Probably half the provinces should go by the end of the year or so, given current projections, and there is reason to believe that all except for maybe five may be stable enough to turn over by the end of 2007. Of course, that leaves Anbar, Baghdad, and Basra, in particular.
At this rate the comparison to how long we have had to maintain a military presence in Germany seem apt.
Yes, yes, of course...this is Iraq, it's impossible that any real, good news would come out of that Bush disaster. Never mind what the Iraq prime minister says. (/sarcasm) One of these days, the gap between the progress in Iraq and the negative coverage in the MSM will be too great to sustain.
As for Germany, we should withdraw now, and leave Europe at the mercy of a nuclear Iran and an autocratic Russia. If something cannot be appreciated until it is taken away, perhaps we need to withdraw our military presence in Europe, to make them more receptive.
One of the big reasons that I see this as important is that it reinforces in the Iraqi minds that we are being honest about our intentions there. Whereever and to the extent that they can get control over their security, we will give them responsibility and walk away.
Part of what the MSM has consciously ignored is that the Iraqis and the U.S. have the same goal here, and all there know it. No wonder that when al Qaeda blows up recruiting lines, they are just as long the next day, as Iraqis stand in line to volunteer for the army and police. Why? Because they know that that is the way to get us to leave, and give them true sovereignty.
I agree with Abraham, this isn't a start-from-zero for the next province. Rather security transition is moving along in all 18 provinces. As I noted earlier, of the 18, one has had full transition, twelve are rated as partially ready for transition, and the other five as not ready. But, even in each of those five, there are significant numbers of towns and/or areas where Iraqis are in control of their security, and are, in essence, the "first responders", with coallition troops providing backup support.
Writer Michael Yon who has been in the belly of the beast and who seems to report honestly, is optimistic for Iraq but not for Afghanistan
"The Iraqi Security Forces are increasingly competent, a learning curve I witnessed first hand. A first dispatch about the ISF was titled “Please Don’t Shoot Us,” but ten months later, I was writing about raids the US Army conducted using intelligence developed by the ISF. The fact that a US Army general recently invited me back to Iraq to see the situation is indicative of Army confidence that the progress is ongoing and substantial. By now the military knows what readers sometimes chide me about: if invited to a mess, I will report the mess.
My foray into Afghanistan was less positive. In fact, when I contacted the Army Public Affairs in Afghanistan, there was no response. Iraq is not a quagmire and might be a good ally some day, but Afghanistan is a stone-aged disaster.
it is just as silly to think that we will be done in less than 3 more
That's the real nightmare, isn't it, that it might all be over on Bush's watch. The credibility of every major media outlet would instantly vaporize.
Fortunately for everyone, I don't think Bush will compromise the most important foreign policy project of the early 21st century for political gain. I think he would rather see Iraq done right, even it if it means his (possibly Democratic) successor will get the credit.
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Hmm, the DCCC ad in the previous post doesn't show any events like this in their little montage.
Weird.
"...since the country was invaded."
That is a perfectly accurate description of what happened in 2003. I don't see the problem with that.
Hutwa bi hutwa (step by step) and a'ash al Iraq (long live Iraq).
That's it for my Arabic, so here's to their future and to ours. Keep out the md mullahs and you'll be fine.
Probably half the provinces should go by the end of the year or so, given current projections, and there is reason to believe that all except for maybe five may be stable enough to turn over by the end of 2007. Of course, that leaves Anbar, Baghdad, and Basra, in particular.
At this rate the comparison to how long we have had to maintain a military presence in Germany seem apt.
Yes, yes, of course...this is Iraq, it's impossible that any real, good news would come out of that Bush disaster. Never mind what the Iraq prime minister says. (/sarcasm) One of these days, the gap between the progress in Iraq and the negative coverage in the MSM will be too great to sustain.
As for Germany, we should withdraw now, and leave Europe at the mercy of a nuclear Iran and an autocratic Russia. If something cannot be appreciated until it is taken away, perhaps we need to withdraw our military presence in Europe, to make them more receptive.
One of the big reasons that I see this as important is that it reinforces in the Iraqi minds that we are being honest about our intentions there. Whereever and to the extent that they can get control over their security, we will give them responsibility and walk away.
Part of what the MSM has consciously ignored is that the Iraqis and the U.S. have the same goal here, and all there know it. No wonder that when al Qaeda blows up recruiting lines, they are just as long the next day, as Iraqis stand in line to volunteer for the army and police. Why? Because they know that that is the way to get us to leave, and give them true sovereignty.
I agree with Abraham, this isn't a start-from-zero for the next province. Rather security transition is moving along in all 18 provinces. As I noted earlier, of the 18, one has had full transition, twelve are rated as partially ready for transition, and the other five as not ready. But, even in each of those five, there are significant numbers of towns and/or areas where Iraqis are in control of their security, and are, in essence, the "first responders", with coallition troops providing backup support.
Writer Michael Yon who has been in the belly of the beast and who seems to report honestly, is optimistic for Iraq but not for Afghanistan
"The Iraqi Security Forces are increasingly competent, a learning curve I witnessed first hand. A first dispatch about the ISF was titled “Please Don’t Shoot Us,” but ten months later, I was writing about raids the US Army conducted using intelligence developed by the ISF. The fact that a US Army general recently invited me back to Iraq to see the situation is indicative of Army confidence that the progress is ongoing and substantial. By now the military knows what readers sometimes chide me about: if invited to a mess, I will report the mess.
My foray into Afghanistan was less positive. In fact, when I contacted the Army Public Affairs in Afghanistan, there was no response. Iraq is not a quagmire and might be a good ally some day, but Afghanistan is a stone-aged disaster.
it is just as silly to think that we will be done in less than 3 more
That's the real nightmare, isn't it, that it might all be over on Bush's watch. The credibility of every major media outlet would instantly vaporize.
Fortunately for everyone, I don't think Bush will compromise the most important foreign policy project of the early 21st century for political gain. I think he would rather see Iraq done right, even it if it means his (possibly Democratic) successor will get the credit.
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