline inquiries
Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/65115.html#ixzz1ZqRwBkSY
Really, really, really, really don't want her to run at this point.
Amen, brother.
RogerJ: J lives in the San Fernando Valley which would be the equivalent of living out north of Millington. Very difficult to get down with the hipsters when you are way the fuck out there off the bus line and too fat to walk and too broke to hire a driver and too crazy to get your own car. So you pretend you are Pynchon or that you read Hegel or that you can speak Spanish.
Very funny to watch someone come apart like a dollar watch. Especially an antisemite with a Mormon problem and an inability to engage in normal discourse.
Michael--I do enjoy the professors blog even with the illuminati like J--when its a slow day its like pulling the wings off of flys--makes a slow monday go by faster
:)
I eagerly await J's next hackneyed riposte--it will have something to do with mormons, masons, and hicks from Tennessee I am sure--he is nothing if not hackneyed.
Very funny to watch someone come apart like a dollar watch. Especially an antisemite with a Mormon problem and an inability to engage in normal discourse.
You forgot homophobe.
Really, really, really, really don't want her to run at this point.
Why not? Sarah Palin always struck me as a completely serious, credible, non-joke of a candidate.
Scott M: Holy shit, I did. Sorry. It's hard to keep up with the dislikes of a miserable, unhappy, soul.
AndyR: Can you help me with finding a hat like that? Mine all have the bills that point straight ahead.
Second billing at the Chuckles Club, Andy R - sure his humor is based on his misshapen head and his funny, outdated mode of dress, but once you make it past the obvious, you will be impressed with his vacuity.
Michael said...
AndyR: Can you help me with finding a hat like that? Mine all have the bills that point straight ahead.
Reminds me of a scene early on in "The Wire" where one of the cops teases one of gangsters about his sideways baseball cap.
Damn--in the process of jerking J around I forgot what the thread was about--Ahhh--it was about republican challengers for the nomination. Sorry to see Gov Christie drop out--I think he had a lot going for him: fiscal conservative, combative with entrenched interests, and liberal on social issues--seems to me to be winning persona. At least a winning persona among the non-ideologically bound.
The bottom line is that anyone (except for the lunatic Bachmann) would be preferrable to the idiot occuping the white house now.
gonna be an interesting election season, which, given the trend to move up minor state primaries, will make the season run at least a year
god help us all
Fred4Pres - Brooks likes Romney. No surprise. That is why only Romney has a growing lead over Obama in the national polls while (currently) Obama beats the other candidates. It is that he appeals to the Center. The RINOS the Fundie yahoos hate so much, Independents, and moderate Dems sick of Obama like Brooks. Romney could give the Republicans the Landslide election if the whole middle-of-the-road crowd finds him acceptable.
Brooks: The central problem is that Mitt Romney doesn’t fit the mold of what many Republicans want in a presidential candidate. They don’t want a technocratic manager. They want a bold, blunt radical outsider who will take on the establishment, speak truth to power and offend the liberal news media.
They don’t want Organization Man. They want Braveheart.
The question is: Are they right to want this? Well, if they want an in-your-face media campaign that will produce delicious thrills for the true believers, they are absolutely right. But if they actually want to elect an effective executive who is right for this moment, they are probably not right.
Sort of a bad time because people in the Republican Base are so pissed at Executive sorts and people that went to "good schools" and "met with furriners" and even lived and worked overseas and even speak a furrin language or two - they want an Everyman on the Republican side square with Jesus and Goldwater. "We need Joe the Plumber!" sort of thinking.
Could all this NO hurt his chances in 2012?
I mean 2016?
J, have you or any member of your family been diagnosed as schizophrenic, mentally incompetent?
Ultimately, though, it never felt right to him. He said that while it was a family decision, his wife Mary Pat and their kids were fully supportive of him running, and that it was his choice not to go ahead.
If he ran, does he have to release his medical records?
What difference does it make?
None of the GOP twits will beat President Obama in 2012 anyway.
They do have a good shot at some kind of reality show..."Insane Candidates of the U.S. of A."???
ah yes Squatt the mindreader. You'rethe peasant here. Like yr klan boyfriend Roger-Bubba. Capichay? I doubt youve made it through like ebonics Ayn Rand or RonPaul for Dummies as of yet.
Even you should oppose Romney C4. Pure ...capitalist...and yes the z-word-ist. The most Wall Street-friendly candidate in the running. Cain's a bad joke.
What did your..blessed Wehrmacht think of..freemasons?? (which mormons are really). Forget-me-nots.........
Oh I do ,do I Mikey Schmutz. Where do you live, Mikey? Like some NewYawk shithole mostly.
Uh hate to break the news to ya, but no regional screenings in effect as of yet. Tho like blocking NY financier-scum--not bad idea.
J: dude--your insults are just dreck--gotta up your game boy--like really lame
get back to us when you got some good shit going
you are reduced to lampoon status
Vegans and the like can be especially condescending, and like to offer free parenting advice.
The best thing to do when offered parenting advice is to grunt, seemingly in agreement. And then change the subject.
Vegan: MadisonMan, I think you should allow your son to buy an iPhone.
MadisonMan: Hmm. Wow, look how pretty the leaves are.
The best thing to do when offered parenting advice is to grunt, seemingly in agreement. And then change the subject.
Vegan: MadisonMan, I think you should allow your son to buy an iPhone.
MadisonMan: Hmm. Wow, look how pretty the leaves are.
That's pretty much your persona here, too. Tough to turn it off once you've turned it on, eh?
The latest poll in Georgia has Cain at 41% with Newt second at 17%, Romney at 10%, Perry at 9%...and finally Bachmann finishes at 1%.
Roger-Bubba, you're just too stupid for satire or informed political discussion.
Forget-me-nots, C4--the LDS solution. Heheh
"satire or informed political discussion. "
J, honestly now, is the above what you believe you are engaged in? Seriously? Give us a straight answer on this one, please, it is really important.
Brooks would have been the first one to say Ronald Reagan was too radical and unelectable. If the Republican primary voters do anything lets hope that they don't listen to the likes of David Brooks, Chris Matthews, Cedarford and some douche with his hat on sideways.
You could do better with a magic eight ball.
You will need a gutter fighter who will bring it to defeat Obama. The mainstream media is in the tank for Obama and the only way to cut through it is to have someone who will fight.
A gentlemen won't cut it this time.
"You will need a gutter fighter who will bring it to defeat Obama. The mainstream media is in the tank for Obama and the only way to cut through it is to have someone who will fight.
A gentlemen won't cut it this time."
Don't worry. She'll announce soon.
Love said...
What difference does it make?
None of the GOP twits will beat President Obama in 2012 anyway.
They do have a good shot at some kind of reality show..."Insane Candidates of the U.S. of A."???
America's Politico tries a new tack.
Ceadarford, you almost make sense sometimes and then vear off the road. There is one unifying theme that the tea party conservatives-republicans-libertarians want: Less Government.
Obama can definitely be beaten.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Elections/2011/1004/President-Obama-won-t-win-reelection-says-poll
"According to a new ABC News/Washington Post poll, just 37 percent of Americans believe President Obama will win reelection; 55 percent believe he will lose to the Republican nominee."
Andy's hat makes me think of this photo
:-D
Brooks is right, most conservatives want Braveheart. For example, I love the way Palin trashes the lefty media. But we will settle for ABO as long as ABO wins.
It doesn't help a candidate to be seen as a street fighter. Much better to appear presidential and get others to do the wet work.
DBQ - always comes to my mind... Too bad those hats don't come with a bill to block the sun...
Then there are those huge ones worn to the left or right... Is there a meaning to which side they are worn?
wv: mysessi
It should be obvious (but isn't to many) that a government that relentlessly grows in size and power will eventually be so big, so powerful that it will boss us, rather than serving us.
For example, Althouse obviously does not get it because she voted for Obama.
I don't know. Some streetfighters and combative types won. Andy Jackson, Truman, Teddy Roosevelt and Nixon to just name a few.
And of course some of your gentlemanly metro types won too. James Buchanan, Tom Jefferson and Martin Van Buren all were elected as well.
It depends on the time you live in.
These times call for someone who will fight the Obama administration. Who will not be afraid of being called a racist and dealing with bogus bullshit like painted rocks and airport sucked cocks. They will try to pin any transgression by a Republican dogcatcher in East Podunk while their attorney general gives guns to drug dealers and stonewalls any invesitgation. The newsmedia will be out for blood. So give them blood.
Just don't pick someone who will pussy out.
The guys who wrote the constitution had a shrewd understanding of human nature. They knew that governments tend to tyrannize their subjects and that it was critical to balance and limit government power. They understood that liberty is much, much, much more important than efficiency.
Things have changed quite a bit since the constitution was written but human nature hasn't. The GOP should use the constitution as the definition of its core values and make defending the constitution its highest priority.
The constitution is our bedrock always.
But it is simpler than that.
All they need to say is "You lost your job under Obama's watch...now it's time for him to lose his."
It's that simple.
The mainstream media is in the tank for Obama...
Majority in U.S. Continues to Distrust the Media, Perceive Bias
"It's the economy, stupid"
Unless the economy recovers rather quickly and real jobs are created, media bias won't make a difference.
Fred4Pres said...
Ceadarford, you almost make sense sometimes and then vear off the road. There is one unifying theme that the tea party conservatives-republicans-libertarians want: Less Government.
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It's pretty obvious that Romney means less government. The deficits force the taking of a meat axe to government to chop off the fat. Romney is very good at getting all sides to agree to a "new, lean" company or State (Massachusetts) government.
I would say that in my opinion, if the near bankruptcy of America's various levels of government are to be fixed, and new revenue (taxes) is rejected..that means someone that can wield the meat axe well to cut government programs and unecessary government jobs. That is Romney. That was the potential of Christie - who was going about trying to salvage NJ and its budget the same way Romney went from a 3 billion deficit to a 600 million surplus in Massachusetts.
Remember that while Reagan was an ideologue of sorts, he worked easily with Democrats in Cali and in DC and negotiated many things they wanted he agreed would be OK - like the abortion law in Cali, the ending of vast numbers of abusive tax shelters for the rich in 1986 and jacking up FICA.
I was looking beyond the election to an organizing principle to keep the GOP on path (i.e. something different from compassionate conservatism, for example).
I would prefer a president with big tits.
Steve Koch - "The GOP should use the constitution as the definition of its core values and make defending the constitution its highest priority."
Many parts of the Constitution are achaic and some systems that it set up, fine in the days of powdered wigs and judges only living to their early 50s on average - don't work anymore.
Revering the Constitution as some sort of Sacred Parchment and defending every line of it as perfect and from Allah Himself and thus ordering all our lives perfectly for All Eternity?
To remain unquestioned and immutable?
Bunk.
It is just a nation's "owners operating manual".
Except America and the Muslims, other nations update their operating manuals with the times.
Titus, Christie said he's not running.
Cedarford, I prefer Cain to Romney, but if Romney is the nominee (obviously that is possible)--I will definitely vote for him in the general.
I doubt Palin is coming in (it seems more and more unlikely).
I want someone who is unappologetic and who can turn a BS question around on the biased questioner. Because if you can't deal with some idiot from MSNBC how can you deal with Putin, ChiComs, al Qaeda, etc.
"These times call for someone who will fight the Obama administration. Who will not be afraid of being called a racist and dealing with bogus bullshit"
But that responsibility goes way beyond the presidential candidate. Every GOP voice should be doing that. The presidential candidate needs to be smart and slick and disciplined, not emotional. He needs to stay above the fray and delegate the dirty work to others.
The GOP presidential candidate needs to be somebody who will win. He needs to sign conservative legislation that somehow gets passed in congress. He needs to reverse Obama's presidential orders. He needs to shrink government. Any GOP candidate will be orders of magnitude better than Obama.
While Romney is not my first choice, if he beats Obama, I will be thrilled. Let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the good.
Sixty, that was mean...and hilarious. I am glad I finished my coffee.
Cedarford,
You need to radically improve your argument if you want to interest me, let alone persuade me. The overwhelming majority of people who want to rewrite the constitution are dems who find the constitution a major impediment to expanding the power of the federal government. Why would I listen to those people? I don't want a bigger, more powerful federal government. I want a federal government whose power is constrained as defined by the constitution.
Almost 200 comments on this, a Christie thread with barely a mention of Palin. Well done.
Drudge Report link...
PALIN TIME...
Politico
"NO" is the answer that makes sense.
Let Mitt "go for it" ... Perry won't make it. But Mitt won't win, either.
And, if Obama wins? 2016 opens up like a flood gate.
There's a lot of GOP talent that's gonna race in 2016. Not just Christie. But Nikki Hallie. (However she spells it!) Fertile fields.
Let Mitt knock himself out. Maybe, he'll pick Marco Rubio ...because Florida is an "important" state. Along with 11 others.
Some people just like to spend their own money.
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