tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post6806555954436643076..comments2024-03-28T21:25:19.470-05:00Comments on Althouse: "The nation's first federally funded bicycle 'freeway.'"Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger45125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58342500555198863922011-06-16T11:07:33.764-05:002011-06-16T11:07:33.764-05:00Yes, Minneapolis' federally-funded bike ways D...Yes, Minneapolis' federally-funded bike ways DO make you safe from those evil cars, but they do make you prey to the obama voters in certain adjacent neighborhoods:<br /><br />http://www.city-data.com/forum/minnesota/515854-greenway-bike-path-robberies.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82054684039600910502011-06-15T20:15:52.939-05:002011-06-15T20:15:52.939-05:00God, what a scam. We are drowning in debt and all ...God, what a scam. We are drowning in debt and all these leftard buffoons can think of is making a bicycle free that takes you to the Mississippi? 9 million per mile for a bike path? And people wonder why federally sanctioned hammers and toilets that cost a small mint, I can get at a home depot for about $30? Anything government touches become a big, fat, bloated obese pig, just like itself. We are fucked as a country when things like this happen and there really is no end in sight. Someone prove me wrong. Please.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39508449849619790492011-06-15T12:58:50.126-05:002011-06-15T12:58:50.126-05:00Even in MA, we managed to build a state-of-the-art...Even in MA, we managed to build a state-of-the-art stadium without public funds (though there were various related road/highway projects that cost taxpayer $). If an owner can do it in MA, one can do it in MN.Lincolntfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04620264736967842427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10666588513967488412011-06-15T12:46:59.747-05:002011-06-15T12:46:59.747-05:00Scott,
Both the owners and the players say: "...Scott,<br /><br />Both the owners and the players say: "Hey, there's no way to beat the Packers this year, so let's just shut them down."<br /><br />True story. Well, I did get it in an email this morning.<br /><br />Seriously, just think about it. One mile of a fucking bike path cost 9 million dollars.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55449738033906593532011-06-15T12:09:29.075-05:002011-06-15T12:09:29.075-05:00Admittedly, though Allen, we have to actually have...Admittedly, though Allen, we have to actually have a football season first. It pains me to see the best-run, most entertaining professional sports league in the world go through problems like this.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83662026839676930322011-06-15T11:55:20.984-05:002011-06-15T11:55:20.984-05:00Big dilemma in the greater Minneapolis area, is wh...Big dilemma in the greater Minneapolis area, is whether or not the Vikings are going to get a new stadium. If you think that the last mile of the bike path was expensive, wait until you see what it will eventually cost to build a stadium.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64502511014600492962011-06-15T11:22:07.260-05:002011-06-15T11:22:07.260-05:00One word
Horseshit!One word<br />Horseshit!Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03653025261513705773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25100518573684466732011-06-15T11:03:06.742-05:002011-06-15T11:03:06.742-05:00No, we're not headed in the opposite direction...No, we're not headed in the opposite direction from China. Bicycles in this country are an amusement, an affectation, or an exercise plan. We're not transitioning to a early 20th Century transportation model, no matter how much the ATM-ophobic Luddites might like that.<br /><br />wv: horse<br />Another, greener, transportation option?Lincolntfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04620264736967842427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81494212453345500962011-06-15T10:59:36.982-05:002011-06-15T10:59:36.982-05:00bagoh20,
A Ferrari probably is an exaggeration in ...bagoh20,<br />A Ferrari probably is an exaggeration in the "30 square miles" of Madison, WI, down in the flatlands, though you probably could get a base 911 for the amount of money spent per adult cyclist.<br />Here in Albuquerque, with ~2,000 ft. elevation difference between the low end of the valley and the top subdivisions in the foothills, we quite likely could have bought each adult cyclist a Ferrari.<br /><br />However, you have to treat everybody equally, and if Madison gets bicycle lanes and trails, etc., so do we.<br /><br />The City Engineer some years ago told me he was going east on I-40 one day and saw a rider on the parallel bicycle trail, so he pulled over and took a picture for evidence that, yes, <i>somebody</i> was using it.Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03653025261513705773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76478695685231034002011-06-15T10:55:42.378-05:002011-06-15T10:55:42.378-05:00A question and a comment.
-Did then Gov Pawlenty ...A question and a comment.<br /><br />-Did then Gov Pawlenty have anything to do with seeking/getting the federal funds?<br /><br />-As China rises it sees more of its citizens abandon their bikes for cars. Are we going in the opposite direction?Phil 314https://www.blogger.com/profile/04133300763922742206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72188700712648999482011-06-15T10:04:13.562-05:002011-06-15T10:04:13.562-05:00What Jay said.
And besides, MN may be one of the ...What Jay said.<br /><br />And besides, MN may be one of the few states Little Zero carries next year.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033144261502435196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66609030513368408092011-06-15T10:03:09.009-05:002011-06-15T10:03:09.009-05:00These activists aren't very smart. They shoul...These activists aren't very smart. They should build a bank for to fund their works. Turn 1 dollar in donations into 10 dollars in loans.<br /><br />I think they might prefer politicians to be their bankers.Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571006818155115377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26061726115307896872011-06-15T09:52:50.988-05:002011-06-15T09:52:50.988-05:00Minneapolis, huh? Is it enclosed for the winter?Minneapolis, huh? Is it enclosed for the winter?Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80404149511271758882011-06-15T09:38:06.937-05:002011-06-15T09:38:06.937-05:00I wonder how much would be collected by a voluntar...I wonder how much would be collected by a voluntary donation box on the trail, and why don't public works all have these. You visit a place and say this is great and throw a few bucks into the box.<br /><br />Then again collecting the money would be government job with high pay, benefits and low productivity, and as such would probably cost more than collected. You know it's true. A government worker couldn't walk around picking up free money and do at a profit.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75029226310710031152011-06-15T09:34:32.674-05:002011-06-15T09:34:32.674-05:00The reason the federal government funds everything...The reason the federal government funds everything and regulates everything is that the States refused to do anything, claiming money problems, in the 60's and 70's when activists started ranting that corporations were poisening our water, making dangerous toys and cars and everything else. The States pointed to the Fed and said, if you want it, ask them. So it began...WaitingToBuyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10264605617709988352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84939651937162697212011-06-15T09:32:32.126-05:002011-06-15T09:32:32.126-05:00I love me a nice bike path, but if only we who use...I love me a nice bike path, but if only we who used them paid for them we could each save money by buying a Ferrari instead. I don't know the answer, but I feel it hypocritical to be for smaller government and support this kind of Federal spending, so I love them, but don't support any needing Federal funding. Of course, if I find one I will enjoy it, just like if a young groupie were to mistake me for a aged rock star, I will let it slide.bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19527173357915428812011-06-15T09:25:07.496-05:002011-06-15T09:25:07.496-05:00Other funding mechanisms.
- Tax on bicycle sales
-...Other funding mechanisms.<br />- Tax on bicycle sales<br />- Tax on bicycle tuneups<br />- coin operated air stations along the routesBrennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571006818155115377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54433938692224200182011-06-15T09:09:11.884-05:002011-06-15T09:09:11.884-05:00Would it make sense for Trek or Cannondale or Gary...Would it make sense for Trek or Cannondale or Gary Fisher to help provide funds for bike trails across the country? Perhaps they already do, but would you be okay with a <i>sponsored</i> bike trail? I mean, maybe there's signage every 3 miles with a Nike logo on it or something ... does that defeat the purpose?Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77304457274157335142011-06-15T09:08:24.526-05:002011-06-15T09:08:24.526-05:00The feds are paying because they have a near unlim...The feds are paying because they have a near unlimited capacity to borrow from the future.<br /><br />Of course, any municipality could just float tax exempt bonds to finance these projects. Heck. Those filthy stinking rich fat cats might buy them. But they choose not to.Brennanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15571006818155115377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76204744116155508172011-06-15T09:06:35.669-05:002011-06-15T09:06:35.669-05:00I ride this bike trail almost every day as part of...I ride this bike trail almost every day as part of my 30 mile route. The trail was expensive and it is a critical segment that needed doing. I think the trail is one of the better ways the government wastes our money. The bike trails help make living in a Socialist Paradise palatable.<br /><br />If you like trains you can follow them between control point Cedar Lake and C.P. Stadium. There are numerous photo locations for observing freight and passenger operations without having to trespass on the ROW.hoydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13269690586125378243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43501420102965145772011-06-15T09:02:04.885-05:002011-06-15T09:02:04.885-05:00I also bike commute, partly down a bike path (The ...I also bike commute, partly down a bike path (The SW Bike Path in Madison), partly through the worst intersection in Madison (Regent/Monroe).<br /><br />I've had meetings out near West Towne, and have biked out there on Mineral Point and Odana at Rush Hour -- that was no fun, I don't like the hill right after Whitney Way on Mineral Pt -- but drivers in Madison expect to see bikers, and I'm pretty visible. I've never felt endangered by cars. <br /><br />Bike Commuting is a great way to forget about the stress of work and to burn a few calories as well.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79444714645749305212011-06-15T08:56:07.114-05:002011-06-15T08:56:07.114-05:00On a more serious note, I bike commute - I do it, ...On a more serious note, I bike commute - I do it, primarily, for the exercise and the fresh air..and because I can. I don't mind riding the roads, but I pick them carefully. I do enjoy appreciate the trails in Madison and Dane County - they provide, generally, a safer, quieter and more predictable ride. I can see the value to downtown Minneapolis - it's linking other routes through some pretty harrowing downtown streets.kjbehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02205930548533839170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5400586912545846572011-06-15T08:50:41.049-05:002011-06-15T08:50:41.049-05:00Beware if you ride a motorcycle in Wisconsin
Moto...Beware if you ride a motorcycle in Wisconsin<br /><br /><a href="http://lacrossetribune.com/news/local/article_72d153dc-9708-11e0-b719-001cc4c002e0.html" rel="nofollow">Motorcyclist dies after crashing into wolf</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50953720976732713652011-06-15T08:48:14.958-05:002011-06-15T08:48:14.958-05:00While it's not always possible to ride on a bi...While it's not always possible to ride on a bicycle trail, it's often a pleasure to do so.<br /><br />BUT, at $9 million per mile, the per-mile cost is within ten percento of the per-mile cost of that Milwaukee-Madison train.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16099940931064117337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74732951419692199162011-06-15T08:47:35.782-05:002011-06-15T08:47:35.782-05:00And if it's going to take me an hour to drive ...<i>And if it's going to take me an hour to drive to work, might as well get out of my box and spend the hour riding to work</i><br /><br />I have a 37 mile commute that takes approximately an hour in rush hour traffic. I would dearly love to find a subspace wormhole that would allow me to ride that on in a bike in approximately the same hour.Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.com