tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7870708440652592199..comments2024-03-29T03:51:13.883-05:00Comments on Althouse: How the government talks to us in Madison: "Please read this Order carefully. Violation of or failure to comply with this Order is a crime punishable by fine, imprisonment, or both."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger144125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77407556728755517672020-05-15T11:33:51.477-05:002020-05-15T11:33:51.477-05:00Rick said...
"Your business. The left learne...Rick said...<br /><br />"Your business. The left learned long ago it doesn't need to control the public. If they don't want you to have a Big Gulp it's far easier to ban businesses from selling it."<br /><br />This why the Civil Rights Act was actually the End Of Rights Act. It granted the government control of businesses. Jupiterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13008508862847561845noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58154528221521653322020-05-15T08:32:54.888-05:002020-05-15T08:32:54.888-05:00wbfjrr2 said...
Father Gregory, they want to shut ...wbfjrr2 said...<br />Father Gregory, they want to shut down your church, and your issue is you don’t think the order is well written?<br /><br />Christianity would not have survived with priests like you.<br /><br />I agree with you. I am a very poor example of a priest and a worse example of a Christian. And you're also right, Christianity would not have survived if it were dependent on priests like me. Thank God the Gospel doesn't depend on me. <br /><br />But neither does it depend on you or the freedoms or not that we have in America.<br /><br />Tertullian says that the blood of martyrs is the seed of the Church. If my parish and I suffer small indignations so be it. We will accept them and thank God to have been found worthy to suffer for his name.<br /><br />I don't know if they (whoever "they" are) want to shut down my church or not and neither do you. If you have evidence of this please, present it so we can evaluate it. <br /><br />And, in fact, I have heard back from the Dane County department of public health. They were most helpful and supportive of my re-opening my parish. You can find their recommendations here: https://publichealthmdc.com/coronavirus/faqs/current-order#religious<br /><br />If I may though, since to the best of my knowledge we've never met, you might think about not being so quick to judge a man and his faith by a comment on a blog. Please, at least speak with a person before you public condemn them.<br /><br />In Christ,<br /><br />+Fr Gregory<br /><br />Fr. Gregory Jensenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02674042923019379740noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22254069012322040232020-05-14T23:05:05.834-05:002020-05-14T23:05:05.834-05:00Father Gregory, they want to shut down your church...Father Gregory, they want to shut down your church, and your issue is you don’t think the order is well written? <br /><br />Christianity would not have survived with priests like you. wbfjrr2https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355876367990343878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3007625577661949672020-05-14T23:02:55.880-05:002020-05-14T23:02:55.880-05:00There’s new signage at the major entrances to Madi...There’s new signage at the major entrances to Madison. The signs read “Arbeit Macht Frei.” Must be a tribute to the original German immigrants who originally settled Dane County.Big Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15831645119853118904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62285702705897014642020-05-14T22:50:53.383-05:002020-05-14T22:50:53.383-05:00Jalani
First, it wasn't at all clear that Pal...Jalani<br /><br />First, it wasn't at all clear that Palm's order was illegal. On my reading, and on Hagedorn's reading (no liberal he, and the closest thing to a neutral on the court) it was clearly legal.<br /><br />Second, as framed, the court's opinion didn't actually give Evers (a) any time to respond (since the court denied the stay that the legislature itself had requested!) or (b) any way to timely respond, since the only option left open was a lengthy rulemaking proceeding that would have left critical high case counties with no measures of any kind in place.<br /><br />Third, that meant that the orders had to come from the urban counties--Brown, Dane, Milwaukee. So that's what the counties did, and thank god that they did. Can you imagine what would be happening in Brown County, where the state's highest rate of infections was just leveling off, if non social distance taverns had opened up immediately and without regulation, as the court's order contemplated?Stephenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00347013486956199318noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69042134106762883272020-05-14T22:27:50.557-05:002020-05-14T22:27:50.557-05:00What is Section 13.h of Emergency Order #28? It gr...<i>What is Section 13.h of Emergency Order #28? It groups "religious entities" with weddings and funerals among the "Essential Businesses and Operations" and permits gatherings of "fewer than 10 people." Under 2.b., the requirement is now "to use technology to avoid meeting in person, including virtual meetings, teleconference."</i><br /><br />Jewish communal prayer requires at least 10 men. Orthodox Jews don't use computers and phones on the Sabbath or holy days.autothreadshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12922732992155191413noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23083090879350674092020-05-14T22:02:19.855-05:002020-05-14T22:02:19.855-05:00It makes you question the sanity of paying the ext...It makes you question the sanity of paying the extreme property taxes you pay to live in your Madison home.<br />It just has to.320Busdriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00409874234953203213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60845241439164902872020-05-14T21:46:25.449-05:002020-05-14T21:46:25.449-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.320Busdriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00409874234953203213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73133928568237974632020-05-14T21:02:21.592-05:002020-05-14T21:02:21.592-05:00We should start having flash mob worship services ...We should start having flash mob worship services at the local Walmart. Nicolas Darkwaterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13464662541842831160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66307879537081438382020-05-14T20:59:38.931-05:002020-05-14T20:59:38.931-05:00Our colonial forefathers went to war over a tax on...Our colonial forefathers went to war over a tax on a breakfast beveridge. They would've been stacking bodies and watering the grass with Hessian blood by now. MAJMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02518049595313706775noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13118050501433975272020-05-14T20:04:04.687-05:002020-05-14T20:04:04.687-05:00I speak English and "Planner". With a Ma...I speak English and "Planner". With a Masters in City Planning, I spent much of my adult life as a guide through the urban planning jungle. I would tell clients there were two invisible signs at the entrance to all building and planning departments.<br />First:<br />"We are not out to get you. We treat everyone this way."<br />Second:<br />"Abandon hope all ye who enter."<br /><br />The problem with code enforcement is that you are guilty until proven innocent. Your home is not your castle to the code enforcer. Code enforcement can be a real profit center for cities. Some cities have set up their own kangaroo court code enforcement commissions, where they are judge, jury and executioner.<br /><br />Also, planning also includes such things as variances, and planned developments where you can violate the "standards" if approved. No one knows in advance what the answer will be. If you ask a planner what is an acceptable building setback, their answer will be "it depends". This is why they drive engineers crazy.<br /><br />So these Wuhan 19 regulations come under the same "health and safety" umbrella, where innocent until proven guilty is not the standard. This helps explain why they can seem so unfair, and can be abused, since the "opinion" of the "expert", is so important.PresbyPoethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15455313892845393736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71525625263045574932020-05-14T19:38:46.684-05:002020-05-14T19:38:46.684-05:00“I remember when it was popular among some conserv...“I remember when it was popular among some conservatives to say, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact."<br /><br />But that was a while ago.” Jefferson was a famous conservative??<br /><br />To quote Jefferson “ A strict observance of the written law is doubtless one of the high duties of a good citizen, but it is not the highest. The laws of necessity, of self-preservation, of saving our country when in danger, are of higher obligation. To lose our country by a scrupulous adherence to the written law, would be to lose the law itself, with life, liberty, property and all those who are enjoying them with us; thus absurdly sacrificing the ends to the means.” So the bamboozled citizen finds that his rights are a chimera. Like the French say, truth is what wise men say. Politicians will, under color of necessity, do anything against you, as long as they can get away with it.Josephbleauhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12407587570806062403noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80179958774575660902020-05-14T19:14:55.587-05:002020-05-14T19:14:55.587-05:00Mussolini (may have) said: "Everything inside...Mussolini (may have) said: "Everything inside the State. Nothing outside the State. Nothing against the State." Religion and family are outside the State, and therefore must be suppressed. Also private schools, private health care, etc. Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05957553963422292205noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80899149369600955222020-05-14T19:08:59.991-05:002020-05-14T19:08:59.991-05:00I remember when it was popular among some conserva...I remember when it was popular among some conservatives to say, "The Constitution is not a suicide pact."<br /><br />But that was a while ago.Rabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02612585516401001803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80540787137592711112020-05-14T19:03:36.373-05:002020-05-14T19:03:36.373-05:00DemonRAT politicians, oak tree, rope. Some assemb...DemonRAT politicians, oak tree, rope. Some assembly required John Cunninghamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07512292512993140028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57850522981602917942020-05-14T19:01:28.303-05:002020-05-14T19:01:28.303-05:00"And that's what you get when local gover..."And that's what you get when local government takes over."<br /><br />No, that's what you get when leftist government takes over.koalabearhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10647244011226152770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26039644395653461142020-05-14T18:48:15.134-05:002020-05-14T18:48:15.134-05:00Howard said...
So you people are afraid of some in...Howard said...<br />So you people are afraid of some inept lily-livered liberal Democrats and some silly words that they put on a piece of paper.<br /><br />Ha...I know right. Unless those silly words on a piece of paper start with the words..Wanted Dead or Alive in bold at the top.William50https://www.blogger.com/profile/07046235153345914172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2889803450929298842020-05-14T18:43:15.014-05:002020-05-14T18:43:15.014-05:00"Any advice would be helpful."
John Pa..."Any advice would be helpful."<br /><br /><br />John Paul II would say: Say the Mass. Make up your mind to undergo no less than what Mike Flynn is undergoing for a secular state. Make up your mind to lead, to be the shepherd. Assert religious rights. Only a clause appertaining to religion was changed - and that discrimination violates the separation of church and state so there's your secular argument for the secular courts. And Catholics know why you or someone else must say Mass in Madison so there's the religious argument. "And let all who have nothing, let them come to the Lord"<br /><br />I wonder what anyone would say about this speculation about what John Paul II would say?wildswanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11975129877750876072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16216614654929384382020-05-14T18:16:29.217-05:002020-05-14T18:16:29.217-05:00Haven't read all 100+ comments, but has anybod...Haven't read all 100+ comments, but has anybody mentioned the constitution, and I mean the Wisconsin Constitution? I'm off to take a look!Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11136939150085660545noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88516083152299396792020-05-14T17:47:12.054-05:002020-05-14T17:47:12.054-05:00What are we gonna do now, Calhoun?
Well Brother A...What are we gonna do now, Calhoun?<br /><br />Well Brother Andy, my advise to you is follow the old legal maxim of veritas omnia ipso facto. <br /><br />What do that mean?<br /><br />Lie like a fool. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15374663176536431430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54687823574816575432020-05-14T17:29:24.367-05:002020-05-14T17:29:24.367-05:00I can see a line of Christians and jews being forf...I can see a line of Christians and jews being forfeited but I can’t see Madison subjecting Muslims to that. Or even mentioning it to them.Strelnikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12520900676193170036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84262106112114796172020-05-14T17:23:16.259-05:002020-05-14T17:23:16.259-05:00"..small religious groups lost their right to..."..small religious groups lost their right to meet in person..."-nope. The right is still there, but it's currently being infringed. I hope this will be followed shortly by massive civil rights lawsuits against the city of Madison and the individuals responsible for the violation. As to the motivation, it's progressivism. "I am the State, thy God...and thou shalt put no other Gods before me." mikesixeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09160784390266058938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-92084496141933622712020-05-14T16:54:12.073-05:002020-05-14T16:54:12.073-05:00Althouse gets a hint of what it's like to be p...Althouse gets a hint of what it's like to be pissed on from a great height.tcrossehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13861315905142017219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24539928135009435482020-05-14T16:53:04.940-05:002020-05-14T16:53:04.940-05:00hstad said...
Classic example of 'Expert&...<i><br />hstad said...<br /><br /> Classic example of 'Expert' and 'Government' overreach! Out here in CA Governor Newsom dictated that anyone in a household who's become Covid-19 infected will be force out of that household. Nobody bothered to ask the 'Einstein' Governor whether there where resources to house so many people? Better yet,are the 'Experts' and 'Authorities' creating another 'Nursing Home' situation? Sometimes the cure is worst than the disease!<br /></i><br />There are a lot of empty beds in Cali's long term care homes. Gov Newsom can't figure out why. It's a gift!Lewis Wetzelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01200232293505119133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40439720162610759022020-05-14T16:49:56.884-05:002020-05-14T16:49:56.884-05:00"I wonder how many people in Dane county real..."I wonder how many people in Dane county realize this?'<br /><br />Per 7.04 (4), if the owner refuses to allow such entry "or the building is occupied" they must get a search warrant to enter. I don't think this is especially unusual in city ordinances.Rabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02612585516401001803noreply@blogger.com