tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post592724477870581480..comments2024-03-29T00:04:32.434-05:00Comments on Althouse: The Daily Beast took down its article on the sexual activity of gay male athletes at the Olympics. Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44673122937684371742016-08-14T07:40:24.998-05:002016-08-14T07:40:24.998-05:00Guessing I missed the expressions of concern in th...Guessing I missed the expressions of concern in the business about posing as customers at gas pumps in order lay ground for accusations that all gas jockeys / driveway salesman are tire-slashing frauds (that line of work for those starting out no longer meaningfully exists in the US) or posing as butchery employees to lay ground for accusations that all meat-handlers at stores sell raunchy meat. No suggestion here that raunchy meat relates directly to this story, but please do wash up.JamesB.BKKhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14327552035907688020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42534770502004320252016-08-12T15:49:28.652-05:002016-08-12T15:49:28.652-05:00Having random gay sex in Rio is probably not the b...Having random gay sex in Rio is probably not the best choice for optimal future health outcomes. The place is an incubator for disease. I suppose it could be relevant to Olympic officials in various countries. Paying for cocktails of pills so your long jumper's genitalia does not fall off in the middle of a meet gets expensive.Static Pinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17083787604745437979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11272635318469527112016-08-12T15:44:56.246-05:002016-08-12T15:44:56.246-05:00Transgender/homosexuals have entered the mainstrea...Transgender/homosexuals have entered the mainstream. Almost. Blocked by patrons with conflicts of interest.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10636864569173410852016-08-12T15:15:18.026-05:002016-08-12T15:15:18.026-05:00DBQ - sorry, I mangled my post (apparently I delet...DBQ - sorry, I mangled my post (apparently I deleted a whole paragraph in the middle).<br /><br /><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/25/us/new-york-gun-permit-map/" rel="nofollow">CNN: New York Journal News Publishes Gun Owner Names & Addresses</a><br /><br />They could easily have published the info on a neighborhood or zip-code level, but made the decision to publish personal info instead even though it 100% put people at additional risk.<br /><br /><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_Finance_Tracking_Program#New_York_Times.27_disclosure_controversy" rel="nofollow">Wiki: NYTimes Disclosure of Terrorist Finance Tracking Program</a><br /><br />The point on that second one was that the program was successful and was being used as a tool to fight terrorism--Democrats and Republicans both asked the Times not to run the story (as did the Treasury Sec.) but they ran it anyway.HoodlumDoodlumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17591221162603652473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75455392207673323822016-08-12T14:02:32.119-05:002016-08-12T14:02:32.119-05:00"Brad?"
"Yes, Steve?"
"..."Brad?"<br /><br />"Yes, Steve?"<br /><br />"Have you ever had a three-way?"<br /><br />"Three-way? You mean sex with two women at the same time?"<br /><br />"Sure, two women. Or it could be two men, whoever is there, really."<br /><br />"Let me guess: you had a three-way with two men."<br /><br />"Now that you mention it: Yes. Yes I have."<br /><br />"I'm not really interested in hearing about --"<br /><br />"We were all there for the North American Championships."<br /><br />"So…"<br /><br />"So, North American Champion Sex. Nothing gay about that."<br /><br />"Except for the other two male athletes."<br /><br />"Well, only one was an athlete. The other was a room-service guy from the hotel. I think he was Mexican."<br /><br />"His lucky day."<br /><br />"I know."<br /><br />"Perhaps we can talk about something else. Like our upcoming competitions, maybe…"<br /><br />"Yeah. Anyway, I'm sucking the athlete's cock, and Ramon has HIS cock in my ass --"<br /><br />"I don't think I need to hear the rest of this…"<br /><br />"Sure, sure. You get the picture."<br /><br />"Unfortunately, I do."<br /><br />"Brad?"<br /><br />"Yes, Steve?"<br /><br />"Do you want to order Room Service…?"<br /><br /><br />I am Laslo.Laslo Spatulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723170304227216635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39624379228646673312016-08-12T13:41:46.425-05:002016-08-12T13:41:46.425-05:00"Brad?"
"Yes, Steve?"
"..."Brad?"<br /><br />"Yes, Steve?"<br /><br />"As an Olympian, I am very flexible and limber."<br /><br />"We ARE in Peak Physical Condition, Steve."<br /><br />"Brad?"<br /><br />"Yes, Steve?"<br /><br />"Are you able to suck your own cock? Because I can suck my own cock."<br /><br />"I've never tried, Steve. Nor am I interested in ever trying."<br /><br />"It's not like I do it all the time. It's just good to know I CAN do it. You know, if I needed to."<br /><br />"If you needed to?"<br /><br />"Yeah?"<br /><br />"Exactly when would that be?"<br /><br />"I don't know. If I was alone on a desert island, maybe."<br /><br />"Okay."<br /><br />"Brad?"<br /><br />"Yes, Steve?"<br /><br />"Do you want to see me suck my own cock? You know: just for fun?"<br /><br />"I have no interest in that, either, Steve."<br /><br />"I mean, I can get all of it in. ALL of it. I think it's remarkable, actually."<br /><br />"I'll take your word for it."<br /><br />"You sure you don't want to watch? I mean, if YOU could suck your own cock I'd certainly watch."<br /><br />"We're not having this conversation, Steve."<br /><br />"Okay, okay."<br /><br />"Thank you."<br /><br />"Brad?"<br /><br />"Yes, Steve?"<br /><br />"Are you able to stick your entire fist up your ass? Because I can stick my ENTIRE fist up my ass…"<br /><br />"Steve…"<br /><br />"Okay, okay. Maybe I'll save that for later…"<br /><br /><br />I am Laslo.Laslo Spatulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723170304227216635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2506333729497120562016-08-12T13:31:13.441-05:002016-08-12T13:31:13.441-05:00What about if the atheletes involved had decided f...What about if the atheletes involved had decided for their own reasons not to come out and then in the middle of competition, this decision of theirs is set aside by others for the purpose of making money. Will that help them compete? Maybe their competitors leaked their names to the reporter - he didn't name every gay athlete, did he? How did he choose? So the reporter selected some to mentally harass at this crucial moment for which they have been training and striving for years. I'd say that was unethical. <br /><br />And there is no public need to know about the subject - it isn't as if the man running for mayor of New York is presenting himself as a family man while sexting women. Or as if the President was screwing interns in the Oval Office. Or as if the First First Lady Man was selling access to everything and and everybody and every body.wildswanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11975129877750876072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35508008769019583862016-08-12T13:29:01.608-05:002016-08-12T13:29:01.608-05:00"Is it a violation of journalistic ethics to ..."Is it a violation of journalistic ethics to pose as something you are not in order to gain newsworthy information?"<br /><br />If so, then almost all of journalist is a violation of their ethics since most journalists pose as intelligent. Most act interested in the story they are covering.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04450897654318345683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81571405347367566562016-08-12T13:23:36.339-05:002016-08-12T13:23:36.339-05:00I am sure the Supreme Court carefully weighed the ...I am sure the Supreme Court carefully weighed the Pros and Cons of getting too far out over their skis in ruling from the bench on Obergefell. SCOTUS made a choice not to let grassroots and States Rights set the law.<br /><br />Now people that want to use American innovations like mobile apps and the internet want to have their cake and eat it too. Sure some countries aren't ready for that but SCOTUS duly deliberated and made a decision with global implications. Use American technology and be bound by American law.<br /><br />Are wedding cake makers and wedding photographers the only ones who must change with the times? Or might it just be possible that closeted people might feel a bit of discomfort at the fierce moral imperative of social change?<br /><br />Have you noticed how everyone is saying former congressman Mark Foley was "disgraced"? What is he disgraced for? He was a gay guy having gay sex with other gay guys. SCOTUS said we are supposed to celebrate that. So did Lin Manuel Miranda so it must be true. Mark Foley is just living his truth.<br /><br />Perhaps Mark Foley must remain disgraced (for this week) to be morally comparable to a father who poisoned the mind of a mass murderer? After all it's important to judge who stands behind a politician at a speech.<br /><br />Nobody is forcing people to use those apps like Grindr. But they are forcing them to bake cakes. Clearly SCOTUS is ok with discomfort on both sides. It's ok to break a few eggs to make the omelet. Unless you're an egg.Willhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11136257757561409957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49055191359025873442016-08-12T13:01:13.970-05:002016-08-12T13:01:13.970-05:00You seem to be unique human being. Though I would ...You seem to be unique human being. Though I would be happier if you were one of manywhitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01339343160301118530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12725293797923516152016-08-12T12:24:20.072-05:002016-08-12T12:24:20.072-05:00you're forgetting one of the biggest undercove...you're forgetting one of the biggest undercover exposes of all time!<br /><br />http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/white-like-me/n9308Real Americanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07457301904108193495noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39561830020254074082016-08-12T12:00:36.296-05:002016-08-12T12:00:36.296-05:00I always thought it was 'The Daily Breast'...I always thought it was 'The Daily Breast'. Need to read more carefully.TWWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05022485758057828472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37779390318069430882016-08-12T11:49:28.368-05:002016-08-12T11:49:28.368-05:00Nico Hines was mentored Joe McGinniss. Nico Hines was mentored Joe McGinniss. TWWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05022485758057828472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88016212540296869512016-08-12T11:45:20.534-05:002016-08-12T11:45:20.534-05:00TreeJoe said...
I think the ethics behind it are t...TreeJoe said...<br />I think the ethics behind it are the risk of exposing homosexual athletes hailing from countries in which the result could be anything from loss of their position at the Olympics to death.<br /><br /><br />I'll consider that a worth issue when the people scolding the author for writing the story, spend lots of time scolding the countries that murder people for being gay.<br /><br />The NYTimes seems perfectly fine with Muslims murdering gays. Until that changes, they have forfeited any moral authority to complain about someone potentially exposing gays to Muslim murder squads.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54435612846066502812016-08-12T11:34:23.273-05:002016-08-12T11:34:23.273-05:00This is par for the course for the CJR:
PrimeTime ...This is par for the course for the CJR:<br />PrimeTime Live’s decision to have producers falsify resumes and smuggle hidden cameras into a Food Lion grocery store sparked contentious litigation (an initial $5.5 million jury verdict against ABC was reduced on appeal to $2) and drew two articles in CJR (not online).<br /><br />PrimeTime didn't get sued for falsifying resumes. PrimeTime got sued because they flagrantly lied in their "report".<br /><br />http://www.aim.org/publications/special_reports/foodlion.html<br /><br />But not until the grocery chain obtained some 45 hours of video "outtakes" [unused film] did its lawyers realize the extent of ABC's mendacity. ABC lawyers fought tooth and nail against the release of these outtakes, during which the one-year statute of limitations for a libel case expired. With the video evidence in hand, Food Lion sought to extend its case to include libel. ABC successfully kept the libel count out of the suit.<br /><br />This report is intended to set the record straight about ABC and Food Lion.<br /><br />--It will tell you how a hostile union enlisted ABC News as a witting partner in a campaign to destroy Food Lion, and how its officers helped ABC producers concoct the lies that enabled them to get jobs at the grocery chain.<br /><br />--It will demonstrate how the undercover ABC producers performed much of the food handling mischief captured by their concealed cameras, and how the narration by network star Diane Sawyer did not match the images being shown to the public.<br /><br />--It will document how ABC producers tried to lure Food Lion workers into violating company rules on the handling of food.<br /><br />--And finally, it will show you how ABC News, the nation's most powerful TV network, set facts on their head in an attempt to deceive the public as to the significance of the jury verdict.<br /><br />Read the whole thing.<br /><br />And never trust anything from CJR / the Columbia Journalism Review.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30561667246424367472016-08-12T10:47:23.160-05:002016-08-12T10:47:23.160-05:00Ron Winkleheimer said...
Fortunately, I had not y...<i>Ron Winkleheimer said... <br />Fortunately, I had not yet gotten the coffee before reading Laslo's post, so I will not be needing a new laptop.<br /><br />8/12/16, 10:45 AM</i><br /><br />That was an "Olympian" effort wasn't it... :)Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12837407567105543162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85556300843153252092016-08-12T10:45:01.652-05:002016-08-12T10:45:01.652-05:00Fortunately, I had not yet gotten the coffee befor...Fortunately, I had not yet gotten the coffee before reading Laslo's post, so I will not be needing a new laptop.Ron Winkleheimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04176638872652336967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49065326716028314002016-08-12T10:43:08.115-05:002016-08-12T10:43:08.115-05:00Man, I really need to drink some more coffee.Man, I really need to drink some more coffee.Ron Winkleheimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04176638872652336967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27831434746772479752016-08-12T10:36:56.695-05:002016-08-12T10:36:56.695-05:00Eric the Fruit Bat said...
Going by hairdo and m...<i>Eric the Fruit Bat said... <br /><br />Going by hairdo and makeup, and effeminate behavior, I thought every professional soccer player was gay, but then I was all, like, no wait, that can't be right.<br /><br />8/12/16, 9:11 AM</i><br /><br />Why? Have you not heard of self-selection? They all could be gay, not that there is anything wrong with that...Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12837407567105543162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69448885822820499282016-08-12T10:36:08.255-05:002016-08-12T10:36:08.255-05:00"Brad…"
"Yes, Steve?"
"..."Brad…"<br /><br />"Yes, Steve?"<br /><br />"I have to say: you have a marvelous ass."<br /><br />"Thanks, Steve. As an Olympic Athlete I need to be in peak condition."<br /><br />"Yeah. But your ass: it is… exquisite."<br /><br />"Sure… But I am most proud of my core. Sure, my shoulders and arms are strong, too, but without a strong core their strength is undermined. Everything must be the best it can be at this level of competition."<br /><br />"Yes, yes. But your ass: it is like something Michelangelo would've created."<br /><br />"Okay, okay. I'll admit it: I've been told I have a nice ass."<br /><br />"With good reason, Brad: it might be the best ass I have ever seen."<br /><br />"Thanks, I guess…"<br /><br />"Brad…?"<br /><br />"Yes, Steve?"<br /><br />"I can't take my eyes off your ass. I just keep staring at it…"<br /><br />"Uh…"<br /><br />"I even dream about it: I dream about your ass, Brad."<br /><br />"I get it, I get it. You want to fuck me in the ass, don't you, Steve."<br /><br />"Now that you mention it, Brad, I WOULD like to fuck you in the ass."<br /><br />"Steve, I'm sorry, but I'm not gay."<br /><br />"Woah! Who said anything about gay?"<br /><br />"You fucking me in the ass would be gay, Steve."<br /><br />"No, no! This is not about straight or gay, men or women: this about two Olympians, at the peak of their physical condition, having Olympic Sex."<br /><br />"Olympic Sex?"<br /><br />"Yes!"<br /><br />"But that would still mean you're fucking me in the ass, Steve."<br /><br />"Yes, but I would be ass-fucking you as an Olympian…."<br /><br />"I don't think that's going to work…."<br /><br />"Well, how about you at least just bend over, naked, and I'll masturbate…"<br /><br />"Steve: I'm sorry, but I didn't do that for Bob Costas when he asked, and I won't do that for you…"<br /><br />"I understand, Brad."<br /><br />"Thank you, Steve."<br /><br />"But I've happened to notice that you have a fine cock, too…"<br /><br />"Stop, Steve: just stop…"<br /><br />I am Laslo.Laslo Spatulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01723170304227216635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90292749175293572032016-08-12T10:35:59.709-05:002016-08-12T10:35:59.709-05:00Are they kidding? I haven't watched it in seve...Are they kidding? I haven't watched it in several decades, but back in the Seventies undercover, secret camera stings were Sixty Minutes shtick and as I recall, they were getting all kinds of journalism rewards. If stings are now considered unethical, its because some leftist institution is being exposed.<br /><br />That said, I can see no good reason to publish a story about gay sex among Olympic athletes, especially when doing so could endanger some of them.<br /><br />I imagine that it was justified as not being purely prurient with the excuse that by doing so they would be demonstrating to young gays that they too could expire to be Olympians. But considering that its 2016, that is pretty much the equivalent of loudly and proudly proclaiming your hatred and opposition to slavery. Ron Winkleheimerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04176638872652336967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35795808978242914922016-08-12T10:30:11.583-05:002016-08-12T10:30:11.583-05:00It is only considered "unethical" becaus...It is only considered "unethical" because it wasn't about closeted conservative men "targeted". Had it been then "its all good"...Toddhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12837407567105543162noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29391824768185480742016-08-12T10:29:26.908-05:002016-08-12T10:29:26.908-05:00But you folks did know that Greek Olympics was don...But you folks did know that Greek Olympics was done all naked all the time. It is getting back to the original pagan ways.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53103607028335460202016-08-12T10:27:23.115-05:002016-08-12T10:27:23.115-05:00The girlfriend of a liberal friend once told me it...The girlfriend of a liberal friend once told me it was disgusting that the "far right"* treated President Obama so disrespectfully. She added that, "If you can't respect the man, you should still respect the office".<br /><br />Of course I asked about how President Bush had been treated.<br /><br />"Oh that's different. He DESERVED it."<br /><br />Same with journalistic ethics.<br /><br /><br /><br />*Lefties apparently believe there is a chasm between center and right, hence any conservative is "far" right.JAOREhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11819907966430540035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76209428844926339572016-08-12T10:21:04.960-05:002016-08-12T10:21:04.960-05:00it was a newspaper that published the names and ad... <i>it was a newspaper that published the names and addresses of handgun permit holders in two NY counties (over the objection of some county officials).</i><br /><br />Ah...thank you Hoodlum. I couldn't remember the circumstances.<br /><br />As to the ethics of journalism. I don't think that there is anything wrong with undercover journalism per se. Sometimes you need to get undercover or inside the organization to get the story. The dilemma is: weighing the importance of the story versus the harm (physical,mental or career destruction) to individual people if their identities are disclosed. Exposing people for the sheer novelty of it, or to advance your own career. Or is the story so very important to society as a whole that it would help or even save others. Exposing the abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell, would IMO fall into a story that would be a societal good. Exposing the names of all of the women who had abortions, pointless and unethical.<br /><br />In this case of gay sex at the Olympics, probably not a societal need to know or pressing urgency to expose such situation. The individuals who are outed, even if not by name but by country of origin, are now put in some difficult if not lethal situations. For what purpose?<br /><br />Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15115422951538885247noreply@blogger.com