২২ অক্টোবর, ২০০৮

I love Blogger!

You may have noticed that the comments box now appears at the bottom of the post page, looking very spiffy and making reading a comments thread much nicer.

But there's another improvement, the main improvement I've been hoping for. When the comments go over 200, they will appear on the post page once you add a comment. You won't have to click to comment and then click "newer." There is a downside, which is that you have to actually post a comment to see more than 200 comments.

ADDED: Oh, no, there's a problem. You have to post to see the comments beyond 200, but then you only see the comments on the group of 200 comments that your post fits, and then it's hard to see how you can ever get to any sets of 200 comments in between the first and the last. I don't think Blogger is thinking about posts that get more than 200 comments. How often does that happen (other than by some disastrous accumulation of spam)?

IN THE COMMENTS: AJ Lynch says:
It's very possible the new format will work fine for those posts done after the format change was introduced. Capiche?

Ah! I hope so. Quick, post a whole lot of comments here so we can find out. Post anything to get it up over 200 so with can test this theory.

UPDATE: Well, we pushed this up over 200 as a test, and, sadly, the news is bad. You won't see the over-200 comments unless you post, and at that point, you will only see the comments in the group of 200 to which your comment belongs. O, Blogger, why do you torment me this way?

UPDATE 2: Here's Blogger's explanation of the new function, recently moved out of Blogger Beta:
The embedded comment form is more convenient for your readers because they can use it to post a comment immediately, without clicking over to a different page. It also looks better, since it matches your blog’s style and colors.
That's true, but unfortunately, the problems we've encountered going beyond 200 comments make this unworkable for me. Fortunately, I can now see that this is an option, and going into "settings," I was able to go back to the old style.

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1775OGG বলেছেন...

Ah ha, use the subscriber email feature and click on "post comment" link!

Strange and not desirable!

Ann Althouse বলেছেন...

Oh, no. It didn't work!

Oh, sadness! Sorrow!!!

Ann Althouse বলেছেন...

Damn!!

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

After all that, I'm finding it hard to post a comment longer than one line. I feel as though everything should be broken up into tiny pieces.

Ann Althouse বলেছেন...

Thanks to all who helped perform this experiment. Sorry the outcome is not joyous.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

I dig the Subscribe feature though. That's a big plus.

But the impossibility of managing 200+ comments--yeah, that's bad. People tell me that Haloscan commenting is good and can be integrated into Blogger, but I don't have experience with it.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

Sorry the outcome is not joyous.

So it goes. Happy to help test.

I'm Full of Soup বলেছেন...

Phils win 3-2!!

1775OGG বলেছেন...

Yes! But another example of very poor software quality control and quality management on the part of web based software development shops!

What we need is either better systems analysis and design or better QA testing or perhaps all of the above. My vote if for the latter option!

Of course, criticizing Google's software is potentially dangerous to one's well-being! pity!

I'm Full of Soup বলেছেন...

So it's worse??!

I'm Full of Soup বলেছেন...

Programmers suck.

Bob বলেছেন...

Ann, you are quite the charmer to get these men to do your bidding!

nelda বলেছেন...

I have to post to see comments over 200???
Does it work?

Bob বলেছেন...

Hey, hey - lets not trash the programmers or you'll be finding yourself in some overflow heap.

nelda বলেছেন...

It worked!
I can go back to lurking. :)

Hector Owen বলেছেন...

I take it that Althouse's "when I should have been engaged in this" at 10:54 was number 200?

Hector Owen বলেছেন...

Must have been, now I see the new ones but not the older ones. And the un-editable preview: what's the point of that? This should have stayed in beta a bit longer.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

Shame on Blogger for having it out for implementation before it was ready.

Simon বলেছেন...

Seems to have worked!

Simon বলেছেন...

Oh no! It didn't!

Simon বলেছেন...

Freeman, it's a google product. From professional experience, I can tell you that this is par for the course.

nelda বলেছেন...

"I Love Blogger" is no longer an appropriate title for this post!

1775OGG বলেছেন...

Programmers would rule the world wisely except for the Dilbert type managers who couldn't wipe their own ass without help from their overly friendly Congressional Representatives!

Believe the world would be a much better place without those idiotic Dilbert type managers.

Hector Owen বলেছেন...

It seems to be possible to revert to the old style comments by going to settings, then the comments sub-tab, look for "Comment Form Placement", and select the radio button for "Full page." Since I can't tell if anyone's posted this already, I'll go ahead and post it myself.

nelda বলেছেন...

is there no way I can lurk without posting??!!

Christy বলেছেন...

There is nothing here to tell me if there are more comments after the last one I see when I post this.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

is there no way I can lurk without posting??!!

Google's like Obama. It demands that "you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. [Google] will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved..."

Peter Hoh বলেছেন...

So are we just posting inane comments just to run the numbers up?

Simon বলেছেন...

Freeman - I'd be willing to bet that the amount of money google and its employees have given to obama is frightening.

After this season, the next time a democrat tells me that they're worried about the role of money in politics, they're getting kicked in the nuts for being a clueless sack of s***.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

Inane?! What do you mean, "inane?" These comments are exemplar. Anyway, we already passed 200.

Freeman Hunt বলেছেন...

Simon, I don't doubt it about the donations. Ha for the rest.

Just remember, it doesn't count if the money is there to help the candidate of truth and light and hope and change and peace and love etc etc etc.

bigbopper99 বলেছেন...

squirt

Christy বলেছেন...

Even worse, I cannot see a way to edit one's comments after previewing.

নামহীন বলেছেন...
এই মন্তব্যটি লেখক দ্বারা সরানো হয়েছে।
Chris Althouse Cohen বলেছেন...

Well that's not so good.

rhhardin বলেছেন...

Rest assured that it appears on some recent graduate student's progress report this month, dysfunctional or not.

Justin বলেছেন...

test

reader_iam বলেছেন...

Just for fun, try clicking on [Atom]. Seriously.

This is not ready for prime time.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

I doff my chapeau to Freeman Hunt and AJ Lynch. You are real troopers!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

But yes, it doesn't work. You can't see later comments before you comment -- so how can you come into a 400-comment thread and make a current comment? And after commenting, seeing the first 200 is not easy.

I wonder what happens when the comments go over 400?

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Well, I could put in 147 comments to test that, but maybe I won't.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

I guess it would only be 146.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

145

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Wouldn't that be tedious?

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

If everyone commenter added 10 comments, though. Many hands make short work.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

What is Atom supposed to give you, btw?

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Paul's Club -- with the tree inside -- is still around. Titus asked that yesterday. Did anyone answer?

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

But I've never been there. I've been to very very few bars in Madison: Jingles, Regent St. Retreat, Badger Bowl, Merck's Trophy Tap, Village Bar, the Laurel, Pedro's. Hmm....maybe I've been to more than I realize.

Dust Bunny Queen বলেছেন...

This new comment thing really sucks. You can't comment on your blogger account without several tries. At least we could look at the the comments over 200 without having to post something.

I wonder.....do the people who program for Blogger actually blog? or do they ever comment on blogs? It's like a person who had never seen a car was making modifications to automobiles.

Dust Bunny Queen বলেছেন...

I suggest that Ann unsubsribe from this P.O.S. and go back to the old way until they figure it out.

Bissage বলেছেন...

My hovercraft is full of eels.

Bissage বলেছেন...

And I miss DOB.

** Sob **

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Oh no! I closed the window with posts >200, and now I can't see them! I have to post again!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

The best part of that skit was Graham Chapman running for blocks.

Nichevo বলেছেন...

test

are we there yet

Nichevo বলেছেন...

oh no this is wack

text test block: fgdhgfdf qwerty uiop hggggggggggj ghfjjjjjjjjjjjh gffffffffffffhj fggggggggggggj jhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhfg jjjjjjjj fgjhhhhhhhhf jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjhf gfjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjg jhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gjfghfhjgf.

Now, quiz: how much $was that for obama?

Justin বলেছেন...

This is unacceptable. I have to post another useless comment, just to read the new comments since my last useless comment.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Or you can hit refresh, as long as you are on the page containing your useless comment. But for a 1000-comment thread, I'm not sure how you'll get to posts 201-999. The first 200 show up with the post, and the latest "200" show up when you comment. That's why we have to get past 400!

I agree with Dust Bunny Queen -- the people programming this obviously do not comment on blogs.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Just a bit less than 100 to go before the next phase of the test!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

I mean more.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

More!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

MORE!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

MORE!

Justin বলেছেন...

Ok, MadisonMan, I'll help you out.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

MORE!

Justin বলেছেন...

This is going to get very tedious.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

If only I didn't have a full-time job!

Justin বলেছেন...

yes, I can only continue for another 15 minutes

Justin বলেছেন...

by the way, I tried the Atom thing. Now I have a bookmark in my browser that seems to point to 20 or so comments. It does make it easier to look at the new comments, though.

Justin বলেছেন...

i just clicked the subscribe button. I wonder what my gmail inbox is going to look like tomorrow.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Well, maybe I shouldn't wish for that.

Justin বলেছেন...

Hmm. How about this:

If only I didn't have a full-time job, but still had the income.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

But I am curious how to see posts 201-400 once you go over 400 posts.

Justin বলেছেন...

this would be easier if blogger responded faster

Justin বলেছেন...

me too

Justin বলেছেন...

one more

Justin বলেছেন...

I get knocked down

Justin বলেছেন...

but I get up again

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Because if posts 201-400 can't be seen, why put effort into saying something noteworthy and witty.

Or if someone posts something you don't want seen, just post one word at a time 'til you get to the next multiple of 200, and those posts are orphaned.

Justin বলেছেন...

you're never gonna keep me down

Justin বলেছেন...

I get knocked down

Justin বলেছেন...

but I get up again

Justin বলেছেন...

you're never gonna keep me down

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

This would be easier if the hostess would implore people to push the total up past 400, not 200.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

And yes, blogger is slow. I keep getting the conflicted edits page. I hate that.

Justin বলেছেন...

I agree, mm.

Justin বলেছেন...

sorry

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Oh why can't you behave? (not you justin!)

Justin বলেছেন...

I think we should all get paid for beta testing

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

after all the things you told me,

Justin বলেছেন...

or maybe alpha testing

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

and the promises that you gave

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

oh, why can't you behave

Justin বলেছেন...

a consultant is supposed to call me soon to help me fix a problem. I'm not optimistic.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Did they test this at all? I say no.

Justin বলেছেন...

oh, you're singing too. I get it

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Why can't you be good

Justin বলেছেন...

I think they did, they just weren't rigorous enough.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

and do just as you should

Justin বলেছেন...

it reminds me of Y2K

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

wont' you turn that new leaf over

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

so your baby can be your slave

Justin বলেছেন...

they probably fired the intern who asked about blogs getting over 200 comments.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

oh, why can't you behave

Justin বলেছেন...

200 comments on a single post? That's crazy talk!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

We hired one person to deal with y2k issues. I was glad when he retired, he was boring.

Justin বলেছেন...

haiku I wrote just now:

I don't love blogger
commenting has always sucked
unless you're unknown

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Oops, compile's done, gotta go test something.

Intermission! Let's all go to the lobby, let's all go to the lobby, Let's all go to the lobby to get something to eat.

Justin বলেছেন...

when the world didn't end on 1/1/00, I wondered if it was all hype

Justin বলেছেন...

then I wondered how much money I could have made if I had become a Y2K consultant

Justin বলেছেন...

and now I wonder what all those Y2K consultants are doing now

Justin বলেছেন...

no one talks about Y2K anymore

Justin বলেছেন...

MM, you're a programmer? Why did I think you were a professor?

Justin বলেছেন...

I've lost 30 pounds this year. I guess new year's resolutions can work

Justin বলেছেন...

this is the most I've ever commented in one day

Justin বলেছেন...

but I'm really curious about what will happen

Justin বলেছেন...

it's sad to think that my brilliant haiku may be lost forever

Justin বলেছেন...

this makes me miss usenet

Justin বলেছেন...

long discussions were much easier with a decent (and often free) newsreader

Justin বলেছেন...

free software is cool, but who writes it and why?

Justin বলেছেন...

I could write free software, but since I'm not a programmer, it would probably suck

Justin বলেছেন...

if I was a programmer, I'd want to get paid for my skills

Justin বলেছেন...

should I therefore conclude that the people writing free software are not programmers and that the software therefore sucks?

Justin বলেছেন...

I used "therefore" twice in one sentence. very bad form

Justin বলেছেন...

Conflicting edits

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Please hit the back button on your browser and try again. If the problem persists, please contact the Blogger Help Group. We apologize for the inconvenience.

Justin বলেছেন...

I cannot safely conclude that, because I have used a great deal of free software that does not suck

Justin বলেছেন...

without MadisonMan here, it just looks silly

Justin বলেছেন...

I'll bet the consultant that's supposed to call me used to be a Y2K consultant

Justin বলেছেন...

I've fixed more problems than he has

Justin বলেছেন...

I hope he's not reading this comment thread. That would be embarrassing.

Justin বলেছেন...

wow, that was close. My boss just walked up behind me.

Justin বলেছেন...

he was wearing a suit (slightly unusual for him) and carrying some papers. He looked busy. I don't think he suspects.

Justin বলেছেন...

bathroom break

talk amongst yourselves

Justin বলেছেন...

no one filled in for me while I was gone. how depressing

Justin বলেছেন...

I want to nominate this thread for best ever

Justin বলেছেন...

I have election fatigue. I can barely muster the energy to vote.

Justin বলেছেন...

it's cold here today

Justin বলেছেন...

and by cold I mean 62°F

Justin বলেছেন...

it's as if winter came early!

Justin বলেছেন...

I actually wore a jacket to work today.

Justin বলেছেন...

and I'm definitely not wearing shorts anymore

Justin বলেছেন...

but I'm sure things will be back to normal soon

Justin বলেছেন...

sunny and low 80's this weekend

Justin বলেছেন...

we've had shockingly little rain lately

Justin বলেছেন...

well, except for the hurricane.

Justin বলেছেন...

Burma Shave

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Okay I'm back!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

There is snow in the forecast here.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

talk about unwelcome!

Justin বলেছেন...

that last comment was a joke I stole from my second favorite comic.

Justin বলেছেন...

snow is never in the forecast around here

Donn বলেছেন...

Hope and change.....such a failed policy!

Justin বলেছেন...

one day, last winter, it was a little rainy and the forecast said it was going to freeze over night. the city (Houston) practically shut down. There were cops out with their lights on reminding people to drive slowly.

Donn বলেছেন...

I actually wore a jacket to work today.

88 and sunny here in Calif today.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today

Justin বলেছেন...

not only can we not drive with ice on the road. we can't drive with a rumor of ice on the road.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Madam,

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today,

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

She's so sorry to be delayed

Justin বলেছেন...

bite me

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

But last evening down in Lover's Lane she strayed

Justin বলেছেন...

sorry, I channeled LuckyOldSon there for a minute

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Madam

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today

Justin বলেছেন...

we're up to 377

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

380!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

When she woke up and found that her dream of love had gone

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Madam

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

She ran to the man who led her so far astray

Justin বলেছেন...

I don't know that song

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

And from under her velvet gown

Justin বলেছেন...

I'm really not obsessed with Y2K

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

She drew a forty-four pistol (it's Cole Porter)

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

And she shot that dirty rascal down

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Madam

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today

Justin বলেছেন...

sounds like Janie's Got a Gun

Justin বলেছেন...

what did her daddy do?

Justin বলেছেন...

it's Janie's last IOU

Justin বলেছেন...

she had to take him down easy and put a bullet in his brain

Justin বলেছেন...

hey hey hey hey

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

There are some lyrics pages from which you can't grab lines by mouse clicking, so I won't be writing Anything Goes for my next trick.

But we're near 400 anyway

Justin বলেছেন...

but man! he had it comin'

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

The whole thing's come un-done

Much like blogger!

Justin বলেছেন...

I type them from memory

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Althouse's got a gun!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Hey! How can I see comments 200-400!!!!!

Justin বলেছেন...

ok, we're over 400

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

I have to say that justin wrote the funniest thing on a blog page I have ever ever seen. It was around comment #380 -- sorry no one else can see it now!

It was better than the funniest joke ever written. I hope he didn't die!

Justin বলেছেন...

well, since you've been commenting all this time, you can hit the back button. Anyone who's coming straight to the page is out of luck.

There goes my brilliant haiku.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

(phew), he's posted again.

Justin বলেছেন...

Why thank you.

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

I know, I can sell a url that contains a link to a comment in the 201-400 range. Business opportunity knocks!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Blogger are you listening? This new posting protocol is piss poor.

Back to the drawing board! And back to work for me. Thanks Justin!

MadisonMan বলেছেন...

Couldn't have done it without you!

Justin বলেছেন...

I've been looking for a good money-making scheme! Now you've got competition!

Justin বলেছেন...

No problem. It was fun. Wanna hang out and see what happens at 1000?

Justin বলেছেন...

1000 bottles of beer on the wall, 1000 bottles of beer. Take one down, pass it around. 999 bottles of beer on the wall!

Justin বলেছেন...

who's with me?

Justin বলেছেন...

is this thing on?

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