tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post6170738781621373409..comments2024-03-28T18:36:46.949-05:00Comments on Althouse: Obama's a "whiner."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56332357956420267252008-04-19T11:11:00.000-05:002008-04-19T11:11:00.000-05:00Toby: "...Obama's campaign is based almost exclusi...Toby: "...Obama's campaign is based almost exclusively on his charisma and on abstract ideas (hope! change!), not on policy. Questions about symbolism, character, who he associates with, etc. are the natural flip-side of this approach....He can't say he'll bring people together and then say close associations with figures who sew division are irrelevant."<BR/><BR/>Thats what I would have said. If I was smarter, not hungover, and had another cup of coffee. <BR/><BR/>Two sentences that counter all the Team Obama spin. Nicely done Toby.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53755415915063412362008-04-19T08:48:00.000-05:002008-04-19T08:48:00.000-05:00I don’t get the furor over the so-called inappropr...I don’t get the furor over the so-called inappropriate questions directed towards the candidates in the recent debate. If the hardcore Obama fans don’t think this stuff is going to be discussed in the general election contest they are delusional. Putting myself in their shoes, I would want to know whether my candidate could “take a punch,” figuratively speaking. They must believe that McCain will continue with his nice-guy, above-all-that approach once the Democratic nominee is chosen. Even if McCain himself doesn’t attack on those fronts there are certainly lots of independent organizations (Swift Boat Vets, anyone?) that will. Obama must respond effectively at some point. Seems to me it is better for the Democrats to find out now whether he can do it or not.Omaha1https://www.blogger.com/profile/17906834802115018347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83990343778695718162008-04-18T18:23:00.000-05:002008-04-18T18:23:00.000-05:00...and a Rush caller yesterday suggested that the ......and a Rush caller yesterday suggested that the Democrat superdelegates select McCain and let the Republicans choose somebody else.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71429359167796112092008-04-18T16:50:00.000-05:002008-04-18T16:50:00.000-05:00Good evening fellow republicans.I am going to a fa...Good evening fellow republicans.<BR/><BR/>I am going to a fabulous roof desk for dindin at friends.<BR/><BR/>Afterwards we will be going to a fabulous lounge for fabulous drinks.<BR/><BR/>And finally I will be going to a fabulous club to dance-fabulously of course.titusisnotcurrentlyhornyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021349295232830914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47678767525365539642008-04-18T16:46:00.000-05:002008-04-18T16:46:00.000-05:00SimonTo answer your question I'd say that line has...Simon<BR/>To answer your question I'd say that line has already been crossed, particularly with alot women. And it seems like they're doing everything in their power to make sure HRC supporters don't get behind him. I'll assume from the latest barrage of hit pieces on Hillary that Obama had a bad night, and they think it's still a ball game. Problem is they are irrational idiots with a complete lack of awareness that it may be hard to gauge anything from what they say or how they react.garage mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485491995866513686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55103648747465902792008-04-18T13:53:00.000-05:002008-04-18T13:53:00.000-05:00Trooper,+1 on the Lorene Shields meme. I often wo...Trooper,<BR/><BR/>+1 on the Lorene Shields meme. I often wondered what they did at home - mime nude porn? Ah, the mind wanders.<BR/><BR/>Didn't that other meme die a while back? Marcel Marceau? Or is he just miming death....? If he can't talk, how could they know not to close the coffin?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24755774390214982492008-04-18T13:52:00.000-05:002008-04-18T13:52:00.000-05:00Well Trey, dealing with five year olds should help...Well Trey, dealing with five year olds should help you deal with the commenters on Althouse.Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23821530501335638532008-04-18T13:38:00.000-05:002008-04-18T13:38:00.000-05:00Trooper, I post at work!!!!And I am a proud father...Trooper, I post at work!!!!<BR/><BR/>And I am a proud father, but the heroine of our story is actually my wife. She is a fine person who lucky for me married beneath herself. She already had the patience to put up with me, so the little ones are no big deal for her!<BR/><BR/>TreyTMinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07221261635305430323noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-737778586065890972008-04-18T13:36:00.000-05:002008-04-18T13:36:00.000-05:00Take Obama out of speech mode and he's mediocre in...Take Obama out of speech mode and he's mediocre in the extreme. Sad that the alternative is McCain.ricpichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01321511130788764861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73641211283884414842008-04-18T13:20:00.000-05:002008-04-18T13:20:00.000-05:00It becomes more clear every day that Obama is not ...It becomes more clear every day that Obama is not connecting with white small-town conservative democrats (Reagan Democrats). If you were to have asked me two years ago, would a black harvard educated man whose politcal ideology was liberal and whose political base was the Chicago ghettos, connect with Reagan Democrats, I would say no way. <BR/><BR/>But, then people thought maybe Obama could connect as Obamamania caught on in January and February and Obama appeared to be more moderate and he appeared "transcend" race. Now it is clear that Obama is not moderate and does not "transcend" race. <BR/><BR/>The real big problem for Democrats now becomes that these Reagan Democrats are starting to see moderate maverick McCain as an acceptable alternative to voting Democrat. That is how Obama will lose Pennsylvania, Ohio, and Michigan in November. It is also why McCain is going to be competitive in some liberal enclaves like New Jersey and Mass.Sloanasaurushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15787488302564761993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77671066249563023132008-04-18T12:59:00.000-05:002008-04-18T12:59:00.000-05:00Have all Obama's advisors gone on vacation? To ma...Have all Obama's advisors gone on vacation? <BR/><BR/>To make himself the victim after that piss-poor debate performance compounds the damage immensely. The comparison with John McCain, who had to endure a few tough questions himself during <B>five years in a POW camp</B>, makes Obama seem literally unfit for the office. <BR/><BR/>Barack, know what? If you get to be president, world leaders, people you admire like Ahmadinejad might <I>lie</I> to you. Yep, and they might <I>say mean things,</I> almost as bad as Charles "Grandpa" Gibson. <BR/><BR/>Rev. Wright and "clinging" are bad enough, but his reaction to how the public and press have reacted to them is what has made me conclude he's not up for this gig. I feel sheepish about all the supportive things I've said about him. <BR/><BR/>Like Carter in '76, Obama created a brilliant facade, perfectly in tune with our political moment. But, unlike Carter's, Obama's facade has not survived the process, and what's underneath it seems about as far from presidential as a politician can get.John Stodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14185881995621265497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13686644973555653642008-04-18T12:50:00.000-05:002008-04-18T12:50:00.000-05:00Look Obama is simply going with what worked in the...Look Obama is simply going with what worked in the past. But, like dating, being just whitty only goes so far. Now that we're past those initial few dates we'd like something more "substative". But Obama is like a fogbank. We can see it but when you touch it there's no substance. He's been teasing and for Democrats its "put out or shut up" time.Bobhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11415427249898754955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38891268154148085162008-04-18T12:45:00.000-05:002008-04-18T12:45:00.000-05:00Or, perhaps, temblor in a tinhat?Or, perhaps, temblor in a tinhat?reader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87872503696189877442008-04-18T12:44:00.000-05:002008-04-18T12:44:00.000-05:00"-gate" = suffix almost always meaning tempest in ..."-gate" = suffix almost always meaning tempest in a teapotreader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45262254838486861562008-04-18T12:34:00.000-05:002008-04-18T12:34:00.000-05:00Next, Obama will declare any notation of his whini...Next, Obama will declare any notation of his whining or his wife's anger as <B>"Distractions</B> from the Real Issues.<BR/>Joining Wright, his becoming paralyzed in a nuclear emergency Simulation, bittergate, terrorist pals, his lack of executive decision-making experience, his shady Chicago associates, his having only 2 years in a Federal position...all <B>distractions</B>.<BR/><BR/>Funny, when you look back in history, the initial defense that Nixon and staff gave of the Watergate break-in and the other dirty tricks were that they were <B>distractions</B> that meddling press and partisan Democrats were harping on that detracte from the Real Issues the Great Man was fighting for - like ME peace, SALT, a National Energy policy, Democracy in E Europe, War on Cancer.<BR/>Obama is going past Nixon though in declaring any issue that he doesn't feel like discussing that isn't part of his "soaring speeches" - is inappropriate for media, non-Obamabots, the public to be concerned with. Like guns - a classic wedge issue to distract voters from health care. Uncontrolled immigration - a trivial distraction when the real issue is more wind power...<BR/><BR/>Its a game that Obama has been able to play - deigning for America what issues and problems they have are Obama-worthy, and what is beneath the Obama Messiah's time. And, what positive attributes of the Great One people should properly focus on, while avoiding his negative qualities as "wasteful distractions taking people off-course from the love all should have for the Obama.." At least, it's a game he has been able to play and get away with so far...Cedarfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602418702398818596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68364233816093651352008-04-18T12:07:00.000-05:002008-04-18T12:07:00.000-05:00Obama is and has been an empty suit. His whining r...Obama is and has been an empty suit. His whining reactions to legitimate questions about who he associates with; a crackpot racist preacher as his personal pastor and unrepentant leftwing domestic terrorists, say alot about his inexperience and incredibly bad judgement. His answers also show his myopic thinking in that he thinks that such people and associations are acceptable to everyone and shouldn't be questioned.SGT Tedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00184808889760136366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79247493186413410262008-04-18T11:58:00.000-05:002008-04-18T11:58:00.000-05:00Freder--That was when the 'self-righteous goo-goo'...Freder--<BR/><BR/>That was when the 'self-righteous goo-goo' was running for state office in the '90s.<BR/><BR/>Sincerely not giving you a freaking break,<BR/>GeorgeGeorge M. Spencerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07818413936028778734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39423265384109321732008-04-18T11:48:00.000-05:002008-04-18T11:48:00.000-05:00"His internal rhythm..."Why did he refer to an Oba..."His internal <I>rhythm</I>..."<BR/><BR/>Why did he refer to an Obama's "rhythm"? This guy is obviously a racist!Tobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10474065591334245442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1957941654850961032008-04-18T11:42:00.000-05:002008-04-18T11:42:00.000-05:00That you confuse confidence with arrogance doesn't...That you confuse confidence with arrogance doesn't suprise me at all, FF.Der Hahnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05967487071137862252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34331321104215740872008-04-18T11:29:00.000-05:002008-04-18T11:29:00.000-05:00"His internal rhythm was set to "Pomp and Circumst...<I>"His internal rhythm was set to "Pomp and Circumstance." "Arrogant," scoffed a South Side radio host. Even his body language signaled he was slumming."</I><BR/><BR/>It just amazes me that people are surprised that presidential candidates come across as arrogant. You damn well better be arrogant if you think you are qualified to be the President of the United States.<BR/><BR/>Give me a freaking break!Freder Fredersonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01498410102809290399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31385365290922322632008-04-18T10:59:00.000-05:002008-04-18T10:59:00.000-05:00Garage Mahal - if it's any consolation, we have th...Garage Mahal - if it's any consolation, we have the same problem on our side with people so blinded by their hatred of McCain that they've lost all sense of proportion. I mean, for someone to say that Clinton isn't a Democrat is just brain dead. But look, here's the more interesting question (to me): does the continual ratcheting up of the anti-Clinton rhetoric from Obama supporters add (or threaten to add, should it remain on present trajectory) any kind of gloss to <A HREF="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/04/debate-tonight-ill-be-liveblogging.html#c8344836051166707042" REL="nofollow">Chris' reply to me here</A>? (The question posed <A HREF="http://althouse.blogspot.com/2008/04/debate-tonight-ill-be-liveblogging.html#c9041088961532912936" REL="nofollow">here</A>)? Is there a level at which the bitterness produced by the primary overcomes the desire of some Clinton voters to beat the GOP, particularly since, anecdotally, Clinton supporters tend (albeit not exclusively) to be those closer to the center?Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78802549000945114502008-04-18T10:49:00.000-05:002008-04-18T10:49:00.000-05:00Yesterday Rush said that McCain won the debate.Yesterday Rush said that McCain won the debate.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59849483881514781292008-04-18T10:35:00.000-05:002008-04-18T10:35:00.000-05:00The serious gaze into the middle distance Obama pi...The serious gaze into the middle distance Obama pic has begun to cloy with the vibrating women, I think.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36582884281431513342008-04-18T10:17:00.000-05:002008-04-18T10:17:00.000-05:00I understand that there's a lot of political games...I understand that there's a lot of political gamesmanship going on, but the fact is that Obama's campaign is based almost exclusively on his charisma and on abstract ideas (hope! change!), not on policy. Questions about symbolism, character, who he associates with, etc. are the natural flip-side of this approach. <BR/><BR/>In other words, he can't present himself as the healer of DC's dysfunctional culture, and then get pissy when he's called on typical political BS and spin. He can't say he'll bring people together and then say close associations with figures who sew division are irrelevant.Tobyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10474065591334245442noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81597121140672049372008-04-18T09:57:00.000-05:002008-04-18T09:57:00.000-05:00If you have insufferable WATB's like Lord Kos and ...If you have insufferable WATB's like Lord Kos and Andy Sullivan as your head cheerleaders is that question ever in doubt? But, sadly, Lord Kos says <A HREF="http://www.correntewire.com/why_wont_that_stupid_bitch_quit_watch_10" REL="nofollow">I'm not a real Dem anyways</A> so what do I know. <BR/><BR/>And <A HREF="http://tomwatson.typepad.com/tom_watson/2008/04/the-small-d-dem.html" REL="nofollow">Small Tent Democrats</A> can do this all on their own thank you very much.garage mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485491995866513686noreply@blogger.com