tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post6783277757630582352..comments2024-03-18T21:59:25.608-05:00Comments on Althouse: "President Obama announced on Sunday that Mount McKinley was being renamed Denali, using his executive power..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger138125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87263841655252606012015-09-01T07:10:47.133-05:002015-09-01T07:10:47.133-05:00Oh, ha ha--Adding to my comment of a minute or so ...Oh, ha ha--Adding to my comment of a minute or so ago: I just looked it up: Yes, there is now a Mount Obama on Antigua. The previous name was ( . . . wait for it . . . ) Boggy Peak.Nurse Rookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03318016248357618944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65135565675437282142015-09-01T07:08:18.596-05:002015-09-01T07:08:18.596-05:00I believe the Antiguans have already named a mount...I believe the Antiguans have already named a mountain there after President Obama.Nurse Rookehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03318016248357618944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68889636991854873372015-09-01T00:04:34.011-05:002015-09-01T00:04:34.011-05:00I say No, because there is no reason to do it; the...I say No, because there is no reason to do it; there is no movement or drive to do it, this is nothing but a distracting waste of time, and whatever the Obama Whitehouse team is trying to get you to NOT notice with this will be MUCH MORE IMPORTANT.<br />Cletushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01267063585724115780noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69302034965334811672015-08-31T20:39:25.636-05:002015-08-31T20:39:25.636-05:00"Carter's action was intended to punish t..."Carter's action was intended to punish the State of Alaska for failing to do as he wished."<br /><br />Oh yes. Carter is a vindictive individual of little or no charm. He hates Israel because Menachem Begin didn't bow low enough to suit him. Carter is like JFK's description of DC as "Southern efficiency and Northern Charm."<br /><br />He is probably the meanest and nastiest man ever to be elected President. Obama is next.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49265900038973200012015-08-31T19:50:19.858-05:002015-08-31T19:50:19.858-05:00@Tyrone Don't misunderstand me, I am mocking M...@Tyrone Don't misunderstand me, I am mocking Matt's response to Obozo's unilateralism. I am hoping the next president chooses to let the states do what they want w/respect to the National Forest/Parks. <br /><br />I live 3 miles from the Allegheny National Forest. It was privately held, sold to the feds, with the understanding the subsurface rights would be retained and utilized by the private owners. That would be the extraction of oil and natural gas.<br /><br />The feds have continued to put up virtually insurmountable roadblocks every step of the way.Humperdinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765464624483404218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29908920654107162332015-08-31T18:58:32.379-05:002015-08-31T18:58:32.379-05:00Denali denial.Denali denial.Cynicushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01160333202085417671noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76847389343735258472015-08-31T17:03:32.182-05:002015-08-31T17:03:32.182-05:00Humperdink said...
So it's their mountain? I t...<b> Humperdink said...<br />So it's their mountain? I thought it was in a NATIONAL park.</b><br /><br />Humperdink, you have highlighted the very moment in history when I became a conservative. In 1978, after failing to get the State of Alaska to knuckle under to Federal demands relating to the resolution of the Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act, Jimmy Carter unilaterally and vindictively designated 104 million acres of Alaska land as national parks and monuments. Lands Alaskans had relied upon for hunting, fishing and mining were closed by Carter's fiat. It particularly annoyed me because in Glacier Bay, one of my favorite haunts, it was now forbidden to carry a firearm. Nobody in his right mind would gallivant around Glacier Bay without at least a .30-'06. As if to demonstrate this, an (unarmed) friend of mine got killed and eaten there a couple of years later.<br /><br />Carter's action was intended to punish the State of Alaska for failing to do as he wished. At that moment the young Tyrone realized what a tyrant was the federal government.Tyrone Slothrophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12304508836038921013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63800413198914229242015-08-31T17:02:25.451-05:002015-08-31T17:02:25.451-05:00The two Republican Senators from Alaska applauded ...The two Republican Senators from Alaska applauded the President's move. Republican politicians in Alaska already routinely referred to the peak as Denali:<br /><br />http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/09/13/denali-north-americas-highest-peak-is-now-83-feet-shorter/readeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16699913625782012426noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29160649114468923782015-08-31T16:39:02.135-05:002015-08-31T16:39:02.135-05:00Mt. McKinley have de facto been Denali for a gene...Mt. McKinley have <i> de facto</i> been Denali for a generation or more, just like a number of landmarks in New Mexico and Arizona that were named after US military officers or politicians in the years after the Mexican landgrab of 1848 have quietly been renamed in the years since the cultural Revolution.<br /><br />Obama just could not resist taking credit for something that had already happened.Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05011701168912339784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54000860018028694792015-08-31T16:16:26.079-05:002015-08-31T16:16:26.079-05:00Since this is a law blog, show me where in the 191...Since this is a law blog, show me where in the 1917 act where Congress named this geographic feature "Mt. McKinley." It does authorize a national park "in the region of Mt. McKinley" but does not name it by act of congress as the name was already established. This is the perfect troll for President Obama as it has caused ridiculous fireworks from his political opponents while everyone else is just bemused. mikeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213298861892317555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10336802763571919652015-08-31T15:41:33.247-05:002015-08-31T15:41:33.247-05:00We'll just go on calling whatever we want, not...We'll just go on calling whatever we want, not what he wants. Democracy in action.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84689401863184706162015-08-31T15:41:17.577-05:002015-08-31T15:41:17.577-05:00I trust then that Obama will take a 'respect t...I trust then that Obama will take a 'respect the locals' approach to other named locations, such as - and I'm just throwing things out there - the Falkland Islands. Alexanderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15614995710278149328noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7084484966726552462015-08-31T15:30:51.602-05:002015-08-31T15:30:51.602-05:00"OTOH, it's fair to blame him for somethi..."OTOH, it's fair to blame him for something he didn't do since he's taking credit for something he didn't do."<br /><br />I don't care about the name. I've been there and called it "Denali." It's just that Obama, like Bill Clinton, has to be "the bride at every wedding and the corpse at every funeral."Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70964308689430886862015-08-31T15:20:40.723-05:002015-08-31T15:20:40.723-05:00I don't care one way or another on the name.
...I don't care one way or another on the name.<br /><br />But the level of hypocrisy is stunning. He's going to talk about climate change, while this one trip probably has a bigger carbon footprint than a year of my life.<br /><br />Record a little speech renaming the mountain. Upload it to YouTube. Done. Ignorance is Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02338942311894099159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21825052574112391032015-08-31T15:11:44.569-05:002015-08-31T15:11:44.569-05:00Obama had nothing to do with the name change. He i...Obama had nothing to do with the name change. He is trying to take credit for something already processed through the US Board of Geographic Names, and approved by Alaskan voters. OTOH, it's fair to blame him for something he didn't do since he's taking credit for something he didn't do.ken in txhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345764031059905578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65901478277835256122015-08-31T15:10:48.345-05:002015-08-31T15:10:48.345-05:00The mountain's name is an act of Congress.
Ob...The mountain's name is an act of Congress.<br /><br />Obama has as much authority to officially rename the mountain as I do.<br /><br />Obama and Congress have zero authority to tell anyone else what to name the mountain. Want to call it Denali? Fine with me.<br /><br />Unless our Constitutional Republic has completely broken down - sadly, not something I can aver with confidence at this point - Obama is just trolling.<br /><br />Static Pinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17083787604745437979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44477580836659830322015-08-31T14:49:58.677-05:002015-08-31T14:49:58.677-05:00@Skyler. I completely agree. It's not the nam...@Skyler. I completely agree. It's not the name change, it's the "I am king and I will do what I want, when I want and screw you".<br /><br />The only way Obama reaches across the aisle is with a weapon in his other hand. <br /><br />What's really ironic is Boehner and Triple Chin would cave anyway.Humperdinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765464624483404218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34840105964681426162015-08-31T14:41:14.854-05:002015-08-31T14:41:14.854-05:00Now that I've learned of the history, I approv...Now that I've learned of the history, I approve of the change, but I do not think the method of the change was appropriate. Obama had no need to do this without getting buy in from the public. <br /><br />For a guy that's supposed to be a community organizer, he sure doesn't like to convince people to support his ideas. He's a thug and that's the only way he operates, even when he doesn't have to. It's like Hillary lies, even when there's no purpose to lying. The scorpion stings, because that is its nature.Skylerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10574746114813075566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54287947315132092082015-08-31T14:38:45.760-05:002015-08-31T14:38:45.760-05:00So it's their mountain? I thought it was in a...So it's their mountain? I thought it was in a NATIONAL park.<br />Humperdinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765464624483404218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69923102457207804612015-08-31T14:14:47.193-05:002015-08-31T14:14:47.193-05:00Humperdink
Alaska has been trying since 1975 to c...Humperdink<br /><br />Alaska has been trying since 1975 to change the name back to Denali. But the legislation was blocked by representatives in Ohio since then. So this isn't a 'renaming' at all. Naming the mountain McKinley was a renaming. Obama is simply letting Alaska have their right to name the mountain back. Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04977662030208589392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6836604962801914922015-08-31T14:02:06.052-05:002015-08-31T14:02:06.052-05:00Boy this will be a room service issue if the The D...Boy this will be a room service issue if the The Donald succeeds. He could rename every historical outhouse after Barry, every swamp and every closed coal mine. <br /><br />As an aside, the shortsightedness of this administration (and the left) continues to mystify me - they seem to think there will no successor that undue this crap.Humperdinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08765464624483404218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87200474318750961252015-08-31T13:31:03.811-05:002015-08-31T13:31:03.811-05:00If you can find someone with standing to sue over ...If you can find someone with standing to sue over this matter, go ahead. Alaska, through its congressional representatives, has been trying to change the name on the federal sites since 1975. Each time the efforts have been blocked by the Ohio representation all to protect the name of an Ohio resident who never went there. The law under which the executive order was issued was passed in 1947 and while there is a good case to be made that this order may not be proper, who really gives shit?<br />Alaska has already changed the name for the state, anyone who goes to the mountain calls it Denali, and Congress has better things to do while the Ohio delegation licks its wounds over an issue most Ohioans care little about. <br />For the record the naming only changes it to Denali on federal documents. Ohio can still call it Mt. McKinley if it wants to, in fact it can pass a law to do so and I am sure the governor will sign it. mikeyeshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05213298861892317555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88938507798386650662015-08-31T13:21:53.348-05:002015-08-31T13:21:53.348-05:00This the right thing to do. After taking Native la...This the right thing to do. After taking Native land the whites renamed everything too as a way of marking the territory. Of course, it's been called Denali by most people for years anyway so the change is simply 'official'. But it won't stop conservatives from crying about Obama abusing executive orders. If anyone feels abused by changing the name of a mountain back to what it WAS before then they must not have much of a life.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04977662030208589392noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2000200747482749062015-08-31T13:19:04.202-05:002015-08-31T13:19:04.202-05:00Anyway I think I detect some sly-ness in using a q...Anyway I think I detect some sly-ness in using a quote from a concurring opinion in that particular case, Prof, it being one in which the Court struck down a bald Pres. overreach.<br /><br />I think there's some irony, too, in Jackson's confident assertion, since in fact many Courts from that time through the relatively recent past were at least somewhat successful in reining in the Executive (w/r/t separation of powers issues).<br /><br />I'm not sure how seriously you're being, though--if you are reasoning in the vein of your earlier point about a situation wherein the draft is reinstated being so extraordinary that other normal rules wouldn't apply, for instance, then you might really believe that a crisis (of that sort anyway) would justify extra-Constitutional action. HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-66416253474974774122015-08-31T13:09:20.654-05:002015-08-31T13:09:20.654-05:00Ann Althouse said..."there was worldly wisdom...Ann Althouse said..."there was worldly wisdom in the maxim attributed to Napoleon that 'The tools belong to the man who can use them.'"<br /><br />Not that naming a mountain is a crisis. It's the opposite of a crisis."<br /><br />Admitting up front that this isn't a crisis (and not an example of a Congress gumming up the works and needing to be overcome extra-Constitutionally) undercuts the use of this situation as an example, no?<br /><br />Justice Jackson's quoted maxim (say that quickly 10 times) specifically references "the tools." If "the tools" are any powers within a branch's Constitutional authority, fine, no argument. If "the tools" mean anything a person or branch can get away with temporarily, then you've got a big problem, in that if you believe that you can't simultaneously believe in a constrained goverment/gov. of laws--which as I said I am not sure I buy you believe. <br /><br />Is "might makes right" ok as a legal doctrine as long a someone waves the "crisis wand?" Given how frequently our political leaders invoke crises--equating nearly every political objective as "the moral equivalent of war," for example--does anyone who believes in a Constitutionally-bound system of government really think that's a recipe for stability (or prosperity, happiness, etc)?HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.com