tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8945271502635680381..comments2024-03-28T06:22:12.262-05:00Comments on Althouse: "If the federal government can’t keep the President’s bodyguards from drinking and whoring on duty..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger215125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46927917513121974502012-04-24T21:13:44.052-05:002012-04-24T21:13:44.052-05:00So I find it interesting that the Lefties are defe...So I find it interesting that the Lefties are defending behavior that could result in POTUS being blown up, regardless of his party affiliation. <br /><br />---Yes, I'd like to keep the President safe and vote him out for his humanity, his family and our country's welfare. <br /><br />Losing Jack Kennedy was a tragedy, and how did the left react? They ignored the Castro loving whack job and blamed right wing hate.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17333132048552751053noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28861780116392669752012-04-24T14:07:11.604-05:002012-04-24T14:07:11.604-05:00Carniflex, what you said
When I would work out of...Carniflex, what you said<br /><br /><i>When I would work out of town for a company, I was always at my best behavior. You are a representative of the company, whether you like it or not. And your actions reflect on the company you work for. If you work for the government, it is even more important to represent well.</i><br /><br />Being at your "best behavior" implies that if you're Black, you should appear White; if short, tall; if gay, straight; if an atheist, a Roman Catholic; if a Jew, a Christian; if a woman, a man; if a Muslim, an Episcopalian.<br /><br />You need to get it into your head that a company or a country that encourages such discrimination is not only undeserving of support, but is deserving to be brought down.<br /><br />Likewise for a country that expects its single men to get married to have sex, for its drinkers to act like teetotalers.<br /><br />Think: sex is good, drinking is good. Marriage, breeding, divorce, alimony and child support are bad, as is sobriety.jimbinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684677214800358793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5180318623185290282012-04-24T06:54:31.219-05:002012-04-24T06:54:31.219-05:00leslyn said...
What is it about this thread--real...leslyn said... <br />What is it about this thread--really, what, because I don't understand it--that brings out the viciousness in people?<br /><br /><br /><br />Moral realativism<br />When all behavior is relative, any behavior becomes acceptable.<br />Professionalism is a matter of pride. The people, in this instance, tasked with protecting the president aren't professionals.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36896225931147840862012-04-24T06:50:23.596-05:002012-04-24T06:50:23.596-05:00I don't care about the behavior of the Secret ...I don't care about the behavior of the Secret Service, as long as they are doing their jobs. In that sense, I think Freeman nailed it. In another sense, (Pardon the vulgarity), I am quite jealous of the guy who is nailing Freeman.<br /><br />Allie,<br /><br />Are you the former psych nurse whose deceased husband (RIP) was a barber? Pardon the Medieval allusion. You still seem like quite the idiot.<br /><br />-CiscoFrancisco Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06352134756750456783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85077244469396730542012-04-24T05:16:14.637-05:002012-04-24T05:16:14.637-05:00I doubt their contracts say anything like that. It...<b>I doubt their contracts say anything like that. It isn't even like that for doctors and police, for that matter. There are periods when you are on call and periods when you aren't.</b><br /><br />Rev, as a rule, if they aren't paying for their own room and airfare --- then it is not a vacation and they very much are on duty the entire time they are there.<br /><br />Any job that is paying your way has an expectation of behavior that you have to abide by.<br /><br />They violated the rules, period. They were there on MY dime, whoring around. I have every right to be upset about this.<br /><br />Want to whore around and not get in trouble? Don't use MY money for the trip to do so.damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67216575475871267432012-04-24T01:06:49.895-05:002012-04-24T01:06:49.895-05:00Of course there's an element of race. Apparen...Of course there's an element of race. Apparently it's about "that black bitch supervisor" who supposedly turned traitor (boys will be boys) and turned them all in.<br /><br />And here I thought it started from one of the prosses making a complaint about her pay. Just shows how wrong a person can be.leslynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04976589297868178854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74746963820745420072012-04-24T00:34:05.084-05:002012-04-24T00:34:05.084-05:00I wonder why this has been 'all Washington is ...I wonder why this has been 'all Washington is talking about?' I wonder if there is an element of that 'conversation about race' that 'we're supposed to have.' In the paper in Dallas, it was reported that 'one of the supervisors who resigned graduated from W.T. White' - which was majority not, white that is. Maybe there's an issue of how the White House changed the presidential detail in an affirmative action way.a psychiatrist who learned from veteranshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00347313804041291393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70469216098184156682012-04-23T23:00:11.908-05:002012-04-23T23:00:11.908-05:00What is it about this thread--really, what, becaus...What is it about this thread--really, what, because I don't understand it--that brings out the viciousness in people?leslynhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04976589297868178854noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82139323287259636172012-04-23T22:43:11.130-05:002012-04-23T22:43:11.130-05:00Daniel Foster, M.D. quoted an old maxim to me in m...Daniel Foster, M.D. quoted an old maxim to me in my medical school interview, 'Justice must not only be done but be seen to be done.' One can argue it in different ways in this case, however one way it wouldn't come up is if the Secret Service had had a couple of drinks and watched soccer on TV. I read that one of the agents allowed to retire had graduated 25 years ago form W.T. White high school in Dallas, a high school more black than white. I wonder if there have been affirmative action changes in the president's detail?a psychiatrist who learned from veteranshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00347313804041291393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76300715867630981672012-04-23T21:59:04.140-05:002012-04-23T21:59:04.140-05:00Carnifex, you just don't get it.
"When ...Carnifex, you just don't get it. <br /><br />"When I would work out of town for a company, I was always at my best behavior."<br /><br />For you, best behavior would mean praying, going to church and kissing ass.<br /><br />To us atheists, humanists and rationalists, best behavior would involve eschewing religion and superstition in favor of drinking in a brothel.<br /><br />Think: Benjamin Franklinjimbinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684677214800358793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70453106292444500192012-04-23T21:22:48.187-05:002012-04-23T21:22:48.187-05:00For those talking about a honey trap, have you for...For those talking about a honey trap, have you forgotten Anna Chapman so quickly? The FBI has admitted that was why she was deported so quickly. She was getting "too close" to someone in the Zero Admin.<br /><br />For those arguing that the SS was "off duty", yes they were. So are the soldiers in their barracks on every posting in the world. I would expect the same level of sobriety from the SS Agents as these soldiers. They are off duty, but on call.<br /><br />When I would work out of town for a company, I was always at my best behavior. You are a representative of the company, whether you like it or not. And your actions reflect on the company you work for. If you work for the government, it is even more important to represent well.Carnifexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12561390087899686588noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35389091705406042142012-04-23T20:30:11.848-05:002012-04-23T20:30:11.848-05:00AllieOop,
I base my assertion on knowing human na...AllieOop,<br /><br /><i>I base my assertion on knowing human nature</i><br /><br />And <b>that</b> is the point of the post. We know a lot of things about human nature and much of the unsavory parts of it. The point is that even knowing that, many still expect government officials to not only be competent, but experts, in things that we know they cannot possibly be. <br /><br />The deep moral failings of human beings has been known about for thousands of years. These things were the basis for the Greek tragedies of Sophocles, Euripides, etc. Yet despite all this knowledge of human flaws, people still want to give up many of their liberties to other humans; humans we <b>know</b> to be deeply flawed. <br /><br />When you think of the word "politician", I bet the first few words that come to mind are not "restrained", "humble", "honest". If not, why would you grant ever more power to these people?<br /><br />Have fun "stimulating" the economy. Yes, Bush did have a lot of Keynesian ideas. All of which were wrong.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16099044900253501752012-04-23T20:08:13.689-05:002012-04-23T20:08:13.689-05:00..I base my assertion on knowing human nature and ...<i>..I base my assertion on knowing human nature and the nature of horny men away from home.</i><br /><br />The soft bigotry of low expectation.Lem the artificially intelligent https://www.blogger.com/profile/03569712564034666751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52406013452672169852012-04-23T20:02:37.938-05:002012-04-23T20:02:37.938-05:00You got me there Ken, but I will extricate myself ...You got me there Ken, but I will extricate myself by saying I base my assertion on knowing human nature and the nature of horny men away from home.<br /><br />There's a reason that prostitution is called the worlds oldest profession. Men seeking whores is as old as time, it probably happened under every President since they stared using SS agents.<br /><br />So now we have come full circle. I must depart to do some online shopping, I will do my part to stimulate the economy, Bush told us to go shopping, didn't he?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59477462926605168272012-04-23T20:01:08.846-05:002012-04-23T20:01:08.846-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41281995786704017162012-04-23T19:59:02.654-05:002012-04-23T19:59:02.654-05:00Hey Paco Wove,
I'm not dangerous, only an ina...Hey Paco Wove,<br /><br />I'm not dangerous, only an inactive gummint-trained nuclear physicist. But when I get the call, I'm there like von Stauffenberg.<br /><br />And Jay, in your world of "always on-duty," can you sleep, piss, crap, fart and masturbate?<br /><br />Just no sex with women who don't really love you? God, if watching sports or talking about it were off-limits, we'd have only female SS guards.jimbinohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09684677214800358793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88507799108819458482012-04-23T19:53:28.367-05:002012-04-23T19:53:28.367-05:00AllieOop,
You don't know for a fact that that...AllieOop,<br /><br /><i>You don't know for a fact that that "key members of the Obama administration" knew this was going on</i><br /><br />Ha! From the woman who claimed that it happened under Bush too without any evidence whatsoever. <br /><br />Key members of Obama's administration had to have known about this because it was occurring in secure spaces, i.e., where key members of Obama's administration were. Are you saying that the key members of Obama's administration are so incompetent that they cannot tell when unauthorized personnel are in secure spaces? You do know that key members of Obama's administration have to coordinate and work closely to the Secret Service and their agents, right?<br /><br />This isn't conspiracy theory at all. I can very much believe that the key members of Obama's administration didn't say anything because they knew what a political embarrassment it would turned out to be.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28687299211007041762012-04-23T19:49:39.010-05:002012-04-23T19:49:39.010-05:00They're on call 24/7 in the way a GP doctor or...<i>They're on call 24/7 in the way a GP doctor or a police officer or a firefighter is on call 24/7</i><br /><br />I doubt their contracts say anything like that. It isn't even like that for doctors and police, for that matter. There are periods when you are on call and periods when you aren't.<br /><br />I doubt "the president is thousands of miles from your current position" is one of the "on-call" periods.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8899197127029744362012-04-23T19:42:13.409-05:002012-04-23T19:42:13.409-05:00We should turn over all government responsibilitie...<i>We should turn over all government responsibilities to private corporations, which have never had a problem with employees drinking and whoring while they should be working.</i><br /><br />Google the word "competition".<br /><br />It'll help clear up your confusion.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12905739639833188432012-04-23T19:39:59.697-05:002012-04-23T19:39:59.697-05:00The dangerous thing about me
Jimbino-
Nothing ab...<i>The dangerous thing about me</i><br /><br />Jimbino-<br /><br /><i>Nothing</i> about you is dangerous.Paco Wovéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00053886112561036768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40561328791166262542012-04-23T19:37:39.412-05:002012-04-23T19:37:39.412-05:00Ken I brought it up because both you and Cedarford...Ken I brought it up because both you and Cedarford are engaging In conjecture, using conspiracy theories to make your point.<br /><br />You don't know for a fact that that "key members of the Obama administration" knew this was going on, as Cedarford doesn't really know the black SS agent blew the whistle on Whoregate, perhaps what Cedarford or even you assert will be proven as a fact as time goes on, in the meantime it's nothing more than hot air.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60192901209901720612012-04-23T19:35:07.033-05:002012-04-23T19:35:07.033-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34419520114355369572012-04-23T19:25:36.946-05:002012-04-23T19:25:36.946-05:00AlliOop,
Please remember, I am Ken, not Cedarford...AlliOop,<br /><br />Please remember, I am Ken, not Cedarford. I haven't read his comments and we haven't talked about them, so why even bring this up?<br /><br /><i>Why would the black lesbian SS agent that used to guard Michelle blow the whistle on these "hand picked by Obama's administration" ?</i><br /><br />Who knows? Did you ever think that she may actually have some morals or, you know, even takes her job seriously? Or do black lesbians think it's okay that other secret service agents break the law using prostitution? And do black lesbians think it's okay to bring hookers to security areas where the president would be within 48 hours? Do black lesbians just not care about professionalism and doing their jobs well? Maybe she thinks that taxpayers have the right to when well paid public employees break the law and break security protocol, endangering all sorts of things, including the president's life.<br /><br /><i>Was this black lesbian SS agent mad at the Obama administration?</i><br /><br />Because the first thing on a black lesbians mind is politics, not the professional level of her fellow agents, right?<br /><br />I honestly don't know what people I don't know and never have met think, but I do know that embarrassing an administration politically is only one of a thousand other easily thought of reasons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42676316970858577992012-04-23T19:21:27.723-05:002012-04-23T19:21:27.723-05:00I seem to recall president Clinton responding mil...I seem to recall president Clinton responding militarily to an attempt on the the life of Bush 41 in Kuwait.. My recollection is that Clinton was applauded on both sides..<br /><br />It seems to me we have always regarded the security of the president above politics..<br /><br />But then again.. maybe this is more of the "change" Obama promised.Lem the artificially intelligent https://www.blogger.com/profile/03569712564034666751noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-112627157247369082012-04-23T19:19:14.543-05:002012-04-23T19:19:14.543-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Lem the artificially intelligent https://www.blogger.com/profile/03569712564034666751noreply@blogger.com