tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8606411442942374766..comments2024-03-19T06:25:24.862-05:00Comments on Althouse: Obama frees Chelsea Manning!Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger274125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12859722363909444322017-01-19T06:42:24.733-06:002017-01-19T06:42:24.733-06:00"Uh, no. The truth stands: you were caught wi...<i>"Uh, no. The truth stands: you were caught with your head in your ass."</i><br /><br />Uh, no. The truth is you apparently did not realize I was referring to an actual video of an actual American military massacre of unarmed noncombatants on the ground, but thought I was referring to Hollywood war movies depicting fictional events. <br /><br /><br />Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66831386182349140462017-01-18T19:48:18.433-06:002017-01-18T19:48:18.433-06:00May I ask why is General Cartwright getting suppor...May I ask why is General Cartwright getting support here?Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82345105616620866842017-01-18T18:19:49.379-06:002017-01-18T18:19:49.379-06:00Uh, no. The truth stands: you were caught with you...Uh, no. The truth stands: you were caught with your head in your ass. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91458750183542000532017-01-18T16:30:46.686-06:002017-01-18T16:30:46.686-06:00"You know what DOESN'T stay? The point yo...<i>"You know what DOESN'T stay? The point you were trying to make about how the scene of a helicopter door gunner gunning down random fleeing terrified Vietnamese women and children was based in part on the director's own experiences of war on the ground in that conflict.<br /><br />"In fact, that slander against U.S. servicemen you tried to pull off is pretty much demolished."</i><br /><br />Uh, no, the truth stands. That was in the video--taken from the helicopter--that shot down noncombtatants in Iraq. As for Vietnam, you conveniently forget My Lai, in which a brave helicopter pilot landed his helicopter in order to <i>stop</i> the ongoing slaughter of innocent villagers by US troops.<br /><br />My Lai was not an isolated incident, as other Vietnam vets attest. It just happened to be the one where Americans took action to stop the massacre.Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35638301460378555392017-01-18T13:49:14.894-06:002017-01-18T13:49:14.894-06:00You know what DOESN'T stay? The point you were...You know what DOESN'T stay? The point you were trying to make about how the scene of a helicopter door gunner gunning down random fleeing terrified Vietnamese women and children was based in part on the director's own experiences of war on the ground in that conflict. <br /><br />In fact, that slander against U.S. servicemen you tried to pull off is pretty much demolished. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65640465009227605842017-01-18T11:48:41.243-06:002017-01-18T11:48:41.243-06:00"Oliver Stone did not direct Full Metal Jacke...<i>"Oliver Stone did not direct Full Metal Jacket."</i><br /><br />Yes. I stand corrected. I was thinking of PLATOON. I saw FULL METAL JACKET, but little of it stays with me. Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71829873739904942222017-01-18T11:36:57.665-06:002017-01-18T11:36:57.665-06:00What on earth is the grounds for commuting Manning...What on earth is the grounds for commuting Manning's sentence? Is there any question s/he is guilty of the crime, or that the sentence was unfair? Was there any good reason s/he didn't use existing whistleblower mechanisms?<br /><br />There really should be some check or limit on the pardon power. Particularly after the Marc Rich travesty.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219319435229314554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76017384881998151642017-01-18T10:14:08.708-06:002017-01-18T10:14:08.708-06:00There's a substantial difference between the i...There's a substantial difference between the info Manning leaked and what Snowden leaked (the DNC spearphishing trap is on an entirely different plane of existence ie not national secrets). <br /><br />Manning's leaks were 1) diplomatic cables and 2) tragic accidents during war that were not publicized/kept secret by the US government. Both of Manning's leaks were malicious with no noble intent, except that yes, everyone agrees that bad incidents during war are bad. <br /><br />Snowden's leaks revealed graylegal actions by the NSA and other three-letter agencies against American citizens.<br /><br />In addition to the difference in kind of information released, Manning's leaks were done to damage the United States; if we are extremely charitable and assume best case, that Manning intended to help the US indirectly by exposing these items, Manning is either stupid or malicious to not realize that keeping the stuff secret would have been more helpful to the US. Snowden's leaks were done to help the United States directly. <br /><br />The DNC spearphishing leak was simply hilarious. <br /><br />CJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06868048527131764370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8989100427365678922017-01-18T09:55:38.335-06:002017-01-18T09:55:38.335-06:00James Kahn, Thanks for the priceless 'Obama is...James Kahn, Thanks for the priceless 'Obama is the Florence Foster Jenkins of politicians' comment. Marc in Eugenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04331547981498637474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83288185866288990882017-01-18T09:48:20.524-06:002017-01-18T09:48:20.524-06:00Cook. Dumbass.
Oliver Stone did not direct Full ...Cook. Dumbass. <br /><br />Oliver Stone did not direct Full Metal Jacket. That was Stanley Kubrick. Not a Vietnam veteran. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7565797517309199102017-01-18T09:41:04.484-06:002017-01-18T09:41:04.484-06:00"You do realize Full Metal Jacket was a movie...<i>"You do realize Full Metal Jacket was a movie? Right?"</i><br /><br />That's beside the point, but, for what it's worth:<br /><br />1. Directer Oliver Stone was an infantry soldier in VietNam and he based the movie to some degree on what he experienced of war on the ground in that conflict.<br /><br />2. I was describing what actually happened in the video Manning released to Wikileaks (among the other files he provided them) and which was made available online for anyone to see. I saw it. Didn't you?)Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38481640481844089352017-01-18T09:09:14.441-06:002017-01-18T09:09:14.441-06:00http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/17/pr...http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/jan/17/president-obama-scores-poorly-working-congress-leg/<br /><br />Obama Scores Worst Legislative Record in History.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65526036018184175832017-01-18T08:05:33.146-06:002017-01-18T08:05:33.146-06:00obama is a radical partisan. But he's first bl...obama is a radical partisan. But he's first black, so we much shut up, and let him mow us down with his lies.<br />Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67109080309077204782017-01-18T08:04:27.580-06:002017-01-18T08:04:27.580-06:00"Robert Cook said...
And, I've bet there ..."Robert Cook said...<br />And, I've bet there are vets who support Manning. Not the ones who think it's fine to murder noncombatants from a helicopter, laughing about it all the while..."<br /><br /><br />You do realize Full Metal Jacket was a movie? Right? Curious Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14440726941494085334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57170480443413169892017-01-18T08:00:06.620-06:002017-01-18T08:00:06.620-06:00Like Freeman, I find I can't get outraged abou...Like Freeman, I find I can't get outraged about this move. I guess my ObamaOutrage gland is depleted or something. Just in time.<br /><br />Did chuckle at the comment about Women getting lighter sentences, though.<br /><br />I do hope that his release means taxpayers are off the hook for conversion, but we'll see. The needs of this one should not outweigh the needs of many many other vets who want for more basic needs. In fact, any statement by Trump should include this vaguely Trek-ian statement.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51687355573671765972017-01-18T07:56:00.879-06:002017-01-18T07:56:00.879-06:00Teresa1960:
This person sure seems to know a lot ...Teresa1960:<br /><br />This person sure seems to know a lot about Althouse commenters. Almost like she is an old commenter herself but with a new name. <br /><br />UnknownIngaTeresa?Birkelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14205292523499913507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13724000113897203272017-01-18T07:52:07.942-06:002017-01-18T07:52:07.942-06:00Will Obama pardon Hillary?
I'm voting - yes.Will Obama pardon Hillary?<br /><br />I'm voting - yes. Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82844616667131164202017-01-18T07:34:37.866-06:002017-01-18T07:34:37.866-06:00"'I doubt most Americans really care much...<i><b>"'I doubt most Americans really care much about Manning.'</b><br /><br />"I doubt you know very many vets."</i><br /><br />Vets don't make up the majority of Americans. <br /><br />And, I've bet there are vets who support Manning. Not the ones who think it's fine to murder noncombatants from a helicopter, laughing about it all the while, and killing the man who tried to rescue the wounded, while denigrating him for "bringing a kid to a war zone," (i.e., where this man and these people <i>live</i>, but decent, honorable vets who consider murder and the war-criminals who commit murder to be despicable.Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56738002389546516412017-01-18T07:29:30.167-06:002017-01-18T07:29:30.167-06:00"Democrats think their leftwing leftistness i...<i>"Democrats think their leftwing leftistness is baseline."</i><br /><br />Someone else not paying attention. <i>If only</i> there were a noticeable number of Democrats who actually had any left-of-center political stances. Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21896101371485249792017-01-18T07:10:59.049-06:002017-01-18T07:10:59.049-06:00"I doubt most Americans really care much abou..."I doubt most Americans really care much about Manning."<br /><br />I doubt you know very many vets.<br />JAOREhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819907966430540035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69422381161556541742017-01-18T07:09:44.892-06:002017-01-18T07:09:44.892-06:00" I'm an atheist, but now is not the time..." I'm an atheist, but now is not the time. Please God...."<br /><br />The strongest statement of I-have-no-core-beliefs I can recall.<br /><br />JAOREhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819907966430540035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79260902769971606722017-01-18T06:54:13.704-06:002017-01-18T06:54:13.704-06:00Democrats think their leftwing leftistness is base...Democrats think their leftwing leftistness is baseline. They do not think they are partisan at all. That's why Castro and Hugo Chavez are perfectly normal dictators. Baseline dictators.<br />Joe Biden, America's Putinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05802605309593881825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22761192759698876922017-01-18T06:21:04.998-06:002017-01-18T06:21:04.998-06:00Cookie wrote: You haven't been paying attentio...Cookie wrote: <i>You haven't been paying attention.</i><br /><br />Sophistry... but what else can one expect.Quaestorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13688608372863540573noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77598565957721992612017-01-18T06:07:48.512-06:002017-01-18T06:07:48.512-06:00"Obama has to have been the most partisan pre...<i>"Obama has to have been the most partisan president since I have been paying attention."</i><br /><br />You haven't been paying attention. Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12761273571257997302017-01-18T06:04:05.970-06:002017-01-18T06:04:05.970-06:00"The Democrats are working really hard to mak...<i>"The Democrats are working really hard to make sure they never get the white, non-coastal, non-urban vote again, aren't they?<br /><br />"Imagine the fun of being a Democratic office holder (e.g. senator) in a purple state & having to talk this one down at the next town hall meeting. That's an Excedrin headache, fer shure, fer shure."</i><br /><br />I doubt most Americans really care much about Manning. They have more exigent concerns. The Democrats will attract voters if they ever decide to actually address such concerns and stop chasing the Republicans in their zeal to abase themselves as lickspittles to the plutocrats. As the Dems don't seem to have learned anything from their recent calamitous loss, I won't be holding my breath. Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.com