tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7173355428280942021..comments2024-03-28T19:07:18.415-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Is there something especially morbid and sick about Wisconsin?"Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger70125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29108194220960509292011-06-29T17:50:58.323-05:002011-06-29T17:50:58.323-05:00Are you familiar with Ben Johnson's play, Volp...Are you familiar with Ben Johnson's play, Volpone?<br />Or A cat on a thin roofJose_Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09719969512996039279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48033122580859681612011-06-29T15:29:50.013-05:002011-06-29T15:29:50.013-05:00Well, Wisconsin did produce Ed Gein and Jeffrey Da...Well, Wisconsin did produce Ed Gein and Jeffrey Dahmer, sooooooo. . . . .Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05973774692416760687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55800257553134451352011-06-29T15:27:52.094-05:002011-06-29T15:27:52.094-05:00"Progress is relative, and the pursuit of any..."Progress is relative, and the pursuit of any version that is not toward freedom is toward slavery."<br /><br />Or results in ever greater numbers of laws "to protect the children", who aren't quite ready for total freedom.Pennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02094488084214911115noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51640402958905785722011-06-29T11:44:47.127-05:002011-06-29T11:44:47.127-05:00Every place has it's dark side. When I was you...Every place has it's dark side. When I was young, my family vacationed on Big Moose Lake in the Adirondacks. It's an idyllic spot, a lovely lake, secluded, rustic, morning mists and the cry of loons. No television, no telephones, nothing to do but swim, boat, fish, hike and an occasional game of tennis. We kids loved it at all our various ages. The same families would come back every year at the same time, so we all had good friends we couldn't wait to see every summer. All-in-all, a little slice of heaven.<br /><br />But Big Moose is also the lake where in 1906 Grace Brown, factory worker, single and pregnant, drowned. She had been last seen alive with her lover, Chester Gillette, nephew of the factory owner, who had taken her boating. Chester was charged, tried and convicted for her murder and executed by electrocution. If the story sounds familiar, it's probably because you've read Theodore Dreiser's <i>An American Tragedy</i> or seen the movie <i>A Place in the Sun</i>. Reported sightings of Grace's ghost continue even today (I think <i>Unsolved Mysteries</i> did a segment on Grace).<br /><br />Wisconsin is one of the few states I've never been to. I imagine I'll make it there one day, but I'll probably steer pretty clear of Madison because Madison is Crazy Town and I get my fill of crazy here at home.SukieTawdryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07219517365750894110noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25904742901118999362011-06-29T10:57:40.019-05:002011-06-29T10:57:40.019-05:00"Yeah, well I got the SHIT kicked out of me i..."Yeah, well I got the SHIT kicked out of me in Wisconsin, once! FORGET IT!!"Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33607064836711737482011-06-29T10:15:52.319-05:002011-06-29T10:15:52.319-05:00I was all set to say something about Evil Dead, bu...I was all set to say something about Evil Dead, but then I realized it was shot in Michigan.Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49427502521393018752011-06-29T09:47:32.791-05:002011-06-29T09:47:32.791-05:00I was raised in Butler, PA, 30 miles north of Pitt...<i>I was raised in Butler, PA, 30 miles north of Pittsburgh. I never really spent much time around Jeannette, but I would guess your experience was pretty much like mine was.</i><br /><br />Originally from Sharon, PA. It's a rust-belt shit hole.<br />But relatively safe and the rural areas are nice.Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72790641631376584242011-06-29T08:37:32.280-05:002011-06-29T08:37:32.280-05:00Doh! How could I have left Utah off my list of who...Doh! How could I have left Utah off my list of wholesome states? It belongs right at the top.erictrimmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03232618429644841580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48650714226904464072011-06-29T08:28:12.812-05:002011-06-29T08:28:12.812-05:00Paul Ciotti,
I was raised in Butler, PA, 30 miles...Paul Ciotti,<br /><br />I was raised in Butler, PA, 30 miles north of Pittsburgh. I never really spent much time around Jeannette, but I would guess your experience was pretty much like mine was. My childhood in rural PA was perfection in my opinion. Free, and rich in experience and space. I learned to enjoy life without the need for people and their constructs, which has supported my happiness as I went through life in the city or not. I've lived in the big city now for most of my life but still get recharged outside of it. Wisconsin would work for that, I assume.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8681140884800756772011-06-29T08:27:21.922-05:002011-06-29T08:27:21.922-05:00What could be more wholesome than Mike Nifong pand...What could be more wholesome than Mike Nifong pandering to a majority black populace in Durham by attempting to lynch white men? Yep, North Carolina is a swell place.<br /><br />Keep in mind the state did not punish Crystal Gail Mangum for lying, so she was free to commit more crimes, right up until she was charged with murdering her boyfriend. But let's face it - if he was schtoinking that piece of disease-ridden ass he had a death wish to begin with.The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354536924604187137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49126597090597353602011-06-29T08:23:04.985-05:002011-06-29T08:23:04.985-05:00ET1492, my wife will not set foot in Alton, Il. I...ET1492, my wife will not set foot in Alton, Il. It creeps her out too much.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90004048155310199622011-06-29T08:20:34.184-05:002011-06-29T08:20:34.184-05:00Progress is relative,
and the pursuit of any ver...Progress is relative, <br />and the pursuit of any version that is not toward freedom is toward slavery.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23641745677551637252011-06-29T08:20:16.148-05:002011-06-29T08:20:16.148-05:00Here's my interpretation. We tend to think of ...<i>Here's my interpretation. We tend to think of Wisconsin as a notably healthy, wholesome place. (Notice the characters in movies who say they are from Wisconsin: Annie Hall...</i><br /><br />Didn't she boil lobsters alive in that movie? <br /><br />And having any sort of physical relationship with Woody Allen is creepy.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82043248032644348542011-06-29T08:17:49.718-05:002011-06-29T08:17:49.718-05:00"ET1492, have you been to either of the Carol..."ET1492, have you been to either of the Carolinas? The Bible Belt is thoroughly perforated."<br /><br />I haven't been to most of the states on that list, at least not since I was a baby. I was just blowing smoke. <br /><br />Every state is a mix of wholesome and wicked, but California, Louisiana, Massachusetts, Illinois and Rhode Island are especially wicked. And don't even get me started on Delaware...erictrimmerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03232618429644841580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31846337622970382062011-06-29T07:54:22.148-05:002011-06-29T07:54:22.148-05:00It is the essence of conservatism to recognize the...<i>It is the essence of conservatism to recognize the dark side, that we are each of us capable of both good and evil.<br /><br />Progressives believe this can be changed, that one can be molded into an Ideal person. The dark side is non-Progressives.</i><br /><br />Good and evil, light and dark, we all carry these and in this, we're all the same. People on both the left and right know this or can know this – we’re on opposites on a lot of issues and we both know it. No one side’s got a corner on that market. The personal principle that I carry, and some will recognize this, is "progress, not perfection." The reality is that you can aim at perfection (and in the political realm, the different sides have differing ideas on what to aim and how to go about it), at the Ideal, but you’ll never hit it.kjbehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02205930548533839170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7821404701190039962011-06-29T07:53:57.163-05:002011-06-29T07:53:57.163-05:00The answer, based on what I have read here, is yes...The answer, based on what I have read here, is yes. Morbid, sick and populated with giant puppets. <br /><br />WV: schet - the populace is full of schet.The Dudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05354536924604187137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52434049387413150942011-06-29T07:47:52.162-05:002011-06-29T07:47:52.162-05:00From Twitter, Nathan Wurtzel:
"How did those...From Twitter, Nathan Wurtzel: <br />"How did those Wisconsin union members get all the way to Greece?"Lincolntfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04620264736967842427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79421941969926175812011-06-29T07:45:16.157-05:002011-06-29T07:45:16.157-05:00Titus said...
I'm really here for the past co...<i>Titus said... <br />I'm really here for the past couple of months to get my ailing father's money.<br /> <br />6/28/11 10:55 PM</i><br /><br /><br />Ouch. So you stopped giving platitudes about taking care of him and spending time with him? I hope he doesn't see your post, he might decide to give his money to some home for aging Packers fans.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5315525655232560352011-06-29T07:42:28.598-05:002011-06-29T07:42:28.598-05:00Grisly stuff.
What is it with Wisconsin and seria...<a href="http://drvitelli.typepad.com/providentia/2010/07/murder-at-taliesin.html" rel="nofollow">Grisly stuff.</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.topix.com/forum/city/crandon-wi/TCC823MI1I0ER1MNC" rel="nofollow">What is it with Wisconsin and serial killers?</a><br /><br />Then again, Washington had Ted Bundy. Is it a states that start with "W" thing? <br /><br />And West Virgina has that whole Mothman thing. <br /><br />And lefties would tell us Wyoming has Dick Cheney.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5768207490552946282011-06-29T07:33:26.608-05:002011-06-29T07:33:26.608-05:00Have lived in Wi my entire life. Yes, we are whit...Have lived in Wi my entire life. Yes, we are white and we are fat - what the heck, what do you expect when we never get any blasted SUN!!<br />But it's also beautiful, especially "up North". Most people are blue collar. Union membership, mill jobs have been the norm. The wretched economy, events in Madison, have turned things upside down, and the people don't like it. There is a definite animosity between sides that i dont see going away for a very long time, if ever.marylynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00680408400770687806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48725367522142238702011-06-29T07:17:57.169-05:002011-06-29T07:17:57.169-05:00Oh, and if you want to read a book that picks on a...Oh, and if you want to read a book that picks on a place, try <i>Wyoming Stories</i> (which includes the short story Brokeback Moutain was based on). How bleak is it you ask? The Brokeback Moutain story is the cheerful one in the book.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-435226655739505302011-06-29T07:13:30.117-05:002011-06-29T07:13:30.117-05:00Did you not read American Gods?
And the House o...Did you not read <i>American Gods</i>? <br /><br />And the House on the Rock is in the same town as where the servant killed and burned Frank Lloyd Wright's family and guests alive. Coincidence? There are no coincidences.Fred4Preshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01574159710712259945noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20340229789058057682011-06-29T07:11:21.324-05:002011-06-29T07:11:21.324-05:00Echo that, Curious George.
As Minnesota seems det...Echo that, Curious George.<br /><br />As Minnesota seems determined to spend itself into a financial meltdown, we are looking at pulling up stakes.<br /><br /> Milwaukee has become a favorite for the reasons you cite, and if fiscal sanity takes hold, we might be able to afford it.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57904538931767623072011-06-29T07:07:40.814-05:002011-06-29T07:07:40.814-05:00Grew up in Chicago but had a place up nort' si...Grew up in Chicago but had a place up nort' since high school. Have lived in WI now for almost 20 years, shuffling back and forth from Madison and Milwaukee. <br /><br />Madison has always thought of itself (wrongly) that it was cultured, refined and erudite. It's not. It's easy to get that way when you have an insulated society...especially a liberal one. It leads to a level of snobbery that's both pathetic and funny. It's like an aging actor that doesn't realize it's irrelevance. <br /><br />Nope, I'll take Milwaukee. It's like Chicago Lite. Better restaurants than Madison. Smarter than Madison. More things to do than Madison. And even the liberals have some level of common sense. Hey are for the most part blue collar. <br /><br />And when I tire of the city, I just go to the jewel of WI, the north woods.Curious Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14440726941494085334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85956789661216843062011-06-29T06:54:32.174-05:002011-06-29T06:54:32.174-05:00"to show the dark side to Wisconsin is to say...<i>"to show the dark side to Wisconsin is to say something about the dark side of humanity.</i>"<br /><br />It is the essence of conservatism to recognize the dark side, that we are each of us capable of both good and evil.<br /><br />Progressives believe this can be changed, that one can be molded into an Ideal person. The dark side is non-Progressives.<br /><br />The culture war is more visible there because it's 50:50, and the <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Private-Truths-Public-Lies-Falsification/dp/0674707583/ref=tmm_pap_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1271464089&sr=8-2" rel="nofollow">preference falsification</a> has been shed.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.com