tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8214477504315141914..comments2024-03-28T21:09:56.223-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Readers Accuse Us of Normalizing a Nazi Sympathizer; We Respond."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger296125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48924622339145288842017-11-29T16:31:02.374-06:002017-11-29T16:31:02.374-06:00Hovater's own words: https://www.tradworker.or...Hovater's own words: https://www.tradworker.org/2016/02/is-pantera-a-latin-term-for-big-pussy/jghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05254850370113601762noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38186176080994217332017-11-27T15:35:51.139-06:002017-11-27T15:35:51.139-06:00ARM still hasn’t posted any evidence of an Antifa ...ARM still hasn’t posted any evidence of an Antifa baseball team playing a game nearby that day. <br /><br />S why were all those baseball bats there? Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-92083901814313542652017-11-27T15:07:29.636-06:002017-11-27T15:07:29.636-06:00"How could the murder have been any more deli..."How could the murder have been any more deliberate? He ran his car into a crowd at speed."<br /><br />Maybe if Fields had actually seen Heyer, and aimed his car directly at her, or even had prior knowledge of her existence, it could have been more deliberate. True, he let his car run into the crowd, not by accelerating, but by coasting too fast for conditions, which is possibly even worse (no engine revving to warn anyone to flee). <br /><br />However, I doubt, because of the crowd in the street, Fields even saw the car ahead of him. He probably expected the crowd to scatter as he ran through it. He applied the brakes, that is proven, but too late, of course.<br /><br />That still is a negligent and malicious act, but it's far from clear that he deliberately tried to kill anyone.Char Char Binks, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10649888089413308406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31552691089179929332017-11-27T14:49:42.990-06:002017-11-27T14:49:42.990-06:00I'm the handsome one.
;-) Yep, it's pr...<b>I'm the handsome one.</b> <br /><br />;-) Yep, it's probably the beard.mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73581609030009911122017-11-27T13:31:44.379-06:002017-11-27T13:31:44.379-06:00I'm the handsome one.I'm the handsome one.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5495040842848598392017-11-27T12:38:03.826-06:002017-11-27T12:38:03.826-06:00Sometimes ARM reminds me a lot of Chuck. Are they...Sometimes ARM reminds me a lot of Chuck. Are they ever seen together?mockturtlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507310332014103437noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73268382250886829462017-11-27T12:35:31.492-06:002017-11-27T12:35:31.492-06:00Rusty said...
Pretty funny coming from one of our ...<i>Rusty said...<br />Pretty funny coming from one of our resident fascists.</i><br /><br />For this to make any sense you would have to show that I have espoused fascist beliefs. Knock yourself out. Recognizing that taxes are a necessary part of civilized life does not count.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32741107151276448882017-11-27T12:09:10.507-06:002017-11-27T12:09:10.507-06:00AReasonableMan said...
"Another Nazi apologis...AReasonableMan said...<br />"Another Nazi apologist refuses to own his own beliefs."<br /><br />Pretty funny coming from one of our resident fascists.<br />I know. The rule of law is something you bludgeon your enemies with. It doesn't apply to you.<br />Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52154724490355572452017-11-27T12:00:45.963-06:002017-11-27T12:00:45.963-06:00AReasonableMan said...Unlike you I don't dismi...<i>AReasonableMan said...Unlike you I don't dismiss one half of the political spectrum as beyond the pale. Instead, I hold individuals accountable for their actual words and arguments.</i><br /><br />Not beyond the pale, my friend; you've misread me entirely.<br />It is precisely because I take the Left and the Leftist Media seriously--because I hold them accountable for their actual words and arguments--that I do not put much weight on their assertions now that giving even neutral coverage to terrible people (terrible right wing people, if you like) is unacceptable and uniquely bad.<br /><br />The Left spends a lot of time demanding that I care about "root causes" and look beyond the superficial when they're excusing one act of violence/terrorism or another--just so long as the act is committed by a group the Left favors in some way (a religious minority/Muslim, a far left ideologue, etc). I see think pieces about what the "real motivation" was, how it's really America's policy from 4 decades ago that's causing Palestinian terrorists to kill Israeli babies, and on and on. Endless deep dives into cause and motivation...just so long as the ultimate guilt--the REAL cause--is some party the Left doesn't like. <br /><br />Comes now a reporter to interview a self-proclaimed Nazi sympathizer and even though that interview was in no way flattering to that person the Left wails and cries that it's wrong and immoral to even give such a person a platform--to even engage in any way with this assertions/arguments or dive into what might motivate his behavior and his beliefs. This, of course, is the exact opposite of the Left's usual attitude (as I mention above) and so for that reason I simply don't believe it.<br /><br />I do not believe the (implied) assertion that the Left has, as a principle, a commitment to not giving airtime to terrible, violent people nor to not allowing them to excuse their beliefs or actions. The pose/posture that they do, therefore, is bullshit.HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-876091220974736472017-11-27T11:46:16.856-06:002017-11-27T11:46:16.856-06:00Some of you guys are truly delusional about what h...Some of you guys are truly delusional about what happened at Charlottesville and how it fits into the bigger picture. Even with a reasonable economy and a small number of wars, Trump is still very unpopular. A big part of the reason for that is Charlottesville. It was a very simple moral test and he failed spectacularly. The middle class don't want their daughters being mowed down by Nazi thugs. It's not complicated.<br /><br /><br /><br />Speaking of delusional, do you believe ANYTHING you write on this site?Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14749560567789004022017-11-27T11:45:41.825-06:002017-11-27T11:45:41.825-06:00AReasonableMan said...
Bad Lieutenant said...
Just...AReasonableMan said...<br />Bad Lieutenant said...<br />Just like you would go to the stake to assert for your Muslim road rage pal.<br /><br />You had to lie to make your argument. Doesn't say a lot for the strength of your argument, does it.<br /><br /><br />Huh what? I usually sigh and let your drivel pass but what lie?Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46621801102316482472017-11-27T11:43:12.689-06:002017-11-27T11:43:12.689-06:00Some of you guys are truly delusional about what h...Some of you guys are truly delusional about what happened at Charlottesville and how it fits into the bigger picture. Even with a reasonable economy and a small number of wars, Trump is still very unpopular. A big part of the reason for that is Charlottesville. It was a very simple moral test and he failed spectacularly. The middle class don't want their daughters being mowed down by Nazi thugs. It's not complicated.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38616764699814906272017-11-27T11:32:48.217-06:002017-11-27T11:32:48.217-06:00Bad Lieutenant said...
Just like you would go to t...<i>Bad Lieutenant said...<br />Just like you would go to the stake to assert for your Muslim road rage pal.</i><br /><br />You had to lie to make your argument. Doesn't say a lot for the strength of your argument, does it.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45606247692131374662017-11-27T11:31:35.473-06:002017-11-27T11:31:35.473-06:00HoodlumDoodlum said...
This "how dare you!?&q...<i> HoodlumDoodlum said...<br />This "how dare you!?" bullshit from the Left is too obvious to take seriously</i><br /><br />Unlike you I don't dismiss one half of the political spectrum as beyond the pale. Instead, I hold individuals accountable for their actual words and arguments.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39704539387912881192017-11-27T11:31:14.734-06:002017-11-27T11:31:14.734-06:00Blogger AReasonableMan said...
Neither said it or ...Blogger AReasonableMan said...<br />Neither said it or implied it. Happy to see due process proceed at its regular stately pace.<br /><br />11/27/17, 11:25 AM<br /><br /><br />Good, so we're all agreed that Fields is innocent?<br /><br />Because he hasn't yet been proved guilty in a court of law.<br /><br />Just like you would go to the stake to assert for your Muslim road rage pal.Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87090057731170651292017-11-27T11:30:00.486-06:002017-11-27T11:30:00.486-06:00Who here would support that?
You?Who here would support that? <br /><br />You?Bad Lieutenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18091901464339059169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35109692017323846272017-11-27T11:28:59.972-06:002017-11-27T11:28:59.972-06:00Bruce Hayden said...
Maybe we can get Ann to set u...<i>Bruce Hayden said...<br />Maybe we can get Ann to set up an online poll to see which of us made the better case.</i><br /><br />A. An appeal to the mob.<br />B. You didn't make a case you looked for excuses. Understandable if you were his defense lawyer. Difficult to explain if you think you are an objective observer.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7396162048383441532017-11-27T11:26:32.519-06:002017-11-27T11:26:32.519-06:00Geez; over 250 comments and no one has mentioned R...Geez; over 250 comments and no one has mentioned Rolling Stone's Tsarnev Boy Band cover?<br /><br />This "how dare you!?" bullshit from the Left is too obvious to take seriously. They routinely lionize terrible people of all stripes: cop killers like Mumia Abu-Jamal, Assata Shakur, Leonard Peltier, terrorists like Oscar Lopez Rivera and Bill Ayers, and even straight up mass murderers like Che. Witness the fawning coverage the NYTimes has given in recent weeks to the 1917 Communist revolution, complete with articles arguing that this or that (sex, women's freedom, leisure time) was better under rule of the same Reds ultimately responsible for north of 100 million deaths!<br /><br />Like I said: their bullshit here is too obvious to even engage with. Give me a break.HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70907930130313914002017-11-27T11:25:02.174-06:002017-11-27T11:25:02.174-06:00Neither said it or implied it. Happy to see due pr...Neither said it or implied it. Happy to see due process proceed at its regular stately pace.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29950542678996784752017-11-27T11:16:31.721-06:002017-11-27T11:16:31.721-06:00No. You strongly implied it. Own your comments.No. You strongly implied it. Own your comments.FIDOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04768886981584556497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23661179392357730272017-11-27T11:14:53.464-06:002017-11-27T11:14:53.464-06:00You are happy to let him suffer due process...afte...You are happy to let him suffer due process...after you try to smear him as a terrorist.<br /><br />Nothing like poisoning the well...particularly when you seem so selective with the facts.<br /><br />Smearing isn't justice. Nor is character assassination.FIDOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04768886981584556497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41558014352012761582017-11-27T11:12:46.148-06:002017-11-27T11:12:46.148-06:00FIDO said...
You seem to feel that simply being a ...<i>FIDO said...<br />You seem to feel that simply being a Nazi is criminal in and of itself. </i><br /><br />Didn't say this.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21336804223390403612017-11-27T11:11:36.154-06:002017-11-27T11:11:36.154-06:00No one is suggesting that the Nazi murderer should...No one is suggesting that the Nazi murderer shouldn't get due process. This is a pitiful attempt at distraction. What is inexcusable is making excuses for his actions that are unrelated to any reasonable understanding of who he is and what he did.<br />Beloved Commenter AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14139261862363663232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43595139800369633422017-11-27T11:09:01.285-06:002017-11-27T11:09:01.285-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.AReasonableManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12866094410102653663noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73148513674797896672017-11-27T11:00:43.864-06:002017-11-27T11:00:43.864-06:00Again, not talking about HIM.
You seem to feel th...Again, not talking about HIM.<br /><br />You seem to feel that simply being a Nazi is criminal in and of itself. <br /><br />That is no more true than being a Communist should be a crime in and of itself.<br /><br />Who was the Communist again?<br /><br />The question is what was the motive of the violence committed. Sorry, but that isn't clear and I reject your assertions. Not because your assertion is impossible. Just that your opinion is so hopelessly partisan and biased that you have zero credibility, particularly when you distort and make false equivalencies. <br /><br /><br />We are not dinging you for your theory: just for your dishonesty.FIDOhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04768886981584556497noreply@blogger.com