Althouse: Obama: "We’re gonna punish our enemies..."

November 1, 2010

Obama: "We’re gonna punish our enemies..."

People hear echoes of Richard Nixon and his notorious "enemies" list.

Compare and contrast:

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Trooper York said...: You see the Puerto Ricans are American Citizens automaticly and thats why the other guys hate them so much.

Plus the J-Lo thing. Just sayn'; 11/1/10, 5:13 PM
former law student said...: FLS does not understand the difference between "opponents" (who are also fellow citizens - or in the case of many in Obama's audience - who are simply citizens, unlike the audience) and "enemies".

Let me see if I get this. Nixon did not have an "enemies" list, he had an opponents list.

By saying "I hope [Obama] fails," Rush was not being antagonistic to Obama, which would have constituted enemy status according to Merriam-Webster, but merely being an opponent. Thus Limbaugh is to Obama as the Giants are to the Rangers.; 11/1/10, 5:40 PM
former law student said...: "Latino" comes from "latinoamericano"; 11/1/10, 5:44 PM
Cedarford said...: Obama as Nixon.
Not a great analogy IMO, but suitable for the public meme imposed on America by progressive Jews in the media that only two great Demons existed.
One was Hitler, the other was Nixon.
Intellectually limited to only referring to Hitler or Nixon as demons - the American public and especially the Left reacts to either it's enemies or friends being referred to as such to the two men.

More accurate - Nixon never went against class - it was usually more specific, like certain members of a class. The East Coast WASP elite but not Cali or Texan or Chicago WASP elites, the Jews of the NY Times and WashPost and 3 networks but not self-made Jews, the "Gang of 4 faction" of Chicomies but not Tito or the WWII Vets in Soviet leadership. Not all WASPs, all Jews, all wealthy elites.

Obama is more like Hitler. Or, like Lenin, Soviet jurist Ahbramoff, Yagoda, Rosa Luxemburg, Mao, Trotsky, Stalin, Bukharin...class enemies, not specific enemy groups - exist.

Nixon was not a Marxist or a Fascist. Obama always gives off the aroma of someone that is, partially.

(BTW - one of the greatest feats progressive Jews and the Left managed in US culture was exonorating the bloodthirsty racist Japs and the Commie butchers to leave only Hitler as the demon of the 20th Century, with Nixon a sort of Bezlebulb lesser servant of Satan. When they do bring up Stalin, it is usually in the context of "But for that ONE man, the Soviet UNion would have been a beacon to the world of leftist, transnational, class-fighting, and progressive values."; 11/1/10, 6:00 PM
Dragon-King Wangchuck said...: Your question stupid and off the subject.

DADvocate,

I wasn't asking, I was making a statement. A statement regarding what you said here. Let me quote it:
Not nearly as stupid at you. Obama used the word "We're". That's a contraction of the words "We are". When one uses "We" he is including himself in the group to which he is referring. This is fairly basic English grammar, dumb ass.

So, according to your reasoning, a 2nd amendment advocate warning of government agents saying "we are here for your guns" is apparently in favour of taking away your guns. And if you disagree with that interpretation, apparently you are a dumb ass.; 11/1/10, 6:16 PM
LifeoftheMind said...: Richard Nixon was a complicated man. He was arguably a much nicer person than Barack Obama. Nixon was the man who went out to the mall to meet the protesters because he cared about them as fellow Americans. He was the man who as a young law student carried a disabled student up the staircase every day. He was the wounded soul whose mother was a saint. Nixon's fear and anger were directed inward at himself while he sought approval from others. Obama seeks approval from within and directs his anger out. He is the more disturbed and dangerous person.; 11/1/10, 6:18 PM
LifeoftheMind said...: Meant the Lincoln Memorial of course. See "A Man in Full" or "Nixon: A psychobiography" or the UCSB transcript after the press conference. Oliver Stone did worse than savage Richard Nixon. He got it wrong.; 11/1/10, 6:43 PM
Revenant said...: Dragon-King,

You're right that Obama isn't necessarily including himself in the "we".

But he is absolutely saying that Latinos should think of us as enemies. So my question to you is: does it make sense that Obama would encourage a group of people to think of us as enemies if he himself doesn't?

What sort of a person tries to get OTHER people to feel more hostility to a group than he himself feels?; 11/1/10, 6:55 PM
Ritmo Re-Animated said...: Obviously Ann was alive during the Nixon time (I know she was but a comment like that seems to argue against it).

Nixon "enemies" were personal enemies...people who he was out to get because they were out to get him.

Obama makes a clear difference between his personal detractors and those who are true enemies of modification and reform.

HDHouse has spelled out the elephant in the room.

Nixon's paranoia has transmogrified the right - and taken hold across the entirety of its radical spectrum.

Say what you will about Obama - it doesn't appear that the man is delusionally paranoid enough to require sedation with Quaaludes.

FOX has reinstated its own Culture of Quaaludes with a paranoia-inducing 24-hour scream-a-thon.

House has hit the nail on the head. Try listening to your elders for once, kids. And put the paranoia on the shelf for a minute and try some clarity. It will seriously do you some good.; 11/1/10, 7:00 PM
Trooper York said...: Jeeez, hd and ritmo on the same page.

I feel like when they mixed up DC and Marvel Comics and stuff.

Cool.; 11/1/10, 7:08 PM
Howard said...: Latino's are mostly the spawn of Arab caliphate seed. Who could possibly pick Vicente Fox from Saddam Hussein in a lineup without a scorecard?; 11/1/10, 7:13 PM
master cylinder said...: daily dose of stupid here.
see y'all tomorrow night.; 11/1/10, 7:25 PM
Automatic_Wing said...: Vicente Fox's family is from Germany, by way of Cincinnatti. He's as white as the average saity rally participant.; 11/1/10, 7:30 PM
Trooper York said...: Thanks master cylinder. We love when you bring the stupidity.; 11/1/10, 7:33 PM
Trooper York said...: You know master cylinder seems like a cool super villian name.

You know somebody that would fight Iron Man or something. Very cool.; 11/1/10, 7:34 PM
former law student said...: But he is absolutely saying that Latinos should think of us as enemies.

Why? Have you harmed Latinos? Are you on the wrong side of Latino issues?

For that matter, are the Democrats on the right side of issues important to Latinos?

Obama's statement sounded like a bromide to me.; 11/1/10, 7:57 PM
Unknown said...: Thatone'?they know what happens to tatooine?; 11/1/10, 8:07 PM
Revenant said...: Who could possibly pick Vicente Fox from Saddam Hussein in a lineup without a scorecard?

Vincente Fox looks nothing like Hussein. Fox looks like Joe Biden with a 70s porn star moustache; he's whiter than me.; 11/1/10, 8:11 PM
Revenant said...: Why? Have you harmed Latinos? Are you on the wrong side of Latino issues?

Oh, please.; 11/1/10, 8:13 PM
Luther said...: "Ask Rep. Raul Grijalva whose office has been literally attacked twice, with refried bean swastikas and rocks thrown through windows. These are friends are they."

And you know what, there's been not a word further from the local press about those 'incidents'.

Just guessing, but perhaps when my local press started digging they discovered facts which were... let's say, inconvenient.; 11/1/10, 8:29 PM
Dewave said...: Obama seems to have combined the delusional paranoia of Nixon, the feckless and irresponsible spending of Bush, and the overall incompetence and foreign policy failures of Carter.

Quite the blend.; 11/1/10, 8:37 PM
jamboree said...: @former law student.

Stop. Please. You're embarrassing yourself.

(Hey, hey, Nixon didn't say *his* enemies!!! He said "enemies of the party". Is *he* the party?); 11/1/10, 9:03 PM
kent said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 11/1/10, 9:09 PM
Rialby said...: Ha - you're boy Obama has retracted the word "enemies". What does that do to your shitass arguments libtards?; 11/1/10, 10:42 PM
former law student said...: you're boy Obama has retracted the word "enemies".

Hah. Obama threw "enemies" under the bus. Good to know you guys were working off your John Boehner talking points sheet for today.; 11/2/10, 12:00 AM
Fen said...: Thats what I love about the MSM - Libtards are kept out of the information loop until CNN or the NYTs thinks they need to know.

Its why FLS thinks Obama's retraction is a talking point and not a recent event.

Hey FLS, care to explain why Obama is retracting what you claim he never said? Ha.; 11/2/10, 1:47 AM
kent said...: Hey FLS, care to explain why Obama is retracting what you claim he never said? Ha.

Shhhhh. Cognitive dissonance. Exploding brain pans. VERY messy!; 11/2/10, 2:09 AM
DADvocate said...: So, according to your reasoning, a 2nd amendment advocate warning of government agents saying "we are here for your guns" is apparently in favour of taking away your guns. And if you disagree with that interpretation, apparently you are a dumb ass.

LOL - the stupidity keeps on rolling. The 2nd amendment advocate is quoting what a government agent would say, just as Ann and I and many others, quoted Obama. Quoting someone else does not mean you agree or disagree with them. That's established elsewhere. If this is the highest level you can think at, you should stick to arguing points with kindergartners. However, they'll figure out you're doing something wrong too.; 11/2/10, 8:13 AM
DADvocate said...: You're right that Obama isn't necessarily including himself in the "we".

No, you're wrong. Obama is including himself in the "we" the same way a coach includes himself in the "we" when he tells his players, "We're going to win this one." The coach's role is different but he's as much a part of the "we" as the players. It's scary that so many seem to not be able to discern something so simple. Of course, the libtards don't want to see it. Their role as useful idiots is to protect the chosen one from being seen clearly.

He is the more disturbed and dangerous person.

Yes, he is.; 11/2/10, 8:25 AM