tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post7038005716356691016..comments2024-03-28T17:30:34.605-05:00Comments on Althouse: "I believe Althouse wants to protect her blog from reprisal by the woke crowd, but I think the main reason for her prohibition of the-word-that-shall-not-be-uttered is that she is disgusted by it, and disgusted by people that use it."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger146125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79934037770724764272021-02-10T08:48:52.032-06:002021-02-10T08:48:52.032-06:00White people signalling their own virtue to black ...White people signalling their own virtue to black people via cancelling people for stupid shit like this does the black community enormous harm.<br /><br />We do not admire the victim. We do not admire the aggrieved. We pity them.<br /><br />We admire heroes and warriors who overcome their oppressors and succeed in spite of them -- or because of them. The path forward is through the obstacle (Marcus Aurelius). <br /><br />I have never heard a black person say, "Thank you virtuous white SJW for taking up our cause so that we don't have to be heroes and warriors".<br /><br />Do you see the black community's deprivation and SJW vanity?SensibleCitizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11695545343832081068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65502838327474774322021-02-10T08:39:52.553-06:002021-02-10T08:39:52.553-06:00A marriage counselor told my ex-wife and I that ha...A marriage counselor told my ex-wife and I that hate-filled marriages are salvageable, but when either party feels disgust for their partner -- it's over.<br /><br />At least in my case she was right.SensibleCitizenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11695545343832081068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89835552135061128702021-02-10T06:05:01.136-06:002021-02-10T06:05:01.136-06:00You guys are full of shit:
You could say nigger a...You guys are full of shit:<br /><br />You could say nigger all day long but it's still your POLICIES that suck.The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37196649355060861442021-02-10T00:26:20.880-06:002021-02-10T00:26:20.880-06:00Amadeus/Roughcoat.
"Goin East on Ashland&quo...Amadeus/Roughcoat.<br /><br />"Goin East on Ashland"<br /><br />Will need to look into that one. I *know* you can't go east on Ashland: I grew up on Marshfield, one block west of Ashland in the 50s and 60s. Don't think the west edge of Bridgeport is anywhere near Ashland; more like Halsted, maybe. <br /><br />Further south, Ashland became the dividing line between the black and white neighborhoods in the mid-60s and into the early 70s. In, I think, the summer of 1967, MLK led open-housing marches to Marquette Park starting at 71st and Ashland, two blocks from where I lived. <br /><br />I didn't hear this story until many years later, after the old man died, but he initially swore that he wasn't going to move. Changed his mind after my mother was assaulted by some young thugs on the way to the Jewel a block away. <br /><br />For an earlier, innocent view of the South Side, there's "Do Black Patent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up" from the far Southeast Side. Also, not South-Side specific, "Late Night Catechism," author more or less my contemporary. And "City Life, Coming of Age in Chicago," whose author was in my youngest sister's grammar school class at St. Justin's at a time when I had departed (as it turned out, permanently) to Boston.<br /><br />--gpmgpmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12070901832220457927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74586803995299713432021-02-09T22:35:02.036-06:002021-02-09T22:35:02.036-06:00Hey Skipper@11:14AM/
Were you an F-111 Driver? We...Hey Skipper@11:14AM/<br /><br />Were you an F-111 Driver? Were you ever stationed in the UK at RAF Upper Hayford near Oxford? If so, when? I was an F-4D driver @ RAF Woodbridge, 78th TFS 81st TFW near Ipswitch, East Anglia, '68-'71. (the other two squadrons, the 91st&92 were next door at the twin-base complex @ RAF Bentwaters where Wing HQ was--we were our own private Airforce-sort of the Oakland Raiders w. wings :) )virgil xenophonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14577165785872035948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63834618709639070242021-02-09T22:33:55.766-06:002021-02-09T22:33:55.766-06:00What if we taught people, that you should NEVER us...<i>What if we taught people, that you should NEVER use derogatory term for a Different Ethnicity</i><br /><br />Sure, but you still have the Eminem problem. Some people spend so much time with those of another ethnicity that they come to think that they are part of that group and entitled to use the in group words. Lurker21https://www.blogger.com/profile/05692740653467688670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80254144565870528992021-02-09T22:19:52.608-06:002021-02-09T22:19:52.608-06:00mockturtle@10:49AM
FWIW one can still get a "...mockturtle@10:49AM<br /><br />FWIW one can <i>still</i> get a "wop salad" at numerous restaurants in New Orleans. (most are Italian too..)virgil xenophonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14577165785872035948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29798814912125301042021-02-09T20:19:07.442-06:002021-02-09T20:19:07.442-06:00According to this handy graphic, "moron"...<i>According to this handy graphic, "moron" was actually a complement of sorts.</i><br /><br />I am now considering "High grade imbecile" for my tombstone.RMchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06094584962671073162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59716494814646430212021-02-09T18:45:21.911-06:002021-02-09T18:45:21.911-06:00Then there's the bit where Dave Chappelle play...Then there's the bit where Dave Chappelle plays Clayton Bigsby, the blind white supremacist who doesn't know he's black, and he yells a lot of racist things to this group of white guys playing loud music.<br /><br />And one of the white guys says, "Did he just call me a *******? Yeah!!" and he high-fives his buddies.Markhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07575021285669012791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88289786013116544922021-02-09T18:33:19.648-06:002021-02-09T18:33:19.648-06:00Because if anyone could go east on Ashland, it wou...Because if anyone could go east on Ashland, it would be the South Side Irish . . . :) Roughcoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04921425298526540034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17867885991728299362021-02-09T18:31:18.165-06:002021-02-09T18:31:18.165-06:00Amadeus:
See, for info on "Goin' East As...Amadeus:<br /><br />See, for info on "Goin' East Ashalnd," the following:<br /><br />https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/goin-east-on-ashland/Content?oid=883961<br /><br />Sorry for all the typos in my preceding post. Blame it on typing and posting in haste.Roughcoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04921425298526540034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46442624034068235102021-02-09T18:26:31.933-06:002021-02-09T18:26:31.933-06:00Amadeus:
Hah! "Goin' East Ashland" ...Amadeus:<br /><br />Hah! "Goin' East Ashland" (not "Headed") is a one-man play written and performed by Chicago comedian Mike Houlihan ("Hoolie" to his friends), who invented the term. The play takes a fond and comical look at what it was like for Hoolie to grow up in a South Side Irish neighborhood in the 50s and 60s. It's hilarious and poignant, and perfectly captures the South Side Chicago Irish milieu in the rare olde times. I saw the play, and briefly met Houlihan (shaking his hand and congratulating him), at the community theater in Beverly, the perfect venue for it. He does revivals of the play on an intermittent basis. Don't miss it if and when he does it again! You'll split a gut laughing and maybe shed nostalgic tear or two, an appropriately Irish response.<br /><br />I don't know what Houlihan has been up to lately. You've inspired me to find out. He's really a Chicago treasure, that one. If a revival of "Goin' East" is in the works, I'll definitely see it again.Roughcoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04921425298526540034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33126337204519277262021-02-09T18:12:34.483-06:002021-02-09T18:12:34.483-06:00They are first and second generation immigrants an...<i>They are first and second generation immigrants and have an indomitable work ethic.</i><br /><br />True, but I would nevertheless advise against wandering about Little Village and Humboldt Park after nightfall.<br /><br />A Cuban friend in Humboldt Park is presently recovering from a gunshot wound to the stomach, after inadvertently being caught in a shootout between CPD and a Mexican gangbanger. Her husband, last year, was shot in the hand while walking down the sidewalk by gangbangers in a car, conducting a "shooting initiation" for one of their new members. <br /><br />According to the late and much-lamented blog, Second City Cop, and its sister blog, "Hey Jackass," blacks in Chicago account for c. 70-75 percent of both fatal and non-fatal shootings in the city; Latinos, c. 20 percent. Gun violence committed by whites is virtually nonexistent.<br /><br />The operators of Second City Cop shut down their cite because they were getting intense heat from the "bigs," e.g. Lori Lightfoot, the police chief, and such. <br /><br />They called Chicago's Northwest Side the "Homeland."Roughcoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04921425298526540034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66748498980675094542021-02-09T18:04:46.395-06:002021-02-09T18:04:46.395-06:00I'm Not Sure,
Re: OR and ID, sure; but the po...I'm Not Sure,<br /><br />Re: OR and ID, sure; but the population of Boise is less than 1/3 that of Portland, and the other two are yet smaller. That's why I stipulated <i>major</i> city. Of course, Salem is even smaller than Boise. But, then, most capital cities aren't anywhere near the largest in their state. I think Boston is the big, glaring exception. Michelle Dulak Thomsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18041391162535875301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65485095867319654062021-02-09T18:01:20.119-06:002021-02-09T18:01:20.119-06:00Roughcoat--do you know the expression "headed...Roughcoat--do you know the expression "headed east on Ashland?" <br /><br />For those not from around by here, Ashland runs north and south and is the western boundary of Bridgeport, a traditional Irish neighborhood (which is to say that lots of city workers live there). Amadeus 48 https://www.blogger.com/profile/15907486643353591432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25795607159276883162021-02-09T17:56:01.575-06:002021-02-09T17:56:01.575-06:00I grew up in white ethnic neighborhoods next to bl...I grew up in white ethnic neighborhoods next to black neighborhoods and I went to high school that was fully integrated and located in a black inner city neighborhood with all that dangerous one might expect in such a place. I had, in my growing up, from childhood through high school, a disproportionately number of violent encounters with blacks, all initiated by blacks. It was quite a challenge, during football season, after practice, to wait in the darkness at bus stops or to walk home through their neighborhood. You never knew when you might be called upon to defend yourself. The experience didn't kill me and maybe made me stronger in some respects; but it also makes me angry and bitter to think about, even to this day. Nobody likes being attacked. It's a wonder I did not become a racist. <br /><br />What I did become, however, is someone who views the whole race thing in America with a cold and jaundiced eye. I did learn to take people -- all people, black, white, brown, whatever -- as I find them. I can be friendly, and friends, with anyone of any race, creed, color, or ethnicity. But I can be mighty hard-hearted toward the bad elements. I don't cut people like that any kind of slack. And I don't deny their existence either.<br /><br />All that said, I don't use the n-word, for reasons aforesaid.Roughcoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04921425298526540034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90264923024021717032021-02-09T17:49:22.413-06:002021-02-09T17:49:22.413-06:00Gospace--My observation is that on the South and W...Gospace--My observation is that on the South and West Sides in Chicago, there are lots of people who want to lead decent, hard working lives. But the gangs, whose business is much more about drug turf than anything else, run wild. The randomness of the violence and death leads to lots of existential questions--why bother?<br /><br />There are many theories about those neighborhoods and the breakdown of families and communities. The zeitgeist is marching resolutely in the wrong direction with the abandonment and defunding of police preventative action in those neighborhoods. The few things that hold those communities together--the schools and the churches--are closed from the pandemic. Those that can leave are moving out--unexpectedly. They move to the suburbs or to the South. The grandparents of those folks moved here from the Delta for the opportunity to lead better lives. <br /><br />Opportunity left town. <br /><br />Many Hispanic families have moved to the Southwest side in the last fifty years. They have lots of problems, too, including gangs, but they are blessed by two things:<br />1. They missed the Great Society programs and have less family breakdown.<br />2. They are first and second generation immigrants and have an indomitable work ethic.Amadeus 48 https://www.blogger.com/profile/15907486643353591432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60456327760617238952021-02-09T17:35:32.361-06:002021-02-09T17:35:32.361-06:00Amadeus:
Favorite hangout in Mt. Greenwood used t...Amadeus:<br /><br />Favorite hangout in Mt. Greenwood used to be, and hopefully will be again, Hinky Dink's on 111th. Haven't been there in awhile, for obvious reasons. Had plans to stop by after the South Side St. Patrick's Day Parade, but ... the parade was canceled. Thank you, Communist China.<br /><br />Of course doing the "Death March" of Irish pubs on Western Avenue (west side of the street, of course) is still a worthy and brave undertaking -- for those with the stones to attempt it. <br /><br />I haven't the words to express the awfulness that is Michael Madigan. Except, like Kurtz, to say: The horror. The horror.Roughcoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04921425298526540034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19234753685369148632021-02-09T17:33:22.867-06:002021-02-09T17:33:22.867-06:00"N-words of the antebellum south were much ha..."N-words of the antebellum south were much happier than they are now days"<br /><br />The Antebellum South was our first great experiment in socialism, other than the military.<br /><br />Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18435723712717430671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15814879550551448072021-02-09T17:26:40.218-06:002021-02-09T17:26:40.218-06:00"conservatives are more disgust sensitive tha...<i> "conservatives are more disgust sensitive than liberals as a result of their concern with purity-related norms."</i><br /><br />All of these social science findings are questionable. Social scientists often come up with the conclusion first and then set up the survey to prove it. This idea of disgust sensitivity and purity related norms goes back to ideas about virginity and homosexuality. Given the changes in society, I don't think the generalization that conservatives are more concerned with purity and sensitive to disgust really hold up as well as it once may have. In these last few years disgust seems to be more of a liberal characteristic.<br /><br />Martha Nussbaum used to score easy rhetorical points against conservatives by attributing their attitudes about homosexuality to disgust. I wonder if it wasn't a cheap rhetorical trick: find some rightwinger who can't talk about homosexuality without associating it with anal sex and then associate that person with anal sex, and you stand above that sort of thing while tacitly engaging in it. <br /><br />Today, I think we can understand disgust as a more complicated phenomenon and one not so easily pigeonholed ideologically. It's something humans feel. Arguably you shouldn't let it rule your thinking, but it's not something you can escape feeling sometimes or attribute only to people who disagree with you.Lurker21https://www.blogger.com/profile/05692740653467688670noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52934657507051660132021-02-09T17:18:08.671-06:002021-02-09T17:18:08.671-06:00Take a look next door in Idaho.
Idaho was part of...<i>Take a look next door in Idaho.</i><br /><br />Idaho was part of Oregon before it became a state and was subject to the same prohibitions against black immigration.Earnest Prolehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07784404737843553158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83767909352258409022021-02-09T16:57:20.830-06:002021-02-09T16:57:20.830-06:00"Even Portland, which is the only part of the...<i>"Even Portland, which is the only part of the state that has something approximating a Black "critical mass," is 6% Black, so the non-Blackest major city in the country. Everywhere else, it's less."</i><br /><br />Take a look next door in Idaho. Here are the three most populous cities:<br /><br />Boise- 1.5% African American<br />Meridian- 0.8% African American<br />Nampa- 0.7% African American<br /><br />These three cities contain 1/4 of the population of the state. The statewide total is 0.7%.I'm Not Surehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00667545402086122894noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39449225500426795162021-02-09T16:48:48.110-06:002021-02-09T16:48:48.110-06:00here's a Fun Thought!
What if we taught people...here's a Fun Thought!<br />What if we taught people, that you should NEVER use derogatory term for a Different Ethnicity <br />If you're not a jew, don't use nasty terms for jews<br />If you're not a latino, don't use nasty terms for latinos <br />If you're not a black, don't use nasty terms for blacks<br /><br />Of course; THIS would be EXACTLY THE SAME, as stating that ALL Lives Matter<br />In other words... It's THE MOST RACIST THING YOU COULD EVER SAY!gilbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05949243924046064880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7216386730196164972021-02-09T16:41:17.721-06:002021-02-09T16:41:17.721-06:00Here is my deleted post from yesterday, WITHOUT th...Here is my deleted post from yesterday, WITHOUT the prohibited word:<br />On the firing of a NYTimes writer due to his use of a "racial slur" in conversation years ago, not in calling someone that to be derogatory, but in reference to questioning if someone else had used the term. You know, the dreaded "N-word". My comments: To me, the controversy is silly and it's sad that that writer was fired for his mentioning of the word. It's JUST A WORD. As a racial slur, I had been taught to not use it since I was five and I repeated a "Eenie meenie miney mo" chant I had heard. I was told that it was a hateful word that was used against Negroes. Then, in 5th grade, on a day the one black boy in our class was absent, the teacher had the class read and discuss the poem, "Incident" by Countee Cullen: Incident<br />Once riding in old Baltimore,<br />Heart-filled, head-filled with glee;<br />I saw a Baltimorean<br />Keep looking straight at me.<br />Now I was eight and very small,<br />And he was no whit bigger,<br />And so I smiled, but he poked out<br />His tongue, and called me, "N-----."<br />I saw the whole of Baltimore<br />From May until December;<br />Of all the things that happened there<br />That's all that I remember.<br />The poem had quite the effect on me: I did not want to use words that hurt people.<br />That all being said, now that it is seemingly okay for blacks to use the word in general conversation or lyric, whether or not the ""-er" is changed to "-a", I find the banning of the word and its use to be reprehensible. Including the use of "the N-word". It's just become a handy tool of the Left and some black culture "leaders" to cry "racism" and cancel you. I still refrain from using the word as a derogatory but, as I did in the poem above, have no issue with its use in the proper context.<br />It was never "racism" when I was young. It was called "prejudice" and we all have it, to one degree or another. We can rise above it, or sink into its clutches. IMO, very few people are true "racists". They do exist. But the word "racist" has lost a lot of meaning but its flagrant use to tar even the utterance of forbidden words.<br /><br />Marcus Bresslerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04324813856647190727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16566979648452089442021-02-09T15:51:02.134-06:002021-02-09T15:51:02.134-06:00What about "bitches and hos"?
Narr
St...What about "bitches and hos"? <br /><br />Narr<br />Still kosher?Narrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14043247682000851606noreply@blogger.com