tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7113146284933178481..comments2024-03-29T08:05:18.316-05:00Comments on Althouse: "There can't be one rule for Democrats and another for Republicans. So the question 'What about her emails?' is an appropriate one."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger158125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61968152699493773932022-08-17T12:19:39.935-05:002022-08-17T12:19:39.935-05:00"As to whether Hilary’s email server was a na..."As to whether Hilary’s email server was a national security risk..."<br /><br />It is illegal for a Cabinet member to have a private, unsecured communication system on which any (i.e., n>=1) government documents exist. So the existence of a single government document on Hillary's "private" server was illegal. There is no sliding scale on that illegality - a single document is evidence and if guilt is proven the owner of the system in question is eligible for prison.<br /><br />And it is also illegal for a Cabinet member to use a non-official email address on correspondence dealing with official government busines. Hillary extensively used her "private" email address in this manner. Included in some of the emails which were identified and recovered from Hillary were ones with the President of the United States' "private" email address, again mentioning or discussing official business.<br /><br />It wasn't just Hillary that was being protected. It was also POTUS.TheOne Who Is Not Obeyedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04384618252744334533noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7259074672170068292022-08-17T11:26:37.019-05:002022-08-17T11:26:37.019-05:00"If you follow the trajectory, more and more ..."If you follow the trajectory, more and more people will side with the class protected from prosecution and IRS audits. Self-preservation and survival is a strong motivator. Human nature tells us they will gladly turn in neighbors, family, and friends who are on the heretic side of the law. They will see it as a civic duty."<br />Inga and the gang will look stunning in KGB blue.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12888846538007407452022-08-17T10:40:38.029-05:002022-08-17T10:40:38.029-05:00As to whether Hilary’s email server was a national...As to whether Hilary’s email server was a national security risk, a bunch of government emails and other classified stuff ended up on WikiLeaks, but not hers. If Trump had shredded the classified material he took to his hotel resort club, no search warrant would have been necessary.Left Bank of the Charleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04494310302328322830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49884188991725675992022-08-17T09:27:54.992-05:002022-08-17T09:27:54.992-05:00Left Wank of the Charles wrote: Also, Hillary avo...Left Wank of the Charles wrote: <i> Also, Hillary avoided a subpoena and search by turning over the email server and other documents at the FBI’s request.</i><br /><br />If by 'turning over the email server and other documents at the FBI's request,' you meant "deleting emails under subpoena by the tens of thousands, using BleachBit to wipe down the servers to thwart the investigation, and smashing electronic devices with hammers, you might have a point. <br /><br />But somehow you left all that out. <br /><br />You intellectually dishonest hack. Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46481844969321464682022-08-17T09:07:13.824-05:002022-08-17T09:07:13.824-05:00Marty,
Only three of the emails (none were sent b...Marty,<br /><br />Only three of the emails (none were sent by HRC) had documents that were marked as classified (i.e. marked like the contents of the many boxes that DJT folks stole and hid after the return of this stuff was requested).<br /><br />Other emails chains were retroactively determined to have info that was classified. This included things such as mentioning the media reporting on classified top secret projects. Such an email chain would be considered to contain top secret info, even if it was discussing what WaPo/NYT/etc wrote or said.<br /><br />The fact is that HRC was not using her private server to spread classified documents. And the investigation of her was absurdly too harsh such that this harshness toward HRC was the reason that DJT fired Comey. That’s the true record of the conclusion of the HRC email investigation: DJT fired Comey for being too aggressive re investigating HRC. Facts.Sprezzaturahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14859397164637821056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20553863128111946452022-08-17T08:55:31.030-05:002022-08-17T08:55:31.030-05:00Left Bank - "Hillary avoided a subpoena and s...Left Bank - "Hillary avoided a subpoena and search by turning over the email server and other documents at the FBI’s request." <br /><br />After having bleach-bitted the server. And we have no idea if beforehand, she made a back up of the entire cache. Furthermore, the server was a national security hazard from the start, so there was a continuing dereliction of duty on her part over several years, whereas documents stored in a building protected by the Secret Service are not such a security risk. But you know that. <br />Nicholas https://www.blogger.com/profile/12650323006548246161noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27466685468175395272022-08-17T04:55:11.319-05:002022-08-17T04:55:11.319-05:00Don't hear too many child molesters arguing th... Don't hear too many child molesters arguing that it isn't fair they are locked up because look what happened to Epstein.<br /><br />8/16/22, 9:40 AM<br /><br />Now do BILL CLINTON. WHY is he still free, when the Madam is in prison. We all know old Billy Goat had his way with a few underaged girls when hanging with his besties. But no FBI raid for HIM!!!wendybarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04344162303631329747noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16970749649783152032022-08-16T22:09:38.029-05:002022-08-16T22:09:38.029-05:00Readering said...
When the government found out Tr... Readering said...<br />When the government found out Trump had taken documents to MAL they had informal talks to get them all back.<br />&&&&&&&&&&&<br /><br />Government employees in the General Services Administration packed up those documents in the White House and shipped them to MAL.<br /><br />So the government knew from the start. It didn't "find out".effinayrighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16195111141879312800noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70830225981413237812022-08-16T21:54:18.609-05:002022-08-16T21:54:18.609-05:00I wonder if "The Great Trump Raid" may h...I wonder if "The Great Trump Raid" may have gotten out of DOJ's control. At first they were pretty cagey about what they were looking for and what they found, but the Public (the real target of the exercise) didn't seem particularly interested (except in Melania's scanties). So they started leaking scarier-sounding stuff, including about nuclear weapons. Public still not interested. Eventually they're going to have to come up with something people will give a sh*t about, or just let the whole thing die on the expiration of the public attention span. Maybe DOJ has something they could sell to a DC jury, but going to court is always risky. I'm glad I'm not Garland. The Godfatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10575359417766667457noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19392117696277671742022-08-16T21:47:52.830-05:002022-08-16T21:47:52.830-05:00Why don't you tell the friends and family of t...Why don't you tell the friends and family of the four, dead Americans it was all a hoax.<br /><br />POS.<br /><br />Ok but I think they saw it happen in real time too.<br />Hey friends and family of our brave fallen Benghazi soldiers; craven, opportunistic political hacks turned your sacrifice into political Kabuki theater.<br /><br />Feel better?TeaBagHaghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16082557306733081362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84649249283591888552022-08-16T21:28:46.300-05:002022-08-16T21:28:46.300-05:00There were several reasons why Comey was fired. O...There were several reasons why Comey was fired. One reason was that he botched the HRC investigation. Part of that had to do with his going public when he did. He was not fired got being too hard on Clinton or for being mean to her.<br /><br />And yes, we never found out what the deleted emails said.Rollohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00075414992883639981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53561016454517875102022-08-16T21:14:06.284-05:002022-08-16T21:14:06.284-05:00Rusty: "They honestly think you're as stu...Rusty: "They honestly think you're as stupid as they are."<br /><br />Indeed.Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-103158146676182002022-08-16T21:11:19.752-05:002022-08-16T21:11:19.752-05:00HRC was found to have received three emails that h...<i>HRC was found to have received three emails that had a “C”, though she sent none of these three, and some were later determined to not deserve the “C.”. </i><br /><br />What horseshit ! The FBI never even examined Hillary's illegal server. Messages were copied from secret servers and then transferred to Hillary's server. That's a felony unless you are HC.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4112893739585139002022-08-16T21:06:04.235-05:002022-08-16T21:06:04.235-05:00Spezzatura-
I have no idea where you heard that t...Spezzatura-<br /><br />I have no idea where you heard that there were only three classified e-mails. Here is what Comey said in his briefing:<br /><br />"From the group of 30,000 e-mails returned to the State Department, 110 e-mails in 52 e-mail chains have been determined by the owning agency to contain classified information at the time they were sent or received. Eight of those chains contained information that was Top Secret at the time they were sent; 36 chains contained Secret information at the time; and eight contained Confidential information, which is the lowest level of classification. Separate from those, about 2,000 additional e-mails were “up-classified” to make them Confidential; the information in those had not been classified at the time the e-mails were sent."<br /><br />One hundred ten e-mails on her unsecure server contained classified information, and about 2,000 more e-mails were later classified. That's certainly more than three.<br /><br />We don't know how much actual classified material was included; a single e-mail could have multiple classified attachments in it yet only count as one event in Comey's description.MartyHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14388558618344941481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66181789114586181242022-08-16T20:49:43.202-05:002022-08-16T20:49:43.202-05:00Beasts of England said...
That was a claim fro...Beasts of England said...<br /><i> That was a claim from one of the lefties, not me! The raid was pure bullshit.<br /></i><br />thanx Beasts! i was wondering if you'd been hijacked?gilbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949243924046064880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84577499501716179292022-08-16T20:47:50.238-05:002022-08-16T20:47:50.238-05:00Hillary Clinton deleted emails that were under sub...<i>Hillary Clinton deleted emails that were under subpoena and being investigated for dissemination of classified material. <br /></i><br />THAT is the true beauty of it all. <br />Hilary! was under subpoena.. Hilary! deleted evidence.. Hilary! said: Look hardly ANY proof of felony!<br /><br />AFTER she wiped the server (like? With a cloth?) there was "hardly" Any proof left. If you let gilbar wipe HIS computers, there will be NO proof of any nefariousisms*.. NONE<br />But, you know what? Destruction of evidence is a CRIME <br /><br />nefariousisms* <br />to the Best of Your knowledge there is no evidence of nefariousisms because gilbar does NOT condone nefariousismsgilbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949243924046064880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88540631393442329872022-08-16T20:33:23.586-05:002022-08-16T20:33:23.586-05:00"Jim5301 and gadfly are also perfect examples..."Jim5301 and gadfly are also perfect examples of lefties utilizing those tactics."<br />They honestly think you're as stupid as they are.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23382297282386192022-08-16T20:32:59.261-05:002022-08-16T20:32:59.261-05:00Hillary's IT guy asked redditt for help alteri...Hillary's IT guy asked redditt for help altering e-mails<br /><a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/09/20/hillary-clintons-it-guy-asked-reddit-for-help-altering-emails-a-twitter-sleuth-claims/" rel="nofollow"></a><br /><br /><br />https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2016/09/20/hillary-clintons-it-guy-asked-reddit-for-help-altering-emails-a-twitter-sleuth-claims/FullMoonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07541560904252155570noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11947487821786771622022-08-16T20:31:54.289-05:002022-08-16T20:31:54.289-05:00Look - the DOJ is playing with fire and I’m not su...Look - the DOJ is playing with fire and I’m not sure they’re not playing with it intentionally. 75m people voted for Trump in round two. Almost all of them think the election was fishy. I voted for Jo Jorgensen and I think the election was pishy. This raid on Trump’s home is an escalation of insane proportions. And, like it or not, trump represents something - he represents the an abandoned working class. The deplorables and bitter clingers to quote Hillary and Obama. And these folks are well armed, angry, and they’re living the pain of economic and social injustice. That seems like a great situation to pour gasoline on and yet that’s exactly what Garland did. If this is ends without bloodshed in a mass scale, I will be shocked. And maybe that’s what Democrats want. Tomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18307552957596862754noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39328602497027314342022-08-16T19:57:23.279-05:002022-08-16T19:57:23.279-05:00What is pissing me off is that the discussion is w...What is pissing me off is that the discussion is whether in some universe Donald Trump could be considered to have possibly committed a public documents violation, when the real discussion ought to be why haven't the public employees responsible for this outrageously unconstitutional "raid" and the higher-ups who OK'd it been fired, and, after an appropriate hearing, imprisoned. boatbuilderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03686275893211176366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62053431327660645162022-08-16T19:24:52.737-05:002022-08-16T19:24:52.737-05:00After endless investigations (including a glimpse ...After endless investigations (including a glimpse into back channel stuff to Abedin via Weiner computer, after HRC’s lawyers sorted personal from not-personal on HRCs server), HRC was found to have received three emails that had a “C”, though she sent none of these three, and some were later determined to not deserve the “C.”. On her server, other than these three email chains, she had no other emails that were declared to contain classified info when these emails were created.<br /><br />And it was Comey that was fired by DJT because Comey was being nuts with the overboard investigation of HRC. That is the conclusion. The conclusion of DJT as POTUS re HRC re emails.<br /><br />People here have brains that can’t/won’t exist in reality. <br /><br />Carry on.Sprezzaturahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14859397164637821056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17572389682792073892022-08-16T19:18:44.210-05:002022-08-16T19:18:44.210-05:00Blogger Sprezzatura said...
HRC emails were f... Blogger Sprezzatura said...<br /><br /> <b> HRC emails were found to contain three emails that were labeled with a “C” at the time the emails were sent. She sent none of them, she a receiver on email chains. And two these were later determined to not deserve the “C”<br /><br /> There were also less than two dozen emails that were retroactively determined to contain top secret info, though folks question if emails necessarily deserved that classification cause this set of emails includes emails that talk about a WaPo (or other media) article where the WaPo (or other media) article references a top secret program.</b><br /><br />This is absolute garbage and a total lie.<br /><br />Hillary Clinton deleted emails that were under subpoena and being investigated for dissemination of classified material. <br /><br />There are service people in jail right now for this. They generally deleted less than 10 files.<br /><br />Hillary Clinton deleted 33000. <br /><br />Everyone that has dealt with NIPR and other classified networks knows what Hillary did and knows that they would be in jail forever if they did what she did.<br /><br />You are just another leftist telling lies trying to justify your fascist bullshit. <br /><br />You are all just pathetic shitheads.Achilleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06972282652640331056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-433872769037977742022-08-16T19:14:53.794-05:002022-08-16T19:14:53.794-05:00‘There were also less than two dozen emails that w...<i>‘There were also less than two dozen emails that were retroactively determined to contain top secret info.’</i><br /><br />Retroactively top secret? Holy shit, dude!! The phrase you’re looking for is ‘top secret, period’.Beasts of Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11037690027365480123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17044153927049978652022-08-16T19:14:49.231-05:002022-08-16T19:14:49.231-05:00gadfly said...
As I understand the Sandy Berger ...gadfly said... <br /><br /><b>As I understand the Sandy Berger theft, the documents were not classified and he paid the price for his theft in court.</b><br /><br />That statement just makes you a stupid liar and just another regime supporting piece of shit.<br /><br />Eyes only presidential daily briefing notes and a terrorism after action report and they are classified the minute they are created.<br /><br />It was NOFORN.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2005/apr/4/20050404-084700-5791r/" rel="nofollow">"On Friday Mr. Berger pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges for stealing five copies of one of the nation’s most highly classified terrorism documents. The document, an “after-action” memo on the millennium 2000 terror plot authored by terrorism expert Richard Clarke, is so highly classified that any person removing it from secure rooms must do so in a case handcuffed to his or her wrist. Mr. Berger stuffed the five copies in his coat jacket and secreted them out of the archives. He proceeded to cut three of them to pieces with scissors at his downtown offices. Archive officials observed Mr. Berger stealing the documents and reported it to their superiors. "</a><br /><br />You people just cannot be honest about any of this. <br /><br />You are terrible people trying to bullshit your way into justifying political persecution of your enemies.Achilleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06972282652640331056noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63088417201782902492022-08-16T19:09:17.135-05:002022-08-16T19:09:17.135-05:00‘I'll bite Beast! please explain; in detail (h...<i>‘I'll bite Beast! please explain; in detail (hell, explain in General) how a 'search warrant' gives the FBI the right to 'recover' passports. I'll wait’</i><br /><br />That was a claim from one of the lefties, not me! The raid was pure bullshit.Beasts of Englandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11037690027365480123noreply@blogger.com