May 1, 2009
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191 comments:
Wow. That's hilarious.
I love it just for the gag reflex that the lefties are getting from seeing the bear sofa.
Who is worse? Her or "Oh, That's Just" Joe Biden?
``Ya'' is eye dialect.
Isabel met an enormous bear,
Isabel, Isabel, didn't care;
The bear was hungry, the bear was ravenous,
The bear's big mouth was cruel and cavernous.
The bear said, Isabel, glad to meet you,
How do, Isabel, now I'll eat you!
Isabel, Isabel, didn't worry.
Isabel didn't scream or scurry.
She washed her hands and she straightened her hair up,
Then Isabel quietly ate the bear up.
Ogden Nash
Love the photo. Look at the Obama photo behind the alabaster Lincoln. Compare and contrast.
At least it's not a Polar Bear, lefties.
I like the way he says "Snowmobile" and doesn't respond to Palin's correction to "Snow Machine".
Anyone know what's wrong with "Snowmobile?
As I would tell Victoria:
"She's folksy..."
WARNING!! WARNING!!
Michael\Jeremy\Luckyoldson appeareance inevitable!!!
"Snowmobile" is fine; it's just not Alaskan.
Alaska has a thousand words for snowmobile.
This is wonderful. So many things that are guaranteed to make the liberal weenies' heads explode
OMG A dead animal made into a couch!!
OMG a dead animal period! The inhumanity. Of course none of the whiners will admit that they eat meat, cheese, eggs and other sources of protein.
Her accent!! How dare she not speak in proper east coast brahmin tones? Dropin' those G's. The horror.
Maybe something about her hair, glasses, clothing?
A hot motorcycle (haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure it will be awesome)that is made by a bunch of tattooed motorcycle bums, instead of an electrically powered shoebox sanctioned by Teh One.
I'm sure there is more.
Cue gmahal, jeremy, al etc. bring on the adjectives. hick, hillbilly, dumb, trailer trash, low class.
Oh and do be sure to point out that her daughter got pregnant. After all I'm sure she is the only teenager to do so in the last few years. Also bring up her "retarded" child and that she really should have aborted/murdered him as any responsible liberal would have done.
This is great. I just wish the walls had been lined with stuffed animals. Some foxes, wolves, geese, ducks,salmon, moose heads. It would have been even better if she were wearing a fur coat.....but we can't have it all. The head explosions are going to be fun....getting popcorn for later.
This is a snowmobile.
sheesh.
"Snowmobile" is fine; it's just not Alaskan.Agree, but I think Alaskans must be touchy about this. During the campaign, McCain was on Leno talking about what a great guy Todd Palin was and how he drove snowmobiles. After saying "snowmobiles" he grimaced and said "snow machines". The impression I got was that he had been corrected before on this point and had immediately realized that he made a "mistake"
Wow! She is a winner. Obama has a match coming up soon.
I just wish the walls had been lined with stuffed animals. Some foxes, wolves, geese, ducks,salmon, moose heads. .
Or Charlie Gibson's and Katie Couric's.
I watched that episode of American Chopper, including the OCC guys' visit with Sarah Palin.
It came across as very warm, non-political, and pleasant. Palin was happy to meet them, knew about their show and the bikes they build, knew why they were in Alaska, and happily chatted with them for a few minutes.
Paul Sr. and his team were respectful, cleaned up their language and showed a genuine interest in her state, in wildlife and in outdoor recreation.
It was all very nice, and not the sort of stiffly choreographed encounter with a governor that might occur in other states.
Palin speaks with an Alaskan accent. So what? Other than weenies from other parts of the country being able to make fun of her using their own peculiar accents, I mean.
It's a continuing source of amusement how liberal men get so unhinged by an attractive, outspoken conservative woman.
In Canada you'd generally call it a Ski-Doo, but that's like calling any tissue a Kleenex.
Still tons of fun to ride, no matter what you call it.
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Palin, Palin... Palin.
I would reccomend reading the derranged comments about this over at politico. It is both sad and distrubing. The fact that this woman gives so many people such a case of the vapors makes me love her more. Being outraged about Sarah Palin is way for the stupid and unsophisticated to appear less so.
- not at all contrived, so relaxed, lucky guy to get a hug from the Guv...... she's a fine lady
She'll be a breath of fresh air after Presumptuous the First.
Palin speaks with an Alaskan accent.She grew up in Idaho, and her accent is more Minnesota than anything else.
I don't think there is an Alaskan accent.
My favorite comment at Politico was this:
"What the hell is wrong with her handlers?"
It occurs to me (but obviously not to him) that Palin might not have much in the way of handlers. Why would a real governor of a real state even need such a thing? "Handlers" are for those in Permanent Campaign mode.
Calling them snowmobiles is like calling motorcycles motorbikes?
(Sorry couldn't spell right.)
Yah, that accent is ALL Minnesota, yah. Maybe that's why it makes me cringe.
Re: Snow Machine -- I think of snow making machines at ski resorts, something probably unnecessary in Alaska. But I wonder what curious dialect suggests that an X machine is a machine you use on X. So are boats Water Machines? Who is the local etymologist?
I like Palin because she's not "handled." And I'll take her droppin' her "G's" over Obi Want YourMoni's droppin' trillions of G's we ain't earned yet!
Plus, I think her dad killed that bear...
paul a'barge said...
She grew up in Idaho, and her accent is more Minnesota than anything else.It's a Minnesota accent only to people who believed Fargo.
Oh, if only Victoria didn't have blogger mortis!
Actually saw this linked off Instapundit last night. Hubby and I were laughing out loud predicting the response of the left.
Remember: Do NOT forget! -- The left is tolerant, diverse and inclusive. NEVER forget that!
It's okay to make fun of Palin's accent. That's soooo liberal.
It's okay to ridicule her family.
That's soooooo kind.
It's okay to make fun of her education -- which is the kind of education hundreds of thousands of hardworking Americans get through state university and colleges.
That's suuuuch evidence of her unsuitability.
Not so much talk of her philosophy and ideas.
Oh yeah -- that bearskin was in some other video I saw last year of her meeting and greeting. They weren't paying attention, I guess.
She certainly knows how the bear couch is going to play in the community-based-reality community. She's just messing with them because she can.
David:
I'm sure Gov. Palin, mindful of propriety, wouldn't have a Polar Bear couch in her living room until after Memorial Day.
Ron said...
Plus, I think her dad killed that bear...I also recall there is a personal connection to the bearskin.
But that makes it even worse ya'know!
I love reading the right's hysterical predictions of the left's hysterical reaction to Sarah Palin.
Sorry, but her whole shtick is boring now. Wake me in 2012 and I'll be hysterical again.
I love her, and I want her to be the president.
Isn't some guy from OCC married to Sandra Bullock? I thought he was a flaming liberal?
Seriously, isn't it an interesting, and actually a sad, commentary on the progressives how they have to marginalize, trivialize and demean those they see as competitors.
By ridiculing her they put the picture out there that she is a fruitcake.
A fairly conservative Christian woman friend of mine was complaining after the election about how inapporiate she was (winking?) but also how stupid she was that she didn't know Africa was a continent.
I hastened to correct her on the latter and sent her the documentation on how that was a fabrication by two fake journalists / bloggers / pranksters.
But it gets out there (thanks MSM propogandists, you sweeties) and people do not take the time to look at specific issues, they swallow the strawman whole.
"Wake me in 2012 and I'll be hysterical again"
Um, when did you ever cease being hysterical, Mary?
I'm not surprised that you'll be sleeping till 2012 though. It's not like you have to work or support yourself or anything.
I'm surprised that PinchingLoaf has been able to resist the inexorable pull of Sarah Palin's pussy for over 40 comments. I'm sure he'll be along soon. This woman is an itch that PinchingLoaf and his pals just have to scratch.
Seriously, isn't it an interesting, and actually a sad, commentary on the progressives how they have to marginalize, trivialize and demean those they see as competitors.
By ridiculing her they put the picture out there that she is a fruitcake.
It is central to their strategy, one the John Stewart media and all the Soros blogs are more than happy to play along with. If you want to destroy an organization, you target its leadership. You suck the oxygen out of its leadership positions. You personally target and destroy anyone who starts to gain some popularity. With the willing participartion of the media lapdogs and the nearly unlimited campaign funds certain to accrue from ownership of a vast plurality of the nation's GDP, the Party will be virtually unassailable until it self-destructs.
Yes, the bearskin was of a bear killed by her father. Bears in Alaska aren't really interested in just your pic-a-nic baskets, Boo-Boo, they are a true hazard and danger when they are in your neighborhood. I don't think the circumstances of the bear's shooting have been detailed, but it's very possible that her dad shot the bear so it wouldn't be a danger to the family, especially the kids.
As for keeping the skin, Alaska is a frontier state, with frontier folkways. It's probable that most families in Alaska have animal skins/furs in their homes, and Palin is probably proud of her dad for killing the bear, as any well-raised daughter would be in a frontier community.
Algy met a bear.
A bear met Algy.
The bear was bulgy.
The bulge was Algy.
I love reading the right's hysterical predictions of the left's hysterical reaction to Sarah Palin.
Oh, come on Zach. You know you want to play along. Give it a try. I'm sure you can be supercilious and condescending with the best of them.
Please?
By ridiculing her they put the picture out there that she is a fruitcake.That's because the lefties, especially the men, are very pro-woman. Just ask them.
They're all for women having equal pay, for being in the same clubs places men are, for having the same career opportunities, for breaking that ol' glass ceiling, yadda, yadda, yadda.
Then one comes along and actually does that stuff, and the leftie men, and a hell of a lot of leftie women, go batshit crazy trying to deride and destroy her.
And it's not just Palin they'll destroy. Look at how HRC got whacked in the presidential primary so a guy could win.
Hypocrites, they are.
You all crack me up. Did you not see the interview where she could not name a Supreme Court case and could not name books or newspapers she reads regularly? Trust me, the left would happily welcome Palin 2012. So will Tina Fey.
Well dang it all, lawprof2, you are slipping up. You were supposed to say "y'all" to indicate that we'uns is all racist red neck hicks and add you betcha as a cherry on the sundae
Although you did manage to slip in the "she's so dumb that she...." whatever schtick.
Keep trying, you are not amusing us enough.
"Palin might not have much in the way of handlers."
Seems to me that her handling by handlers in the McCain campaign was a big part of her major stumbles.
They tried to push her into being a certain sort, to match Washington expectations, and in doing that made her neither herself, nor a good candidate, and took away from her the very things that McCain needed from her. That and the fact she had to answer for McCain and follow his lead on policy, when it's probably much more the case it should have been the other way around.
It's too bad it isn't Andrew Sullivan's pelt draped across the sofa, but then, who'd want that?
"You all crack me up. Did you not see the interview where she could not name a Supreme Court case and could not name books or newspapers she reads regularly?"
Who the fuck reads newspapers regularly anymore? What is this, 1932? Actually,it might be.
What's the last book that Obama claims he read? His own? Das Kaptial? Bill Ayers' "How To Be A Wealthy Bourgeois Revolutionary The Easy Way"?
"It's too bad it isn't Andrew Sullivan's pelt draped across the sofa, but then, who'd want that?"
Actually it might be. Miss Sullivan claims an affinity for the "bear" community after all.
I regrettably read that article...
It really speaks to the gulf between us that conservatives think this women is fit to serve in high office.
Simply amazing.
She's also both dumb and patronizing, which is an accomplishment.
"Actually it might be."
I thought so, too, at first, but the bear doesn't look nearly deranged enough
Apparently Todd was home with the kids when the Chopper guys showed up. She told him that she thought that he would have liked them, or something to that effect.
As for keeping the skin, Alaska is a frontier state, with frontier folkways..
Well that's the problem with the left. Frontier folksy stuff isn't chic when done by white folks in a modern nation. If you live in a log cabin house and hunt your own food you're a redneck. On the other hand if you live in a grass hut and hunt monkeys with a blowgun in the Amazon while wearing a loin cloth that's fucking cool and hip.
AL, so we go back to the election time discussion about further creating a true and elitist political class.
How does that benefit democracy?
Or is democracy not important?
And, if memory serves me right, you still haven't answered my question from the other day.
It really speaks to the gulf between us that conservatives think this women is fit to serve in high office..
It certainly does considering she knows more about the Constitution than Joe Biden.
Gee, I’m a little bit surprised by the tenor of these comments.
I didn’t expect I’d be the only one who feels the urge to throw that bearskin on the floor with Governor Palin, Elizabeth Edwards and Rielle Hunter all on their hands and knees getting it grand Bissage-style.
And you know what? Now that I think about it, let’s flip over all the cards and throw John Edwards into the mix, as well.
We wouldn’t want to be homophobic or anything.
Duck, duck, duck, GOOSE!
I love reading the right's hysterical predictions of the left's hysterical reaction to Sarah Palin.It's all they have to hold onto right now, Zach. Don't take it away from them. They need it.
Oh, oh! That awful Palin! I'm going to swoon, I'm so offended! 2012 is just around the corner ....
And I am afraid. A storm is coming!
Well that's the problem with the left. Frontier folksy stuff isn't chic when done by white folks in a modern nation. If you live in a log cabin house and hunt your own food you're a redneck. On the other hand if you live in a grass hut and hunt monkeys with a blowgun in the Amazon while wearing a loin cloth that's fucking cool and hip.I think it's more, you live in a small house, canning your own vegetables, listening to country music and shooting game, you're a redneck and must be marginalized.
If you have an organic garden, covered with your hand-created mulch (including steralized "personal" waste), listen to Prairie Home Companion because it's so "authentic", and wearing clothes from Goodwill even though you could afford better, then you're a good person living a "sustainable" lifestyle.
ElCubanito:
Sorry to break it to you, but I don't hang on your every word. Especially when you put words in my mouth and expect me to defend them.
Like this "elitist political class" thing. Uh, I'm not for it. As a matter of fact, I was composing a "smash the oligarchy" post when I saw this headline at TPM:
"Obama Names Rep. Clyburn's Daughter To FCC"
But Palin has nothing to do with an "elitist political class." That's a non sequiter by you, an evasion.
One could be passably smart, not be patronizing and still not be an elite.
Palin is dumb as a pile of bricks.
Hoosier Daddy makes more unsubstantiated claims:
It certainly does considering she knows more about the Constitution than Joe Biden.riiiiiight......
You keep believing that.
Alpha:
It really speaks to the gulf between us that liberals think this women is unfit to serve in high office.
Simply amazing.
She's not dumb, and she's not patronizing.
Sarah Palin is looking and sounding well here and seems to be getting more media savvy, which is real accomplishment. Does this somehow threaten you?
Sarah Palin, the only politician to pose for a photo op in front of a turkey slaughter.Because she's so fucken brilliant.
And, McCain refuses to endorse her in 2012. She'll be a funny memory by then anyway.
Because she's so fucken brilliant.She did that just to annoy the likes of you! It was fucking brilliant!
Chicken Little, not threatened at all. As someone who wishes the worst for the Republican Party, I hope she's your nominee in 2012.
And, she's dumb. Had to go to 5 colleges before she could complete a degree. Just listen to her, she doesn't understand how things work.
And she thinks Alaska is a sovereign state (but, hey her husband is a secessionist, which is basically treasonous).
By all means, get behind her!
"Sarah Palin, the only politician to pose for a photo op in front of a turkey slaughter.Because she's so fucken brilliant."
Barack Obama, the only politician to stage a photo op in front of terrified New Yorkers by buzzing a jetliner through lower Manhattan without telling anyone.Because he's so fucken brilliant.
Chicken little:
She did that just to annoy the likes of you! .
Oh, is that the latest spin? She turned off viewers across America because she wanted to irritate liberals.
Wow. What an adult she must be. So big and grand. just the kind of leader a nation in multiple crises needs.
Palin 2012! Woo hoo!
Barack Obama, the only politician to stage a photo op in front of terrified New Yorkers Yeah. No doubt he personally staged that flyover, himself.
Someone actually involved already issued an apology.
AlphaLiberal said...
ElCubanito:
Sorry to break it to you, but I don't hang on your every word. Especially when you put words in my mouth and expect me to defend them.
Like this "elitist political class" thing. Uh, I'm not for it. As a matter of fact, I was composing a "smash the oligarchy" post when I saw this headline at TPM:
"Obama Names Rep. Clyburn's Daughter To FCC"
But Palin has nothing to do with an "elitist political class." That's a non sequiter by you, an evasion.
One could be passably smart, not be patronizing and still not be an elite.
Palin is dumb as a pile of bricks.
1:24 PM.
It's not putting words on your mouth. It's call asking for clarification on the implications of your statements. You still haven't clarified whether you want One Party Rule for this country. So, I am free to assume whatever I wish.
And, yes, Palin does not have anything to do with an elitist political class. That's why you loathe her so much.
And, she's dumb. Had to go to 5 colleges before she could complete a degree. Just listen to her, she doesn't understand how things work.
Can't you at least add something new here? This has all been gone over before, including the accent thing.
One could be passably smart, not be patronizing and still not be an elite.
Palin is dumb as a pile of bricks.
This is just your fantasy.
What is your basis for saying this? I'm very certain it's entirely superficial crap. People make mistakes and do dumb things sometimes. That's just part of being human. You just can't cherry-pick every silly thing a person does and declare them "stupid." By that standard, the only "smart" people are the ones that simply manage to hide all their mistakes. That's both wrongheaded and dangerous.
Here in this place we call "reality," it's actually pretty rare to be successful without possessing a reasonable amount of intelligence. That intelligence, of course, can manifest in any number of ways: great artistic sensibility, great analytical capability, great communication ability, great leadership ability, and so on.
Are you so perfect, Alpha-Liberal, that you have never made a mistake? Never embarrassed yourself? Never said something stupid? Pretty much all of us had, so what makes us okay and Palin dumb? The fact that nobody was taping us and mocking us on national television?
Whatever. You have your beliefs and are entitled to them. Freedom of religion and all that.
Palinisms:
"We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we're confident that we're going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?" --Sarah Palin, suggesting we are at war with Iran, FOX News interview, Nov. 1, 2008
"I don't know if you're going to use the word 'terrorist' there." --Sarah Palin, asked if people who bomb abortion clinics are terrorists, NBC News interview, Oct. 23, 2008 (Watch video clip)
"All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years." --Sarah Palin, unable to name a single newspaper or magazine she reads, interview with Katie Couric, CBS News, Oct. 1, 2008 (Watch video clip)
"I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you." --Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric to cite specific examples of how John McCain has pushed for more regulation in his 26 years in the Senate, CBS News interview, Sept. 24, 2008 (Watch video clip)
"Well, it certainly does because our -- our next door neighbors are foreign countries. They're in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia ... We have trade missions back and forth. We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state." --Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric how Alaska's proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, CBS News interview, Sept. 24, 2008
". . .I'm going to swoon, I'm so offended. 2012 is just around the corner."
Yes it is, Beth, and with any luck, Black Narcissus will find himself crippled by the loss of his stooges and useful idiots in the House and Senate. But I don't hold out too much hope for that. The vast majority of Americans have decided they want Mommy Government to change their diapers, so there it is.
And as for Sarah Palin? Well, for all the sneers that she's a subliterate snowbilly whose only reason for not humping her daughter's boyfriends is because she's too busy cooking meth and popping out retards - she is governor of her state. Since when has that been absolutely no evidence of capability? Is is just because she doesn't run a cool, thoughtful, intelligent state like Massachusetts or Vermont or New York?
I dearly wish those dismissing Palin would try to match her career. Run for city council. Get elected twice. Run for mayor. Get elected twice. Chair the Oil and Gas Conservation Commission in your state. Run for governor. Get elected. After all, if somebody as "dumb as a pile of bricks" in AL's felicitous phrase) can do it, surely it ought to be child's play for such intellectual titans as the port-side Althouse posters.
@Alpha: Make a comment about the latest video. Quit boring us with the past!
Sarah Palin, the only politician to pose for a photo op in front of a turkey slaughter.Because she's so fucken brilliant.
No, because real life happens even in the background of photo ops.
Real turkeys are slaughtered to put food on the table. Just because she didn't vapor lock and have a heebie jeebie fit because some some guy in the background, who was working and making a living, happened to be seen....ZOMG....actually killing turkeys, you somehow think that everyone who isn't a pantywaisted, tassle toed, latte sipping liberal is offended.
Personally, I felt it was real, appropriate and not gory or offensive. Now then.....if they had been chopping off the bird's heads and let them run around spurting blood all over the place, then it would be a different story. Instead, what we saw was a humane slaughtering process.
Just where the fuck do you think your food comes from anyway?
And, McCain refuses to endorse her in 2012
And I hope to hell he doesn't endorse her. McCain is a two faced loser.
Sofa King gets pissy:
What is your basis for saying this? .
Listened to her for months. Maybe she just plays dumb to appeal to the con base. Woudln't be the first.
Are you so perfect, Alpha-Liberal, that you have never made a mistake? .
No. But I'm not running for President, either.
Never embarrassed yourself? .
No. I mean, yes. I mean of course I have. Makes for some of my best stories.
Never said something stupid? .
no. I have said dumb things. but that was the exception, not the rule. Palin sounds like a dumbshit constantly.
Pretty much all of us had, so what makes us okay and Palin dumb? .
Right. you'l remeber that when Obama or Bide make mistakes, right? otherwise, see above.
The fact that nobody was taping us and mocking us on national television? .
Again, because we're not running for President and she is.
Thanks for everything.
Black NarcissusLOL! Sounds downright sinister in Italian: Narcisso Nero
Boy, you guys are funny.
Real turkeys are slaughtered to put food on the table.Well, I'm not going to eat them live!
Just where the fuck do you think your food comes from anyway?Farms, fields, seas, CAFOs, the fridge.
Your logic: animals are slaughtered for food. Therefore, politicians should pose in front of animals being slaughtered for food.
I'll bet Palin takes a dump every day (if she's lucky). Why not a speech sitting down in her outhouse in Wasilla?
Palin um would ah sound um so much um more ah intelligent um if she just ah learned um to be a great ah speaker um like Obama.
Again, because we're not running for President and she is.
Thanks for everything.
Woooaaaah! Talk about moving the goalposts! So, let me get this correct: you are stating here, for the record, that you are not smart enough to run for President? Doesn't that make you "dumb as a pile of bricks?"
Maybe I should channel your friend Jeremy here, mmm, let me try...
"Well how many states have YOU been governor of, huh AlphaLiberal, huh? How many elections have YOU won? Put them up here so we can all know how much smarter you are than Gov. Palin!"
Ok, that wasn't very good. Sorry. I did my best.
Barack Obama, the only politician to stage a photo op in front of terrified New Yorkers Yeah.
"No doubt he personally staged that flyover, himself."
No probably all of his underlings can send Airforce One and Two anywhere anytime the want without bothering to get permission from anyone least of all the President. Yup yup yup.
"Someone actually involved already issued an apology"
Sofa King:
Actually, I tend to think anyone who wants to be President should automatically be disqualified.
I don't want the job. That doesn't mean I'm dumb.
Are we talking about stupid Vice Presidential candidates?
"It's not just going to Mexico. If you're any place in a confined aircraft and one person sneezes, it goes all the way through the aircraft", he told Matt Lauer "That's me. I would not be, at this point, if they had another way of transportation, suggesting they ride the subway."
Now that's stupid.
Actually, I tend to think anyone who wants to be President should automatically be disqualified.
You think Obama should have been disqualified? But you voted for him anyways?
I can see why you think you're not smart enough to be President.
You spelled "fucking" wrong, Alpha. Best not to write a comment calling someone stupid that contains misspellings.
lunch break over.
Remember....
Palin 2012!!
Teabag liberal Democrats!
buh bye!
p.s. SK, it was a fricken joke.
There's a giant crab on the table.
http://s29.photobucket.com/albums/c295/wonderbingo/?action=view¤t=01941.jpg
Taxidermy gives me the fear.
That sofa reminds me of a smallish house I visited in Aspen. It was owned by a woman who at the time was divorcing a man connected somehow to MOMA. Along with rare impossible if not illegal to import objects scattered around the house like trinkets, pre-Columbian ceramics and such, the living room was every inch devoted to safari. Three antelope heads were mounted high on a wall opposite a large window that opened to Ajax Mountain. It appeared as if the three deer were enjoying the view. I recall a huge chandelier constructed from a pile of antlers, the sort you've seen many times, but this one was beyond elaborate, leopard pattern carved into a wooden coffee table with feline legs, leopard pattern sofa, zebra pattern rug, animal pattern chairs. Every object in the room was animal-related but oddest, most macabre of all and scariest, a very heavy real skull of a tiger held together by ornately decorated silver insets, which without its muscle and skin appears to be a saber-tooth tiger. Best though, and least offensive, is an African black feather headdress much like an American Indian chief's headdress except all black feathers, splayed flat against a large black mat so that the pattern showed by the contrast between glossy feathers and flat background along with the meager bead work and woven bits with dark thin leather strips, and strands of black animal hair on the feather tips, mounted in a Plexiglass frame. I studied it, mostly to distract myself from the taxidermy and also so I might copy it. By way of hobby, this couple also owned a shop in the town where they marketed some of the more accessible items seen in the house. It is an exceedingly strange living room and left a permanent impression on me, but not even close to weirdness as that creepy-ass giant bear pictured here.
I gotta admit, I love Palin. I disagree with her alot and don't want her to be President, but I do love her.
She is not handled. She's just in your face - "This is me, take it or leave it." I love that. How much better would this country be if our "politians" could just say what they really think and let people decide?
She's obviously capable. This is part of what drives the lib's nuts.
I love the effect she has on them. It might be worth it for her to be President just to listen to them moan and wail. Hell, she could not be worse than the pinko, commie, fascist currently ruining the country.
Also: Great picture.
Why are you all calling that a bearskin sofa, when it's just a sofa with a bearskin draped over the back? At least that's what I see.
Does one clean a bearskin just by vacuuming it? (There are no bearskins chez moi). Shampooing it? I guess it's like a shag rug lengthwise.
In the old days, this thread would have passed 200 by now.
Palladian, casting darkness into light:
You spelled "fucking" wrong, AlphaWrongo. It's slang. As in "Fucken A, Bubba!"
Palin's sofa could kick my sofa's ass.
JAL said...
"But it gets out there (thanks MSM propogandists, you sweeties) and people do not take the time to look at specific issues, they swallow the strawman whole."
That makes no sense. Did you just set out to use MSM, propogangists in a sentence but forget that it has to make sense? What specfic issues do you have in mind? Describe the "strawman" you think is being swallowed whole...
The idea that someone, anyone, takes her seriously is far past scary....by God, what would we call her? President Ditz?
Ya'betcha!
In the old days, this thread would have passed 200 by now.
MadisonMan: In the olden days there was more to feed off. Still, I think this thread proves that Palin is not going away any time soon.
She grew up in Idaho, and her accent is more Minnesota than anything else.
She was born in Idaho, but her family moved to Alaska when she was three years old. She grew up in Wasilla.
I would assume she picked up her north-Midwestern accent from her parents, just like I grew up in the South but lack the accent because my parents were from elsewhere.
Palin is a moron. What, it took her until her forties to become a popular state governor? Anyone could do that, especially someone "clean and articulate" who was given a free ride by the Alaskan political machine.
@revenant: Peter Ho solved the accent thing here.
You know I'm not exactly a huge fan of Palin, with her Christianist shtick, but if she's so dumb how did she get elected to governor and enjoys high approval ratings?
BTW, what is wrong with Minnesota? I thought that was on the liberal love-list with Al Franken, having gone for Mondale in '84? Suddenly because Palin has a Minnesota-type accent, they hate on it? What is wrong with you people?
Thanks, chicken.
Palin's approval ratings fell of once people got to know her.Back home, she's fucken up big time what with her lunatic AG pick who was rejected by the Legislature and her grandstanding on stimulus funds and all around being a dipshit. Palin's popularity is on a tumble in Alaska.Palin 2012!!
Here's a clip from her twitter: http://gov.state.ak.us/video_EmmonakJobFairlg.php
on an Alaskan Job Fair - listen to it. That *is* an Alaskan accent - dropping the g's etc, the "here's".
If her constituents with their "folksy ways" were non-white, no one would dare have an open problem with someone in government connecting with them because to mock it would be obvious racism- or really classism with a rainbow mask.
...but if she's so dumb how did she get elected to governor and enjoys high approval ratings?
The only way to explain it is to label the majority of people in Alaska as backwards "snowbillies"-(LOL Christoper!). That's pretty much what Palin's detractors think anyway.
I read comments on this blog until the become stupid bickering. Alpha Liberal does an excellent job of hijacking threads. When I see that name on a second comment, I simply stop reading. Same goes for a couple other commenters. I like good give and take, but stupid bickering isn't it.
"She is not handled. She's just in your face - "This is me, take it or leave it." I love that. How much better would this country be if our "politians" could just say what they really think and let people decide?"
Well... people sure liked that Obama was lying all the time. And if you figure that's what people admire then they aren't going to like Palin, are they? First, of course, she's supposed to have the correct thoughts on subjects... and then she's supposed to lie about them in order to get the masses to vote for her, while the fact that she's lying comforts those who consider themselves enlightened or elite.
Like Obama over gay marriage and whatever else.
Her *handlers* are supposed to give her the correct script and make sure she does the right things and soothes the right ideologies.
I think she has sense. She did the American Chopper thing the way she ought to have, emphasizing Alaska's 50th the way she ought, and she looks really good in that shade of green.
Very light and springy.
That's pretty much what Palin's detractors think anyway. .
And you know that because... you read our minds?
More like...
"You can fool all of the people some of the time..."
The idea that someone, anyone, takes her seriously is far past scary....by God, what would we call her? President Ditz?
Ya'betcha!
Says hdhouse. HA HA HA
Told ya. He/she can't help it. Reflexive insults. Almost like when you teach your parrott to say naughty words. Next..... a Bristol or Trig comment in one...two....three....
Alex, relax, it's just a border war. Big Ten factors in, for some, as well. Though they are not as despised as the flatlanders of Illinois.
BTW, I expect that Beth doesn't like Palin due to policy issues and normal political considerations.
AL and HD seem to love to wallow in classist hatred and derision and a bit of misogyny besides.
And it *is* it truly is a wonder and a joy to hear people who self identify as "liberal" spew classist drivel putting so much to the lie the fantasy that liberals are the champion of the common man.
As for the bear skin, I think it's pretty cool. Those are scary suckers when they're standing upright. Also, Alaska would be a very cool place to tour on a bike(machine).
AL said: "Palin's popularity is on a tumble in Alaska."
Just about every governor's popularity has fallen due to the economic downturn.
According to your link Palin's positive ratings have tumbled all the way down to.... 64%. Which is still higher than the One's average approval rating, in the midst of his honeymoon.
Well you can fully see lefty logic in full bloom when Palin is the subject. She's stupid, a ditz, a moron, totally unqualified to hold office as VP yet turn around and think Joe Biden is some kind of intellectual.
Hey did you know you can't walk in a 7-11 and not hear an Indian accent? I'm not jokin.
And it *is* it truly is a wonder and a joy to hear people who self identify as "liberal" spew classist drivel putting so much to the lie the fantasy that liberals are the champion of the common man.
Oh, but they are. They totally love the common man. Just so long as he doesn't go thinking he's smart enough to participate in his government. In fact, such thinking proves he's dumb as bricks, and thus obviously not smart enough to govern. The common man simply isn't fit to govern, unless he abdicates his thinking to the proper authorities.
Hey Hoosier...Talk about politically incorrect and insensitive. I'm taking my personal pet orphan into WSG and EoTS and planning to let him see real mayhem that will make those slaughtered turkeys look like a video game. THEN. I'm going to eat chocolate cake right in front of him after I make the little bstd run all the way to Gadgetzan from Ogrimar
Bwahahahahah!
And it *is* it truly is a wonder and a joy to hear people who self identify as "liberal" spew classist drivel...Whaaa? Criticizing the wealthy Sarah Palin is classist?
I'm not criticizing ALL rich people, just Sarah Palin.
MadisonMan,
I think there's a "Bearskin Febreze" available. It's hypoallergenic!
On Palin's popularity: 64% very or somewhat positive vs 32% very or somewhat negative. That's AFTER the war the media has waged against her. Yeah, I don't see why she bothers to get out of bed in the morning. LOL
BTW, what is wrong with Minnesota? It's not Wisconsin!
BTW, Palin's high approval ratings in AK do not mean she's good for America. Most Americans do not agree with her Creationist and anti-choice stands.
She's stupid, a ditz, a moron, totally unqualified to hold office as VP yet turn around and think Joe Biden is some kind of intellectual.
They don't really think that. Biden is just assassination insurance - nobody on the planet except Biden himself wants him to be president. Obama doesn't need security at all - he would be safe at a KKK rally. All those hooded Kleagles and Wizards and stuff would be moving obstacles out of his path in case he should trip and injure himself.
I like good give and take, but stupid bickering isn't it.
Ah, Buford! We have not yet BEGUN to bicker!
Sarah Palin. Guaranteed 200+ comment slugfest.
Just wait 'till the other usual suspects (or should say, suspect) shows up.
Don't think I'll wait around for the pleasure.
What could I have possibly meant by "we?"
Whaaa? Criticizing the wealthy Sarah Palin is classist?
The Palins are wealthy? They're certainly not "rich" according to Barack Obama. If Obama is wrong about this, what else might he be wrong about?!?
There's a bear in the woods
I'm wondering what the approval rating would be for Obama and Biden if they had been subjected to the same kind of press scrutiny that Palin was. It isn't like there wasn't plenty of ammo. Speaking of Biden and the constitution, there were a couple of times he referred to it for specific points and was wrong both times. That was probably the basis for the remark that Palin knew more about it that Biden does. 5000 years from now, archaeologists will know there was a President named Obama (some sort of a man-God) but not much else. They will know everything down to the size of the socks they wear of Gov. Palin and some guy named Joe that apparently was a plumber.
AlphaLiberal --
"Listened to her for months."
Odd, that's exactly why I tend to see you as ignorant and dumb.
BTW, Palin's high approval ratings in AK do not mean she's good for America. Most Americans do not agree with her Creationist and anti-choice stands.
So then it logically follows that only a pro-abortion atheist can now be "good for America"?
So then it logically follows that only a pro-abortion atheist can now be "good for America"?America is not yet ready to accept an open atheist for President. However, most Americans are pro-choice. Obama is religious and pro-choice, that's proof enough of where America is. At least 53%.
However, most Americans are pro-choice.
A narrow majority of Americans claims to be pro-choice, but that mostly just indicates that most Americans don't know what the term means.
For example, most Americans think it should not be legal for a healthy mother to abort a healthy fetus that resulted from consensual sex -- which, of course, is what over 90% of abortions are.
Hey this is a fuckin' rip off. When I heard Althouse had a photo with Sarah Palin and bare skin I jumped right over. What a rip-off.
Alex said - Obama is religious...
Where did you get that idea? From the black power political rallies he attended each Sunday in Chicago, the ones he said he never paid attention to?
Since he is opposed to gay marriage, maybe Obama really secretly belongs to one of those conservative churches. You could be right.
MM - this is comment 135.
Where did you get that idea? From the black power political rallies he attended each Sunday in Chicago, the ones he said he never paid attention to?That he attended a church for 20 years, no? Maybe he's not religious in a way that you approve of - but he does believe in a deity.
Bushman, you do understand that the president does not make laws, don't you?
Trey
Sofa wrote: "They totally love the common man. Just so long as he doesn't go thinking he's smart enough to participate in his government."
Yep, liberals vote based on intelligence and charisma while conservatives vote more on ideology and character.
Trey
Yep, liberals vote based on intelligence and charisma while conservatives vote more on ideology and character.Don't you just love stereotypes?
Yep, liberals vote based on intelligence and charisma while conservatives vote more on ideology and character.
Liberals like to congratulate themselves for voting on intelligence. The fact that they have this mutual "you're soooooo smart" society going has nothing to do with actual intelligence. I remember the press waxing on about how much smarter Gore and Kerry were than Bush. And yet Bush got better grades and did better on standardized tests than either of them (much better, in Kerry's case).
Is Biden more intelligent than Quayle was? No chance.
Alex, agreed, Obama certainly does believe in a deity. Do you think there could be some Asian influnece on this belief?
Just a correction: I believe the bear on her sofa is the one that she executed.
She has hunted and killed bear, and I believe that one is hers, not her Dad's.
As a conservative I vote strictly on ideology, charcater, and vote-the-incumbent-out. Actually, not not so much on ideology and character.
Late again. Oh well.
Alpha Liberal wrote: "And, she's dumb. Had to go to 5 colleges before she could complete a degree. Just listen to her, she doesn't understand how things work."
And: "Whaaa? Criticizing the wealthy Sarah Palin is classist? I'm not criticizing ALL rich people, just Sarah Palin."
Funny, I took nearly six years and four different schools to complete my first degree, but I'm certain it was because I was poor, not because I was dumb. I also got a law degree without any trouble (and without the benefit of affirmative action), but, alas, that was my fifth school and by AL logic evidence of dumbness. Ay, caramba!
Sarah Palin is the daughter of a school teacher. Todd Palin comes from humble beginnings and has not completed college. Nevertheless, they have been successful at virtually everything they have tried. Their wealth is a tribute to just how much they do "understand" about hard work and earning a living, while raising five kids and providing considerable public service.
Would I be going out on a limb here, Alpha, to assert that you and the other liberal twits who post here can claim no such record of accomplishments for yourselves?
Someone actually involved already issued an apology.Yeah and we have a administration who appointed a person THAT STUPID.
Apologies are so comforting.
A very short limb el Hombre.
Did you hear the one about the three tests Todd Palin had to pass before he could become an Alaskan citizen?
One tough family, they.
Most Americans do not agree with her Creationist and anti-choice stands.And how does that impact her performance as Governor?
Do you know who she appointed to the ASC a couple months ago?
Choosing not to abort her Down Syndrome baby was her choice. I thought pro-CHOICE meant -- for choice. As in "choice."
You needed her to abort Trig to demonstrate how pro-choice she was?
Hint: Since you might need help:
Palin Appoints WomanSurprise!
Why didn't she display Trig naked on the bear skin?
I'll settle for Todd.
Alex wrote: "I'm not exactly a huge fan of Palin, with her Christianist shtick ...." And, later, "Most Americans do not agree with her Creationist and anti-choice stands."
Why don't you give the anti-Christian BS a rest. Presumably, you are not an Andrew Sullivan understudy. Palin didn't push her faith on anybody and one need not be religious to be apalled by abortion.
Alex also wrote: "Obama is religious and pro-choice, that's proof enough of where America is. At least 53%."
Obama professes to be religious and to "believe in a deity" (Alex again), just like he professes to be untouched by the Daley machine. Professing proves nothing. Moreover, his commitment to abortion as public policy goes far beyond that of a majority of Americans
That picture doesn't phase me at all. I grew up in Wisconsin where deer hunting is a religion.
My house if full of animal heads. I said head. My father is a wild game hunter and has a place in Big Sky Montana and Northern Wisconsin. I would go to the meat market with my dad and choose what we wanted to do with the meat. Hamburgers, Barbecue, Steaks, Beef Jerky. We would hang the beef jerky all over the garage.
There are pictures of my dad and I and a deer hanging in our garage and spread out over the truck.
We have antlers of every kind in our house along with a moose head, antelope head, white tail deer head, mule deer head, bear head and every kind of fish you can imagine. Also, we have pheasants, partridge with their tails sprayed open, quail, goose and ducks stuffed. My dad's hunting room is loaded with all kinds of that stuff. The heads are "framed" by the state in which they were killed. Oh and pictures of springer spaniels and deer from some famous painter from Wisconsin named (I am going to spell it wrong) Owen Grambe.
When I was little I used to french kiss the animals and stick my peepee in their mouths, but I told that story already.
I am a country girl. My parents were also both dairy farmers.
Have a great weekend.
http://tinyurl.com/Palin-ASC
Sorry. Haven't figured out how blogger does links yet (I did something wrong, Chip.)
Oh and my parents have somewhat similar accent to Palin.
They do say things like alrighty then and don't ya know. That accent is found in Wisconsin as well. Not as pronounced but it is there.
America is not yet ready to accept an open atheist for President. However, most Americans are pro-choice. Obama is religious and pro-choice, that's proof enough of where America is. At least 53%."
As I said... some people want a liar.
Clearly.
They want an Obama who believes all the correct things and can be counted on not to worry overmuch about the unborn and *certainly* not actually really believe the Christian faith he professes. But they want him to say the nice words about how he believes that there is more to pro-life than just wanting to oppress women... because they know he'll approve any level of access to abortion up to birth. They want him to profess Christianity without any fear whatsoever that he actually believes any of that stuff, so long as he makes the right noises. And he gets a pass on gay marriage, utterly, because even if he says exactly the same words, there is comfort in the knowledge that what he says has little or nothing to do with what he believes is true.
Palin, OTOH, is frightening because even if she says nothing more and nothing more radical than Obama has said about her faith or the place it has in public service, it's assumed that she's not a liar at all, but is telling the truth. She can support same-sex-partner benefits for State employees and clearly state that she doesn't want Creationism taught in public schools, but she's frightening because she's not lying.
Obama could be polite to a guest speaker preacher from Africa and have prayers of protection said over him with out leaping back and shouting, "Get away from me you freak!"
Palin can't.
And all because no one believes him for a moment about what he professes to believe about *anything*.
All of this stuff about Palin today, does anyone find it funny that she seems to be the only one not wallowing in the past? I'm not saying that's always bad, it's just that she has, and is, getting the best revenge on this episode - by moving forward, and apparently by doing rather well.
But I'm still stuck on the election, and I let my blood boil thinking about how shabbily she was treated by the MSM, the elites, and worst of all, by McCain. It doesn't do my health any good to continue to revisit that time. Levity helps, so, since no one asked, the punchline is:
"When after two months in the wilderness Todd staggered back to town looking for that native Alaskan to kill, they decided to waive the rest of the test."
Synova - well put.
Alpha, you're really Joe Biden, aren't you?
Trey, I never stated that the president did make laws.
Said Alpha Liberal : And, she's dumb...And she thinks Alaska is a sovereign state.
"For I voted for Alaska to be a sovereign state..." said JFK, Sept 3, 1960. Will Alpha Liberal denounce Kennedy as dumb or will Alpha Liberal claim he mistook Alaska for the territory Puerto Rico (places where people speak with an accent all look alike to him).
Hey this is a fuckin' rip off. When I heard Althouse had a photo with Sarah Palin and bare skin I jumped right over. What a rip-off.
LOL squared. Trooper.. if I wasn't so in love with my husband and a 'good' Catholic girl, I would run away with you.
Except..... I think your wife would cut me off at the knees. So...maybe not.
:-D
Don't worry about Alpha Liberal and Palin:
He's scared of her. Big Time.
There is no other reasonable explanation for his consistent effort to spend time yelling and crying about her.
Throw a rock into a pack of dogs, and the one who yells the loudest is the one got hit.
Let's face facts:
Liberals and Democrats should be the happiest, calmest, most self-assured people in this country right now. Overwhelming majorities in the Congress and the White House - the whole Kit and caboodle. Republicans can't possibly stop the good times if they want to.
And yet . . . .,
There's that nagging feeling . . .
that the "majority" public - that "smart" part of the electorate - can still turn on them, and leave tham outside the candy shop again; in a flash. It's all so tenous.
And liberals and Democrats know it.
In one week, the "voting population" that welcomed into the city and praised Christ as the "King of Kings" turned on the same one and "voted" to put him to death.
In just seven days.
Naw, the public never turns. The majority has "learned", hasn't it?
So if you are a Liberal, Democrat, or both, keep looking over your shoulder. But I don't have to tell you that. You're already doing it. That's why liberals and Democrats get so worked up on blogs like this. They are never sure that the "good times" will last.
Freeman, is DBQ "flirting?"
We should be careful electing someone from the minor colleges she attended. We need another Harvard-Yale man--after all, they've done a marvelous job these last 50 years, haven't they?
Isn't some guy from OCC married to Sandra Bullock? I thought he was a flaming liberal?Jesse James (Monster Garage, owner West Coast Choppers, on Celebrity Apprentice this season) is the lucky one married to Sandra Bullock. I've never heard him say anything regarding politics.
I'll say good things about Sandra Bullock. Her parents, both musicians, raised her well. She donated more than $100K to help rebuild Warren Easton High School in New Orleans, and attended the kids' graduation ceremony. They have a great marching band and the banner they carried in Mardi Gras parades this year read "Thank You, Sandra Bullock!" She and her husband sound like good people.
Thanks Al. I didn't think any of those guys looked like the picture I recall. OCC and West Coast Choppers ... hey -- close!
I tried to find the link, but got caught on an infected website. So was scrambling around to make sure I didn't get infected. Maybe I'll come across it.
No offense meant, Beth. My daughter and I have both enjoyed her over the years. I just remember being surprised at the remark attributed to her hubby.
But! I might be confused. (OCC? WCC? ;-) )
From what I've read they do good stuff. And without have the Nanny in Chief telling them how.
Think this Palin thread will go over 200?
What with the Professor occupied with more important things, we will have to amuse ourselves....
Sandra Bullock was also near Ground Zero on 9/11 and pitched in, helping people connect through then new Palm, I think. She also gave $1mil to NYC first before the rest of the bandwagoneers piled on.
Am I unbearably shallow for liking her partly because she doesn't seem to have gotten a boob job?
Alpha, you're really Joe Biden, aren't you?
Hah hah. As funny as it looks when I write it, I have to say even Alpha isn't that stupid.
JAL, they might be flaming liberals AND good people. (heh.)
I just tend to admire people in their position who remain level-headed. I'd read about her other charitable giving post 9/11, sunami and so on. But seeing that banner come by in a parade this year was extra cool.
The first Mardi Gras after the storm, most bands didn't march at all. The kids were finishing up the year somewhere out of town. The ones that were back had lost their instruments and uniforms. Several schools combined to have two or three bands big enough to march, and used borrowed or donated instruments. The kids wore cheap track suits so at least they'd all match. But they played!
Over the last couple of years, the schools are returning to some normalcy - and this year I loved seeing kids in real uniforms playing new instruments, following behind high-stepping drum majors. I'm sure most of Bullock's money went to academic and building costs, but it was classy of the band to carry that banner through the streets where hundreds of thousands of people could see it.
@alphaliberal Classism is about where you came from, who you came from, where you went to school etc. not purely what you have or don't. It's not a straight money question and you know it. Palin is poor compared to most media types and a pauper compared to most of Washington. I hope she makes out like a bandit.
Think this Palin thread will go over 200? Amazing! Maybe not. I woke up this morning, and was idly playing on the 'net, and decided to check the daily Itchy & Scratchy Show with Jeremy as your MC.
Only 177? Where's Jeremy? What's wrong with you people? How will you carry on without him?
Back in -- what -- 2006?
"The motorcycle maker visited American soldiers outside Baghdad, Iraq - and is convinced the majority of the US military agree with him." [I think not.]
From democraticunderground:
James says, "Everyone in Iraq knows Bush is a d**khead. He's the boss' kid.
"Everybody I know who has a successful business who has a kid - the kid is always a f**khead. Have you ever noticed that?"
So hubby didn't think much of GWB. But I think he should have watched his mouth by assuming everyone in Iraq who liked his motorcycles thought GWB was -- well, you read it. (Spoken as a mother of an Army guy.)
That being said -- I really do like Sandra Bullock, and I see her as a Hollywood person with common sense and a generous heart who doesn't seem to let the celebrity gig entitle her to be our conscience.
Where are we now? 179?
If Todd Palin is a "successionist" because he once belonged to the AIP, what kind of "-ist" does that make Robert Byrd, who once belonged to the KKK?
Leftist hypocrisy. It's not just for breakfast anymore.
- JP
JAL, gotta disagree with you. I see no need for him to "watch his mouth." Why should he do that?
I think that Carrie Prejean is better than Palin at thinking on her feet. Maybe the conservatives should start grooming her for a presidential run. CA governor has been a good launching pad. She could be the next-next Reagan/Thatcher (since Palin is already the next Reagan/Thatcher).
"Watch his mouth" as in presuming to speak for the men and women in the armed services.
He in entitled to his unexceptional-in-2006-liberal-land opinion.
He sounded like a total jerk ascribing his opinions to the men and women who volunteer to serve and die under the Commander in Chief.
They liked his motorcycles.
Someone actually involved already issued an apology.All righty then!
Obama and his crew don't get that one can delegate authority but not responsibility.
They serve the country, not the man holding office. I've heard pro-W and anti-W from service members, current and former, along the way. Of the three vets in my immediate family, two would have said pretty much the same thing the motorcycle guy said, and the other disliked Kerry much more. So maybe he spoke for some and not for others.
I did not say they serve the CIC. They serve under him. He is the top officer.
They volunteer to serve the (people) of the United States of America.
Do you believe that most of the military agreed with Jesse James that George W Bush was a dickhead as CIC? Do you know that?
Thank your veteran family members for me for their service.
6:12 PM
Presumably the troops in Iraq wouldn't have voted 3:1 for John McCain if they hated Bush so much, but I suppose it's possible.
The big clue will be reenlistment under the new CIC. Soldiers won't willingly serve someone they don't respect.
OTOH, complaining about the boss is the right of every enlisted person.
It's one of the bennies of being enlisted and not an officer. ;-)
No, JAL, I don't think he's speaking for anyone - nor do I feel he should "watch his mouth," even is he's exaggerating or just plain wrong.
I also don't think voting for McCain says much about one's feelings for Bush - McCain's service speaks for itself.
Military service is the norm in my family, going back to the Indian wars preceding the Revolution, and so is a diverse range of political positions, so maybe I'm viewing things through a particular lens. We've never equated political opinions with any kind of loyalty to a particular leader.
Synova - good point!
In all the generations of service, I don't there's been more than one officer in my direct family. My dad made Warrant Officer a few times but kept getting busted down - he wasn't good at keeping his mouth shut, and avoiding fisticuffs. He did not trust the ranking crowd, all the way up to the Joint Chiefs.
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