And this strangely sanctimonious journalist —
she's writing in the always awful "On Faith" section of The Washington Post — condemns Palin voters for "cheating" 7 paragraphs after she confesses to doing something that is at least as much cheating as what the Palin fans are said to be doing.
My husband and I are "DWTS" fanatics. We plan our social life around it, often regretting invitations that fall on the night of the show....
Ridiculous!
Not only that, but I vote. Under the show's rules, you're allowed to vote five times on one line. I have six lines at home and my cell, so I vote as many times as I can for my favorite.
So this lady, this longtime Washington powerbroker, has 6 phone lines, and she maxes each line out, each week, voting 30 times. But that's
the show's rules. They can't tell how many individuals vote are voting. They can only see phone numbers. So if your family of 5 watches the show and you — you economic losers — only have one phone, you can make 5 calls. Sally Quinn happens to have 6 phone lines, so she gets 30 votes —
under the rules.
This season, I'm voting for Jennifer Grey all the way. She is by far the best dancer on the show.
She's voting
correctly. For the best
dancer. You stupid people are voting for Bristol Palin. Lord knows why.
.... Brandy - a fabulous dancer -- was eliminated last week. She was definitely my runner up. (Jennifer has to win. She's head and shoulders above everyone else.) We were having a dinner party and I made my guests leave the table to watch the final half of DWTS. Norman Lear was with us. Norman is not a DWTS follower but got caught up in the moment too. As the music started and I waited breathlessly to see Bristol be told she was out. I was squeezing Norman's hand when Brandy, not Bristol, was sent home. I couldn't believe it. Neither could the judges and studio audience. Derek and Jennifer's mouths dropped open. Boos could be heard.
Oh, the social life I'm missing!
Norman Lear! Ah! And I'm stranded out here in the heartland where I can only imagine the sparkling, witty conversation. Perhaps:
"The American voters are pretty damned stupid"... that sort of thing.
It seemed Bristol and her partner were just as surprised. Brandy cried. I have to confess I teared up. It just didn't seem right.
Bloggers, columnists and TV commentators jumped on the results. There must be cheating going on, they said. It was all a tea party plot. That could be the only explanation for this appalling miscarriage of justice.
Sarah Palin's detractors point to the Christian right as the culprits here. The say groups organized voting schemes to game the system and were telling each other how to cheat when voting at ABC.com.
Commenters on the conservative blog Hillbuzz.org said they had figured out how to enter more votes than the rules allow by creating fake e-mail addresses. One person posting on Hillbuzz said "Lord have mercy, I voted for three hours online! I got 300 in."
What is a "fake e-mail address"? The rules say you are allowed 5 votes from each email address, just as you are allowed 5 votes from each phone number. Some people have multiple phone numbers and some have multiple email addresses. What's the difference? All I can think of is that you have to spend
money to have multiple phone numbers, and you can get multiple email accounts free. It feels so right for rich folk to get more. I love when liberals slip up like that.
I never remember all Ten Commandments off the top of my head, but there should be one that says, "Thou shalt not cheat while voting on 'Dancing with the Stars.'" Polls have shown that the majority of tea party members are conservative Christians. Are these Christians who are voting 300 times and not using valid email addresses? Doesn't it offend their sense of fairness, if not ethics and morals?
Well, that whole paragraph offends my sense of reason. You're just assuming that the votes are coming from Christians, imagining that these Christians pontificate about morality, and accuse them of cheating when they seem to be following the same rules that let you vote on 6 phone lines? You're
blind to your own hypocrisy, even as you have a platform in the Washington Post where you can preen and try to look like you have something especially important to say about religion.
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Single phone lines are for little people.
Ann, you've forgotten this, haven't you?
I'm a normal American. I have one phone line and one bathroom.
And in news that is even more vital to our lives, the 2004 cotton harvest in Turkmenistan was 3% greater than predicted.
Peter
It's idiotic to claim that a popularity contest is unfair.
[Something my son said yesterday during a discussion on the Bristol DWTS controversy.]
She has six phone lines. Hanging out with Norman Lear. Has to interrupt dinner to go watch her show. Can't have plans on DWTS night because she'll miss the show.
She's rich, but like 1976 rich.
No DVR, doesn't get this email thing. Six phone lines, but this email thing is disturbing to her, all the new technology. Probably invites all her friends over to watch DWTS on her large screen projection television set.
Just a mathematical quibble: Ms. Quinn wrote: "I have six lines at home and my cell", which adds up to seven, not six.
I'm a normal American. I have one phone line and one bathroom.
I don't consider one and only one bathroom to be normal. I don't think we've ever lived in an apartment, let alone a house, that didn't have 1.5 or 2.
"Brandy cried. I have to confess I teared up. It just didn't seem right."
And clearly Quinn is idiotic.
The popular votes can be gamed, so Quinn games the heck out of them while whining about "Christians" messing up her world. She's another Prince Charles, so privileged that she EXPECTS that she will always count for more with her idiotic statements, than viewers of this popular show about amateurs enjoying learning to dance. If any fool like her only wants to see a professional performances, then go to the Ballet and see frozen drones moving in perfection on their toes.
Hillbuzz.org is conservative?
I remember when I quit buying and reading the WP. Saved me over $100 a year. More importantly, it saved me a lot of time which allowed me to listen to friends and colleagues. Better info and better wit. Win-win!
Basta..Basta..Basta! Who gives a rats ass but dumb blondes like Sally Quinn and, well...you know, other dumb blondes.
What nonsense that she edits the religion page. She doesn't even have the courtesy to respond to a recent query about a local Catholic group's activities. A grand and glorious hypocrite, me thinks
I watched about two years ago until Penn Gillette got thrown off. Who wants to watch "good" dancers? I can see professional dancers anytime. But awful dancers...they're more interesting.
Wonderful take-down of the lefty mind-set. And a nice echo of Tribe's quip about Sotomayor -- Quinn is not nearly as smart as she thinks she is.
Who gives a rats ass but dumb blondes like Sally Quinn and, well...you know, other dumb blondes.
BLASPHEMER!!!
The issue with a bathroom is whether or not it has a window.
Scott,
My farm house was built in 1908. There were no bathrooms then, and no running water. There were no closets, also. I built the basement under the house, which sat on large rocks.
Regarding multiple phone lines, wasn't that an issue in the landmark case Spinelli v US. Louis Spinelli was a "known bookie" who associated w/ other known bookies and he had multiple phone lines in his house. The guilt by association decision?
I took a constitutional law class. A stupid, Irish law prof[also a local plaintiff's attorney/ambulance chaser] on the first day of class asked if I was related. I told him Spinelli is a fairly common name and that was a demeaning question. I got a B...deserved an A.
As the music started and I waited breathlessly to see Bristol be told she was out. I was squeezing Norman's hand when Brandy, not Bristol, was sent home. I couldn't believe it. Neither could the judges and studio audience. Derek and Jennifer's mouths dropped open. Boos could be heard.
Awwwww. The poor little Palin-haters are distraught.
I'll be voting 1200 times again for Bristol. I'm not a christian or Tea Party member. And I don't even follow the show.
But I love making libtards cry. Consider it some payback for all the cheap shots they leveled against Sarah.
My take is that people are sick and tired of phony, sycophantic creations of some Hollywood PR slob, and are voting for a genuine authentic person like themselves.
("But what shall I tell my public about how I was driving my Range Rover at 75 MPH and smashed into the back of a stopped car and killed them?")
"Just tell them that there was no evidence that you did anything wrong. Then pause and get very emotional and say how devastating it was to you, and how you wish you could go back and change it all. Then hopeful and more cheerful, say that if, through your experience, some young girl is inspired to work hard and becomes a big star like you, then your personal suffering from the accident will have all been worth it.")
("Keep practicing that and I'll go call Leno's people.")
I voted ten times - five text votes and five from my home phone. Not because I watch the show (my wife does), but only because my thinking is if the libs think there is a vast conspiracy, well, why disappoint them.
And as to voting ten times in one election . . . well, now I know how a Democrat feels.
Added--
I dug the basement by hand, built cement forms and slowly but eventually poured all the walls out of cement that I mixed with my cement mixer. I did the floor by pouring cement from one wheelbarrow down a chute into another.
Now that I think about it, I'm not a normal American. I'm a KNUCKLEDRAGGER!
I didn't want to read Sally Quinn's article that you linked to, but I did.
Is she serious? It reads like comedy to me. My goodness she comes across as vapid.
And how come no one compliments Mark Ballas on his instructional ability?
You forgot the 11th Commandment: Cheating by liberals with good intentions is not a sin.
It's pretty stunning to me that this is a column on religion?? No wonder papers are going out of business.
All I can say is that I feel sorry and embarrassed for this poor woman making such a fool of herself in public.
All I can say is that I feel sorry and embarrassed for this poor woman making such a fool of herself in public.
Who? Quinn? Palin? Palin? AA? Michelle?
I know his comedy isn't that funny, and he's doctrinaire, and all that. But geez, there's Norman Lear, a figure of television writing history, forced by politeness to pretend excitement over a reality show. How could a hostess be that rude?
I'm glad she's not pretending to be my friend.
I have never seen a moment of DWTS or American Idol.
I expect to be deported for un-American activity.
I always though Sally Quinn was a bimbo. Sadly, I far underestimated the true vacuity of her inconsequential being.
Trey
PatCa, no wonder churches are going out of business too.
Trey
Scott M: sorry - Ms Quinn.
Sigh. I'm going to go to ABC.com and vote for Bristol using my two email addresses. And I've never seen the show.
Hope Bristol wins, just to see some of these people squirm.
Puh-leez....it's the same thing as when Rush orchestrated "Operation Chaos"...not cool.
It's what has happened on Idol the last two years. The really talented ones have been left in the dust and some loser won-{Lee and Kris]. The American people will have their say.
It is very difficult for a liberal to write about a Palin without lapsing into self parody. But it will never be parodied on SNL.
Sally Quinn: I wondered what I would do if I were Sarah Palin and my daughter were in this situation.
You would have folded like a cheap card table after enduring for one week what they have to put up with. From people like you.
Bristol is clearly getting votes she would never have gotten had she not been Sarah Palin's daughter.
Bristol is getting votes as pushback for all the bullshit your people have put her family through.
Those who think they are doing the right thing by doing wrong are only hurting her. They are putting her in a vulnerable position to be vilified by her mother's enemies.
Empty threat. Your kind are going to vilify her anyway. And don't think we didn't see you mutter "lone wolf!" under your breath just now.
Perhaps Sarah Palin could say to her supporters that she hopes the stories of rigging the vote aren't true; that she doesn't approve of cheating and may the best person win.
Perhaps the DNC could go first?
Whatever the reasons for this, it has left a bad taste in everyone's mouth,
Not mine. I find you tears to be delicious.
not only for the perception of dishonesty,
said the hypocrite with 7 phone lines and 35 votes...
but because of the perceived determination of Palin"s supporters to do anything they have to do to help their candidate.
whoops. You're slipping here. Appears that the real reason you are distraught is because of Sarah Palin, who is not in the show.
My favorite story is that of 67-year-old Steven Cowan who couldn't stand it another minute and blasted his TV with a shotgun after Brandy lost.
Thats your fav, eh? The one where he leveled the shotgun at his wife, forcing her to flee the house?
This could be a metaphor for things to come.
"Lone wolf! Lone wolf!" see cried. Careful Sally, your people are so confused, they might tag Tina Fey by mistake. Wouldn't that be priceless?
Sarah Palin is a force to be reckoned with and if her supporters can influence a TV show of 23 million viewers they can have more serious influence on elections. And if they can mobilize the religious right then the Democrats better pay attention and start dancing as fast as they can.
Here's a clue: the more you guys Alinksy Sarah, the more powerful her influence becomes.
And as for the people who cheated when they voted, all I can say is, "Lord have mercy!"
Say it to your mirror first.
Quinn exemplifies the unctuous sanctimony that has become the trademark of the liberal...
And, just like the others, she's quick to denounce Christians for their unctuous sanctimony.
We always hate most in other what we hate in ourselves.
This bitch appears with some frequency on O'Reilly.
She was meant to be a nun. She should be living in the nunnery. It was a mistake to let bitches like this out of the nunnery. They're a pain in the ass when they're allowed out in public.
As I said in the cafe thread, I can't believe the Lefties are going berserk over this.
And Crack has a point. If it weren't for Ben Bradlee, nobody would know who Sally Quinn is.
PS Again, I thought the idea was to get 'stars' who are non-dancers and pair them with pros and see who does best with it.
PPS At one point, I had email accounts at work, school, and several professional organizations to which I belonged, as well as several personal ones - I had a couple of ISPs back then. So which was my real one? I've heard Ms Quinn's another of these dumber-than-a-box-of-rocks Lefties, now I can believe it.
I'm rooting for Jennifer Gray because I think she deserves to win.. shes the best dancer.
But my hart is with Bristol.
That fosse-esk dance last night was daring.
(Ok.. the Palin short screen close-ups are not bad either ;)
This incident could be just what we need to interest liberals in the idea that ballot-box stuffing in real elections might be a bad thing.
Bristol is getting votes as pushback for all the bullshit your people have put her family through.
I agree.
The left makes use of all kinds of things as political ammunition.. this is benign in comparison.
Sally Quinn fucked the boss, broke up his marriage then married him. She was hot, just ask. But, gosh, that was over thirty years ago, long before the internets, back when having a phone with lots of lines and little buttons that light up proved that not only were you hot, but you were HOT. Is a cell phone like a phone LINE, asks Sally Quinn who fucked the boss and married him? Oh, the husband she doesn't name is the one you are supposed to know because he is Ben Bradley the former editor of the Washington Post. He and the young guys spoke truth to power back about thirty years ago.
"...Dancing is my religion.." I guess Sally belongs to the First Church of Latter Day Terpsichoreans.
Haha Sally Quinn so reminds me of one of my sisters who is liberal, smart, credentialed but stoopid and uninformed. She also worships the WAPO's every word.
Btw - Big Mike [maybe] said yesterday he does not get all the outrage out there re TSA, DWTS etc. Me neither- at to DWTS, it's just a TV show you dumbass liberals.
I'm going to go to ABC.com and vote for Bristol using my two email addresses. And I've never seen the show.
Ditto: using my 6 email addresses, 3 land line phones and 3 cell phone numbers.
Sally Quinn is an idiot and anyone who attends a party at her place deserves to be forced to watch DWTS. The entire concept of the show is idiotic.
Bwhahahhaha
@ AllenS: two bedroom suites with two full bathrooms, half bath (sink/toilet) in the workshop, half bath in the office.
Just to be a bit contrarian, I kind of sort of understand why Sally Quinn would plan her social schedule around DWTS. It is, after all, a live network show (despite all of the news stories that carelessly refer to it as being "taped" or "filmed"). Why not DVR the thing? For the same reason people would rather watch the Super Bowl (or just about any other televised sporting event) live, in real time, instead of on personal digital delay.
Word verification: apatesti.
Last night I watched Bristol dance in a cage. The night before that, I saw Sarah holding the still beating heart of her prey in the palm of her hand. The week has had its surprises.
She's rich, but like 1976 rich.
ha ha ha ha ha!
My house was built around 1976. Outside, there is an in-ground hot tub. Near the hot tub is an outdoor phone jack. I laugh whenever I look at it, because I know the original homeowners must have found that so luxurious.
Wait, I thought back when it was Gore v. Bush that we wanted the popular vote to be above all?
If Bristol is getting all of these votes because she's Palin's daughter, how is that against the rules? Don't people vote for their favorite celebrity? It's just like voting in a "real" election--you can vote for whatever reason that you want.
Bristol Palin voters now need to switch to voting for Kyle. For Bristol to have a shot, she needs Jennifer to come in third in the popular vote yielding a three-way tie.
Norman Lear is still alive?
Of course, no media mentions that the TV shooter/Bristol hater is an elected Democrat.
Palin Hater Democrat
Fen said... You would have folded like a cheap card table after enduring for one week what they have to put up with. From people like you.
Amen to that.
"Seventies flashbacks" are seldom a good thing: platform shoes, plaid doubleknits, and now Sally Quinn should all be safely relegated to the decade that spawned them.
I took a constitutional law class. A stupid, Irish law prof[also a local plaintiff's attorney/ambulance chaser] on the first day of class asked if I was related. I told him Spinelli is a fairly common name and that was a demeaning question. I got a B...deserved an A.
Ya shoulda said, "No," and let it go. Letting people know how they can get to you is never a good idea.
DWTS isn’t about dancing, it’s about b/c/d list famous people learning to dance. It’s also a popularity contest. If you just want to watch DANCING you are going to watch SYTYCD.
I must say..
Althouse's forceful defence of Bristol is.. admirable.
I bet Libs are all for voter ID for DWTS.
Grown adults obsessing over Bristol Palin dancing in a cage. That's pretty fucking pathetic.
Soon we will be talking about the The great garbage avalanche.
TS isn’t about dancing, it’s about b/c/d list famous people learning to dance.
How did Bristol Palin get on one of those lists?
Why did Cloris Leachman get no love? People forgot "Frau Blucher"?
I admit rooting for Kristi Yamaguchi, even though her figure skating background had to have helped.
Actually, she comes off as pretty shallow. She is that worked up over a TV show?
Teenagers, I can understand. A lady of a certain age should have more decorum.
For full disclosure, I've never watched a full episode, and really don't care.
And I hate Jennifer Grey's new nose.
Of course, no media mentions that the TV shooter/Bristol hater is an elected Democrat.
I know someone who knows the guy -- it's a small county! He has serious problems that long predate Bristol dancing.
TeabagMe said: Grown adults obsessing over Bristol Palin dancing in a cage. That's pretty fucking pathetic.
Not as pathetic as your constant flirting to suck on our balls.
And no. You still can't.
Who is Sally Quinn? Am I supposed to know her for some reason?
I enjoy watching DWTS myself. Preferably via DVR, where I can skip commercials and gain 15-30 minutes of my life to spend directly with friends and family. I have access to 6 phone lines too, but only because I pay for all the cellphone bills for the family, house phone, and I could (God please don't strike me down) use my work phone.
The fact is, I don't even bother to call. None of the people mean that much to me. For example, I agree that Jennifer Grey is a better dancer, but she seems to be a jerk. My preference is for Kyle to win, but he's a Disney kid. They don't have a good track record of becoming stellar adults.
Perhaps this little episode will help big mouth celebrities understand how their political pronouncements hurt them.
They are experiencing politics+ entertainment through the looking glass. Do they like what they see?
This is a perfect example of the kind of thing you write. Then you put it in a drawer. The next day you read it to yourself, laugh, then file it in the circular file.
This is a perfect example of the kind of thing you write. Then you put it in a drawer. The next day you read it to yourself, laugh, then file it in the circular file.
Yup. Thats why I always "refrigerate" the important memos, letters, papers.
I've tried to avoid thinking about the DWTS but it keeps coming up. And Palin fans like Ann Althouse miss a simple concept.
Sarah Palin is engaged in politics for the money and celebrity. She is using her failed stint as Governor and run for VP to fill her pockets. And now to fill her child's pockets.
That is far removed from any notion of public service. Ethics rules all over the country specify that it is ethically wrong to use a public office for personal gain.
Palin no longer holds elected office, since quitting the Governorship. But she remains active in public affairs to enrich herself. And her kid is only on that show because her mother is a famous pol.
She is a grifter. A two bit hustler. She has no class.
No, garage was right, Fen. It's kind of silly on both sides. I understand people wanting to counteract the hate more than the actual (irrational, IMO) hate itself.
But I agree with garage. Why be so crude?
Who is Sally Quinn? Am I supposed to know her for some reason?
If you remember Jane Pauley you might also remember Sally Quinn.
Alpha Libtard: What would you know about class, Flatlander?
WV: makeppop.
Do de dah do deh da.
And in news that is even more vital to our lives
As soon as I saw who wrote this, I'm thinking "merkins."
Is that wrong?
Darcy: No, garage was right, Fen.
Doesn't matter. He still has a year of teabag slurs to pay for ;)
In an "ON FAITH" column, Sally Quinn claimed that DANCING is her religion and that she can never remember all Ten Commandments. Yet Quinn is qualified to write a religion column for The Washington Post but 20 year old Bristol Palin is not qualified to be in the finals of DWTS---a TV show about competing celebrity novice dancers.
Before I read Sally Qunn's nonsensical column I had no reason to bother voting for anyone in DWTS. Now I do. Go Bristol!
FLS says in part ..."Sarah Palin is engaged in politics for the money and celebrity."
Missed these sentiments on the Rangel discussion. Missed your criticism of Tom Daschle on this basis. Funny, missed your criticism of Obama. Missed it of Bill and Hillary Clinton.
Interestingly this comment shows your assertions of hypocrisy are hypocritical.
Whoops, AL not FLS. It's hard to keep the nuts straight.
AlphaLiberal said...
That is far removed from any notion of public service.
Go ahead, tell us about your public service.
WV: judsm
Sorry, C4, it must have been for you.
Sarah Palin is engaged in politics for the money and celebrity. She is using her failed stint as Governor and run for VP to fill her pockets.
How did Obama make his money, again?
When did his book(s) finally start selling?
I find your tears to be delicious is the best sentence in this thread. Thanks for that.
Sally Quinn has once again exposed herself as a vapid fool.
Sally Quinn is the epitome of the mainstream media douchenozzle. The epitome of the Beltway Elite. She is so out of touch with regular people that is just laughable.
Jennifer Grey will most likely win. The favorites usually lose in these popularity contests. Witness Adam Lambert and Crystal Boxershorts in American Idol. So maybe she should come down and go back to trying to figure out why they canceled "Maude."
It is ironic that the same folks who supported (or did not object to) the Nobel Peace Prize going to Barack Obama would find it objectionable that someone was "unfairly" given something they didn't deserve.
At least Bristol has done SOMETHING to warrant voting in her favor, where BHO had done absolutely nothing to warrant the Peace Prize, other than not be George W. Bush.
See, if not for you posting about this, I'd barely be aware of Dancing With The Stars, and blissfully unaware of this Quinn twat.
Thanks, Ann.
Jennifer Grey will most likely win.
Agreed. I don't think the show can withstand Bristol winning. Expect the producers to step in and alter the vote.
Thats the other thing about all these shows. Check the disclaimer when the credits run. Most shows will have a disclaimer that the producers have a say in who stays.
I thought The Washington Post fired Sally Quinn for using her ON Faith column to air the Ben Bradlee family squabble over competing wedding dates--Sally scheduled the wedding of her son Quinn on exactly the same date as the already scheduled wedding of Ben Bradlee's oldest granddaughter (daughter of Ben Bradlee Jr. and Martha Raddatz).
Thats the other thing about all these shows. Check the disclaimer when the credits run. Most shows will have a disclaimer that the producers have a say in who stays.
Is that true? If that disclaimer actually exists (no doubt it does) then that's almost as disappointing as meeting a guy who was on Springer three different times as three completely different characters. Both disappointments, however, do not rival finding out that both Santa Claus and Pamela Anderson's boobs are fake.
Alpha Liberal: I believe the Clintons have raked in about a quarter billion themselves. Grifters of the first order. Why, oh why, do liberals hate people who make money? Is it because they themselves can't and pretend they are above it all or don't want to? Because as dumb as Sara Palin is she is smarter than AL. And a lot richer. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHa
Take that back ScottM. Santa Claus's boobs are not fake.
There was a bit of a stink some years ago when it was reported that "American Idol" contestant contracts specified that the producers would have the ultimate say as to who the winner was.
That kicked up a storm, with people demanding to know if the producers were going to pick the winner, instead of relying on the viewer vote.
The "Idol" producers were quick to rush out with a statement saying that of course they were going to rely on the viewer vote.
Legal observers at the time didn't find anything untoward about the clause. They said it was a way for the producers to protect the franchise. For example, if the voting process were to go totally haywire, the clause would allow the producers to step in and make a good-faith attempt to set things right.
Is that also the case with DWTS? I don't claim to know.
Word verification: uriist.
Sarah Palin is engaged in politics for the money and celebrity. She is using her failed stint as Governor and run for VP to fill her pockets.
And Obama’s books didn’t do the same thing? At least she’s not a current politician and can’t be bought, like all the other one’s who are on the take.
By the way, she's received death threats.
Remember last summer when stating your policy preferences was somehow out of bounds?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/sarah-palin/8154703/Bristol-Palin-receives-death-threats-ahead-of-Dancing-With-The-Stars-results.html
WDOR said...
"It is ironic that the same folks who supported (or did not object to) the Nobel Peace Prize going to Barack Obama would find it objectionable that someone was "unfairly" given something they didn't deserve. "
Good pull.
Nevermind I can't get the link to work.
So instead, how about some monkeylingus.
Somehow Sally Quinn makes me think about that. Just sayn'
Against my better judgement, I read this. In-fucking-credible.
I've seen Quinn interviewed on O'Reilly a few times and she comes across as dumb. I assumed she just doesn't interview well. Scratch that hypothesis.
So you know why (Enter particular Christian denomination here for example Baptists, Methodists):_____________ don't have sex standing up - it leads to dancing....
Let's all please remember this column the next time Sally Quinn shows up on our TVs to lecture us about something.
I find it hard to take her seriously. I mean whenever I hear someone say "Did you see what Quinn wrote" I think to myself "Why do I care what an Eskimo thinks about dancing?"
I know this is about Bristol and the oh so important voting controversy, but how can Quinn hold herself out as some sort of expert "On Faith" and admit she can't recite the 10 commandments?
Honestly, a person of average intelligence and a decent memory can memorize them in about 20 minutes. I did it when I was about 10 years old.
"Sally, you're a good journalist. Why do you want to put yourself through this?"
She thinks she's a good journalist? That's rich.
"She thinks she's a good journalist? That's rich."
What do you mean. She is a pretentious, elitist lying sack of shit. She is the perfect journalist. That's called the "Frank Rich."
Wow - check out the comments at the WAPO website. Even their average lib reader seems to think Quinn is a douche-nozzle [great word Trooper!].
As the music started and I waited breathlessly to see Bristol be told she was out.
What is about liberals that makes them so petty, small-minded, and mean-spirited?
If Bristol Palin winning DTWS makes people like Sally Quinn unhappy, then more power to her. Hell, I've never watched a single episode of DWTS but if I can leverage my multiple phone lines/email addresses to put a thumb in Sally Quinn's eye maybe it's worth it!
If only I could watch breathlessly to see Sally Quinn be told Bristol was the winner...Maybe it's time for a new show... Watching Entitled Sanctimonious Yuppies Watch Dancing With The Stars.
Shanna's right; these shows aren't about talent, but are popularity contests.
It's become completely predictable that the most talented person in this shows gets eliminated before the finals. (In a few cases this appeared to be due to voters thinking the most talented contestant is safe and throwing their votes strategically to help their second choice.)
Another trend I've noticed: If the contest is purely based on viewer votes and the choice is between two women, one clearly prettier than the other, the prettier one will almost always lose. (My theory is that viewers think everyone else will vote for the more attractive girl and don't want the plainer one to feel bad so throw her sympathy votes.)
that the same folks who supported (or did not object to)
There is a vast chasm between supporting something and not objecting to it. (For example, I do not object to California voting up or down on medical marijuana -- it's their state, they can do what they want.) How is that in any way equivalent to my supporting it?
There are many many many things in this world that I just don't give a rat's flying ass about, and I don't comment on them. But that does not mean anyone should interpret my stance as anything approaching support.
You do know that douchenozzle was the original name that they chose for the Philidelphia franchise in the National League but cooler heads prevailed.
My preference is for Kyle to win, but he's a Disney kid. They don't have a good track record of becoming stellar adults.
Kurt Russell was a Disney kid.
I see. Sally Quinn is a whore. Or worse. At least most prostitutes own up to their work and profession. So she is a deluded whore, in more ways than one.
This is so unfair. Obviously racist. Don't we know that races which involve voting irregularities are supposed to be won by Democrats and lost by Republicans?
Al Franken could probably help out Sally Quinn on how to get multiple votes in for the one that isn't Palin.
Shanna's right; these shows aren't about talent, but are popularity contests.
If the most popular was hot, sexy, funny, humble, etc, but obviously the best dancer, a great deal of Americans would still pull for an underdog. There's something innate about our culture that demands it.
A sizable chunk of my family is German (specifically East German). I don't mean immigrated from Germany...I mean they are German and live in Germany. Underdogism is something they think is quaintly American.
I'm not sure if it's good or bad. It just is.
A douchenozzle is what the grounds crew uses to clean the New Meadowlands Stadium field after the New York Giants play. The stadium by the way is in East Rutherford, New Jersey. Why the Giants don't play in New York is a mystery to me.
Hey sometimes being a douchenozzle is not such a bad thing to be. I mean imagine if you were Christina Hendrick's douchenozzle?
You might end up in some very interesting places. Just sayn'
Good grief. I can't believe the Bradlees care so much about all this. I also can't believe they don't have a DVR.
"The issue with a bathroom is whether or not it has a window."
Taken a step further, the real issue then becomes, how did she look when she came through?
The Giants don't play in New York because the real estate is too valuable to build a stadium on. We save our primo real estate for bodega's, abortion clinics and ground zero victory mosques. That is what living in a blue state is all about.
I'd agree douchenozzle is what most of the pro sports team owners are today. Hard to name even a few that are from the old school sportsman types. Today they are just in it for the money and attention. That changed in the 1970's or 1980's. Jerry Jones is Exhibit 1.
She obviously has never heard of the "Vote for the Worst" movement. A movement that developed under American Idol, and has latched onto Bristol this year as their banner participant. I'm fairly sure the VFTWers are loving that they're flying under the radar with Tea Party taking the flack for this.
That said, VFTW voting block usually peters out about this time of the season, but with the louder 'lets stick it to the elites' echoing, Bristol could pull it out.
Bravo, Ann!
Sally Quinn is more than just an idiot.
You know Troop, I think I embody the two things you hate the most, lawyers and Philadelpha.
And our self-selected elites wonder why we think they're dolts.
Dipshiterati.
Here's the verification word that came up after my last comment:
betcha
If I were superstitious, I would take that as an omen.
Why are people no longer entitled to their opinions without having to endure personal attacks? Sally Quinn's point was that on DWTS presumably votes should be cast for the best dancer and not for other reasons such as making political statements, etc. Yet the blog and comments seem to dwell on what a jerk Ms. Quinn is. Why not discuss her ideas instead? If you think multiple votes to make political statements or presumably hurt others is correct and doesn't unfairly penalize the other dancers on the show then state why and have a discourse on that. Cheap shots on Ms. Quinn shouldn't pass for civil discourse.
"Why are people no longer entitled to their opinions without having to endure personal attacks?"
We agree people should be allowed to vote for Bristol without being called stupid or cheaters. Too bad Sally doesn't agree, maybe you should address your comment to her.
Sally should know that Christians would never cheat or lie,and if they did they would not advertise it, so I conclude that person who wrote about how to scam the system was a witch and a follower of you know who.
AlphaLiberal said...
Sarah Palin is engaged in politics for the money and celebrity. She is using her failed stint as Governor and run for VP to fill her pockets. And now to fill her child's pockets.
I think Alpha needs a change of reading besides Kos - it's getting to him. Dr Goebbels told us that, if you tell a lie often enough, you can get anybody to believe anything, but he never said what happens if you read the lies too much.
Martha said...
In an "ON FAITH" column, Sally Quinn claimed that DANCING is her religion and that she can never remember all Ten Commandments.
Well, there are at least three versions.
"Sally Quinn's point was that on DWTS presumably votes should be cast for the best dancer and not for other reasons such as making political statements, etc."
That was one of her points. Another was that there is somehow a difference between her 7 phone lines and the little people's multiple e-mail accounts.
I don't watch the show much and I certainly don't vote, but I did actually see Jennifer and Bristol dancing.
I kinda resent the left insisting Bristol must be inferior. What I saw was Bristol dancing to the song and Jennifer showing a lot of flash that went as well with any other song.
Also, Jennifer wasn't dancing in the context of people threatening to kill her, shooting their guns at images of her on TV, etc.
Bristol performed much better, in my opinion, and probably deserves to be the champion. I think the screechers even know this, and are setting up this voting issue because they expect Bristol to win.
Jennifer winning would be an upset. She wasn't as good a dancer, in the limited time I watched, and she wasn't overcoming anything like Bristol was. I don't understand the people criticizing Bristol in this thread. She's working hard and entertaining people, and she's done nothing to anyone here.
Was she a professional dancer before this show? If now, that's an awful lot of work to out perform an experienced performer like Jennifer.
A show for watching celebrities dance.
And some of you wonder why I dog TV.
"We were having a dinner party and I made my guests leave the table to watch the final half of DWTS."
Pompous pseudo-intellectual middlebrow twits.
Ah, the proud successor of the Algonquin Roundtable, DWTS.
I tell ya, more and more, all the evil and hocum the leftys accuse the right of, it ALL looks like a case of projection.
Conne,
Quinn's big idea basically comes down to nothing more than an appeal to authority -- she's a ballroom dancer, and she says that Jennifer Grey should win, and that's just the way it is.
The fact is that people are asked to vote for their favorites, not those with the best technical skills (that's what the judges are for).
If Bristol Palin is the viewer favorite, it may be because she's the underdog, it may be because she's entertaining, or because she's Sarah Palin's daughter (or some combination of those things).
If Jennifer Grey is not the viewer favorite, it may be because she shamelessly invoked the spirit of Patrick Swayze to pander for votes or because it's hard to argue that a woman who received extensive dance training for one of the greatest and most successful dance movies of all time isn't a professional dancer.
The way that these sorts of goofy talent shows actually work is unimportant to Quinn. She's a dancer, a "good reporter", and she has dinner with Norman Lear, so she knows better than everybody else. It's perfectly valid to point out that her self-important tantrum marks her as a complete and total dipshit.
"Strangely sanctimonious journalist"?
Isn't that redundant rather than strange?
The following was lifted off of a comment posted on the Hillbuzz.org site. Is there a defense for this way of thinking?
"Since ABC has a loophole and anyone can create as many fake e-mail accounts as they want, I made over 100 of them this past Monday. On the upcoming Monday, I will use ALL 100 fake e-mail account and ALL 500+ votes for Bristol. In fact, I might even “create” a few more fake ones.
Why not? I can stay up ALL night long and keep on voting. After all, there’s NOTHING the liberals or ABC can do about it. Hell, since the contest is winding down, we might as well admit it since everyone who tries to create the fake accounts actually CAN exploit it. If the liberals can’t do it, I guess we’re just smarter than they are.
BRISTOL is going to win because none of the liberals can stay up all night long and keep voting with as many fake accounts as the rest of the Tea Party and other supporters.
So, go ahead…..Liberals can tell ABC, tell Good Morning America, blog about what I’m saying for all they want…….it’s not going to change. While they are voting 5 to 10 times for Kyle or Jennifer……we are voting over 500 at a time. In fact I CHALLENGE ABC to try and stop the barrage of online voting that will happen next Monday night……….They can’t.
Hey, the haters can blame ABC if they don’t like it. However, it’s too late……they can’t change the online voting in time to prevent us from stuffing the balloting box.
So…..yes, in a way, we can admit that there has been a conspiracy……but nevertheless, the TEA PARTY WILL WIN……….and we’ll all be up ALL NIGHT LONG to see that it happens!!!" (end of comment)
If we don't like liberals - fine. If we have a better plan - that's better still. One thing is for certain, IMHO we cannot defend this kind of sentiment regardless of which side it comes from. It was to comments such as this one Ms. Quinn was addressing.
That was an awesome fisking, Ann. Nice work!
Sally Quinn: The peasants are revolting!
Kurt Russell was a Disney kid.
I'm thinking the most recent generation: Brittany Spears, Christine Aguilera, Lindsey Lohan.
Cheap shots on Ms. Quinn shouldn't pass for civil discourse.
Sure, call us racist gun-clinging xenophobic ignorant teabaggers, then appeal to civility.
Why not discuss her ideas instead?
A liberal is upset that conservatives are bringing politics into an entertainment venue.
In related news, Kim Pyong-il is upset that Americans are warmongering and belligerent.
trooper called Sally Quinn a douchnozzle. I agree with the sentiment but disagree with the usage.
A douchenozzle goes somewhere that is warm, aromatic, tasty and comfortable. I would love to be reincarnated as a douchenozzle.
Or a douchebag or a douche.
Would it not be more accurate to say that Sally Quinn is an enema nozzle? Or enema or enema bag if you prefer.
John Henry
I wish Sally would be sad over all those who lost jobs to lesser qualified affirmative action beneficiaries.
Watching Entitled Sanctimonious Yuppies Watch Dancing With The Stars
Heh. The Pilot Episode was MSNBC on election night.
Ann, welcome to the large group of conservative bloggers who have been duped by WAPO and a cabal of flaming homosexual pranksters. This woman Quinn is the second WAPO columnist to try to blame the known vote-rigging plot on conservatives. The first WAPO columnist was Lisa de Moraes, who cited HillBuzz as the source, but pretended that the HB'er in question was conservative, when he was actually networking with his flamer friends to tip the show. My post here.
These pranks are extremely annoying to the 20 million fans of these competition shows, the great majority of whom are looking to see an honest competition. By directing the blame for this homosexual prank onto the Palins, WAPO is setting the Palins up for serious injury, all based on a fraud. Instead of attacking the fans of these shows, you should think about first getting your facts right.
So the gays are doing it to mock the Palins?
I’m not sure why Quinn should be allowed to have so many phone lines. I think the government should spread the wealth around. I mean, I do think at a certain point you have enough phone lines.
Here is an idea for Sally and her ilk ... get a life.
If that does not work, why not focus on voter fraud that matters in places like Seattle and Chicago and Palm Beach FL.
Just a thought.
Re voters, judges and producers:
The producers do seem to reserve to themselves the ultimate decision notwithstanding fan or judges votes.
Shawn Johnson's (winner of season 8) contract is available online here:
http://www.aolcdn.com/tmz_documents/0327_shawn_cast_member.swf
Se particularly section 2,b,v,G
It is a bit vague but does seem to give producers final say over the who wins.
See also how much money they make. For about 12 weeks they make a guaranteed minimum of $125m. If they don't get cut in week 2, they get an additional $10m/wk for weeks 3&4, plus $20m/wk for 5,6&7, plus $30m/wk for 8&9 plus $50m/wk for 10&11
They work hard for the money, no question. I work hard to and make nothing like that.
Good for them.
John Henry
Fen, The quote you used was mine. However, your next statement "...Sure, call us racist gun-clinging xenophobic ignorant teabaggers, then appeal to civility" is not mine. I have never called anyone names. For the record I'm not liberal but it shouldn't make a difference in the treatment of others. Your joining of the two statements misrepresents me. I'm just a conservative (gun toting) middle-class American (perhaps naive) who feels more comfortable discussing ideas than personalities and thought others of like minds felt similarly.
Yah, and I've been a conservative all my life but I will be voting for Obama.
The lack of civility really gets me steamed too. So steamed that the first time I champion it here is when a Democrat is attacked...
If you think multiple votes to make political statements or presumably hurt others is correct and doesn't unfairly penalize the other dancers on the show then state why and have a discourse on that.
Who on earth is being hurt by people voting for Bristol? It is a freaking reality tv popularity contest for b/c/d list celebs! Nobody is being “hurt”. Jennifer Grey was in pretty much the best ballroom dance movie ever. In my mind, that makes her a ringer.
What is the prize for this show, anyway?
I'm thinking the most recent generation: Brittany Spears, Christine Aguilera, Lindsey Lohan.
Re: Disney kids. I think you’re a generation behind. Now it’s all Selena Gomez, Jonas brothers and high school musical, right?
It was the first time I read this blog. Just happenstance a Democrat was being attacked. It wouldn't have been any different if it was Ann Colter or Sarah Palin instead of Sally Quinn as the topic. BTW, though I'm sure I don't know why you would want to vote for Obama, it is your choice and I'll defend your right to do so.
Dr. Sally Quinn, Madison Woman
I have read a lot of great fiskings, but *this* is a thing of beauty. This is the Mona Lisa of fiskings, truly a work of art.
The anti-Palin crowd really needs to get a clue: they hate her and yet keep making her stronger by constantly sniping at her.
Oh, wait - their desire to "stop" Palin keeps hitting up against their desire to make a buck writing books about her latest "outrage". When it comes to either making money with Palin as president or foregoing personal gain and letting Palin lapse into obscurity - well the left reveals its capitalist social parasitism.
I forget. How many times has the best singer won American Idol? Twice maybe?
These shows are about fan preferences for which there is no accounting. (Although it will certainly be a shame if Sally doesn't get what she really, really, wants.)
jennifer grey is the 'best dancer' because she is a PROFESSIONAL DANCER who has taken DANCE classes since age 5 and is famous for DANCING in a movie about DANCING. where is the outrage,sally ?!? does her being in an amateur competition seems fair to you? sheesh.
@alec rawls: i couldn't really give a hoot about bristol..i've only been voting for her to keep her cute partner, mark, on the show. there..i've exposed the insidious homosexual conspiracy for all to see!! i hope you're satisfied.
After all these years, some people are only now discovering that Sally Quinn is a vacuous twit?
I feel SOOO far ahead of my time . . .
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