This theme of humility was reinforced with the musical selection that followed: The choir sang the old Shaker hymn "Simple Gifts"...
'Tis the gift to be simple, 'tis the gift to be free,
'Tis the gift to come down where we ought to be,
And when we find ourselves in the place just right,
'Twill be in the valley of love and delight.
When true simplicity is gain'd,
To bow and to bend we shan't be asham'd....
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«সবচেয়ে পুরাতন ‹পুরাতন 219 এর 201 – থেকে 219Well, obviously the Zero hasn't lost his ability to mesmerize people.
Where in the speech did he express regret for all his 'gun to a knife fight' and similar rhetoric? And where in the speech did he tell his partisans to stop blaming Palin and everyone else?
Oh. He didn't? Yeah I didn't think so.
"Where in the speech did he express regret for all his 'gun to a knife fight' and similar rhetoric? And where in the speech did he tell his partisans to stop blaming Palin and everyone else?"
According to virtually everyone, that was what the country desperately needed. Until Obama actually spoke and didn't say anything like that, at which point the goalposts were moved to wherever he landed. It's good to be King.
‘Creepy,’ ‘Very Hostile’: A College Recorded Its Fears [RE: Loughner]
EXCERPT: Officials at Pima Community College, where Jared L. Loughner was a student, believed that he might be mentally ill or under the influence of drugs after a series of bizarre classroom disruptions in which he unnerved instructors and fellow students, including one occasion when he insisted that the number 6 was actually the number 18, according to internal reports from the college. [...] And in an act the college finally decided merited his suspension, he made a bizarre posting on YouTube linking the college to genocide and the torture of students.
Oh, yeah. All Palin's fault. Absolutely.
"edutcher said...
Kraut has always been something of a cheerleader, but he's gotten to a point where he verging into the Evan Thomas "sort of God" arena. Nothing Obama does is wrong in his eyes anymore."
You must not read him often. He routinely criticizes Obama.
@fen.
I've been nothing but civil here compared to what a few of you are asking for and richly deserve.
I didn't watch it live. I came home and Fox News was discussing it, all giving it high praise, but Brit Hume noted that it had resembled a pep rally, while still complimenting the speech.
Then I started to watch the rebroadcast and it looked and sounded like a campaign event. Raucous cheering when Obama entered. Applause points. I couldn't watch any more. I'll read the transcript. This made me think of an advance team's work.
Maybe they should have put six coffins in front of the podium to remind everybody that this was, you know, a memorial for the dead and wounded.
Re: "she opened her eyes" Wasn't that the reason Terry Schiavo's parents gave for their suit?
Can we now leave all these people alone for a while to let them grieve and recover in peace?
Boy am I EVER with yashu & NotYourTypicalNewYorker ALL THE WAY on this one! Caught one of those mincing "reporters" on CNN a few moments ago doing the: "What? What slander/blood libel controversy? Nobody here but us chickens!" bit when, realizing the game is over, retreated into, And I roughly quote: "Now maybe we can get past this 'silly' back and forth thing." FULLY IMPLYING, of course, that (a) it wasn't that big of a deal anyway (now that the facts and the polls have forestalled our smear campaign) and besides, *we* weren't any part of it, and (b) moral equivalency (The right was just as bad)
Sickening enough to make even the proverbial Mad Magazine Jackal wretch (he, of the all-time Mad classic "wretching Jackal" frame/page)
I was in the kitchen at Mom's house. She had the TV on in the front room. I heard Obama's voice, and went "shields up".
Soon, the shields were shattered by screaming, and cheering. It was like a Justin Bieber concert....and it was coordinated. It started and stopped on queue.
"HD says ...I've been nothing but civil here"
If this is the definition of civil Obama means my dismissiveness is even more warranted than I realized.
@Marshall
show me in my 2 posts on here where i haven't been civil.
go on.
I pretty much tuned out in May 2009 when he was doing speeches in primetime 5 nights a week. Let me clear, I have always refused to accept the false choice of singsong delivery or meaningless platitudes.
I wonder what lesson he would have taught us had his compatriots not gone off the rails in the past few days.
What would his speech been about in that alternative universe?
What would his speech been about in that alternative universe?
"TWO t-shirts, and free Jell-O shots for all the ladies! WOOT!!!"
HDHouse said...
@Marshall
show me in my 2 posts on here where i haven't been civil.
go on.
1/13/11 9:55 AM
So, calling someone hater is civil?
HDHouse said...
David said...
"I'm sorry, but the whole scene made me want to throw up."
I'm sorry that the scene made you want to throw up. All the world loves a hater David..keep saying that.
For my part: The speech was fine. The crowd acted like jackasses though.
Maybe I'm too cynical, but...
Well, HD had already jettisoned the Dems new standard of civility.
I've been nothing but civil here compared to what a few of you are asking for and richly deserve.
We are the ones we've been waiting for. We are the change that we seek. ...
We have met the enemy and they is us
HDHouse: what a few of you are asking for and richly deserve.
Aw, eliminationist rhetoric.
How civil of you.
HD comments after the shooting include:
...I do appreciate your playing to your base here...
HD starts virtually every first comment on any topic the same way: dismissing without engaging, casually insulting, and arrogant.
He claims this so often I consider it his his signature troll food. Translated it means "I can come up with no tangible objection, so I'll subtly insult everyone instead. When someone replies in kind I'll use that to bolster my own self image as a "moderate"". The tactic is a pathetically transparent attempt to delegitimize topics damaging to the left, and only someone completely devoid of introspection or honesty could employ it while claiming to be interested in honest debate.
HD's comments post shooting include "There is no cure for stupid" in response to someone defending against the charge that Mein Kampf on the reading list means Loughner was right wing by pointing out the inclusion of the Communist Manifesto as well.
It's hard to find civil in that.
HD's comments since the shooting include "yes I do asswipe" in response to someone asking if he had a cite.
HD's comments since the shooting include "You add nothing to the discussion of ANY value."
Not Very. Civil.
"HDHouse said...
According to the extremely poorly written headline, either no one is responsible or everyone is. If the vicious left wing rhetoric is "just as vicious as Sarah Palin's" then Sarah's rhetoric is as vicious as the left wing's.
Or did you all over look the premise?"
This reveals his tactic of intentionally missing the point in order to insult others. The obvious answer to his objection is that this post means neither side's rhetoric is at fault, as he admits can be understood from the headline. But elsewhere he claims conservatives are not making this assertion, rather they are making the unsupportable claim that liberal rhetoric alone caused the shooting.
Is it civil to intentionally misunderstand to create the basis for insult?
These are a few of HD's uncivil comments I was able to quickly find. If there's a method to search a posters comments I'd like to know it. Sometimes I like these public service projects, but there's only so much time.
Oh and another item to add from the left-wing contributing to the uncivil nature of society:
Blow up children for Global Warming
Left wingers are psychopaths.
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