১৫ অক্টোবর, ২০০৮

Live-blogging the final debate.

7:46 Central Time: I can't believe this is the last of the '08 live-blogging, but it is. Settle in. Let's savor these precious moments together.

8:03: McCain begins with a tribute to Nancy Reagan's pelvis. Second: Americans are angry, angry I tell you.

8:05: The first question, on the financial crisis, gives them both a chance to give a speech that they could have prepared in advance. With a chance at a follow-up, McCain plugs in prepared material about Joe the plumber who is worried about taxes. He should have listened to Obama's answer and responded very precisely to that. Generally, Obama seems much more fluid and complex, and McCain is wooden and overprepared, unwilling to react on the spot. When he's not speaking, McCain sits with his hands folded on the table. Obama speaks again, then McCain hits him with the "spread the wealth around" comment that Obama made to Joe the plumber. He's coming alive a bit now [McCain]. But I don't know how many more times he can say "Joe the plumber." If we'd put "Joe the plumber" on the drinking game list, we'd be sprawling under the table already.

8:17: McCain is going to wield a hatchet and then a scalpel. He's after the pork. Especially that demonic overhead projector. Did you have "overhead projector" on your drinking list? Now, Obama is talking about "earmarks," an unfortunate term that make us notice how huge his ears look tonight.

8:22: McCain asks Obama to say when he's ever stood up to his party. And Obama has (what sounds like) some good examples: tort reform, charter schools....

8:31: McCain challenges Obama about John Lewis's charge that the McCain campaign has been racist. Obama ignores it for a while, then finally gets around to it. But what did he say? He didn't repudiate Lewis, which is what McCain demanded. McCain comes back at him, with a bit of a tirade about what fine Americans there are in the McCain/Palin crowds. On the split screen, Obama has that look that I saw him aim at Hillary Clinton months ago. I think McCain is getting to him. He got Obama to tip his head up and look down his nose at McCain. Now, McCain needles him about Ayers and ACORN. McCain is on the attack, and Obama is stuck in the defensive role.

8:43: Palin is a freath of bresh air.

8:47: Nuclear pants... uh... nuclear plants.

8:51: McCain mugs when it's not his turn. He lit up when Obama said he believes in free trade. He's all over Obama about free trade. Obama doesn't understand free trade... and he's never been south of the border. Obama comes back, seemingly unriled. But I'm distracted by the McCain side of the screen. McCain sparkles with the knowledge of his superiority on free trade... or so it seems.

8:56: My son Jac is live-blogging too, and he just wrote: "McCain is back to the 'he doesn't understand' line against Obama, this time about Colombia trade policy. Obama: 'Actually, I understand it pretty well ...' Oh, but how can that be? He's never traveled south of the border!" McCain is trying to get under Obama's skin, but Obama is standing his ground. He understands what McCain is up to.

8:59: McCain thinks you're fat.

8:59: Joe the plumber is back.

9:06: Something about health care. Who won? I don't know.

9:07: The Supreme Court. McCain notes his record of voting for judicial nominees based on their qualifications. This is a good point, because Obama has voted against highly qualified Supreme Court nominees, while McCain voted for Justice Ginsburg. They're both against "litmus tests" (of course).

9:13: McCain presses Obama on the Born Alive Infant Protection Act and partial birth abotion, very sensitive subjects. Obama wants to communicate to young people that sex is sacred and we don't want any "cavalier" activity.

9:19: Education. Gah. Am I paying attention? Are you paying attention? Education is important!

8:28: The closing statements at last. McCain sounds over-rehearsed and he stumbles over many things. He says "abased" for "based." I think he knows he hasn't done enough tonight. He hasn't rattled Obama, not enough anyway. Obama is doing his final statement now. It's not particularly interesting, but it's filling the space, and we're probably not listening, because we know, he's survived the final ordeal. He will be our President, I think, and I think they both know that. They shake hands, and we hear McCain vigorously congratulating the younger man -- our future President, in all likelihood -- "Good job! Good job!"

9:34: No more debates! Can it be? We've reached the end. Thanks to both men, John McCain and Barack Obama, for fighting so long and so hard and for stepping up to the awesome task of governing this great, unwieldy, beloved country of ours.

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vbspurs বলেছেন...

Worse that having your girl call you a p*ssy and a festering c*cksore? I was particularly amazed at that last one.

Heh. I think that's an inside joke that I haven't heard yet, so I won't comment more. ;)

However, the c-word is intrinsically misogynistic. As a woman, you can feel the cold breathing of hate come out in every letter. It's hateful.

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

That breast of fresh air. Or that pair of fresh breasts.

al বলেছেন...

drill sgt - he said that right after I hit publish.

OTOH - there are several sources that put Obama at Ayers house for coffee when he started his political life.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Things I did rather than watch the debate:

(1) Gave the dog a nice long walk.
(2) Made chicken stock. Roasters were 88 cents/pound at Copps this week, so I cooked two on Sunday, and tonight I made stock so all the bones can go out for trash pickup tomorrow.
(3) Made oatmeal chocolate chip cookies.

Early bedtime tonight! I'm guessing I didn't miss much. For example, did either candidate say how they'd pay for their grandiose schemes?

200?

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

the drill sgt said...
[...]


Obama directly denied that this happened just now

8:41 PM


He's trying to do this

Lorelei Leigh বলেছেন...

I just think Obama's coming across much better than he is. I mean, McCain may be scoring points, but I think that those points mostly aren't going to help him very much.

Then again, I don't really think there's much he can do at this point, so maybe no matter what, I'd be disappointed.

kimsch বলেছেন...

Bresh of Freth air...

knox বলেছেন...

Obama must not be doing well, because when he talks, I zone out, he's so boring.

sojerofgod বলেছেন...

I appreciate the tips gals.
I think that McCain feels this is his last chance to make a case to people that he is a human being and not just punchy the robot, which is how he has come across in the previous two outings.
He is not doing bad in my mind.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Obama has been DYING to talk of Palin. This is completely a gift from Schieffer to Obama.

The smile McCain gave when speaking of the First Dude was terrific.

Simon বলেছেন...

Tonight I heard an apalling smear about Senator Obama. On tonight's debate, Barack Obama intimated that Senator Obama shares Joe Biden's values. That is an apalling smear against Senator Obama, and Obama should immediately withdraw his claim. I have said some pretty tough things about Senator Obama, but I have never gone so far as to compare him to Joe Biden. That is beyond the pale. That is out of bounds and Barack Obama should be ashamed of his brutal attack on himself.

(Of course, this will produce the peculiar spectacle of Obama first standing by himself and then throwing himself under the bus when the wind shifts, but that ought to be good for a giggle.)

The Drill SGT বলেছেন...

let's hope he asks McCain if Biden is qualified to be Pres, he can pivot... LOL

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

Oh, Schieffer is going to push on the Q question

Michael S বলেছেন...

Ahh, the return of the scapel...

Eva বলেছেন...

Huh, looks like there is a new Eva in town.... who likes McCain a bit more than I do.

Let's both start posting and make people think I (we) have some kind of personality-disorder!

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Cockamanie. That's a very 50s word. I think the 2000s word is 'toe-up'.

The Drill SGT বলেছেন...

give him the Biden thinks McCain is best

sojerofgod বলেছেন...

Come on McCain, you ought to mention that in Obama's world there ARE no special needs children... he would want the defectives aborted.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

"Why do we always have to spend more"

THANK YOU.

Patm বলেছেন...

Obama needs to stop grinning like a jackass. It gives the impression that he's laughing at his opponant. That doesn't play well.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Schieffer interrupts McCain a lot...

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

He said cockamamie.

And he's right - it was a cockamamie idea and this may be the first time I heard a candidate say this.

Lorelei Leigh বলেছেন...

Good for you, Madison Man. I'm just a political junkie who can't help herself, but I can think of tons of better things I could be doing right now.

sonicfrog বলেছেন...

Did anyone see, when Obama said "tit" in "tit for tat", the mens meter thing on CNN stiffened right up!

knox বলেছেন...

Nice words about Sarah.

Obama, don't you dare say she's not qualified.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Cockamamie Eisenhower.

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

Wait, I heard Schieffer specifically ask McCain if Biden was qualified. Did he fail to follow up and ask Obama if he felt that Palin was qualified?

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

I hate that smirk...

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Oh dear, now McCain is talking about clean coal. He's back to the old McCain.

নামহীন বলেছেন...

How does everyone feel about hair pie? Does that offend?

kimsch বলেছেন...

Schieffer asks about climate "control" McCain corrects him climate "change".

Hubby says climate control is what we have in the car.

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

Yes, if we don't use the oil from Venezuela, no one will.

LonewackoDotCom বলেছেন...

BHO lied about his involvement with ACORN, which is much more extensive - and recent - than he indicated. Now he's off on a distraction about who his advisors are.

Note also his reaction to McCain's attack: he could barely speak for a few seconds. If a regular citizen - not an MSM hack - really pressed him on something who knows what he'd say?

Chip Ahoy বলেছেন...

Ten years. What a nice round number.

নামহীন বলেছেন...

Phils 3 Dodgers 0, Top of 5th

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

no he asked both Peter

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

Climate control, yeah, Schieffer is a trekkie apparently.

Jen Bradford বলেছেন...

Now Obama is talking to the camera. Oh my, didn't Chris Matthews say only idiots did that?

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Obama tilting his head. He needs a hug.

Michael S বলেছেন...

If we don't use the oil from Venezuela, then Hugo won't be able to implement Ayers' indoctrination curricula...

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Who's winning the series so far, Phillies or Dodgers?

Pastafarian বলেছেন...

Obama's going to design cars. Is there anything that this guy can't do?

Patm বলেছেন...

Same damn questions, debate after debate.

Chip Ahoy বলেছেন...

How about gaping gash? Royal Gorge? That awful wound that just won't heal?

Methadras বলেছেন...

Mr. Barely is still using the canard that he was 10 when Ayers committed his treasonous acts, but is willing to work with such a vile, evil, and nefarious individual while invoking the name of Reagan and yet ignores these acts as a method of 'renounciation'. I'm sure I could denounce Osama Bin Ladens actions, but if we ended up on the same board to manage a program, would I sit next to him and work with him. NO!!! So Mr. Barely can compartmentalize the terrorist acts that killed people because as a matter of convenience and because Chicago politics dictates it.

This is why Mr. Barely is a malignant fraud. He is willing to verbalize away the evil acts of a terrorist and be able to justify at the same time that he can shake his hand and work with him as an equal. It's disgusting and repugnant and this is frankly why this fool is a danger to me and my country.

section9 বলেছেন...

I gurandamteeya that the Frank Luntz Focus Group o' Marching Morons will give the debate to Obama because he was the Nicer Guy and that McCain was mean.

The Drill SGT বলেছেন...

notice obama refused to endorse Nukes

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Jen Bradford - only idiots who are named Sarah Palin so therefore Obama is exempt.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Jen, don't worry. The tingle is still spreading up Chris Matthews' leg.

Michael S বলেছেন...

I thought Clinton was the NAFTA champion...

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

Hmmm, South Korea?

bleeper বলেছেন...

I am not watching this - did Obama spray paint his bald spot?

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Anyone else notice how neither man sent Cheney good wishes for surviving his latest aortic episode?

Chip Ahoy বলেছেন...

They switched color ties.

kimsch বলেছেন...

Your priority since you got to the senate has been running for president. You haven't been doing your job senator obama.

Michael S বলেছেন...

'Eloquence,' how eloquent!

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

I think that Free Trade Agreement was signed on June 30th, 2007. The One (PBUH) probably missed the vote...

vbspurs বলেছেন...

This is why Mr. Barely is a malignant fraud.

A cancer on his party? ;)

OOH! Obama never travelled south of our border?

Patm বলেছেন...

Eloquence...very good, Mac.

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Way to piss all the nations we trade with Obama.

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

McCain's lipstick is getting distracting.

নামহীন বলেছেন...

Phillies are up 3-1 in the series. They win tonight, they go to the World Series.

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

What's it look like on HD?

Patm বলেছেন...

Free trade - hard hit by McCain, and Obama is smug.

knox বলেছেন...

This whole fantasy that Obama's going to create wholly new sources of energy in ten years is absurd on its smirking face.

Donn বলেছেন...

(3) Made oatmeal chocolate chip cookies.

Yum! Handouts for everyone?

vbspurs বলেছেন...

LOL. Obama says he understands the situation very well, despite never having gone to Colombia.

He can see Peru from his house.

Methadras বলেছেন...

HA!!! Obama believes in free trade? How is that possible when his plan for wealth redistribution via 'spreading the wealth around' will get in the way of that? Not to mention his support for eliminating a secret ballot for Union workers that will basically shatter the union system. I'm for eliminating the union system, but not like this and not in this way. Not to mention that there are unions that are in vital strategic-economic sectors that if de-unionized would destabilize entire industries. The machinists union is the most obvious. If you destabilize that union then this economy will really take a dump.

Chris Althouse Cohen বলেছেন...

McCain's attacking Obama for not going to Mexico? Has Sarah Palin ever been to Mexico?

Frieda বলেছেন...

why does Obama keeps laughing on serious issues??? is he bored?

his misplaced laugh is annoying!

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Chris Althouse - YES SHE HAS! She said so in one of her interviews when she was grilled about how many times she has been out of the country.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

South Korea makes better cars than we do. I own a car from South Korea. Great car. Best large purchase I've ever made.

I'm Full of Soup বলেছেন...

Phils are up 4-0.

F the debate. Did McCain really being up the C t-shirt thing?

The watchers will say how come my newspaper TV station did not tell me about that? F the MSM too.

I feel like Gladiator - I want to decapitate someone from MSNBC.

Go Phils.

Methadras বলেছেন...

OH NOES!!!!1 The bad, mean, old white man is picking on the poor little blessed black boy. Oh what shall we do?!? WHAT SHALL WE DO?!?!?!?! Leave Mr. Barely ALONE!!!

vbspurs বলেছেন...

I like this debate, but it's making me nervous. It has an odd feel to it -- peripatetic, and edgy.

Needs more Joe the Plumber.

al বলেছেন...

The HD pic is nice. I just wish it was Sarah rather than John. Much nicer to look at.

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

IIRC, Palin has vacationed in Mexico.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Has Sarah Palin ever been to Mexico?

Yes. :)

Canada and Mexico both.

Michael S বলেছেন...

Palin's not a candidate for President or sitting US Senator. She likely had less need to go to Mexico. Her Natioanl Guard troops were in the Middle East...

Lorelei Leigh বলেছেন...

frieda, that's the overconfidence that comes from having a big lead. I guess he figures it doesn't matter if he comes across as an arrogant, sneering ass, because he'll still win.

He's probably right, too.

I actually think both of them are lacking in presentation. Is it too late to not vote for either of them?

knox বলেছেন...

"I so admire your eloquence..." Classy way to call him a bullshitter.

"Maybe you could understand a lot better" BAM!

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

And he has no idea what he's talking about on Colombia.

BJK বলেছেন...

Did everyone else see the eye-roll to Obama's response about Colombian labor leaders justifying his opposition to free trade?

(I love this debate!)

Methadras বলেছেন...

More 'spreading the wealth around' for the masses please. By the way, Schaefer is a douche.

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Reminds me...Kennedy's love Chavez too...keeps Joe III's "oil for the poor" going...he does commercials praising Chavez....

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

I mean, The One(PBUH) doesn't know what he's talking about on Colombian.

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand

knox বলেছেন...

Obama is too cool by half.

kimsch বলেছেন...

Oby and his ha ha ha you're so stoopid laughing, yet, he's wrong.

নামহীন বলেছেন...

Take that, Althouse Cohen, son the bourgeoisie!

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Mum just texted that Obama looks like "a puppet on a string". Heh.

He didn't expect McCain to be feisty, and he looks very meek and defensive.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

I am buying a federal pool too?!

Patm বলেছেন...

This is almost word for word the same crap they talked about two weeks ago.

This is POINTLESS

bleeper বলেছেন...

Of the two, Dear Leader (PBUH) has consumed far more Columbian than most humans.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

Can't "discriminate" on the basis of pre-existing conditions? What?!

knox বলেছেন...

This enviro-talk is such a drag.

Methadras বলেছেন...

Here is a good way to lower costs of health insurance plans. Stop treating illegal aliens in emergency rooms that are closing down because they are over-burdening the system with their little south-of-the-border ailments. That will see an immediate cost savings right there. Oh, however, it's so anti-human rights. Awww schucks!!!

Pastafarian বলেছেন...

How about mentioning tort reform now, when discussing the cost of health care?

নামহীন বলেছেন...

vbspurs said...peripatetic

WTF?

Speak regular American, limey!

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

vbspurs - you will be paying for everything. In fact, I will quit my job...won't be worth it to work...

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

Of the two, Dear Leader (PBUH) has consumed far more Columbian than most humans.

"I may not have been to Columbia, John, but I've inhaled plenty of goods from that place."

rcocean বলেছেন...

McCain hates fat kids.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

I was talking to my mechanic today. He said he is not a bright guy or anything, but he knows enough to understand that when times are tough, you don't ask people to pay more taxes.

By people, that means small business owners like him. If his taxes go up, he'll have to lay off at least one, or two guys.

JOE THE PLUMBER AGAIN!

Patm বলেছেন...

Every debate, the number of uninsured rises.

Methadras বলেছেন...

GO JOE THE PLUMBER!!!

Meade বলেছেন...

Christy said...
"Obama is a liar. He is the kind of liar that grows out of a dysfuntional family. He doesn't know he lies. It is an intergal part of his character. He lies to shape the world around him. He believes his lies. It is so very obvious in this exchange."

Well observed. Smart comment.

Michael S বলেছেন...

Oh no, not Joe! (my friend...)

al বলেছেন...

If Obama lowers my premium 2500 a year I won't have a premium! Sweet.

OTOH I'll be stuck at the E.R. with all the illegals waiting to see a doctor.

veni vidi vici বলেছেন...

"That awful wound that just won't heal?"

There's NOTHING awful about it, hoss.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

LOL, jdeeripper.

OOH! If you like that, you'll love Canada and England.

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

And there is no record, on his own senate website that he voted on the Peru Free Trade Agreement as he said (he said he supported it)

নামহীন বলেছেন...

Now 5-0 Phillies. Still top of the 5th.

nina বলেছেন...

Joe the Plumber! 8:58 p.m.

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

You know what Christopher - I was just saying this to someone today - not everyone has his Jr. year abroad....

veni vidi vici বলেছেন...

Welcome back, Joe the Plumber!

WTF is with Schieffer cutting McCain off all the time and turning the floor back to Obama? This is beginning to annoy me.

kimsch বলেছেন...

I thought there was a law that said if you were covered for a condition and switched insurance (from an old job to a new one, through COBRA, etc) that you were covered for that condition on the new insurance.

Michael S বলেছেন...

Next question -- define the threshold between a small / large business.

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Why is Schiefer allowing Obama to interrupt!

WHHHHATTT THE HELL WAS THAT?

Donn বলেছেন...

Where's MM with the CC cookies???

vbspurs বলেছেন...

won't be worth it to work...

Malkin (whose crap sandwich blogging I haven't liked, to be blunt) said to stop paying your mortgage.

What's the point? People who welch on their promises to pay back stuff are getting bailed out whereas the decent people are getting hosed.

kimsch বলেছেন...

aren't small businesses up to 500 employees?

Chennaul বলেছেন...
এই মন্তব্যটি লেখক দ্বারা সরানো হয়েছে।
CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Kimsch that's true, but you have to pay for it. Under Obama's plan, I will pay for you.

Get it?

LonewackoDotCom বলেছেন...

McCain's attacking Obama for not going to Mexico?

Under Obama, Mexico comes to you.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Now McCain will answer back, and Schieffer will cut him off immediately. Watch.

al বলেছেন...

Cookies? Are they fresh? Milk?

Frieda বলেছেন...

JOE the plumber is the winner...because he has become the anti-obama economic plan...

GO JOE GO

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Why won't McCain interrupt like Obama.

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

Is Schieffer going to cut him off?

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Joe, you're rich, congratulations!!

Patm বলেছেন...

If you just listen to this and not watch, you notice that Sheiffer gives Obama more time, and that Obama talks and talks and talks and says almost nothing.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Big government at its WORST, John.

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

why is he shaking his head? THat';s what you said OBAMA! It's on tape. ON TAPE!

Lorelei Leigh বলেছেন...

Did someone say cookies? Now that's a proposal I could get behind.

Patm বলেছেন...

On the radio, Obama sounds like "sound and fury" indicating nothing.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

I thought there was a law that said if you were covered for a condition and switched insurance (from an old job to a new one, through COBRA, etc) that you were covered for that condition on the new insurance.

True. And even if you don't get another job, you can purchase, on your own, a conversion policy which covers pre-existing conditions. (I know because that's what I did when I quit my job.)

knox বলেছেন...

Who decides what business "can afford it" ???

vbspurs বলেছেন...

John McCain is giving me 5000 dollars woo! I will put it all on the Powerball.

Patm বলেছেন...

C'mon, Scheiffer, ask about OBMAM-ACORN

Jen Bradford বলেছেন...

I pity whoever came in at the half-way point and is asking "who the hell is Joe?"

Lorelei Leigh বলেছেন...

"Senator Government?" Heh.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Joe the Plumber is the best thing to happen to America in the past 2 weeks.

Michael S বলেছেন...

Senator Government?

Zing!!!

Chip Ahoy বলেছেন...

Senator Government Ha ha ha ha ha.

veni vidi vici বলেছেন...

Senator Government!!!


Win!

vbspurs বলেছেন...

John McCain with a self-satisfied grin. He knows the Joe the Plumber routine is scoring a lot of points with Main Street.

Meade বলেছেন...

"Senator Government"

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

The Slog has an instant poll: What do you think Joe the Plumber is doing right now?

The answer in the dead? Fighting Joe Sixpack to the death.

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Only people who have been abroad should be allowed to hold elective office. It also helps if you know how to ski (or 'board) and have a trust fund.

But, anyway, Democrats are for the little people.

The Drill SGT বলেছেন...

McCain is explaining his health care plan poorly.

he should talk about shifting from employer based to personal plans, which are portable

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Obama is going to mention that Paul Krugman loves his economic plan, and oh did you hear? He just won the Nobel Prize.

Jen Bradford বলেছেন...
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I'm Full of Soup বলেছেন...

Vbspurs:

"Joe you're rich congratulations!"

LOL.

Go Phils! 5-0 bottom of five.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

Who decides what business "can afford it" ???

Our anointed betters.

Patm বলেছেন...

Senator Government?

al বলেছেন...

VB - buy a couple of Glocks first. Or a Glock and a CZ75. Then splurge on powerball.

Donn বলেছেন...

Did someone say cookies? Now that's a proposal I could get behind.

Yes, MM made fresh Oatmeal CC cookies TODAY.......the question is, will he share???

bleeper বলেছেন...

Expecting those two to discuss tort reform would be like asking John Edwards to stop chasing ambulances. Not gonna happen.

Joe the Plumber = cowbell. I like that.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

McCain pronounces "rather" like I do - raw-ther. That's old-fashioned or perhaps regional.

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CarmelaMotto said...Why won't McCain interrupt like Obama.

Because he isn't an arrogant, smug, spoiled brat who thinks he's God's gift to the world.

knox বলেছেন...

"transplants" AGAIN!

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Al, thanks! Roger J and Drill Sgt counseled me about the guns already. I am about to buy a Glock, indeed. :)

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

Joe the Plumber better hope that he doesn't have any skeletons in his closet.

DD বলেছেন...

Is it my imagination or is Obama talking about 10X longer than McCain? And Scheiffer keeps hurrying McCain along, but not Obama.

Palladian বলেছেন...

"Because he isn't an arrogant, smug, spoiled brat who thinks he's God's gift to the world."

I like McCain and all, but YES HE DOES!

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Obama = lismut test. ;)

knox বলেছেন...

Fundamental differences!

F I N A L L Y

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

This may be a tricky question for both.

kimsch বলেছেন...

Good on the Judges John!

Palladian বলেছেন...

Does anyone have a picture of Joe the Plumber? I have a whole fantasy in my mind already and I need a visual.

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Sheeze, Obama's constant smirking is getting very annoying.

McCain's getting to him. I am surprised.

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

Time for Obama to thread the needle better than he did at Saddleback.

al বলেছেন...

VB - good deal. Another armed female. Woohoo!

veni vidi vici বলেছেন...

Obama has nothing to say about the judges issue. He's filibustering again.

For a HLS Law Review editor, this guy's off on a tangent about Roe.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

DD, it's not your imagination.

It's a very good journalistic trick, because he just hurries rather than injecting himself into the debate. It'll be hard to complain about this, because it's a matter of feeling.

Mr. Forward বলেছেন...

"Senator Government"!

Pastafarian বলেছেন...

Palladian -- Joe's the guy in the picture next to my comments.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

Wow. I'm in the best position to decide another's life and death. And just for having female plumbing. That was some easy authority to snag.

knox বলেছেন...

Abortion... here we go.

McCain, please bring up babies who survive abortions.

I am pro-choice and I am grossed out by Obama's stance on this.

Patm বলেছেন...

Obama gets, what, ten minutes to talk, here?

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Me and Sarah Palin, Al!

...Obama is sooooo boring right now. Wow, a woman named what? Louey Ledbetter?

Equal pay for equal work, Obama? Why do you pay your female staffers less than your male ones, whereas McCain doesn't?

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

Is he going to overturn statutes of limitation??

al বলেছেন...

Will McCain bring up the fact that obama pays his female staff less then the men for the same job?

Palladian বলেছেন...

"Palladian -- Joe's the guy in the picture next to my comments."

BZZT.

bleeper বলেছেন...

I like Glock, they make a sound pistol. My brother does not like them. Some prefer revolvers - no shells flying about leaving evidence.

Find a good shop, preferably one with a range, get some time in there, and become comfortable with loading and unloading without harming anyone.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

McCain, please bring up babies who survive abortions.

Here we go!!

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

McCain caught him. Well done!

Lorelei Leigh বলেছেন...

"It was a trial lawyer's dream."

Not quite tort reform, but people have got to respond to good, old-fashioned lawyer bashing, right?

Michael S বলেছেন...

BAIPA...wow.

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

Ugh! Blogger is getting on my nerves.

The Drill SGT বলেছেন...

BTW Victoria, as a reader of your blog, I want to register in the queue (4-5 long ?) for your blog affection :)

not like 7M who wants freeman's interest.

I'm true and faithful :)

vbspurs বলেছেন...

Find a good shop, preferably one with a range, get some time in there, and become comfortable with loading and unloading without harming anyone.

Thanks! My dad is ex-military, and we used to go to the shooting range when I was growing up. :)

CarmelaMotto বলেছেন...

Yes - Joe the plumber was excellent because it caught Obama in an honest moment. Saying what he really believes and it sounds BAD.

kimsch বলেছেন...

Ledbetter brought a racial discrimination case, not a gender discrimination case

Palladian বলেছেন...

"And just for having female plumbing."

I hope you don't call Joe when you need someone to unclog...

Ernesto Ariel Suárez বলেছেন...

Why does Obama get rebuttal time??

vbspurs বলেছেন...

BTW Victoria, as a reader of your blog, I want to register in the queue (4-5 long ?) for your blog affection :)

Aww! Thanks so much. It's been too long that I spoke to you, Drill SGT. Hope you are well. :)

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Palladian said...Does anyone have a picture of Joe the Plumber? I have a whole fantasy in my mind already and I need a visual.

He looks like a skinhead.

I'm Full of Soup বলেছেন...

Still 5-0 Phils Top of the sixth.

Youse guys are making about 10 comments every 2-3 minutes.

I'll cheer for youse guys now - Go Team ! Cause the Phils have it in the bag I hope.

vbspurs বলেছেন...

LOL Palladian. Wouldn't it be great if McCain had said that.

This debate desperately needs humour.

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