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"I didn't hesitate, no," Sarah Palin told Charlie Gibson.
"I answered him 'yes' because I have the confidence in that readiness and knowing that you can't blink, you have to be wired in a way of being so committed to the mission, the mission that we're on, reform of this country and victory in the war, you can't blink. So I didn't blink then even when asked to run as his running mate."
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«সবচেয়ে পুরাতন ‹পুরাতন 548 এর 401 – থেকে 548Wow. A total transformation. She looks MUCH better here. It's amazing what editing can do.
Synova
If Georgia wants to swing it's dick around it had better be prepared for the consequences is all I'm saying.
Darfur and Burma are a bit different as their own government are responsible for the brutality against it's own citizens creating the hellish humanitarian situation.
Sorry for the lame reply I'm a bit distracted watching MSNBC coverage of 9/11 as it happend that day. No words.
mtbomber, I can't penetrate your blizzard of words, but I can tell you that you're paranoid because you think Bush was getting wired answers during the 04 debates.
He was probably wearing a BPV.
This is the only I'm going to say this:
I don't talk to trolls. I'm sorry I defended, even cursorily, any person I considered to be posting in good faith last week. You can talk until you're blue in the face to me. You're nothing but excrement to me.
vbspurs - You don't know why McCain crashed and was captured, do you?
Google it and learn.
They make her look bad for the most watched portion? Shockah!
Who here reads the 8000-word, two-paragraph treatises by paranoid leftist loons?
Wow. A total transformation. She looks MUCH better here. It's amazing what editing can do.
I'm stunned! She looks forceful, knowledgeable, and the Sarah Palin I have come to know in every Youtube interview I've watched.
And great, no one is watching at 11:35. Yuck, ABC.
It's just airing here, and WOW is it heavily edited. It should be a standard feature of contracts that no one goes on camera without a camcorder running and the right to put the original on youtube when the network distorts it.
george said...
erniecu73, I'm pretty sure the Nixon Doctrine was coined while he was in office.
10:37 PM
Was it? And how many people actually knew it? And how many people for that matter know the origins, contents and specifics of the almost 200 year old Monroe Doctrine? (don't run to Wikipedia now!)
Was it ever used as a litmus test of some sort in electoral politics? Has any presidential doctrine been in fact used as a litmus test in electoral politics in the last 60-70 years?
The point is that this is a very flimsy anti-Palin meme. It just doesn't hold, and it will continue to reflect poorly on those who hold it.
It's obvious now that ABC was acting in bad faith, and they still could only deliver one highly questionable minor issue.
Gas line, this is her forte.
vbspurs - I don't need or request any form of response from you.
You don't appear to be very well read, and merely repeat Republican talking points again and again.
I talk at you.
It's obvious now that ABC was acting in bad faith, and they still could only deliver one highly questionable minor issue.
It's exactly that -- in bad faith. I'm going to write a post on this, and email other bloggers.
LOL! "I think you are a cynic".
Was that it? Pff. I guess they will stretch it more in the one hour 20/20 tomorrow, when no one will be watching.
Sadly, I know more about foreign policy than she does, and I don't even pretend to be running for President.
Wow, funny stuff. You sure have some view of yourself. So I take it you are currently the governor of a state or maybe your just a chump. Do you think a governor of a state just hangs out and hunts moose. Politics and governing is their full time job. Its possible that just maybe they read the newspaper too.
Take the blinders off before it is too late. You may disagree with Obama on every issue, but you cannot deny that he is serious, well versed and completely conversant with national security and foreign policy issues, can hold his own with heads of state, is already respected in Europe, and has been publicly vetted by a 19 month national
Wow, that is some defense of Obama. I will hand it to you though, your blistering defense of Obama's experience is a good attempt to prove that he is slightly more experienced to be Vice-President than Sarah Palin. (But, that is still up for debate).
But, Obama isn't standing for Vice-President. He is running for President, and for that position he is breathtakingly unqualified.
p.s. I am rolling on the floor laughing regarding your comment about how he is more "respected" in Europe. Funny stuff. Earth to MTBomber, Europeans have their own interests in mind first, not Americas'. Maybe you should consider that before accepting their love for him too much.
Don't worry, EVERYONE will be watching 20/20 tomorrow...and hopefully they'll have learned their lesson by then and treat her fairly. If they do, then she will be spectacular.
Michael said...
"Simon says: 'amorphous, ill-defined term' I say: Insecure?"
And I say amorphous, ill-defined term, one used by the leftosphere to describe whatever their pet talking point is this week. "Bush doctrine" has about about 469,000 hits on google; that's it. I'm still waiting for someone to tell me how many hits it gets on Lexis.
Europeans have their own interests in mind first, not Americas'.
Gordon Brown, our mortician PM, gave Obama the kiss of death -- he endorsed him.
That man stinks of loser.
It's just airing here, and WOW is it heavily edited. It should be a standard feature of contracts that no one goes on camera without a camcorder running and the right to put the original on youtube when the network distorts it.
EXACTLY.
AlphaLiberal said...
Sarah Palin's handpicked Wasilla police chief demands that women pay for medical exams when victims, or suspected victims, of rape.
Gee, that Sarah Palin is a real feminist. Do they charge any other crime victims for forensic investigation? Why just rape victims?
He, pooch, it is a medical procedure, not just a forensic investigation. Get your facts straight or STFU.
If you get beat up, stabbed,or shot and wind up in the hospital you pay the bill for medical procedures, or you insurance does. Happy now.
You know, Michael, this "well-read" crap the lefties continue to throw around is just frakkin' annoying. Most of you are not well read at all. You can read some article in Wikipedia or maybe a magazine, but for the lot of you, that is the extent of your reading. Get through Das Kapital, The Theory of Revolution and Scientific Communism (Popov's) and get back to me. I did it, and I can tell you abut it. Read The Revolt of the Masses by Ortega y Gassett. Hell, read all of Shakespeare and Cervantes, and then come back, and tell anyone they are not well read. In the meantime, find some other silly offense to throw around.
Are people here actually trying to say that not knowing what a current President's foreign policy doctrine is...is just fine...when that person is currently running for V.P.??
Knowing there's a possibility she and McCain would be taking over for if they win??
Oh, c'mon...be honest for once and admit she should have at least been briefed able to articulate some semblance of a reasonably acceptable answer.
If Obama had been asked this question and fumbled around like Palin did, 99% of the people here would have been frothing at the mouth.
I do find it fascinating that some many fringe leftists have being liked by Europeans so high on their list of good qualities. It's a hardy perennial, too.
Another good one is the one about Sweden's socialist system, which has been a shambles for 20 years and is in the process of substantial demolition. You still hear that one on occasion.
You go, lefties. Keep spouting your static gospel. Maybe you can one day elect someone who isn't the proximate cause of the loss of the House and isn't forced to govern as an Eisenhower Republican.
Michael,
He already does fumble around--his paygrade is "FU"--fumbler.
Did you see his BOR and Saddlebacking?
Gordon Brown, our mortician PM, gave Obama the kiss of death -- he endorsed him.
That man stinks of loser.
LOL
Surely this scandal will stick.
I just checked TalkLeft. Thought the wording on the original post is negative, the comments are even supportive of her positions -- also mainly positive reviews of how she did.
I wonder if they are talking about this one, or the 6:30 PM one. I didn't see.
erniecu73 said..."You know, Michael, this "well-read" crap the lefties continue to throw around is just frakkin' annoying."
Especially to those who aren't.
Okay, guys, I might be back but just in case, good night. :)
I feel very relieved now. And just to say, September 11th is not just one day -- it's every day for me. Every day to honour and love America, and those who protect her.
I will now play Yankee Doodle Dandy on my kazoo.
Night!
Victoria
I enjoy the MSM self-destruction. They actually sat there and decided to put the bad stuff up first, apparently poorly edited, and played 2 crappy hands of fish (fishing for Barracuda, not prudent), and think people will buy it. Shameful! If you're going to flog someone with a quotation, try to get it right. Sheesh.
I'm still reeling over the difference between the 6:30 and 11:30 versions. At 6:30, I'd say she did just ok. At 11:30, I'd say she knocked it out of the park. It seemed clear to me that she had an idea of the Bush Doctrine that was, correctly, much more broad than Gibson's narrow, and now incorrect, idea. She schooled his ass! I can't believe editing can make such a difference.
michael, don't be silly now. The question was framed as a very specific item one: The Bush Doctrine. It wasn't the broad "foreign policy" one you are trying to paint it as. You know this, the back of your head knows this, and even your typing hand knows this. Be honest to your body, accept it.
She asked for it to be more specific, that's all. Even if the question would have been "Do you agree with the current president's foreign policies?", it would have been fair to ask for the interviewer to be more specific, to pick one or two or a few items of it, and go from there. Or to be more specific and say "In general".
You can't win this one, seriously, let it go.
Michael said...
vbspurs - You don't know why McCain crashed and was captured, do you?
Google it and learn.
I suppose you are going to give some expert and informed conspriacy theory about it. Just like your informed theries on so called "rape kits".
Did they bring Bashir back for the Palin caper, because maybe they dont want to expose the regulars to what they are about to do to Palin?
michael, your mother called. She says she doesn't want you to stay up too late. The slumber party is over.
erniecu73 - WOW!!!! You is really a well read kinda guy.
I wish we could ALLLLLLL be like you.
All those big books!!
And you read them?
Even the ones with the little print?
You don't know why McCain crashed and was captured
This is it! This is the one. This is the scandal that will stick. Let's run with it.
Oh, c'mon...be honest for once and admit she should have at least been briefed able to articulate some semblance of a reasonably acceptable answer.
She does know, but because there are numeruous Bush doctrines, she wanted to find out which Bush Doctrine Gibson was asking about. It turns out Gibson was asking about something that isn't a Bush Doctrine. Preventive war was invented by the Romans. Palin was smart to ask.
Michael said...
Are people here actually trying to say that not knowing what a current President's foreign policy doctrine is...is just fine...when that person is currently running for V.P.??
Absolutely. The policy is irrelevant. It dies when Bush leaves office. Who cares? What part of the ne president creates his own policy don't you understand.
This is why children should not be allowed opinions.
It's not about Palin, it's about McCain, and hypocrisy.
Country First? No, politics and power above all else.
Maverick? No, he backed down from his #1 choice of a former democrat and close confident who he trusts and who, whatever you think of him, is qualified -- Lieberman -- because of a right wing veto communicated to him by Rove himself, and now he saddles us with a deeply unqualified running mate. If I were a McCain supporter, I would be pissed that voting for him now means that we have to take his word for it, that this person we hardly know, and who seems very insubstantial on matters of foreign policy and national security, may become President in as little as 90 days, god forbid he keels over and drops dead like his father did (at 71) or his grandfather did (in his 60's), in a very dangerous world. I actually took national security seriously, but it's now obvious that to McCain, it was mostly politics after all.
Elevate the campaign? No, apparently he thinks that Obama's declining to do a series of Town Halls with him has somehow forced him to run one of the dirtiest, most dishonest and ultimately stupidest Presidential campaigns ever -- the worst I have seen in my 50 years on the planet -- and, ironically, the same sleazy campaign that Bush ran against him in 2000, brought to you by the same guyd. He literally chose the very architect of the attacks he complained about so bitterly in 200 - Eskew -- to run Palin's campaign.
Experience and judgment? No, old age, recklessness and a man so entrenched in the Washington lobbyist world for so long -- 26 years -- that he says in his speeches that he will take on lobbyists, while assuming that we won't notice him staffing his campaign with over 100 of them, including 7 of his innermost advisors.
This is the one decision he makes this fall, the one measure of how he will be as a President, and while you may all love her to death, she scares the crap out of almost everybody I know, many of whom are republican and are now going to hold their nose when they vote for him, sit it out and, one or two of them, vote for Obama. And these people mostly live in Virginia.
No, this is all about McCain. And the decision that looked so good before the acid wore off, and you came back down to earth, and will likely end up costing him this election.
You don't know why McCain crashed and was captured
I am on the edge of my seat. Have you discovered the secret files? I can't wait. Please do tell, right her on Althouse so we can all find out first.
michael said...
erniecu73 - WOW!!!! You is really a well read kinda guy.
I wish we could ALLLLLLL be like you.
All those big books!!
And you read them?
Even the ones with the little print?
11:11 PM
Yes, and funny, although I read them all in another language, I still have better English grammar than you. Sad, isn't it?
Michael said...
erniecu73 - WOW!!!! You is really a well read kinda guy.
I wish we could ALLLLLLL be like you.
All those big books!!
And you read them?
Even the ones with the little print?
Better than an intellectual deficient like you who is from the Rosie O'Donnell school of research; "Google it".
mtbomber,
stop cutting and pasting 7,000 (7 in honour of that nacho dude) words of paranoid ramblings out of John Doe's notebooks. Kevin Spacey protrayed him more convincingly.
If McCain and Palin are so universally detested, why are they up and rising in the polls?
Americans are idiots, I guess. If only you fringe leftist loons were in charge.
Maverick? No, he backed down from his #1 choice of a former democrat and close confident who he trusts and who,
So... Did you get that idea because you know McCain and he called you up and told you this or... are you just repeating the speculation of some elite media types. Please do tell, we all want to know your sources.
MORE GOOD NEWS:
Palin adviser warned that firing raised 'grave' concern ANCHORAGE, Alaska (CNN)
A former ethics adviser to Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin warned in July that firing her public safety commissioner would become a "grave concern" for her administration.
Gov. Sarah Palin is fighting allegations she improperly tried to force the firing of her then brother-in-law.
Gov. Sarah Palin is fighting allegations she improperly tried to force the firing of her then brother-in-law.
Wevley Shea, a former U.S. attorney and fellow Republican, urged Palin to apologize to former Commissioner Walt Monegan and fire anyone on her staff who discussed her former brother-in-law, state Trooper Mike Wooten, with the commissioner.
"Your 'political advisers' have given you poor counsel; the situation is now grave," Shea wrote in a July 24 letter to the governor. "I recommend the following action 'now' to restore your credibility and Alaska's bright future with you."
Palin, now the Republican nominee for vice president, is battling allegations that she and her advisers pressured Monegan to fire Wooten. Palin has said she fired Monegan over budget issues and denies any wrongdoing, calling Wooten a "rogue trooper" who threatened her family during his divorce from the governor's sister.
Shea, who says he's an admirer of Palin's, said Thursday that the governor's aides are trying to stall an investigation into Monegan's dismissal by the state Legislature.
"The problem, in my opinion, is that there has been out-and-out cover-up and misleading statements by staffers in the governor's office," he said. "And the parallel that I tried to draw is, you know, the problem with the firing or terminating of the U.S. attorneys."
The governor has not publicly answered questions since Republican presidential nominee John McCain picked her as his running mate August 29, and her representatives did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment Thursday.
Shea had acted as an informal ethics adviser to Palin, but he told CNN that his advice on the Monegan firing was unsolicited.
"If they would have done what I said, I think it would have been over," he said.
This is the one! This is the scandal that will sink McCain Palin. You found the holy grail at last.
forced him to run one of the dirtiest, most dishonest and ultimately stupidest Presidential campaigns ever -- the worst I have seen in my 50 years on the planet -- and, ironically, the same sleazy campaign that Bush ran against him in 2000, brought to you by the same guyd.
Wow every year you guys say the same thing when your candidate starts sucking wind. It's so old and tired. Blah Blah Blah.
Remember it wasn't Republicans who accuse Michele Obama of not being the mother of her own child, that smear, probably the worst in Presidential history, goes to you guys.
With Bashir as anchor I'm expecting a tv gotcha.
Goggle Bashir, watch his YouTube and you will see what I mean.
erniecu73 - What does reading in another language have to do with your English grammar?
That doesn't even make sense.
Maverick? No, he backed down from his #1 choice of a former democrat
"Maverick" is not a synonym for "idiotic", the latter being what a Lieberman pick would have been.
Indeed, we might have seen the first occasion in decades where a major party ignored the Presidential nominee's pick and nominated someone on their own. :)
It's just airing here, and WOW is it heavily edited. It should be a standard feature of contracts that no one goes on camera without a camcorder running and the right to put the original on youtube when the network distorts it.
SIMON:
That's exactly what James Dobson did during an ABC News interview with him around a dozen years ago. Peter Jennings put on the interview, which misconstrued 3 things that Dobson had actually said. The newscast was viewed by about 11 million people, and caused a minor uproar on the left about Dobson's (mis-edited)views.
But Dobson quickly turned the tables by playing the un-edited version on his radio program, which he had insisted be taped by his people as well. And dobson's program was then - as it still is today - the most broadcast non-government sponsored program on radio in the world.
Needless to sat, the left shut up pretty d**m quick after they were caught with their pants down.
Michael said...
erniecu73 - What does reading in another language have to do with your English grammar?
That doesn't even make sense.
Neither do you. You are just ground noise, static, and gasbaggry. Now go play with your toys and leave the adults to their business.
AH, michael, you are not so clever after all. It has to do with the fact that I am not a native speaker, but...etc, etc. You should get the point now, I hope, since it is just as silly as the ones you have been trying to make all night.
This is the one decision he makes this fall, the one measure of how he will be as a President, and while you may all love her to death, she scares the crap out of almost everybody I know,
This reminds me of the famous elite woman in Manhatten after finding out that Nixon carried 49 states... she said something like "It's impossible, I don't know anyone who voted for Nixon."
Earth to Mtbomber. America is a big place with lots of people, most of whom are not at all like you (thankfully).
The truth is Palin is probably the greatest vice-presidential pick in American political history. The Palin pick has totally changed the election mostly because she has energized the Republican base which has been so demoralized in recent years.
Conservatives aren't energized because she is a woman or a governor or a new face, they are energized because she is those things and also right on the issues. She is the change we have been waiting for.
Palin has done to the Republican party what Joan d'arc did for the French, she has motivated us to fight for victory (okay mabye comparing her to Joan d'arc is a bit much, but its 11:30.)
ernie -- what's your native tongue.
huh huh, tongue.
I speak 2 other languages and I know how difficult it is to sound even decent in them, so well done.
while you may all love her to death, she scares the crap out of almost everybody I know
If I were an Obama supporter she'd scare the crap out of me, too. Two weeks ago McCain was all but guaranteed to lose; now, thanks to his VP pick, he's actually got a shot.
Joan Darc?
Is sloan a racist or a sexist?
Stephen, it is Spanish in its Cuban variation.
Haha! You said "tongue"! I am sure our friend michael is blushing at that.
Miguel es loco.
erniecu73 - Reading in one language has absolutely nothing to do with how good or bad your grammar would be in another language.
he backed down.......... because of a right wing veto communicated to him by Rove himself
That's the best line all night. Rove is still in control(cue Darth Vader music)and building a Death Star as we speak.
Gut gute Nachtwingnuts. Seien Sie sicher, auf Ihrer linken Seite zu schlafen.
That Karl Rove. So powerful. So smart. So cunning. He is able to work completely behind the scenes and get things done. He bends leaders to his will. He thinks up just the right thing to say.
Really, shouldn't this guy be president?
Sieg heil.
michael, how would you know?
And I see you didn't get it. And you didn't get it because you didn't read my post at 11:28 and Stephen's at 11:30. Take your Ritalin.
There are aproximately twelve million law abiding citizens who own guns in this country. They are Democrats, Republicans, and everything in between. About three fourths of them vote for pro gun candidates. Sarah Palin gave McCain aproximattley eight million votes, as she is a life time member ofthe NRA.
What was that about the Bush doctrine again?
ernie -- thats cool. I was in East Berlin with some Cuban dudes for a spell in the summer of 89 (don't ask) and got so I could pass.
Back in the Miami airport, I was waiting for a lost bag and directing arriving folks from South America.
OT, sorry.
Back TT,
Mike,
You dope. Having good grammar in a foreign language demonstrates diligence, determination, and intelligence. Granted, Spanish doesn't make for the toughest transition (Russian is MUCH more difficult) but it's still an outstanding achievement.
Sloanasaurus -- She's probably the greatest VP pick in history because she has energized the GOP (which has been in the dumps lately while their fearless leader -- the last guy who we all had to vote for to save the world from scary liberals -- ran the country into the ditch)? That has always been the measure of a good choice to Republocans -- whether its good for Republicans politically. Nothing else matters.
But what was even funnier was when McCain said tonight that she is probably "the most knowledgeable person in the United States about energy." The comination of hubris and ignorance in that statement is mind-boggling -- almost as mind boggling as the obvious disdain McCain has for the publicm, that he thinks they will swallow the crap they are serving up.
So eat it up people, enjoy the high while it lasts. For my part, seeing the McCain campaign go down in flames, and the people who take pleasure in belittling people who are good people because they disagree with you, is going to be especially pleasurable.
PS - Republicans sneer at the rest of the world, while pounding their chest about how the USA is the greatest nation in the World. Based on the comments I have seen here, it's only a matter of time before we are just another second rate power. Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said -- talk softly and carry a big stick. You would do well to listen to that advice.
Sloan says: "The truth is Palin is probably the greatest vice-presidential pick in American political history."
Heavy, Dude.
For my part, seeing the McCain campaign go down in flames, and the people who take pleasure in belittling people who are good people because they disagree with you, is going to be especially pleasurable.
Clearly, your intentions are nothing but noble and honorable.
Happy September 11!
Yes, michael, we can sleep on whatever side of our bodies we wish. Can't you?
How does eMpTy know my voice and stick size?
If I were an Obama supporter she'd scare the crap out of me, too. Two weeks ago McCain was all but guaranteed to lose; now, thanks to his VP pick, he's actually got a shot.
Yes he does. It is still a small one, though given the climate. We'll see if Obama regains his composure in the next few days. His performance at Ground Zero today seemed a bit off for a professional politician.
Seven Machos: I do find it fascinating that some many fringe leftists have being liked by Europeans so high on their list of good qualities.
They remind me of the bimbos in college who craved approval from the soccer team: "Hey Marci, if you let us have our way with you you'll be POPULAR!". Amazingly, some people will do anything.
Michael said...
erniecu73 - Reading in one language has absolutely nothing to do with how good or bad your grammar would be in another language.
Now you are a linguist. My, my, you have so much talent. A foreign policy expert, a military expert on shot down planes during wartime, and an expert in medico-legal and forensic issues regarding so called "rape kits".
I will bet your parents sold the Encyclopedias. Their effing son knew everything.
Does anyone think Mr. Um and the Bloviator are going to help themselves in the debates? Not going to be.
Stephen - First of ll, get your nose out of erniecu73's ass.
Second, "Having good grammar in a foreign language demonstrates diligence, determination, and intelligence."
I agree, but it has nothing to do with how good or bad your grammar would be in another language.
Do you have a learning disability or are you just plain dense.
McCain is going to win, people.
Shoulda picked Clinton.
Stephen, indeed, Russian is a very tough one. Not really because of vocabulary, but its ridiculous declinations. I suffered three years of it in HS in Cuba.
In '89 I was in HS, but had some friends in East Berlin. They were people who had graduated two years before and had gotten a scholarship there. They were really smart, they stayed.
I didn't take "his world view" to be a question (although I can definitely see how it would be interpreted that way based on her rise in pitch on "view"). I think it was the beginning of her answer to "Well, cupcake, what do you think the Bush Doctrine is?" She was nodding when she said it, and was starting to add to it, when Gibson went on to define it for her.
I think there are three possibilities:
1. She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was and was stalling.
2. She has an idea of the Bush Doctrine, but knows it's ambiguous enough that she wanted clarification before agreeing or disagreeing with it.
3. She saw Gibson claim Obama agreed with the Bush Doctrine in the Dem. debate and wasn't going to take the same bait. See
http://mediamatters.org/items/200801080001
I don't think based on the way Charlie Gibson handled this exchange which answer is correct.
Anyway, the left has combed through the interview, and this is the worst they could come up with? Good night for Palin then.
Ernie, un cubiche in the house?! Awesome!
I'm tired of doing the Spanish translations on Althouse. ;)
Seven, indeed.
Stephen, I'm expecting two very interesting debates, and massive hysteria on the left the day after.
Peter V. Bella - I never said or intimated I was a linguist, I merely stated a fact.
You can be fluent in one language but it has little if anything to do with being grammatically correct or fluent in another.
What would make you think that?
MTbomber: So eat it up people, enjoy the high while it lasts. For my part, seeing the McCain campaign go down in flames, and the people who take pleasure in belittling people who are good people because they disagree with you, is going to be especially pleasurable.
More projection. You need to get counseling. You have some need to hate those who believe different from you, to conjure up the most distorted myths to justify your hatred. You've gone tribal - you don't care about Country, you just want your "team" to win.
Did your D&D group break up?
Remember what Teddy Roosevelt said -- talk softly and carry a big stick. You would do well to listen to that advice.
Your other problem is that you're a sophmore...
McCain is going to win, people.
Shoulda picked Clinton.
Absolutely. I was one of those republicans who voted for Obama in the primaries just to help ensure she didn't get the nomination. If Hillary were the nominee, the selection of Palin as VP would not be much of an issue. The left would be ignoring her.
Victoria*,
I will be more than happy to assist! Yup, cubiche, born and raised in the island. I escaped that nightmare a while ago. Now watch the serial idiots accuse of being a bitter land owner, a mobster, drug dealer, etc...
Saludos,
*I know your name from reading the comments here.
Noticed that none of Palin's critics took up my request to explain the Bush doctrine in their own words.
I'll take that to mean that, like Gibson, they don't know the material.
Now watch the serial idiots accuse of being a bitter land owner, a mobster, drug dealer, etc...
Ernie, ellos son mongos y comemierdas. Forget them. ;)
It's really nice to have someone who knows the reality of Cuba. I went in 2000, and the visit still haunts me (it was as a favour to my ex-boyfriend, whose granddad was dying).
Marcia, here's my vote:
"She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was and was stalling."
And anybody who thinks different is dreaming.
But, hey...why on Earth would a new V.P. want to know anything about the foreign policy doctrines of a previous administration? I mean, sure, your allies and most everybody in government would be familiar with the intricacies and dynamics that could effect future negotiations and actions, but you could tell everybody to forget about it, and do a start over.
Yeah...that's the ticket.
"She didnt know waht the Bush doctrine meant"
Palin's question, could you be more specific was dead on!
The Bush Doctrine is a phrase used to describe various related foreign policy principles of United States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_Doctrine
Victoria, yes, it never leaves you. I'm glad you've seen it, although it was not a good experience.
I've been hoping and praying they will recover swiftly from the storms. We'll see.
And, yes, these people are mongos y comemierdas. At the end, it rhymes with comunista...same difference. ;)
Goodnight for now, good folks. I, as opposed to michael and cie., am gainfully employed, and must wake up early to win my daily bread.
Ciao!
"Do you have a learning disability or are you just plain dense."
Do I have to pick one or the other?
A little civil chatter threatens you, Michael? Go fuck yourself. How's that?
Your malice and stupidity are astounding. The point is that if someone is able to learn a new language's grammar well enough to pass for fluent, that is an achievement. Because you are an imbecile, you don't understand that so stop repeating the same moronic refrain.
ernie - These guys claimed to be very pro-Castro, so I don't know. They didn't believe me when I told them you could spit on the flag here. The 1-on-5 debates were great.
I said the GDR commandant "mame la pinga" one morning and one of the Cubans giggled about it for 3 days.
Really nice to have met you, Ernie! No te pierdas por estas partes!
Hugs,
Victoria (Honourary Cubiche -- see Babalublog) ;)
mame la pinga
GASP!
Vic,
In my defense, I was referring to an East German party apparatchik.
It played well with the Cubans...
Micheal: I mean, sure, your allies and most everybody in government would be familiar with the intricacies and dynamics that could effect future negotiations and actions, but you could tell everybody to forget about it, and do a start over.
You mean like Obama ditching Carter's policy of not negotiating with terrorists?
Notice you still haven't explained what you think the Bush doctrine is. Funny that. For all your complaining about Palin, you don't even know the subject matter.
And you've failed to provide any evidence to support your feeble asssertion re Palin being ignorant of the Bush doctrine.
Maybe you can manufacture some more fake quotes by Palin? You really showed your true colors there.
Again - the BEST way to know Palin did good in the interviews? :
Browsed some 2000 comments on the left wing blogs and ABC News open thread - Not ONE left leaner or Democrat is breathing a sigh of relief.
No, the best way is to listen to her answers. I haven't watch the interview yet, but it is clear that she doesn't know the Bush doctrine. Hell, I couldn't remember either - preemption - but then I'm not running for VP.
That said. If that miss is the only gaffe tonight, then maybe she's not so bad. After all, don't those critics of the Bush administration disagree with that policy. What better way to make it go away than to have someone in office who doesn't know of the official policy, and therefore, can't enforce it? :-)
but it is clear that she doesn't know the Bush doctrine. Hell, I couldn't remember either - preemption - but then I'm not running for VP.
Pre-emption is not the Bush Doctrine. Preemption as a theory has been around for thousands of years. Generally, "doctrines" are something that is novel.
@michael: revenant called your bluff at 10:38PM. Are you going to backtrack on that one or just ignore it?
I hope you know that this will go down on your permanent record.
Gibson should ave asked Palin about the Obama Doctrine...
1. Surrender to defeat on the verge of victory
2. Cut funds for the troops.
3. Chat with leaders of terrorist nations.
4. Find moral equivilency between bad guys around the world to the United States.
5. Require the global test (wait that was Kerrys)
Wow, Obama really is not qualified to have a doctrine or be president.
A good case can be made, however, that Obama might be qualified to be vice president. But that is also doubtful.
Michael is Luckyoldson in a new persona. Talking to him is futile. Do so at the risk of wasting your time. There are better things in life to do with your time. Just sayn'
Saw the clip. Gibson did what he was paid to do. He asked difficult questions in a persistent tone. He will pay dearly thoough for getting that quote wrong. The camera angle and lighting seemed unflattering. I have enough distrust of the press to wonder if that was intentional....Sarah had the right answers but the wrong presence. She was insufficiently magesterial. Some of the questions deserved an answer of serene ambiguity as there is, in fact, no right answer to a hypothetical question... As many have noted, she seemed like a student in an oral exam. This interview did not play to her strengths. But she survived it, and she is not the sort of person who becomes clumsier with practice.
"She didn't know what the Bush Doctrine was and was stalling."
I didn't know what the damn "Bush Doctrine" was. Then the reporter said it was that a nation has the right to defend itself without asking permission. Only morons would call that a doctrine, that's called common sense.
So, I now know what the "Bush Common Sense" is.
Pre-emption is not the Bush Doctrine. Preemption as a theory has been around for thousands of years. Generally, "doctrines" are something that is novel.
Exactly, Israel has to pre-empt given their geografy. That did not come about with 9/11 or Bush 43.
He will pay dearly thoough for getting that quote wrong.
I love seeing liberal propaganda blowback on the media. Thats what you get for using AP as a source.
The camera angle and lighting seemed unflattering. I have enough distrust of the press to wonder if that was intentional...
Having worked a few campaings, I can tell you that all camera angles are intentional. It was deliberately unflattering.
Someone wake me when our Lefties here figure out what the Bush doctrine is.
that a nation has the right to defend itself without asking permission. Only morons would call that a doctrine...
LOL
Fen: "Someone wake me when our Lefties here figure out what the Bush doctrine is."
You will be sleeping for a thousand years or more...
I think the simple facts of Sarah's life are much more eloquent than any speech or interview. Her son is going to Iraq and she has to parse the meaning of her prayers for him....In interviews, Hillary is much more poised and authoritive. But look at the facts of Hillary's life. I am glad that her family made 100 million dollars while pursuing world peace and egalitarianism. There's good money in those fields, much better than in commercial fishing.
@michael: revenant called your bluff at 10:38PM. Are you going to backtrack on that one or just ignore it?
He'll either ignore it or change the subject. But I wasn't replying for his benefit; I was replying for the benefit of people who might not understand how NATO works. :)
Michael's either Luckyoldson or an idiot (but I repeat myself). There's little point in trying to explain anything to *him*.
I think the simple facts of Sarah's life are much more eloquent than any speech or interview.
Gibson's universe excludes all of the (congressional advise and consent) presidential appointments that really have to know more than the candidates and excludes all the career people in the federal government whose job include advising those people that in tuen advise the president.
If you didn't know better you think Sarah was interviewing for a job were she needed to know everything because she would not have anybody to rely on for advice.
A total tv show, made up misconception.
I've only seen one person on this loooooong thread mention what may quickly become "ABCgate". Michelle Malkin touches upon it here. Apparently what was shown on the West Coast was different from what Easterners saw.
It's one thing to abridge a book or video but to alter it so that the meaning is changed is a No Go.
Palin's team must have filmed the whole thing so if this can be exposed, just further proof of the MSM bias against her.
Palin's team must have filmed the whole thing.
I hope so, I really do.
Palin is the female Chauncey Gardener, sort of. Chance might have
made a good President.
Candidate Obama goes on an unprecedented world tour. Obama gives a speech in Germany rivaling the number of Olympic coverage eyeballs.
Meanwhile Charles Gibson has the temerity to ask Sarah Palin how much much hubris it took to accept an invitation to serve as a vice president?
Facing this, It must take a lot to keep ones hope from fading. We still have two more months of unrelenting fire.
rsb,
That is supremely idiotic. I suppose citing Chance makes you feel educated, but if there's a Chance in this election, it's Obama. "Hope and change... Yes we can!" Nonsense from a Chicago hack who can read someone else's words off a teleprompter but otherwise ums and ahs like a post-lobotomy Valley girl.
Let me try your style: --on 2nd thought, your style sucks.
If you are going to make sniveling comments, at least try to align them with something resembling reality.
Palin actually has accomplishments that she can point to. Obama has to act like glomming on to unanimous consent votes is somehow akin to LBJ in 64 or the founders risking life and limb to sign the DOI.
You are a sniveling jackass, rsb.
And dickbreath (that's the plain English translation for rsb and his/her ilk), in case you don't know, Chance is not the same thing as chance.
Sniveling jackass.
Palin is the female Chauncey Gardener.
Again, In order to demean Palin she has to be dehumanized.
A fake (movie), a pig, a religious nut. The kind of stuff we usually reserve for our enemies of war.
Juicy stuff breaking from The National Enquirer.
Wow!
So that's why her son is joining the military? Or is this just tabloid lies? Can anyone confirm this? He was a hardcore oxycontin fiend, cokehead, and also a vandal?
And is it true Sarah kicked her daughter out of the house when she first learned of the pregnancy? It says she was a big pothead and drinker, too. This is just a tabloid, but interesting, no?
The National Enquirer also claims that Levi had to be dragged to Minnesota for the convention and is none too happy about the shotgun marriage. Can anyone confirm this?
The Enquirer says they will have shocking new details about the rumors Sarah had an affair? Can anyone confirm this as well? I thought she was in the clear on that.
Just tabloid stuff, but juicy juicy juicy!
You guys don't have to worry. She was properly vetted by McCain's staff, and in any case, the American people won't be interested in such tabloid trash stories.
We don't want anyone distracted from the very serious election, where we'll tune into interviews with Sarah Palin to find out how her crash course on world affairs is going. I thought she memorized some foreign names real well for last night, but that meanie from ABC stumped her with the Bush Doctrine question. But it's okay, she made sure we know there are terrorists hellbent to kill us.
No, we can't let the wolves who flew up to Alaska to dig for dirt distract us. Instead we need to manaufacture outrage over Obama saying "lipstick on a pig".
I'm not a partisan though. I'm just a loafing oaf. I don't think I can resist checking out the Enquirer!
Hey, I drank and smoked weed in high school, too. The kids who did oxycontin...hey it happens. Lots of people dabble in hard drugs. But did she really kick her daughter out of the house in her moment of crisis?! Yikes.
Forced weddings are fake weddings.
If it's a shotgun wedding, shame on Sarah Palin.
Marriage is about love.
Wait..I could be wrong about that, but MY idea of marriage is anyway.
It's a shame there are so many loafing oafs running around who pick up the Enquirer. Sorry, I should be ashamed of myself.
But...was he really a oxycontin fiend? Interesting! As VP I hope she takes a special interest in helping other parents deal with their oxycontin fiend children. That could be a nice little side project for her while she's getting ready to go to war with Russia.
LoafingOaf,
You are a troll and a poxy bag of shit.
Fuck off.
Seriously. You are a hateful ignoramus.
Even those turds like you are serving the ends of getting McCain and Palin elected, your means are unacceptable.
Look in a mirror and ask yourself where the hate comes from.
Sniveling jackass.
Typical leftist hate:
"Was [anyone who disagrees] really [unfounded malicious allegation]? Interesting!"
No, it's not. It means you are a vicious, hateful asshole. And passive aggressive as well.
I'm still waiting to meet an Obama activist who isn't using peace-hope-change-compassion as a thin veneer for hate, envy, and projection.
Sorry for the tone, civilized folks, but I can't work up the outrage and bile necessary.
Why did Gibson conduct this interview looking like he was about to paddle Sarah Palin's ass? Peering down his nose and over his glasses at her....looking old and disgusted....
The strict headmaster remprimanding the wayward young girl......
ACK. What an image.
Frankly, she scares me.
butch up nancyboy
mcg said: Well, isn't this convenient. Looks like ABC News edited one of Charlie's more unflattering moments out of the interview.
I haven't been free to follow all this. Can someone tell me what this is about? Thanks.
Here's a thought for a fun experiment: let's time how long it takes for the latest unsubstantiated and ridiculous rumor from the time it is posted on by an "anonymous diarist" at dKos (cough Obama campaign cough plausible deniability cough) to the time that Alpha or LoafingOaf runs here with the obligatory concern troll posting...
Some very important questions:
- What is the going rate for this kind of AstroTurfing work and are they still hiring through Election Day?
- Would I need to go to Chicago, DC or can I do this work from my nearest Starbucks?
- Is this a temporary, seasonal type of job for you, or are you a long-term employee of David Axelrod's other company - you know, the one that brags about specializing in this sort of AstroTurfing?
- Do you get a shift differential for working late nights?
- How many other blogs are you concern trolling besides Althouse or is just keeping up the breathless reporting on this one blog a full-time gig?
- Do you consider this a stepping stone to a full-time community organizing gig?
- Does the Obama campaign supply the "Gee...I wonder if it's true? Wouldn't it be a scandal if it was?" comment boilerplate or is this an innovation you brought to the job? If so, do you get a piece of the action whenever yet another obvious seminar caller uses it?
- Do you get paid based on volume of comments posted or on a sliding scale based on the outrageousness of the latest lie that will be debunked within the next 24 hours?
...Inquiring minds want to know...
Michael said Gut gute Nachtwingnuts. Seien Sie sicher, auf Ihrer linken Seite zu schlafen.
Yep, I was right. Classic Luckyoldson.
It's a shame there are so many loafing oafs running around who pick up the Enquirer.
Yawn.
for one cant wait until Sarah Palin and Joe Biden discuss energy policy. the hairless wonder is going to have his shorts handed to him.
Some people say the dumbest things. Here's what McCain said about Palin recently:
She knows more about energy than probably anyone else in the United States of America.
Bullshit!
What establishes Palin's alleged expertise on energy issues? All I've heard so far is a bunch of republicans repeating that talk point ad nauseum. No facts, just chatter.
I haven't been free to follow all this. Can someone tell me what this is about? Thanks.
Gibson chopped off the first half of a sentence Palin uttered in church a while back so that it looked like she was stating our troops were on a mission from God. In the full sentence she's asking people to pray that the troops are doing God's will. The worst part was that when Palin questioned his wording, he smugly claimed he was quoting her exactly.
Either they realized they'd screwed up or the McCain people threatened to expose them, because in later broadcasts they disappeared Gibson's claim that the quote was exact.
What establishes Palin's alleged expertise on energy issues?
The two main things would presumably be (a) she used to run Alaska's oil regulation/production agency and (b) she's negotiated and supervised energy issues as governor, e.g. the natural gas pipeline.
Either they realized they'd screwed up or the McCain people threatened to expose them, because in later broadcasts they disappeared Gibson's claim that the quote was exact.
The amazing thing in this day and age of Google why Gibson would think for a nanosecond that he wouldn't be called on it.
But as you said before, any GOP candidate simply has to expect this kind of treatment and simply buck up and deal with it.
garage mahal said Darfur and Burma are a bit different as their own government are responsible for the brutality against it's own citizens creating the hellish humanitarian situation.
Quite right garage. If the Darfurians and Buhhdists are uppity enough to poke their governments in the eye, they better be prepared for the consequences.
That is so much different than Georgia exercising control over its own territory.
Sorry for the lame reply
Unfortunately those seem to be par for the course with you lately.
krylovite -
To add to what revenant said..
...and the fact that she's already been interviewed on CNBC about these issues and even Democratic partisans who have seen the interview admit that this is an area where she is an expert...
Maybe if you had a few moments in between wiping the drool off your chin and the spittle off your monitor you might want to check YouTube so you could see it for yourself before you start commenting on something about which are you are obviously totally ignorant.
If you think she's such a lightweight that throwing Palin into the briar patch of energy issues in order to compare her mastery of the subject with Obama's ignorance is such a good idea, please do it...please...
How about a head-to-head debate with energy independence as its only subject?
Before you answer, I'd be interested in knowing just how badly do you want Democrats to be slaughtered in the voting booth? It must be an awful lot for you to be pushing this particular meme. Are you secretly working for the McCain/Palin campaign?
because in later broadcasts they disappeared Gibson's claim that the quote was exact.
Thank's, Rev.
You know, while we have no way of knowing if the initial misquote was an error or dishonest, the scrubbing of Gibson's comment without a correction was blantantly dishonest.
Hoosier said: The amazing thing in this day and age of Google why Gibson would think for a nanosecond that he wouldn't be called on it.
They may fully expect to be called on it, but the damage was already inflicted, so they may not care. The people who saw the initial interview and don't read blogs aren't privy to the follow up. Maybe Palin should bring it back up in the subsequent interview (were those taped all at one time?)
The two main things would presumably be (a) she used to run Alaska's oil regulation/production agency and (b) she's negotiated and supervised energy issues as governor, e.g. the natural gas pipeline.
Yeah, she has connections to the oil industry. Every time the GOP runs a candidate with ties to the oil industry, he/she is touted as an expert on energy issues. It's a bit like claiming that a homeless person who sleeps in a dumpster is an expert on recycling issues.
Does Palin have any expertise on the subject of nuclear energy? Hydroelectric power? Solar power? Geothermal energy? Coal? If not, her expertise in the field of energy is one-dimensional.
Let's start with nuclear energy. Convince me that Palin has a good understanding of nuclear energy issues and/or has experience with nuclear energy programs.
Maybe if you had a few moments in between wiping the drool off your chin
Hey Jim, it's not personal, dude. Calm down and ask for a change - your wet diaper is making you cranky! :o)
Energy expertise involves more than connections to the oil industry, okay? Palin is an energy expert in the same way that Cheney is an energy expert. Connections to the oil industry don't make Palin an energy expert anymore than tap dancing in an airport restroom stall makes Larry Craig an expert on transportation.
Since I'm so obviously totally ignorant about Palin's energy expertise, how about posting a summary of Palin's background in geothermal energy and her experience in developing geothermal energy supplies in Alaska? Since you're so well-informed on the subject you should be able to bang out a couple of paragraphs explaining this in no time at all.
The amazing thing in this day and age of Google why Gibson would think for a nanosecond that he wouldn't be called on it.
He probably quoted it in good faith, relying on the AP's reporting of it--which was the source of the dowdification.
The press has to learn what the rest of us learned along time ago: They're not reliable.
Why would any thinking person (John McCain) say that Sarah Palin knows more about energy than anyone in the country?
Does he really feel Palin is more knowledgeable than those who have been in the energy business for most of their entire lives?
More knowledgeable than the elected officials in energy producing states like Texas, Louisiana, California or Colorado?
Are we to believe Sarah Palin, after less than two years as Governor in Alaska, knows more about energy in America, than everybody associated with those states or the industry as a whole?
It's ridiculous.
Do we now have the start of "ABCgate"?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/09122008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/abcs_bungles_128726.htm?&page=0
It's interesting that so many here are so upset with Charlie Gibson, yet do appear to care that Sarah Palin didn't even know what the Bush Doctrine is.
I'd love to hear what people here would have said, had the question been posed to Obama or Biden, and they had responded the way Palin did.
All hell would have broken loose, with Simon, Fen, Sloan and others screaming to high heaven that they were unqualified to lead, and that they should know the policies of the President who is in office.
And you know it, too.
Why have the McCain people forced the Vice Presidential debate to decrease the amount of time each candidate will have to respond in the upcoming V.P debate?
Certainly anyone who is seriously being considered for such a huge office in such a critical time for our country (and world) must be able to respond to the highest of urgent matters, and must exhibit the highest of intelligence and judgement. Not being able to play by traditional debate rules is simply NOT acceptable.
I have seen McCain, Obama, and Biden being interviewed on several networks numerous times. As all presidential candidates have always done,(even Dan Quale..) they put themselves in the "line of fire". Whether you agree with Obama or McCain's camps you at least have had several opportunities to listen to the candidates( 3 of them) in a non scripted, tele prompter situation. Giving Palin special rules (i.e reducing the amount of time to respond to questions during the debate is wrong and very UN-AMERICAN!
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