tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7112926608473038852..comments2024-03-29T07:24:06.029-05:00Comments on Althouse: "You don't have money to fund the war or children but you're going to spend it to blow up innocent people..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger157125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77277943717962461492007-10-22T14:07:00.000-05:002007-10-22T14:07:00.000-05:00Dust Bunny Queen said..." I'm self employed and...Dust Bunny Queen said..."<BR/> I'm self employed and have a major medical/catastrophic coverage only with very high deductibles. I pay 100% of my coverage. It still costs me over 450 a month....My husband is also self employed and has NO insurance becuase of pre existing conditions. He's flying without a net. Our only hope is that nothing serious happens to him and we can make it until Medicare age at which time he is eligible for SOME coverage."<BR/>And you're against national health care.<BR/><BR/>You're even dumber than I thought.<BR/><BR/>*Oh, and if your husband suffers some kind of horrible health problem...say hello to the emergency room, then the nice people at the bankruptcy courts:<BR/><BR/> Half of Bankruptcy Due to Medical Bills -- U.S. Study<BR/>by Maggie Fox<BR/> <BR/><BR/>WASHINGTON - Half of all U.S. bankruptcies are caused by soaring medical bills and most people sent into debt by illness are middle-class workers with health insurance, researchers said on Wednesday.<BR/><BR/>The study, published in the journal Health Affairs, estimated that medical bankruptcies affect about 2 million Americans every year, if both debtors and their dependents, including about 700,000 children, are counted.<BR/><BR/>"Our study is frightening. Unless you're Bill Gates you're just one serious illness away from bankruptcy," said Dr. David Himmelstein, an associate professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School who led the study. <BR/><BR/>DUH.<BR/><BR/> So, your assumption is wrong as are most of your other assumptions.<BR/><BR/> 9:15 AMLuckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78469523473979951162007-10-22T13:58:00.000-05:002007-10-22T13:58:00.000-05:00Just look at the comments from Sloan, Fen, Lawgive...Just look at the comments from Sloan, Fen, Lawgiver, FormerLaw Student and Pogo.<BR/><BR/>Can anybody tell them apart? Each and every one says damn near the same thing: Bush is great. Every thing is going great. We love George.<BR/><BR/>Like I've said a hundred times: This is nothing more than a gigantic BUSH SUCKFEST.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76108072256091054542007-10-22T09:15:00.000-05:002007-10-22T09:15:00.000-05:00Dust Bunny Queen,You have full health coverage, do...<I>Dust Bunny Queen,<BR/>You have full health coverage, don't you?<BR/><BR/>And I bet somebody else is paying for it, too</I> Asked LOS<BR/><BR/>I'm self employed and have a major medical/catastrophic coverage only with <B>very high</B> deductibles. I pay 100% of my coverage. It still costs me over 450 a month. It irks me to see the poor union workers and government employees complaining because they have to pay a share of costs and their deductibles have been raised to $20 per office visit. Give me a break.<BR/><BR/>My husband is also self employed and has NO insurance becuase of pre existing conditions. He's flying without a net. Our only hope is that nothing serious happens to him and we can make it until Medicare age at which time he is eligible for SOME coverage.<BR/><BR/>So, your assumption is wrong as are most of your other assumptions.Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341429444562280127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65074632739280141582007-10-22T09:05:00.000-05:002007-10-22T09:05:00.000-05:00Cute, but nonsensical.Cute, but nonsensical.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40064309089461567912007-10-22T08:42:00.000-05:002007-10-22T08:42:00.000-05:00I love the efficiencies of our health care system....<I>I love the efficiencies of our health care system. <BR/><BR/>You are making the common error of confusing our current health care gumbo with a free market.</I><BR/><BR/>I love my family dog.<BR/><BR/>- You are making the common error of confusing your family dog with a minotaur. But where your family dog is small and cuddly, the minotaur is big and fierce. So to love your family dog is in part, to love a minotaur.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28837466731712014842007-10-21T22:03:00.000-05:002007-10-21T22:03:00.000-05:00I love the efficiencies of our health care system....<I>I love the efficiencies of our health care system. </I><BR/><BR/>You are making the common error of confusing our current health care gumbo with a free market.<BR/><BR/>But it is not. Research by single payer health care proponents Steffie Woolhandler and David Himmelstein shows that over 60% of our current health care is financed, controlled, or fully run by the US government. So to complain about inefficiencies therein must cast at least 60% blame on the US government itself. <BR/><BR/>But what makes people think that destroying the remaining minority 40% will fix all that? Economic illiteracy is my bet.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77804033995523003622007-10-21T21:37:00.000-05:002007-10-21T21:37:00.000-05:00In Lucky's world we would all have half the health...<I>In Lucky's world we would all have half the health care at twice the price</I><BR/><BR/>I love the efficiencies of our health care system. The mother of a friend of mine is one of two women who work full time filling out insurance forms for a solo family practitioner. The RN girlfriend of another friend of mine now works for an insurance company. After putting up with doctor's crap for ten years, she loves stamping <B>DENIED</B> when they try to get treatment plans approved. <BR/><BR/>Thank god health care decisions are not left up to a government bureaucracy, that's all I can say.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86980505101878169222007-10-21T21:10:00.000-05:002007-10-21T21:10:00.000-05:00How did Schips get into this conversation? In Luc...How did Schips get into this conversation? <BR/><BR/>In Lucky's world we would all have half the health care at twice the price... but at least there would be equality. And, after some time passes we won't even remember how good it was (how many fingers Winston.....)<BR/><BR/>Today at the supermarket I saw a woman buying groceries with foodstamps while holding on to her Starbucks grande mocha (Im sure she thinks we owe her for her suffering)..... In Lucky's world she will be slopping down a 10 count mcnugget while driving to have her free bypass (after a nine month wait of course...)<BR/><BR/>Oh, conservatives are so heartless!Sloanasaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787488302564761993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65789144656812199162007-10-21T21:02:00.000-05:002007-10-21T21:02:00.000-05:00Now Reagan was a true American. No one can forget ...<EM>Now Reagan was a true American. No one can forget when his administration sold missiles to Ayatollah Khomeini's Iran -- </EM><BR/><BR/>You see, I was right about you. With you guys its all about world socialist revolution. Nothing else matters. Long Live Che!Sloanasaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787488302564761993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34719014569859301782007-10-21T20:52:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:52:00.000-05:00Reagan when he was trying to rebuild our military ...<I>Reagan when he was trying to rebuild our military </I><BR/><BR/>Now Reagan was a true American. No one can forget when his administration sold missiles to Ayatollah Khomeini's Iran -- oddly enough another country W. is planning to invade with his completely worn out ground troops. But Reagan was far smarter than W. RR invaded a Caribbean island resort, not Iraq. Reagan's war on Grenada was all over a month later.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35125353291632310692007-10-21T20:45:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:45:00.000-05:00Four years later, we are further from leaving Iraq...<EM>Four years later, we are further from leaving Iraq than we were then. That wasn't Bush's only brush with unreality.</EM><BR/><BR/>Cry me a river. We spent 10 years occupying the south after Appomattox and 40 years fighting the Reds and their sympathizers (like yourself) after Berlin.Sloanasaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787488302564761993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12338292496296801082007-10-21T20:41:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:41:00.000-05:00Are you saying Reagan and Bush Sr. should have dis...<EM>Are you saying Reagan and Bush Sr. should have discarded any such diplomacy...in favor of doing what the nitwit in the oval office right now decided was best?</EM><BR/><BR/>Give me a break. Your lot was pissing on Reagan when he was trying to rebuild our military so we could talk to them. I still don't understand why you guys have so much love for people like Mao, Kim Il, Stalin, Castro, Che... They turned out to be exactly what we said they would be... yet you still cover for them????? Why is that? During the Reagan years you were saying stuff like "we should disarm first, then the Soviets will really know we are serious!" I kid you not.<BR/><BR/>The reason why your insane lefty position has been so prominant recently is because in prior generations your ilk was beaten into submission on the playground. With all of today's political correctness, some of you now make it to adulthood. Good for you... bad for America.Sloanasaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787488302564761993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20416774772228684282007-10-21T20:37:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:37:00.000-05:00Everyone here knows that what you really fear is v...<I>Everyone here knows that what you really fear is victory </I><BR/><BR/>??? We had victory, remember? May of 2003. W. put on a sailor suit and landed on an aircraft carrier.<BR/><I>Moments after the landing, the president, wearing a green flight suit and holding a white helmet, got off the plane, saluted those on the flight deck and shook hands with them. Above him, the tower was adorned with a big sign that read, "Mission Accomplished." </I><BR/><BR/>Four years later, we are further from leaving Iraq than we were then. That wasn't Bush's only brush with unreality.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73682740647745915962007-10-21T20:33:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:33:00.000-05:00But Bush needs Kanonenfutter. The war in Iraq need...<EM>But Bush needs Kanonenfutter. The war in Iraq needs bodies. You can't make parents wholly responsible for the raising of their kids and then expect them to cheerfully turn them over to Bush to have them killed.</EM><BR/><BR/>Funny these are the same things the Southern sympathizers were saying about Lincoln and Grant during the civil war. I assume you would have been saying it then too. Why send northern kids off to free slaves? What a waste.<BR/><BR/>Your ilk pops up in every war. You don't give a rats ass about soldiers. Everyone here knows that what you really fear is victory - a victory that might be used as political capital to crush your dreams of a Red America.Sloanasaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787488302564761993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71650725943708089782007-10-21T20:32:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:32:00.000-05:00Plame has been covering for herself ever since (an...<I> Plame has been covering for herself ever since (and getting rich in the process).</I><BR/><BR/>That reminds me: revealing the true identity of a CIA agent in time of war -- sounds like treason to me. Why aren't true patriots calling for Robert Novak to be hanged by the neck until he is dead, dead, dead?former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9305208992325475782007-10-21T20:30:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:30:00.000-05:00Well, I read books, newspapers, and various period...<EM>Well, I read books, newspapers, and various periodicals. <BR/>I also spend quite a bit of time discussing politics with a good friend who works for Homeland Security in Washing, D.C.</EM><BR/><BR/>Give me a break lucky. Reading the Nation and Mother Jones does not count as being informed. You are nothing more than an uninformed anti-war/socialist. I am surprised you bother to read anything written before 1968.<BR/><BR/>Your ilk was trashing Reagan in the 1980s using the same logic. You were wrong then. You are wrong now. You will be wrong in the future.Sloanasaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787488302564761993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38894760379972467622007-10-21T20:25:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:25:00.000-05:00CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes...<EM>CBS News has confirmed, in advance of a 60 Minutes interview with outed CIA agent Valerie Plame to be run this Sunday, that Plame "was involved in operations to prevent Iran from building nuclear weapons."</EM><BR/><BR/>This is funny stuff.<BR/><BR/>Plame used her position to get her unemployed husband the job to go to Niger, where he did nothing but get drunk with friends. Plame has been covering for herself ever since (and getting rich in the process).Sloanasaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787488302564761993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26961494308242010382007-10-21T20:20:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:20:00.000-05:00"examples of any good things Bush has done for Ame...<I>"examples of any good things Bush has done for America "</I><BR/><BR/>Well, I for one am grateful that the lunatics are much easier to spot now. <BR/><BR/>Before, such hard work! You'd have suspicions and bits of their true madness would be exposed, but it was difficult to be certain. So long it took!<BR/><BR/>But then Bush came and BDS sprouted, instantly raising the nuthousers to the surface, like fishing with a hand grenade. Now I just read the bumper stickers and listen to the radio and know within a few sentences (if that) when I am listening to another graduate of the laughing academy.<BR/><BR/>Just last night I was listening to the radio, and there was Jeff Daniels the actor on the <I>Lake Superior Big Top Chautauqua</I>, playing his quirky funny folk music. Ha ha, such funny stories! But then, within seconds, he reveals his rubber-roominess, saying that he <I>"drove to Mount Rushmore so I could see what a <B>real</B> President looked like"</I>. Aha! He shows himself! Another benighted screwball, unable to recall that he is in stage to sing and tell stories and that I do not give a damn what he thinks about Iraq. Too bad he's nuts, cuz he sang rather well and told funny stories.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, thank you GWB for making my life so much easier in re: the unhinged.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39370690787567583362007-10-21T20:01:00.000-05:002007-10-21T20:01:00.000-05:00I tire of you tonight Lucy.I will insult you again...I tire of you tonight Lucy.<BR/><BR/>I will insult you again later on another thread. Good night.DaLawGiverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07527161835297956435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24940466455383921732007-10-21T19:58:00.000-05:002007-10-21T19:58:00.000-05:00That doesn't mean the innocent on the other side s...<I>That doesn't mean the innocent on the other side should not be attacked, unfortunately suffer in the process, and those innocent brought to obey the will of the war's victor.</I><BR/><BR/>So you had no problem with Rep. Fortney 'Pete' Stark's statement. Fine. Why not just say so?former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31669809467732927902007-10-21T19:49:00.000-05:002007-10-21T19:49:00.000-05:00Bush should ensure the health care of today's kids...<I><B>Bush should ensure the health care of today's kids,</B> <BR/><BR/>Gee, and I thought that responsibility belonged to parents.<BR/><BR/>If the parents can't do it, then we can - okay, should - assist them.<BR/><BR/>But if the parents can do it, we shouldn't.</I><BR/><BR/>But Bush needs Kanonenfutter. The war in Iraq needs bodies. You can't make parents wholly responsible for the raising of their kids and then expect them to cheerfully turn them over to Bush to have them killed. Kids are Bush's soldiers-in-training. Like any soldier going through training, the U.S. should provide their medical care.<BR/><BR/>Remember, George W. Bush was too precious to his parents for them to risk his life in Vietnam. W. served his country in Texas, and never missed a tee-time. That way he was able to provide G.H.W. and Barbara with grandchildren, and provide them a son who became President.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73799920183646138432007-10-21T19:39:00.000-05:002007-10-21T19:39:00.000-05:00Those who would suggest that the War on Terror, es...<I>Those who would suggest that the War on Terror, esp. in Iraq is open ended would seem to ignore the significant progress made there during this calender year, and in particular, since Gen. Petreaus took over there.</I><BR/><BR/>Whatever you're smoking, please pass it over here. No objective observer can believe that the surge has triggered a finite countdown for leaving Iraq.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26518621665439592682007-10-21T19:31:00.000-05:002007-10-21T19:31:00.000-05:00rsb: Dig some graves at Golden Gate National Cemet...rsb: <I>Dig some graves at Golden Gate National Cemetery once. I have. In one of my myriad of occupations. This war is a travesty. Go on the front. Join the French Foreign Legion you cowards. You nauseate me. I hate you stupid hawks.</I><BR/><BR/>Go pound sand. If you REALLY felt this war was a "travesty", you would risk your life to oppose it. You play the chickenhawk card, but you're too much of a hypocrite coward to defend your "principles".<BR/><BR/>If you really think this war is "illegal" and "immoral", stage a hunger strike on the steps of Congress before calling war supporters chickenhawks. Fricken weasel.<BR/><BR/><BR/><I>You all suck and yes I am a veteran.</I><BR/><BR/>Yeah, you and Scott Beauchamp are "vets"... Shitbirds more likely.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33660577112900497892007-10-21T19:12:00.000-05:002007-10-21T19:12:00.000-05:00Well duh Lucky,I asked you at 1:04 PM;Instead of w...Well duh Lucky,<BR/><BR/>I asked you at 1:04 PM;<BR/><BR/>Instead of whining about Bush tell me what the Democratic Congress has done to stop the war, or remove Bush. If you can't muster up a relevant and intelligent response to my counterpoint, why not just admit it?<BR/><BR/>You never answered my question, why should I answer yours? <BR/><BR/>You aren't very bright are you?<BR/><BR/>Check your meds.<BR/><BR/>Where do you idiots come up with this insanity?<BR/><BR/>What a hoot...<BR/><BR/>Blow me.DaLawGiverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07527161835297956435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65211767441057491092007-10-21T16:46:00.000-05:002007-10-21T16:46:00.000-05:00LawGiver,I ask you to give us examples of any good...LawGiver,<BR/>I ask you to give us examples of any good things Bush has done for America and all you can do is repeat your standard right wing bullshit...as usual.<BR/><BR/>Why not take the time to provide a defense, or at least a few examples of where YOU think the man has succeeded.<BR/><BR/>I realize it's getting tougher and tougher every day to defend the Republicans, but give it a shot, asshole.<BR/><BR/>*And please...no more of Sloan's silly retorts that Bush has not allowed a terrorist attack on American soil...because Clinton accomplished that, too...for an even longer period of time.<BR/><BR/>C'mon, chickenshit...talk or walk.Luckyoldsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11489310035114843752noreply@blogger.com