tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post5870367398711507839..comments2024-03-18T23:08:20.960-05:00Comments on Althouse: "A North Korean factory worker has been executed by firing squad for sneaking news out of the country on his illicit mobile phone..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger116125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-20716311612821781952010-03-06T22:32:23.261-06:002010-03-06T22:32:23.261-06:00Althouse, good to know, good of you to say. Why d...Althouse, good to know, good of you to say. Why don't we continue, then? Perhaps we'll butt heads again, but I don't think that's the worst thing in the world.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7617165856689870122010-03-06T22:14:37.983-06:002010-03-06T22:14:37.983-06:00Thank you, Beth. I do very much appreciate your pa...Thank you, Beth. I do very much appreciate your participation in the comments community here for so many years.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42600144210561185122010-03-06T20:21:29.672-06:002010-03-06T20:21:29.672-06:00Jeez that Superbowl high didn't last very long...Jeez that Superbowl high didn't last very long.<br /><br />Did I tell you that the New Orleans Saints won the Superbowl?<br /><br />Yeah I don't believe it either.Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4424078193960946462010-03-06T20:11:41.462-06:002010-03-06T20:11:41.462-06:00I am unapologetically hostile to blogger's lou...I am unapologetically hostile to blogger's lousy word verification process.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33941237032462867782010-03-06T20:10:26.030-06:002010-03-06T20:10:26.030-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6510628746838306782010-03-06T20:10:26.029-06:002010-03-06T20:10:26.029-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90033024916462112292010-03-06T20:09:48.174-06:002010-03-06T20:09:48.174-06:00Althouse, my main response was to take offense at ...Althouse, my main response was to take offense at the commenters - who I did frankly label as stupid - to "turn this into an occasion to go after" other Americans, liberals, as if North Korea is just Hollywood very very East. I perceive your usage of Ebert's comment as a very intentional bit of bait - vortex bait - in their direction. So I responded both to them, and to you, for stirring that pot.<br /><br />Did that come across to you as hostility? Then I'll apologize for that. I have been feeling hostile, going back a week or more. I have a love/hate (both of those words are too strong, really, but for the sake of using an easy metaphor, I'll go with it) with this blog. I so admire the breadth of your interests and curiousity, your intelligence, your persistence, your humor (usually), but I don't take very well to your ego, your flair for the vortex, and what I see as an occasional mean streak. I hope you appreciate that by being here, in this comment world, for years upon years now, that I offer applause and approval day in and out simply by giving you my attention. But I wouldn't be honest if I didn't also boo and hiss when I think it's called for. <br /><br />You were right, though. I built up some hostility after a recent thread - let's leave it alone, it's in the past. I'll own that, and put it away. I wouldn't return here if I felt nothing more than that. <br /><br />Apologies for hostile energy offered, I stand by my evaluation of this post.Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-41962704605198217022010-03-06T19:15:09.362-06:002010-03-06T19:15:09.362-06:00Roger Ebert is a disingenuous Obama-loving tool (h...Roger Ebert is a disingenuous Obama-loving tool (he once answered one of my posts at his blog with lies regarding Canadian health care. When I pointed out the falsehood with sources, he simply refused to run it).....<br /><br />But praising his slow, painful illness is sick.harkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073907403358616607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68742566882576429212010-03-06T19:04:08.049-06:002010-03-06T19:04:08.049-06:00Paging Crying Wife!! Paging Crying Wife!!!
WV: hy...Paging Crying Wife!! Paging Crying Wife!!!<br /><br />WV: hypsy. A hippie gypsy.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78142616801730665392010-03-06T18:00:18.752-06:002010-03-06T18:00:18.752-06:00"Why be offended by my comment?"
Becaus..."Why be offended by my comment?"<br /><br />Because I can feel the hostility and because I'm really offended the failure, by Ebert and by you and others, to feel the depth of feeling the executed man deserves. Turning this post into an occasion to go after me feels *really* off. I don't understand why you want to do that here.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4239843815239782862010-03-06T14:16:10.175-06:002010-03-06T14:16:10.175-06:00Nice.
I wish I had come up with that one.
Welcom...Nice.<br /><br />I wish I had come up with that one.<br /><br />Welcome to the NFL.Trooper Yorkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01978703998566102194noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74980594315762037462010-03-06T14:05:44.315-06:002010-03-06T14:05:44.315-06:00It appears that Roger was trying to make a tongue ...It appears that Roger was trying to make a tongue in cheek comment, which failed for obvious reasons.Brianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01026800013174349238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44377541800557835932010-03-06T13:43:56.508-06:002010-03-06T13:43:56.508-06:00Next up: a Detroit factory worker for sneaking new...<i>Next up: a Detroit factory worker for sneaking news out of a GM plant...</i><br /><br />And we complain about our gas mileage!Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67373826426721434432010-03-06T13:42:36.355-06:002010-03-06T13:42:36.355-06:00I don't owe you an apology, Althouse. You bega...I don't owe you an apology, Althouse. You began the reference to Ebert with "who tweets it as a joke" - that's a direct, descriptive statement. You end with a question - should I be charitable? (i.e., you would have to offer him leeway in interpreting the tweet) - you don't say "I will be charitable." You never back away from calling it a joke.<br /><br />So, dishonest? Yes. You enjoy seeing the entirely predictable snarling and chest-thumping of your commenters and quite carefully shaped your post to push their buttons. <br /><br />Stupid? I can't apologize for that because you know very well that wasn't directed at you. <br /><br />Why be offended by my comment? You often offer up a disingenuous - "should I be charitable?" or dishonest - "who tweets it as a joke" - spin on something someone has said or done, and then enjoy the vortex or minor tempest that ensues. It's not your main schtick, but it is one of the acts on your program of performance art. Am I not supposed to break the fourth wall and point that out every once in awhile?Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16774002797359859550noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89446963755926129272010-03-06T13:33:40.114-06:002010-03-06T13:33:40.114-06:00Beth said...
More performance art.
I'm sure ...<i>Beth said...<br /><br />More performance art.</i><br /><br />I'm sure if you wrote to the great leader about attended some of his 'Performance Art' he will gladly fly you out to his Utopian paradise to watch it and then proclaim to the leftist press how much you liked it, all the while you would be giving the photographers your 'O' face. Yup, it's all Kabuki.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70228492732112695242010-03-06T13:30:44.004-06:002010-03-06T13:30:44.004-06:00Beth said...
Jeez, Ebert might as well have e...<i>Beth said...<br /><br /> Jeez, Ebert might as well have executed himself!</i><br /><br />It's a start, but it looks like that is happening more slowly for him.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47809094451823475152010-03-06T13:29:04.262-06:002010-03-06T13:29:04.262-06:00Beth said...
Instead of denouncing the DPRK f...<i>Beth said...<br /><br /> Instead of denouncing the DPRK for what they have done...<br /><br /> Ah yes, I forgot. Liberals are supposed to deliver daily denouncements of the various awful things done by various despots of various flavors around the world. Because all despots are products of American liberalism.<br /><br /> What a load of shit.</i><br /><br />So hey Beth, are you in essence an apologist for not wanting to blame this particular despot on American Liberalism, since it's American Liberalism that allows him to remain a despot or is it American Liberalism that kindly looks away from his brand of evil? It isn't about the cell phone. It's about the fact that a man was executed in a country that is nothing more than a giant prison and the world, ah, namely leftists and liberals like you tolerate it. <br /><br />Most of the despots on earth in existence today are radical leftists. American liberalism is the offspring of that leftism. Liberalism in general is used to apologize for leftists despots or otherwise. What are you doing? Liberals sure as hell do deliver daily denouncements against conservatives and conservatism. Like I said, you're an idiot. Just shut your hole.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17945667214616003622010-03-06T12:57:29.391-06:002010-03-06T12:57:29.391-06:00Two Thumbs Down
Well Roger's just one of the ...Two Thumbs Down<br /><br />Well Roger's just one of the gang<br />Pushing liberal sturm and drang<br />Progressive and dumb<br />A brain made of chum<br />Blind to the acts in Pyongyang<br /><br />....uuuu..'o^o'..nn!n....algie<br />Illegitimi nOn carborundumalgiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03570797653230681941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86340929292561758442010-03-06T12:16:27.169-06:002010-03-06T12:16:27.169-06:00Pogo: Then are your glasses insulting me? =P
You ...Pogo: <i>Then are your glasses insulting me? =P<br /><br /></i>You finally noticed!Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38719985752252087812010-03-06T12:03:14.958-06:002010-03-06T12:03:14.958-06:00Next up: a Detroit factory worker for sneaking new...Next up: a Detroit factory worker for sneaking news out of a GM plant...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15200877446470282536noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-706143660814486472010-03-06T10:30:16.475-06:002010-03-06T10:30:16.475-06:00Dying is easy. Comedy is hard. But dying comedical...Dying is easy. Comedy is hard. But dying comedically? Now that... <i>that</i>... is an accomplishment.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16517956537865658903noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-61773948704483375372010-03-06T10:30:07.740-06:002010-03-06T10:30:07.740-06:00"no picture is ever posted on the internet wi...<i>"no picture is ever posted on the internet without having some hidden meaning.</i>"<br /><br />Then are your glasses insulting me? =PKCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35271341315992242932010-03-06T10:24:58.359-06:002010-03-06T10:24:58.359-06:00Althouse: Beth, you really do owe me an apology fo...Althouse: <i>Beth, you really do owe me an apology for writing that.<br /><br /></i>I have to agree with Althouse on this one Beth. If reading Althouse has taught me anything, it's that if someone doesn't say, outright, the awful things you would like them to, the only thing to do is insinuate they meant to say them anyway. Also, that no picture is ever posted on the internet without having some hidden meaning.<br /><br />So anyway Beth, try being a little more insinuating, okay?Jason (the commenter)https://www.blogger.com/profile/16045360562791361484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85247956355202573812010-03-06T10:20:11.480-06:002010-03-06T10:20:11.480-06:00And the only reason I put Ebert in this post at al...And the only reason I put Ebert in this post at all was to give him credit for pointing me to the article. It's basically a hat tip type link, but then once I did it, I had to register my distaste for the way he wrote his tweet. It seemed wrong, and as Donald Sensing and DPRK have already pointed out, the bad feeling about it survives even if it wasn't meant to be funny.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19382231626207783462010-03-06T10:17:23.319-06:002010-03-06T10:17:23.319-06:00Brandon said..."So let me get this straight: ...Brandon said..."So let me get this straight: it's ok for Rush Limbaugh to say offensive things as long as they're funny but not Roger Ebert. Hypocrites."<br /><br />You're confusing saying RL wasn't racist with saying it's "okay" to be offensive. I never gave him the okay, and I have criticized the way he throws race around. I just defended him against the racism charge and criticized one of his critics who presented a remark of his out of context in a way that took the joke out of it.<br /><br />See the difference? If you think something that sounds offensive isn't even a joke when it was, then it's important to show the context so that the intended humor is understood. The joke may still be offensive, and my defense of RL didn't say that it wasn't.Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.com