tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8639774292893775043..comments2024-03-29T05:59:28.047-05:00Comments on Althouse: I can see people are unhappy with the ending of "The Game of Thrones."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger154125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67889633241529796092019-05-21T07:25:30.719-05:002019-05-21T07:25:30.719-05:00Balfegor said...
"Re: Rusty:
I dontknow whic... Balfegor said...<br />"Re: Rusty:<br /><br />I dontknow which bothers me more. That you know this shit orthat you bothered to memorize this shit.<br /><br />I am absolutely a nerd and unashamed! But I did have to google a bit (haha) "<br /><br />fair enough. I'm a nerd too. Just not a GOT nerd.<br />Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6990842829302545342019-05-20T22:32:26.725-05:002019-05-20T22:32:26.725-05:00If you say so. Others might say he couldn't fi...<i>If you say so. Others might say he couldn't find an original angle with both hands. </i><br /><br />I though too big a deal was made about R. R. R. R. Martin.<br /><br />The we got to witness two genius directors step out of their expertise and write script without original material to pull from. How hard could it be?<br /><br />Very hard, apparently. <br /><br />I've been catching a few clips from the earlier seasons and comparing it to Season 8. The difference is..er.. stark. Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68385642596261503192019-05-20T22:31:44.928-05:002019-05-20T22:31:44.928-05:00Throwing their SUPPORT, not super. Almost made it ...Throwing their SUPPORT, not super. Almost made it through a whole phone post without a typo...Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00623031374944444521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19470378125965511692019-05-20T22:29:49.965-05:002019-05-20T22:29:49.965-05:00I just blogged my opinion that this episode reveal...I just <a href="http://thelipstickrepublican.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">blogged</a> my opinion that this episode revealed GoT to be a conservative manifesto. Did anybody else get this out of it? The emotion-ruled SJW gets lost in the virtue of her intentions, grossly misuses her power, and is brought low by a guy who basically upholds the status quo (or tries to) for most of the series arc. And then they reestablish almost exactly the same kind of government they had before (a bunch of lords sitting under a canopy and choosing a ruler is different from a bunch of lords throwing their super behind a ruler in body count but not essentials). Conservative.Jamiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00623031374944444521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79798299804078472662019-05-20T21:33:11.308-05:002019-05-20T21:33:11.308-05:00My biggest disappointment was Jon Snow's murde...My biggest disappointment was Jon Snow's murder of Dany. Nephew kills his Aunt without familial qualms because the patricidal dwarf tells him to do so. Jon Snow became a complete tool at the end. And is sent away (runs away) to (re)join the circus.<br /><br />I suspect the writers thought themselves clever to find a way to end the series north of the wall were it began. Me. I thought it cliche.CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14260345915735881022019-05-20T21:16:55.156-05:002019-05-20T21:16:55.156-05:00rcocean said...
It funny how no one compliments Go...<i>rcocean said...<br />It funny how no one compliments GoT for being so PC. We got dwarfs, women, and one white guy in the final Game of Thrones.</i><br /><br />But of course, for the PC types, it wasn't PC and inclusive enough. There was all kind of wailing about the killing off of Missandei a couple of episodes earlier and how she and Grey Worm were the only "characters of color." Never mind that almost all of the characters that Martin wrote in the story were portrayed as white. No, we must have inclusiveness über alles.<br />Clydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16736461252925227611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80564201208758549642019-05-20T21:05:06.596-05:002019-05-20T21:05:06.596-05:00Same year Martin published the last of the books. ...<i>Same year Martin published the last of the books. He's promised a sixth book every year since. What a coincidence. </i><br /><br />Rape-Rape Martin is now 71. He's richer than God. His last GoT novel was a weak effort that was just strung out the story. He has no kids (surprised?). Chances of him finishing a new GOT novel? About the same as him losing 100 lbs. rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7096949359318133742019-05-20T20:47:49.552-05:002019-05-20T20:47:49.552-05:00"The guys in charge got a three-movie Disney ..."The guys in charge got a three-movie Disney deal and checked out and phoned in the final season, ignoring HBO's plea for more episodes and seasons. HBO was at fault for not shitcanning their asses and bringing in new showrunners to wrap it up."<br /><br />I suspect truer words were never said.CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91530916741136067402019-05-20T20:34:12.421-05:002019-05-20T20:34:12.421-05:00"The historical analogies are all over that t..."The historical analogies are all over that thing, every detail really. Martin is a great miner of history."<br /><br />If you say so. Others might say he couldn't find an original angle with both hands. I know. I'll title knights Ser instead of Sir. We'll have Maesters instead of Masters. Brilliant. And I write this as someone who enjoyed the books.CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91199354364638655882019-05-20T20:24:29.783-05:002019-05-20T20:24:29.783-05:00If you want to know how the Game of Thrones finish...If you want to know how the Game of Thrones finished, read the series by Druon.stephen cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277962223155674985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63536576485125420252019-05-20T20:23:55.259-05:002019-05-20T20:23:55.259-05:00Footnotes: if you want to illustrate Oedipal conf...Footnotes: if you want to illustrate Oedipal conflict, there's no better way than by having the dwarf son shoot the imperious father with a crossbow while said father is seated on a stone latrine. That was beyond Freud and into Dali territory.......Sansa was raped and abused in demonic ways by Joffrey and Bolton. It is the conceit of the show that this mistreatment helps Sansa become wise in the ways of men and a more sagacious queen.. Feminists claim that this premise is a crock. Well, yes. It's also a crock to say that castration, amputation, and mutilation help men become wiser and more tolerant. Maybe in Westeros......Daenyrus went full Nazi at the end. She even wore a black leather oufit. The transition was too abrupt. I would have preferred she wear something white and clingy. Tone down the darkness a bit. Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33124805067095308282019-05-20T20:16:41.896-05:002019-05-20T20:16:41.896-05:00"The producers followed the books religiously..."The producers followed the books religiously."<br /><br />No they didn't. The story diverged and characters became composites rather quickly after season one.<br /><br />"But RR Martin has not finished writing the series."<br /><br />Dream on. He'll never finish it.<br /><br />"The series began in 2011."<br /><br />Same year Martin published the last of the books. He's promised a sixth book every year since. What a coincidence.<br /><br />CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73531309926792017042019-05-20T20:07:09.470-05:002019-05-20T20:07:09.470-05:00"Never watched it, not enough time in life fo..."Never watched it, not enough time in life for that. For me PBS Les Miserables was worth the hours time on a Sunday night."<br /><br />LOL. Then why write anything at all here? Your snobbish pretensions noted. As if that was a surprise from you. CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8452051265993022042019-05-20T19:57:10.526-05:002019-05-20T19:57:10.526-05:00rcocean at 7:24:brilliant, I agree completely.
rc...rcocean at 7:24:brilliant, I agree completely.<br /><br />rcocean at 7:33: that is one way of looking at it.stephen cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277962223155674985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52447641138857255932019-05-20T19:33:05.658-05:002019-05-20T19:33:05.658-05:00"Most of my favorite shows - Hogans Heroes, G..."Most of my favorite shows - Hogans Heroes, Gilligans Island, the Addams Family - never had a real ending, but I always assumed that Hogan was eventually freed and lived a nice life in California in the 40s and 50s and onwards, and his pals had similarly rewarding post-war lives,"<br /><br />All those shows weren't meant to recorded, or Tivo'd or seen on DVD. You saw them once a week, assuming you were watching TV, and then you never saw the episode again until the summer, or when it went into syndication. Even if you were a little kid, and saw them in reruns like I did, you'd only see the same episode may twice a year.<br /><br />MASH was unusual in that it had an ending that large numbers of people watched. Newhart, MTM, and Seinfeld also had "endings" that i remember. But most shows just got cancelled. That was their "ending". Or they changed so much during their "Run" that the ending was meaningless - Cf: All in the family or Cheers.<br /> rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23788242076121707582019-05-20T19:24:07.261-05:002019-05-20T19:24:07.261-05:00if some percentage of the viewers think they have ...<i>if some percentage of the viewers think they have better ideas than those in charge, I say to them to get on a Greyhound bus and head to Los Angeles to try their hand at it as have so many before....and good luck with that. </i><br /><br />The lame fan-boy excuse. So, if you can't do better, you can't criticize. So, all the film critics, sportswriters and art critics should all just shut up and go away. Professors of literature should all go unemployment unless they offer 100% praise of writers because hey "can they do better"? No one should boo a ball player, NBA star, or football QB, because hey "Can they do better?". In fact, all coaches who "Can't do better" then their players should all quit. What the hell is Steve Kerr doing criticizing Steph Curry? Can he "Do better"?<br /><br />And if I don't like the way the mechanic fixed my car, I should just say nothing because hey "could i do better?" rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67623840693642902462019-05-20T19:22:41.357-05:002019-05-20T19:22:41.357-05:00..... having joined a reading group that focused o........ having joined a reading group that focused on Dante's Paradiso, or something like that.<br /><br />There is a lot to be said for Dante.stephen cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277962223155674985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8664839532554694652019-05-20T19:18:26.987-05:002019-05-20T19:18:26.987-05:00For the record - in my opinion, as someone who nev...For the record - in my opinion, as someone who never watches any of these long format shows from beginning to end, but who has watched a few of them at a 60 or 70 percent rate - the ending of "Lost" was much much better than I thought it would be. Sopranos ended way better than I though the clowns who ran the show were capable of. "The Shield" had a great ending. Most of my favorite shows - Hogans Heroes, Gilligans Island, the Addams Family - never had a real ending, but I always assumed that Hogan was eventually freed and lived a nice life in California in the 40s and 50s and onwards, and his pals had similarly rewarding post-war lives, and I always assumed that the cast of Gilligans Island remained friends, whether they remained stranded or were saved, and I always assumed that, eventually, one day, Morticia and Gomez and Lurch and Grammama joined the Mormon church, or repented of their relatively innocent worldly attachments, having joined a reading group that focused on Dante's Paradiso.stephen cooperhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17277962223155674985noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4382299378796460112019-05-20T19:16:01.244-05:002019-05-20T19:16:01.244-05:00It funny how no one compliments GoT for being so P...It funny how no one compliments GoT for being so PC. We got dwarfs, women, and one white guy in the final Game of Thrones. rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24012106685788800132019-05-20T19:12:45.960-05:002019-05-20T19:12:45.960-05:00I'll watch the DVD's when they come to my ...I'll watch the DVD's when they come to my local library. I stopped watching the shows Real time when John Snow got killed and then "Came back from the dead". It killed the drama for me, because Dead - didn't mean dead - just restin'. <br /><br />Of course, if your corpse gotten eaten by dogs, or burned to a crisp, I guess some witch couldn't bring you back. but it just seemed silly. Plus, I'm not into zombies. <br /><br />But I'll watch the final season on DVD just out of curiosity.rcoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17102201338319611538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29199271571544825302019-05-20T18:48:38.063-05:002019-05-20T18:48:38.063-05:00Tried to watch GOT twice just couldn’t get thru Se...Tried to watch GOT twice just couldn’t get thru Season 2. Seeing Redhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00338495289040972548noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43082763684908173742019-05-20T18:41:33.000-05:002019-05-20T18:41:33.000-05:00Re: Rusty:
I dontknow which bothers me more. That...Re: Rusty:<br /><br /><i>I dontknow which bothers me more. That you know this shit orthat you bothered to memorize this shit.</i><br /><br />I am absolutely a nerd and unashamed! But I did have to google a bit (haha) Balfegorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08012196656096263507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67130262720106377912019-05-20T18:40:07.823-05:002019-05-20T18:40:07.823-05:00I haven’t read the thread, so forgive me if somebo...I haven’t read the thread, so forgive me if somebody said this, but Shakespeare had it right, just kill everybody at the end. <br /><br /><i>Another problem is that I hated most of the characters and the one sympathetic one, Jon Snow, didn't actually do anything.</i><br /><br />So he was an “Indiana Jones” type, whose only role in the plot was showing the Nazis where the Ark was? He was sort of a Nick Carroway to the Ark’s Gatsby. Carroway’s only active role was to introduce Gatsby to Daisy.tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22124961335734409752019-05-20T18:30:48.378-05:002019-05-20T18:30:48.378-05:00Season 5 is the last I watched. It was very boring...Season 5 is the last I watched. It was very boring, with characters doing pointless things. It struck me that they had absolutely no idea where to take this thing and so were just filming "cool" scenes and adding filler in between.<br /><br />Another problem is that I hated most of the characters and the one sympathetic one, Jon Snow, didn't actually do anything.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04450897654318345683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37587644071884740572019-05-20T18:29:57.076-05:002019-05-20T18:29:57.076-05:00Lots of opportunity for spinoffs with that ending....Lots of opportunity for spinoffs with that ending. The survivors all got what they wanted whether it was what they wanted or not. Captain BillyBobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08763169815445862208noreply@blogger.com