tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7930050703299913415..comments2024-03-18T20:41:46.283-05:00Comments on Althouse: Althouse and Meade return to the Veterans Memorial and encounter apologetic protesters, the police, and a rudeness expert.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger180125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73366930977136045612011-02-28T16:03:12.106-06:002011-02-28T16:03:12.106-06:00They are saving democracy...by preventing a vote??...They are saving democracy...by preventing a vote??Munseyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17855874413022710463noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13708725237447571372011-02-28T14:42:20.654-06:002011-02-28T14:42:20.654-06:00There is a difference between "Democracy"...There is a difference between "Democracy" and a "Republic".<br /><br />Thanks to the men and women in uniform who have fought and died for this great country, the United States of America. http://veteransflagdepot.comTonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09128378452868795818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51065179378317567242011-02-28T07:48:38.862-06:002011-02-28T07:48:38.862-06:00Not to excuse the rudeness of the rudeness expert,...Not to excuse the rudeness of the rudeness expert, but if you were walking around like you had a stick up your ass, you might be rude, too.Clydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16736461252925227611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7254531291430497792011-02-28T05:42:05.584-06:002011-02-28T05:42:05.584-06:00Nice parody, Tiger. You've got Libtard down pa...Nice parody, Tiger. You've got Libtard down pat.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16569962097811934472011-02-27T22:52:12.773-06:002011-02-27T22:52:12.773-06:00Ann Althouse, did you offer to help find a safe pl...Ann Althouse, did you offer to help find a safe place to store the protesters belongings? <br />Have YOU ever lifted a finger to struggle for democracy? <br />Perhaps you should do something useful before you are so quick to criticize those who are.Tiger Press Thaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13876618503822950772noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46403071586481860192011-02-27T21:51:59.749-06:002011-02-27T21:51:59.749-06:00Yes, her comment is indeed a non sequitur: defendi...Yes, her comment is indeed a non sequitur: defending your rights is not the same as "saving democracy" - a dictator or military junta could (in theory) allow unions with as many rights as any union in Europe. Besides, I'd say the whole "saving democracy" project is about a decade late at this point, unless the "saving" involves taxidermy. <br /><br />AA hasn't been keeping up - obviously, civility is optional until or unless someone starts shooting the protesters through the head ... & even then, it only needs to apply for a week or so.jimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06840719620959481121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72156312958986787042011-02-27T21:49:59.664-06:002011-02-27T21:49:59.664-06:00Take this quarter, go downtown, and have a rat gna...Take this quarter, go downtown, and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face! Good day to you, madam.caplighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00983163610332465182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87909392412962586562011-02-27T20:55:44.390-06:002011-02-27T20:55:44.390-06:00The woman's accent sounded like New Hampshire....The woman's accent sounded like New Hampshire.Janehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13508187195788782780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44500216475637160392011-02-27T20:38:20.148-06:002011-02-27T20:38:20.148-06:00Actually AVI I prefer a political blog dominated b...Actually AVI I prefer a political blog dominated by the opposition as it were. Especially a site like AA where most conservatives are self-righteous, especially in their disingenuous sarcasm.<br /><br />btw, nice of AVI to more or less admit AA is a <b><i>(((conservative)))</i></b> site.<br /><br />And the truth shall set you free ...<br /><br />The 1st political forum I frequented after the 2006 election most of the regular conservatives left and after the 2008 election, they all left ~ go figure.<br /><br />Liberals as a rule, never leave, unless they get totally bored by the continual conservative whining ie Alex.<br /><br />Or if it's a totally conservative site, liberals may be banned and at sites like redstate/freeperville/malkin I hear liberals are banned instantaneously. And if you're a Rep/con at these sites and say something bad about ms. palin you may also be banned.<br /><br />btw, HP is equal parts libs/cons shouting at each other, and only 5% of HP has to do w/politics anyways.shilohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16490952508600134457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19998960704421356902011-02-27T20:08:20.119-06:002011-02-27T20:08:20.119-06:00It is all very tribal, especially with Arts & ...<i>It is all very tribal, especially with Arts & Humanities liberals. If you are not emphatically in their tribe, you are perceived as being part of some vast dangerous horde outside of it.</i><br /><br />I was not going to post again today, but your comment brought me back! Yes such is the fanatical level for the leftists that if you are not 100% with them, you are their enemy. Their world is strictly binary.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12998187517036042362011-02-27T20:06:48.343-06:002011-02-27T20:06:48.343-06:00Ridicule isn't torture. But there is an impor...Ridicule isn't torture. But there is an important difference, not just emotionally, but with real consequences, of ridicule by the dominant culture versus ridicule by random players in the environment.<br /><br />In my field, social work, people occasionally lose their jobs because of their politics (not that it is put that way), and more frequently, will not be hired. Advancement by conservatives is negligible. So the ridicule of the dominant culture is a not a sticks-and-stones issue, as somefeller is attempting to portray. In general, more liberal commenters entering a conservative site's threads find the situation of <i>not</i> having significant numerical dominance so threatening that they quickly accuse everyone else of being a unified mass of opposition and become unable to hear even dramatic differences clearly. It is all very tribal, especially with Arts & Humanities liberals. If you are not emphatically in their tribe, you are perceived as being part of some vast dangerous horde outside of it.Assistant Village Idiothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978011985085795099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58128288410158990022011-02-27T18:36:49.729-06:002011-02-27T18:36:49.729-06:00I thought "Meade" and "Althouse&quo...<b><i>I thought "Meade" and "Althouse" were the rudeness experts. I can't believe she so easily gives up the mantle. And, from someone without a Wisconsin accent - now that is rude!! I mean, having piles of stuff near a memorial!!! Outrageous!!<br /><br />The protesters should apologize and join the Koch brothers in supporting Governor Walker. Then they should pass a law mandating that all signs be aesthetically pleasing to Professor Althouse and hung using art store-bought professional hanging materials. If that doesn't work, perhaps only Wisconsin citizens with photo i.d. should be allowed to protest in our Capitol.<br />~~~~~</i></b><br /><br />Just the right amount of snark! ;)<br /><br />><br /><br /><b><i>I'm out of here unless Althouse does something about these obnoxious trolls.</i></b><br /><br />Alex AA's #1 whiner is out again, just like yesterday. "We" eagerly await his I'm outta here tomorrow also.<br /><br />It's always amusing on political blogs when some fool announces they are leaving for good only to return a couple hours later.<br /><br />Yesterday when Alex said he was out he returned withing minutes lol.<br /><br />As Crack would say ~ C-ya!shilohhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16490952508600134457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25576645944380053932011-02-27T17:54:08.765-06:002011-02-27T17:54:08.765-06:00And if you think only liberals engage in the polit...And if you think only liberals engage in the politics of personal destruction, you are as politically naive as you are historically illiterate, Edutcher. As the old saying goes, politics ain't beanbag.somefellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15013403004665789644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18012870514976494452011-02-27T17:51:51.709-06:002011-02-27T17:51:51.709-06:00Edutcher says:The subject was not ridicule - the s...Edutcher says:<i>The subject was not ridicule - the subject was destroying people. No rebuttal, I see.</i><br /><br />Original quote I was commenting on:<i>Lacking a Gulag, the Left deals with reporting from the Right with scorn and ridicule.</i><br /><br />Sure looks like the subject being discussed was ridicule. Once again - improve your reading comprehension!somefellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15013403004665789644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67482958435617720092011-02-27T17:50:38.118-06:002011-02-27T17:50:38.118-06:00Actually, the veterans memorial is not for "p...Actually, the veterans memorial is not for "people who died in a war." According to the plaque mounted on it, the memorial is for "Wisconsin veterans who served the cause of freedom so valiantly and unselfishly during times of armed conflict and times of peace."<br /><br />But it suits the professor's "neutral" purpose better to wave the bloody shirt.<br /><br />Being so absorbed in the cause of our nation's veterans, perhaps the meadhouse would care to review and fix up the often deplorable condition of Wisconsin's other veterans' memorials? List with condition as of 2005 here:<br /><br />http://www.postcrescent.com/<br />article/99999999/APC0101/<br />50930007/100-sites-visited<br /><br />Or perhaps they could visit some of Wisconsin's veterans in person, bringing companionship and a little cheer? That would show real respect to those who sacrificed for the cause of freedom.<br /><br />The state veterans' home at King is a two hour drive away, while th one in Union Grove is only 90 minutes.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19975341364950968352011-02-27T17:44:05.281-06:002011-02-27T17:44:05.281-06:00Reason magazine regularly reports/comments on poli...Reason magazine regularly reports/comments on police and videotaping. <a href="http://reason.com/search?cx=000107342346889757597:scm_knrboh8&cof=FORID:11&ie=UTF-8&q=videotape+police&sa=Search" rel="nofollow">Here's a quick search</a> from their Hit and Run Website. This goes beyond "saying the wrong thing on camera". Its disturbing and it was disturbing to watch in this snippet.Phil 314https://www.blogger.com/profile/04133300763922742206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62962333330098474192011-02-27T17:25:56.252-06:002011-02-27T17:25:56.252-06:00My Daddy would spank my behind off of the stratosp...My Daddy would spank my behind off of the stratosphere if I defaced any memorial, public place or even our own home. Folks that did this defacing need one of my Daddy's therapies to realign their attitudes.Pamelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02185611718849062452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31844853720416157032011-02-27T17:19:13.069-06:002011-02-27T17:19:13.069-06:00The teachers, and union thugs including that woman...The teachers, and union thugs including that woman are totally classless individuals. They are going to get their "asses" handed to them all across America.<br /><br />Time for public unions to be decertified in every state. Taxpayers don't have to agree to be exorted by public "servants" and their Democrat Union Thugs.orbicularioculihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04245001772815165670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63347181921567142682011-02-27T17:10:15.162-06:002011-02-27T17:10:15.162-06:00Thanks, R.L.
I couldn't give a crap about wh...Thanks, R.L. <br /><br />I couldn't give a crap about whether she was bused in or moved there or was born there or whatever, I just know I've heard that accent before. <br />The fact that she looks like a cross between Sam Waterston and Sue Furt has no bearing on my analysis of her classlessness.Lincolntfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04620264736967842427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7102425285897270982011-02-27T16:51:45.391-06:002011-02-27T16:51:45.391-06:00somefeller said...
The intended effect is the sam...somefeller said...<br /><br /><i><b>The intended effect is the same - silence them, drive them from public life, discredit their ideology.</b><br /><br />Because such tools are never used by conservatives. Rush Limbaugh, R. Emmett Tyrrell, Bill Buckley - they never ridiculed anyone they disagreed with!</i><br /><br />The subject was not ridicule - the subject was destroying people. No rebuttal, I see.<br /><br /><i><b>And, until the Lefties can build a Gulag, it's the best they've got.</b><br /><br />So you are a historically illiterate moron, too. No surprise. But I guess imagining that you are fighting against the Soviets is better than thinking about your status in real life. Sort of like Walter Mitty, only sadder.</i><br /><br />Invective is never a good substitute for rebuttal.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15589958656028023357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39602286970372340722011-02-27T16:36:22.446-06:002011-02-27T16:36:22.446-06:00I'm pretty sure that the accent is Gungan (ala...I'm pretty sure that the accent is Gungan (ala Jar Jar Binks) and that could work since Gungans are rudeness experts ('How Wude').opfor311https://www.blogger.com/profile/05811432985356653944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48338271469393485562011-02-27T16:32:35.706-06:002011-02-27T16:32:35.706-06:00I'm more interested in her concept of democrac...I'm more interested in her concept of democracy than of rudeness. Democracy is simply mob rule which is something this lady seems to be very comfortable with. What made us great (when it was still relevant) was our Constitution. Now that we have lost it to the post-modern crowd we are left with nothing but democracy and it is a damn poor substitute for the constitutional republic that enshrined the rights and liberties that had made us so prosperous in thought and possession for so long.<br /><br />Even so, the democracy she is thinking of is not one of votes and the will of the people... her side has already lost that. The democracy she imagines is one of who can intimidate the most and who is willing to go the farthest to get what they want... even if what they want defies all the laws of mathematics and economics... or even just plain good sense. <br /><br />This is the concept of democracy that animates Cloward, Piven, Obaam, Trumka and most of the protesters across the middle east and europe. I had struggled to understand why there were so many signs mentioning Egypt or Libya when there is no real parallel at all and I think it comes down to this; the left equates democracy with deciding which mob will rule the streets and divide the assets.<br /><br />It is the democracy of the jackals and not of the sheep. But alas for them the sheep have grown tired of the shearing.georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11402720592452236525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19957730068943415852011-02-27T16:27:39.272-06:002011-02-27T16:27:39.272-06:00And then there are attempts to remove context ... ...<i>And then there are attempts to remove context ... even when the full quote is readily available.</i><br /><br />Your full quote didn't add any context, and as you said, it was available for anyone to see. In any case, your comment stood for itself and it was stupid. Perhaps you and Edutcher can get a time-share together or something. Sort of a summer rental for historically illiterate dimwits.somefellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15013403004665789644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22151875773828213542011-02-27T16:21:56.219-06:002011-02-27T16:21:56.219-06:00Yeah, because scorn and ridicule are part of the s...<i>Yeah, because scorn and ridicule are part of the same continuum as the Gulag. It's just a question of the tools at hand. I mean, isn't it just obvious? </i><br /><br />I said: <b>"Lacking a Gulag, the Left deals with reporting from the Right with scorn and ridicule. Quote the NY Times or CNN and your references are treated with respect. Quote FOX and there are a dozen voices that will dismiss your evidence out of hand. And on blogs like this we can be sure that either paid or volunteer disrupters are deployed to try to shout you down. For myself, I just scroll quickly past them once they identify themselves – usually in the first sentence of their screeds."</b><br /><br />And then there are attempts to remove context ... even when the full quote is readily available. That is such a futile effort. The writers for the NY Times have an easier time because they get an opportunity to paraphrase and the alphabet networks can do it with proper editing of video. You, on the other hand, as stuck trying to mischaracterize what I said, while everyone can read what I wrote. Not very smart.Moneyrunnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12940253500799383224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74407832870194868162011-02-27T16:14:25.926-06:002011-02-27T16:14:25.926-06:00The intended effect is the same - silence them, dr...<i>The intended effect is the same - silence them, drive them from public life, discredit their ideology.</i><br /><br />Because such tools are never used by conservatives. Rush Limbaugh, R. Emmett Tyrrell, Bill Buckley - they never ridiculed anyone they disagreed with!<br /><br /><i>And, until the Lefties can build a Gulag, it's the best they've got.</i><br /><br />So you are a historically illiterate moron, too. No surprise. But I guess imagining that you are fighting against the Soviets is better than thinking about your status in real life. Sort of like Walter Mitty, only sadder.somefellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15013403004665789644noreply@blogger.com