Althouse: "The main consideration was the national interest. The child on the screen should be flawless...."

१२ ऑगस्ट, २००८

"The main consideration was the national interest. The child on the screen should be flawless...."

"... in image, in her internal feelings, and in her expression. In the matter of her voice, Yang Peiyi was flawless, in the unanimous opinion of all the members of the team."

The 7-year-old won the "grueling competition " to sing "Hymn to the Motherland," but a member of the Chinese politburo didn't like her teeth: "So we made the choice. I think it is fair to both Lin Miaoke and Yang Peiyi - after all, we have a perfect voice, a perfect image and a perfect show, in our team's view, all together."

३९ टिप्पण्या:

vbspurs म्हणाले...: Good. The Chinese have a sense of occasion and the importance of presentation, which Americans used to have before the 1960s.

That's why Jackie Robinson was chosen over Josh Gibson, the Mercury 7 astronauts were the best of the best, and Audrey Hepburn had Marni Nixon singing for her.

Singin' In the Rain's whole premise is based on what the Chinese did. Bravo.

Cheers,
Victoria; १२/८/०८, २:१० PM
Original Mike म्हणाले...: Officials have already admitted that the pictures of giant firework footprints which marched across Beijing towards the stadium on Friday night were prerecorded, digitally enhanced and inserted into footage beamed across the world.

Yah, so? Who was complaining about this? (Potential answer: someone dopey enough to have assumed that was real-time); १२/८/०८, २:२१ PM
ricpic म्हणाले...: Whazamatta, slan eye buck tooth Chinee na goo enuf?; १२/८/०८, २:२३ PM
Zachary Sire म्हणाले...: Whaaaa?

The Olympics are a facade? What in the Potemkin Village is going on here?!

First the performance enhancing drugs, then the fake fireworks, and now lip syncing?

The Chinese...they're just like us!; १२/८/०८, २:३० PM
Beth म्हणाले...: VB -- you win! Marni Nixon was my first thought.; १२/८/०८, २:३१ PM
Ron म्हणाले...: But Vic, Marni Nixon was used to dub Hepburn by the studio, over her objections! (Some of Audrey's original singing is used in the DVD, I think) Harrison was live miked! No dubbing for Rex, oh, no...; १२/८/०८, २:३१ PM
Ann Althouse म्हणाले...: Movie musicals are better when the singing is live, such as the death scene in "Evita" and Rex Harrison in "My Fair Lady." But these are movies and are not presented as live. We know what we're getting. If you present it as live, on the other hand, it should be live, and it's better live. It's thrilling.; १२/८/०८, २:३६ PM
Beta Conservative म्हणाले...: Is Milli Vanilli available for the closing ceremonies?; १२/८/०८, २:४० PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: You know I don't get all this preoccupation with the fake footprints, the fake lipsynching-or even the drum core...

Was I the only one bothered by the patently obvious-

When was the last time at a Olympics you saw the host country's military jackbooting all over the place with the Olympic flag?

{while looking like they were wearing lip gloss..}

Why the hell is nobody writing about that?

Maybe it happens all the time and I never noticed...[I drink a lot]

Like the time the Canadians had the Royal Mounties ride in on horses with the flag and then tossed it up the flag pole.

Or-remember the time when the Norwegians had their Navy float it in and torpedoed it up there with a flame thrower...; १२/८/०८, २:४७ PM
Beta Conservative म्हणाले...: ही टिप्पणी लेखकाना हलविली आहे.; १२/८/०८, २:५३ PM
reader_iam म्हणाले...: VB (and Beth): Bingo! What I came in to write, too.; १२/८/०८, २:५५ PM
Beta Conservative म्हणाले...: I thought they would march in with Bazookas and Kung Pao it up there.; १२/८/०८, २:५५ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Oh look-

They stole the damn idea from the Italians-

Here is the Italian force jackbooting it in with white go go boots and lip gloss-

The Italian Troops Kicking it Old Schoool; १२/८/०८, २:५५ PM
reader_iam म्हणाले...: Now, I do think that it's a little different, in that I feel for the kid who won the "grueling" contest, after all, and also I think the teeth thing is no big deal.

But it's not like this is uncommon, or unusual, or limited to the Chinese, so it's not some shocking big deal.; १२/८/०८, २:५७ PM
reader_iam म्हणाले...: Maybe the girl's family can write a book telling their story ... using a ghostwriter, of course.; १२/८/०८, २:५८ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: I imagine that the girl who won the competition and sang the song is ecstatic despite not actually appearing. It is her voice after all, and she's only 7.; १२/८/०८, ३:०४ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: I heard her little sister is pregnant.; १२/८/०८, ३:०४ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: the one they showed; १२/८/०८, ३:०५ PM
Unknown म्हणाले...: Me Chinese, me play joke, me go pee pee in your Pepsi, the official sponsor of the Communist olympics.; १२/८/०८, ३:१९ PM
MadisonMan म्हणाले...: I long for the olden days of Communist Countries where important stories like this were routinely squashed.; १२/८/०८, ३:२७ PM
Donna B. म्हणाले...: I thought the singer was cute.; १२/८/०८, ३:४० PM
AllenS म्हणाले...: If you let Pamela Anderson sing, nobody would look at her teeth.

Reference: Ad, top right column.; १२/८/०८, ४:०३ PM
veni vidi vici म्हणाले...: Why didn't they just invite Roseanne Barr to sing the anthem? You know, for honor, dignity, decorum...; १२/८/०८, ४:२५ PM
LutherM म्हणाले...: Why do the Beijing Olympics remind me of games before I was born - BERLIN 1936?
Certainly it's the show masking the realities.
Maybe it's the authoritarian nature of the governments.
Maybe it's stories like "The real singer wasn't pretty enough".
Maybe it's because the host nation is winning a lot of medals, and, incidentally, has a LARGE professional army.

Of course, I'm not in Beijing, so what I know is filtered through media sources.
My impressions of the Berlin Olympics come from one of the greatest documentaries I've ever seen - "Olympia" by Leni Riefenstahl.

(My impressions of the Third Reich and of Red China are based on a study of recent or contemporary history)

(As for documentaries, the best was "Triumph des Willens"; although the Marcel Ophuis film "Le Chagrin et la pitié", {"The Sorrow and the Pity"}, is great, and a good deal more subtle. It also has the classic British quote by Sir Anthony Eden, "One who has not suffered the horrors of an occupying power has no right to judge a nation that has."); १२/८/०८, ४:३२ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: "16" year old pre-pubescent Chinese female gymnasts, anyone? Works, I suppose, when the State has complete control of their lives from age 3. And maybe we should save a little nostalgia for the kind and benevolent Mao. He was a 60's kinda guy too, and I understand red was his favorite literary color. The trend seems to have hung around for this carefully arranged Chinese stage play being presented as the Olympics.; १२/८/०८, ४:४२ PM
Blue Moon म्हणाले...: American tax dollars are financing the Olympics - I expected better...; १२/८/०८, ४:४३ PM
Ger म्हणाले...: What... no Flashdance/Marine Jahan/Jennifer Beals mention yet???; १२/८/०८, ४:५८ PM
अनामित म्हणाले...: Ah yes, the Chicoms. They know how to put the 'total' in 'totalatarian'.; १२/८/०८, ६:५८ PM
vbspurs म्हणाले...: Sorry I stole your thunder, ladies!

Ron also mentioned an important point.

If you want to be feminist about this topic, you can mention that actors are less likely to be dubbed, than actresses. There is an insistence that voice should match the flawless face or figure they already have onscreen.

When Andie McDowell's speaking voice and accent in Greystoke was heard, the producers winced. They got Glenn Close to dub her instead of just hiring Glenn Close for the part, presumably because Tarzan wouldn't have a crush on someone who looks like Close.

(I'm being sarcastic)

Ethel Merman had a face of a lorry driver, but the most memorable voice on the American boards ever. She made it on Broadway, but couldn't cut it in Hollywood.

For me, the problem is not the Potemkim Village quality of these events. We all knew it would be just that, from the no spitting laws, to the closing down of factories JUST for the foreigners.

I mean, I just found out the spectacular Opening Ceremony fireworks were "digitally enhanced".

What next? I don't care. I expected it.

Cheers,
Victoria; १२/८/०८, ७:०६ PM
Christy म्हणाले...: NBC told us at the time of the opening ceremonies that the cityscape fireworks were FX. I remember because I was trying to figure out at which point they became real there at the arena.

I'm just sad that someone thought a happy proud 7 year old wasn't perfect enough for us. I'm spitting expletives and seeing a lot of future self esteem problems for this child.

BTW, of course she has no sister and was probably lucky her parents didn't abort her and try again for a boy baby.; १२/८/०८, ७:४६ PM
blake म्हणाले...: Doesn't (the wonderful and comedic) Jean Hagen get her comeuppance in Singin' In The Rain so that ingenue Debbie Reynolds becomes a star?

I'm thinking this analogy doesn't work that well.

I made the mistake of watching My Fair Lady in a relatively public venue, so that every five minutes someone would come in and say, "You know, that's not Audrey Hepburn singing".

You can get Hepburn's voice as an alternate track on the DVD, and I think it's quite nice. No, she's no Marnie Nixon, but I don't think she had to be.; १२/८/०८, ८:०७ PM
LutherM म्हणाले...: BLAKE - buy the Original Cast Recording of "MY FAIR LADY" - and you can hear Julie Andrews who sounds better than Marni or Audrey in the role. (When she played Holly Golightly, was that Audrey singing "Moon River"?); १२/८/०८, ८:२४ PM
Martin Gale म्हणाले...: BLAKE - buy the Original Cast Recording of "MY FAIR LADY"

Or, better yet, you can listen to the Spanish Olympic Basketball team's version . . .

Do the riracs broom in the heart of town?
Can you hear a rark in any other part of town?
Does enchantment pour out of evely door?
No! It's just on the stleet where you rive.; १२/८/०८, ८:५२ PM
Ruth Anne Adams म्हणाले...: Ah yes, the Chicoms. They know how to put the 'total' in 'totalatarian'.

But the Nazis did it first. They put the 'Aryan' in 'totalitarian.'; १२/८/०८, ८:५७ PM
Bender R म्हणाले...: And, in the national interest, the Chinese leaders should be flawless, not the walking pieces of sh*t that they are.; १३/८/०८, १२:१६ AM
blake म्हणाले...: BLAKE - buy the Original Cast Recording of "MY FAIR LADY" - and you can hear Julie Andrews who sounds better than Marni or Audrey in the role.

Oh, no doubt. She wasn't big enough to get the role, though. And Hepburn was so waiflike--she's in her early '30s in that movie.

I thought she was perfect from that standpoint. Rex Harrison not so much; not that he wasn't great, but the romantic dynamic just is weird.

(When she played Holly Golightly, was that Audrey singing "Moon River"?)

It was! It was written for her! (That's why it's so easy to sing.) But I do believe she got some real training in between BAT and MFL.; १३/८/०८, १:३९ AM
bleeper म्हणाले...: What? Commies lie? Who do they think they are, democrats?; १३/८/०८, ९:३९ AM
Tex the Pontificator म्हणाले...: When you're a 7-year old girl, it muct be tough to be told you're not pretty enough to be seen singing a song. I feel sorry for the child.; १३/८/०८, १:३२ PM
veni vidi vici म्हणाले...: Ruth Anne Adams, that was terrific.; १३/८/०८, ६:१६ PM