tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post683530734672883586..comments2024-03-28T03:53:32.251-05:00Comments on Althouse: It's news — in the NYT — that a lot of black people these days think they'll be better off in the SouthAnn Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger163125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72209508648893926242011-09-19T19:03:18.317-05:002011-09-19T19:03:18.317-05:00kmg, thanks for clarifying that blacks never chang...kmg, thanks for clarifying that blacks never change, they're all alike, they never learn, they can't be trusted, they aren't very smart, they are all bigots and robots who take their orders from Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson. <br /><br />I had thought they were just as smart as anyone else until you made that plain.Sweetbriarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08491250958082358988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69518941473036491542011-09-19T12:21:50.221-05:002011-09-19T12:21:50.221-05:00Sweetbriar,
You dodged the question.
Blacks vote...Sweetbriar,<br /><br />You dodged the question.<br /><br />Blacks vote Democrat by 90-95%, period.<br /><br />Anyone who thinks that Obama will get less than 90% of the black vote, is clueless.<br /><br />Red staters are quick to worry that white Californians or NYers will move their states towards the blue threshold, but even white Californians and NYers do not lean Democratic to the lopsided extreme that blacks do. <br /><br />Blacks moving somewhere turns that place blue, period.kmghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15715282368070916910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49816866965897318742011-09-19T08:40:49.757-05:002011-09-19T08:40:49.757-05:00"Do you think they will stop voting Democrat ..."Do you think they will stop voting Democrat when they move South?"<br /><br />The blacks moving south are working/middle class. They fully intend to keep working and advance their children up the social ladder, rather than trying to get on the first tier via entitlements. Of the blacks I work with, none speak of Obama and the Democrats, and no whites are as tactless to bring it up. Everyone knows that Obama brought a tremendous amount of pride to the black community, as do all the middle/upper class educated professional blacks in the news now, versus the gangsta rap/political charity cases that used to dominate the news. <br /><br />Pride is wonderful, but every person with a job and bills to pay feels the economy tanking, to the point where one has to say, "Lordy!" every time you go to the store. I'm glad we had a black president, I just wish it hadn't been Obama. I think the black community feels that way, too.<br /><br />Everyone will vote their pocketbooks. Black is no longer a monolith.<br /><br />....and you yankees stay up there!.. bunch of obnoxious heathens......Sweetbriarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08491250958082358988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89825892801447573332011-09-19T05:33:24.879-05:002011-09-19T05:33:24.879-05:00Southern states, unlike big city northern states, ...Southern states, unlike big city northern states, (NY, IL) provide for lawful personal defense outside the home. That is to say, one can go forth armed in the South. Don't try that in NYC.<br /><br />http://goodhillpress.blogspot.com/Liston Matthewshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15906318217110410176noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14585978504313744032011-09-19T00:20:50.050-05:002011-09-19T00:20:50.050-05:00Blacks moving South will turn Southern States blue...Blacks moving South will turn Southern States blue..<br /><br />What with 90% of blacks voting Democrat and all....kmghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15715282368070916910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65731185053266526602011-09-19T00:19:12.192-05:002011-09-19T00:19:12.192-05:00Never mind that blacks, who vote 95% Democrat, vot...Never mind that blacks, who vote 95% Democrat, voted in the politicians that made the mess.<br /><br />Do you think they will stop voting Democrat when they move South?<br /><br />A lot of the comments here miss this elephant in the room. A lot of 'blue' places are blue largely due to the black vote.kmghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15715282368070916910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88031273590001365232011-09-18T16:28:51.441-05:002011-09-18T16:28:51.441-05:00Have lived in the South for much of my life. Spent...Have lived in the South for much of my life. Spent some time in the Air Force, away in college in Oklahoma, and traveled to a couple of northern towns. it's not perfect, but we have a system down here worked out most everyone's liking. most blacks are friendly, smile and are good citizens. Same as whites here. The only problems we have is when northerners come down and act...'rude'. WinksBuckleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559817426858100201noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90191003692326244252011-06-24T08:20:29.448-05:002011-06-24T08:20:29.448-05:00Thing is, plenty of Southerners and mountain peopl...Thing is, plenty of Southerners and mountain people also moved north to find work, at the same time as the "Great Migration". So did a lot of European immigrants move to the Northern US. Why? Because there were tons of new factories and tons of new jobs!<br /><br />Of course, it obviously would have more effect on the smaller populations of blacks and mountain people, than on the vast majority of Southerners or Europeans. But still, it's an odd way to tell the story. Like pretending that one revolution in 1848 had no connection to any other revolution, or that the great potato blight famine only happened in Ireland, instead of just being at its worst in Ireland; or that the potato famines didn't encourage the revolutions.Bansheehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12594214770417497135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87555122181139649242011-06-23T15:07:29.759-05:002011-06-23T15:07:29.759-05:00"You would throw rocks to break the windows o..."You would throw rocks to break the windows of a bus full of elementary school children? You would yell racial epithets at them? You would bruise them?"<br /><br />Well Rev would only do that it was Sarah Palin's bus. Just sayn'Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12544448826372032622011-06-23T13:13:25.097-05:002011-06-23T13:13:25.097-05:00If you really want to get under a northerner's...If you really want to get under a northerner's skin, particularly one from New England, you just need to tell them this:<br /><br /><b>MIT is known as the Georgia Tech of the North</b>I R A Darth Aggiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03580296517949279444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66892471921621229882011-06-23T11:28:11.753-05:002011-06-23T11:28:11.753-05:00The Boston riots were over busing, not integration...<i> The Boston riots were over busing, not integration. If a judge order my kids to be bused into a slum in the name of "integration" I would riot, too.</i><br /><br />You would throw rocks to break the windows of a bus full of elementary school children? You would yell racial epithets at them? You would bruise them?<br /><br />I doubt it.Freeman Hunthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202310075717963694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5656397036044041532011-06-23T09:41:29.183-05:002011-06-23T09:41:29.183-05:00I'd like to recommend a really good book, &quo...I'd like to recommend a really good book, "The Warmth of Other Suns: The Epic Story of America's Great Migration," by Isabel Wilkerson.<br /><br />Well researched and well-written, she follows the lives of three black families who moved from the Jim Crow South to NYC, Chicago, and LA.<br /><br />Gives a lot of historical information on the subject, and casts a bright light on the reasons there is now a "reverse migration." Well worth reading.Bedbughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06552315271080278789noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36917046297815451082011-06-23T09:19:53.642-05:002011-06-23T09:19:53.642-05:00Jum: "let's remember that Atlanta has fa...Jum: "let's remember that Atlanta has far more in common with NYC than the South, whether with regard to culture, attitude or vibe." <br /><br />The Atlanta magazine might make you think so but if you lived here and have lived in other cities in the South and worked frequently in NY you would know that your idea is commonly held and preposterous.Michaelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08258681007386089907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70140899399876605872011-06-23T07:11:57.507-05:002011-06-23T07:11:57.507-05:00Rialby, when she married me and moved to Montgomer...Rialby, when she married me and moved to Montgomery, AL, my New York born Jewish wife was told by several of her friends and relatives that the Klan would be waiting for her at the airport.<br /><br />They were not joking.<br /><br />As she put it, there is no one so smug and parochial as a New York City liberal.<br /><br />Of course, when we moved to TX, she sent them all a picture of herself shooting an Evile Black Scary Rifle. You probably heard the heads exploding throughout the city. 8-)SDNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03294241092298713048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17027499478013694792011-06-23T06:24:29.617-05:002011-06-23T06:24:29.617-05:00PLEASE, lets not tout the South too much. We live...PLEASE, lets not tout the South too much. We live very well here and the last thing we need is a bunch of Northern "parasites" coming here bring and then trying to institute the same policies they ran away from up North.Dennishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14962996070458991675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83343748689395814512011-06-23T05:41:25.980-05:002011-06-23T05:41:25.980-05:00Many of these comments remind me of something Gov....Many of these comments remind me of something Gov.George Wallace of Alabama said long ago, about the South hating the Negro as a race, but loved them as an individual, while the North loved them as a race, but hated them as an individual. He also said if the Watts riots had happened in Selma they would still be showing it on the news.Cajun Peghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15967278309707646124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11808787556362170902011-06-23T02:24:19.890-05:002011-06-23T02:24:19.890-05:00Before we get all excited about folks moving to At...Before we get all excited about folks moving to Atlanta and "the South", let's remember that Atlanta has <i>far</i> more in common with NYC than the South, whether with regard to culture, attitude or vibe. <br /><br />Anyone moving from the North to Atlanta has merely changed neighborhoods, not regions of the country.Jumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08010872199201417401noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51645091167106001032011-06-23T01:38:09.333-05:002011-06-23T01:38:09.333-05:00People love to bring up the racism surrounding the...<i>People love to bring up the racism surrounding the integration of Central High in Little Rock. Boston, however, is usually overlooked.</i><br /><br />Apples and oranges, really. The Boston riots were over busing, not integration. If a judge order my kids to be bused into a slum in the name of "integration" I would riot, too.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90624641324115712872011-06-23T01:32:53.192-05:002011-06-23T01:32:53.192-05:00Black people didn't leave the South to "e...<i>Black people didn't leave the South to "escape prejudice," but to escape violence.</i><br /><br />It was both.<br /><br />The lack of economic opportunity was a much bigger problem than the violence.Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59104036545280722562011-06-23T00:22:24.394-05:002011-06-23T00:22:24.394-05:00"but what struck me about race relations in t..."but what struck me about race relations in the south is that blacks and whites interact far more than they do in northern cities."<br /><br />I lived in Chicagi and Wisconsin fr the first part of my life, and have lived in Texas the whole second half, and the difference in startling-- blakcs, whites and hispanics interact on a very equal, very integrated level. I never really realized how white Wisconsin was, or how segregated Chicago was until I moved to Texas.CableGuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01181550891793800613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44430364761001139682011-06-22T22:19:22.093-05:002011-06-22T22:19:22.093-05:00I thought seriously about moving to Mississippi a ...I thought seriously about moving to Mississippi a few years ago. I've never lived in the south but I think I would like it. The area I was interested in was around Mobile and it was hit hard by the hurricane in 2005. I need to go back and look again. Like Tucson, there are lots of military retirees.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10330459176797654347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30195386827385209552011-06-22T21:53:06.574-05:002011-06-22T21:53:06.574-05:00Ya'll know the difference between a Yankee and...Ya'll know the difference between a Yankee and and dam' Yankee, don't 'cha?<br /><br />A yankee comes to visit.Shootisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09131046721347804658noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20368536297365755202011-06-22T21:44:19.419-05:002011-06-22T21:44:19.419-05:00Down here in the South, we think that Yankees are ...Down here in the South, we think that Yankees are like hemorrhoids.<br /><br />They are fine if they come down and go back up, but if they come down and stay, they are a real pain in the ass.twphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07081922808610653074noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51658968366595829582011-06-22T21:43:59.159-05:002011-06-22T21:43:59.159-05:00The move to the northeast occurred when Repubs had...The move to the northeast occurred when Repubs had some political power (which got civil rights legislation through a Dem dominated congress that would have rejected it) in the northeast and none in the south, where the Dems instituted and supported Jim Crow (with help from northeast progressives, such as Wilson).<br /><br />The move back to the south is occurring when Repubs have no political power in the northeast and considerable political power in the South, not unlike what they had during reconstruction, before the Dems took over and instituted JIm Crow.Andy Freemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15102824539405027612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26182399097340678702011-06-22T21:40:05.624-05:002011-06-22T21:40:05.624-05:00Black people didn't leave the South to "e...Black people didn't leave the South to "escape prejudice," but to escape <i>violence.</i> When Blacks went North, it never occurred to anyone that the North was without prejudice just without violence. Now, the violence has moved North. For people with children, it doesn't matter who is committing the violence or why. It only matters whether you can afford to live in a safe neighborhood or have to move to someplace where the safe neighborhoods are affordable. That is what the South now offers to people of all races: someplace where people of moderate income with children can feel safe.GlobSnarkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05507306999919464786noreply@blogger.com