tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7875876510384781350..comments2024-03-29T07:33:25.844-05:00Comments on Althouse: The WaPo Fact Checker checks "What Benghazi family members say Hillary Clinton said about the video" and comes up empty.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger63125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12610617854562169692016-01-06T07:57:55.066-06:002016-01-06T07:57:55.066-06:00Here's what I wrote a few days after the attac...Here's what I wrote a few days after the attack, with photographs of the "heavily fortified" chain link fence along one side of the compound. <br />http://blog.militaryauthority.com/blog-1/bid/222078/opinion-benghazi-whats-going-on<br /><br />I originally handed the piece in under the title "Benghazi: You Are Being Lied To." My editor didn't want to go out on a limb so she changed the title when she posted it. But.... We were being lied to. And it was Clinton and the entire Obama Administration doing the lying. <br /><br />This was written before the caskets even got to Dover. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42647388915416602912016-01-06T07:44:41.092-06:002016-01-06T07:44:41.092-06:00I remember Hillary came out shortly after the even...I remember Hillary came out shortly after the event claiming that the compound was "heavily fortified."<br /><br />At the time I had already seen a number of photos taken from around the consulate. One entire side of the compound in Benghazi was protected by... Drum roll... A chain link fence. <br /><br />Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88963227959790134152016-01-05T10:50:54.136-06:002016-01-05T10:50:54.136-06:00"I do often wonder whether these media people..."I do often wonder whether these media people really are aware they're lying or if they're still clueless."<br /><br />I think they'll happily edit their memories to suit whatever today's official truth requires them to remember. With as much practice as they have lying to the public, they've had even more experience lying to themselves.Bryan Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10387816413528886340noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57154471333633742072016-01-05T06:54:44.342-06:002016-01-05T06:54:44.342-06:00Keep in mind, she also believes in séances and UFO...Keep in mind, she also believes in séances and UFO's. She's Christine O'Donnell without being attractive.<br /><br />Did she lie? Given her history, I have little doubt. damikeschttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02133230009952160269noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64889004676980019672016-01-05T04:25:33.165-06:002016-01-05T04:25:33.165-06:00The capacity for self delusion is great.
Yes! Ab...<i>The capacity for self delusion is great.</i><br /><br />Yes! Absolutely right. For instance, the media censors abortion photographs. Routinely they do this, as a matter of course. 40 years of news coverage, and they've never shown us an abortion. Weird, right? Half the country thinks it's a homicide, the other half says it's not. The government says these are not people. <br /><br />So run a photograph, try to figure it out! Abortion at 6 weeks, abortion at 10 weeks, abortion at 14 weeks, at 18 weeks, at 22 weeks. You would think somebody would do this, right? These aren't people and nobody's being killed. And yet, simultaneously, journalists censor these photographs, as if this is an atrocity that we can't look at. <br /><br />I have no doubt they aren't thinking about it! It's self-delusion. The capacity for self-delusion is great. Or (and I love this line, from <b><i>Joe vs. the Volcano</i></b>), it's a brain cloud. The doctors told Joe he had a brain cloud. Joe's like, "I'm going to die. I've got a brain cloud." And then, at the end of the movie, Meg Ryan asks him, "What's a brain cloud?" <br /><br />And the funny thing is, when I watched the movie, I believed Joe had a brain cloud too! So, yes, the doctor was a liar. But Joe was an innocent man who was fooled by the lie, because he had not thought about it in critical fashion.<br /><br />So that's a question to ask any and every journalist you know. "What's an abortion look like, and why are we censoring these photographs?" Plant that seed.Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17417991258370543962016-01-04T23:06:25.375-06:002016-01-04T23:06:25.375-06:00Remember the movie "13 Hours" is coming...Remember the movie <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/13_Hours:_The_Secret_Soldiers_of_Benghazi" rel="nofollow"> "13 Hours" is coming out next week. </a><br /><br />I doubt that Disney will be able to hide this one. I'm sure nobody expects an Oscar but I suspect it will do well at the box office.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79499117729080211242016-01-04T17:41:49.508-06:002016-01-04T17:41:49.508-06:00Article: "The evidence was mixed, open to int...Article: "The evidence was mixed, open to interpretation, but we concluded that there was not enough for GOP rivals to make definitive judgments that she lied."<br /><br />Consider her history. I always like to start with the "missing" Whitewater tax file that somehow showed up, after subpoenas and stonewalling, in the White House personal quarters.Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17424384180201600935noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62269130005381185442016-01-04T17:35:20.297-06:002016-01-04T17:35:20.297-06:00HiLIARy has no credibility and neither do her medi...HiLIARy has no credibility and neither do her media lapdogs. Real Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457301904108193495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15223675436302409562016-01-04T16:55:25.270-06:002016-01-04T16:55:25.270-06:00Just run the video of her blaming the filmmaker wi...Just run the video of her blaming the filmmaker with the caption do you trust this lying incompetent to be Commander In Chief? Throw in her 3am ad withe caption she had the call and hung up. cubanbobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03746305669005611456noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64596444629528086992016-01-04T16:17:58.624-06:002016-01-04T16:17:58.624-06:00And, the state department put on a media blitz ove...And, the state department put on a media blitz overseas dis avowing the vid. Obviously attempting to solidify blame on it. FullMoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07541560904252155570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74538829654903910342016-01-04T16:14:58.160-06:002016-01-04T16:14:58.160-06:00The most important phrase in Hillary!'s speech...The most important phrase in Hillary!'s speech at Andrews AFB was "that we had nothing to do with". You might think at first that it was the "hateful internet video" that "we had nothing to do with", but in context the implication is broader, that "we had nothing to do with" what happened in Benghazi on 9/11/12. And who is "we"? "We" in context doesn't mean "the United States", it means "President Obama and me." That's what this is all about. Not about the deaths of five brave Americans, but about Obama and Hillary! not being responsible for those deaths.<br /><br />Remember that when these Americans were brought home from Benghazi Obama was in the final stretch of his re-election campaign, in which one of the accomplishments he was touting was that he had killed bin Laden and largely defeated al Qaeda (as Biden put it so eloquently, "Detroit's alive and bin Laden's dead."). Hillary!'s chance to become president in 2016 depended on Obama's reelection in 2012. Also, of course, as Secretary of State she was responsible (in Harry Truman's "the buck stops here" sense) for the security of US diplomatic facilities abroad. So it was important to her that the attack on the Benghazi Consulate not be seen as evidence that al Qaeda was still an active threat to US lives and interests, or as evidence that the State Department had failed to detect an obvious threat to the Benghazi Consulate and take appropriate defensive measures. If the attack was a spontaneous reaction to this video that had just popped up on the internet, that would cover both Obama's and Hillary!'s asses. When you listen to Hillary!'s remarks, the phrase "that we had nothing to do with" at first seems kind of jarring and out of place in a ceremony to honor five brave Americans who died for their country. But in fact it's the only thing she cared about, or cares about now: That she not be held accountable.<br /><br />That's evidence of her character, and the one overriding reason why she should not ever become president.The Godfatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10575359417766667457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25125729952988921402016-01-04T16:11:21.710-06:002016-01-04T16:11:21.710-06:00"No you don't. "
Yes I do! The capa..."No you don't. "<br /><br />Yes I do! The capacity for self delusion is great. I can really see someone convincing themselves that the paraphrase is <i>really </i> what she meant. Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05973774692416760687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17286010303618852362016-01-04T15:38:20.971-06:002016-01-04T15:38:20.971-06:00Pity the the victim of the infamous Clinton scanda...Pity the the victim of the infamous Clinton scandals (mostly named "gate" on the end). Hillary summed up the unfairness of it all with what was supposed to be one of Chelsea's favorite nursery rhymes: <br /><br />As I was standing in the street,<br />As quiet as could be,<br />A great big ugly man came up<br />And tied his horse to me.<br /><br />But the Wicked Witch of the West Wing wouldn't have a clue as to what "standing quietly" means and Ken Star is not an ugly man. Or did she really refer to Vince Foster?gadflyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219461694806089345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54519406924055288742016-01-04T15:35:30.555-06:002016-01-04T15:35:30.555-06:00If Hillary did relate Benghazi to the Video at oth...If Hillary did relate Benghazi to the Video at other times, what the heck does it matter if she did or didn't do the same while meeting in person with people related to victims?MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40442827000790493622016-01-04T15:13:30.031-06:002016-01-04T15:13:30.031-06:00She's not as good as her betrothed at keeping ...She's not as good as her betrothed at keeping her lies straight; Bill was miraculous as he lied constantly and could remember every one of those prevarications 10 years later, and exactly who he told them to. BJ, of course, lied when truth would have been just fine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83993707782104213262016-01-04T14:58:04.297-06:002016-01-04T14:58:04.297-06:00@Yancey Ward: I mean, all you really have to suppo...@Yancey Ward:<i> I mean, all you really have to support the charge of a lie on Clinton's part is authenticated video of her blaming the internet video. How one then uses that to prove Clinton blamed the video is mystifying to me.</i><br /><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Tortoise_Said_to_Achilles" rel="nofollow">So said the Tortoise to Achilles.</a>Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18188485747371986575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68951501450563943092016-01-04T14:18:08.865-06:002016-01-04T14:18:08.865-06:00"I do often wonder whether these media people...<i>"I do often wonder whether these media people really are aware they're lying or if they're still clueless."</i><br /><br />No you don't.Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87839250568839019352016-01-04T14:12:56.957-06:002016-01-04T14:12:56.957-06:00There is very little evidence that anyone associat...There is very little evidence that anyone associated with the Washington Post's "fact checking" operation has ever encountered an actual fact and recognized it as such. Don’t Buy Ithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02807124603605598051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67928236912688593482016-01-04T14:02:54.631-06:002016-01-04T14:02:54.631-06:00Honestly, the note taking the same-ish day seems p...Honestly, the note taking the same-ish day seems pretty damning to me.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53532728955747359622016-01-04T14:00:39.795-06:002016-01-04T14:00:39.795-06:00"Note that Clinton devotes one sentence to th..."Note that Clinton devotes one sentence to the “heavy assault” in Benghazi and then another sentence about the “rage and violence” over the “awful Internet video.” (The video resulted in 40 protests around the world.) She does not say they are connected, although we agree that listeners may have gotten that impression."<br /><br />-- Analysis like this is horrible. People who do horrible analysis should be fined. I'm not saying the author should be fined, but listeners may have gotten that impression.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44457436255342745972016-01-04T13:59:57.328-06:002016-01-04T13:59:57.328-06:00"(Not every family member agreed to be interv..."(Not every family member agreed to be interviewed. The Clinton campaign declined to comment.)"<br /><br />-- Seems pointless to fact check when you acknowledge you can't get all the facts.Matt Sablanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15885240752820005149noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23533215839221830382016-01-04T13:22:27.183-06:002016-01-04T13:22:27.183-06:00Make your own judgment
I judge anyone who believe...<i>Make your own judgment</i><br /><br />I judge anyone who believes the WaPo fact checker is a news oriented fact checking exercise as misinformed.rehajmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554135440560051175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68419116520310576452016-01-04T13:03:43.962-06:002016-01-04T13:03:43.962-06:00>>Covering Up For Clinton's is a huge Me...>>Covering Up For Clinton's is a huge Media Project that employs thousands of skilled propagandists and includes good benefits and a pension plan. <br /><br />Yeah, my local news station joined in on the "Let's rephrase what Hillary said about Trump being used in ISIS propaganda videos" strategy, and informed us that she said that Trump was "becoming" a tool for recruiting. <br /><br />I do often wonder whether these media people really are aware they're lying or if they're still clueless.Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05973774692416760687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40327561311230646522016-01-04T13:01:14.710-06:002016-01-04T13:01:14.710-06:00Wait, didn't Mrs. Clinton tweet that certain p...Wait, didn't Mrs. Clinton tweet that certain people have a "right to be believed?" Ah, just kidding, no one thought she was serious.HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89038574262249895062016-01-04T12:49:54.754-06:002016-01-04T12:49:54.754-06:00Note that Clinton devotes one sentence to the “hea...<i>Note that Clinton devotes one sentence to the “heavy assault” in Benghazi and then another sentence about the “rage and violence” over the “awful Internet video.” (The video resulted in 40 protests around the world.) <b>She does not say they are connected, although we agree that listeners may have gotten that impression.</b></i><br /><br />Given the context of her speech..<br /><br /><i><b>But what’s really in dispute is what was said behind closed doors,</b> in a private reception held in a comfortable room.</i><br /><br />Of course it is... <br /><br />Imagine the same set of facts arrayed against Rubio, for example... Oh why bother...tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.com