tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post5643848152414001155..comments2024-03-28T21:25:19.470-05:00Comments on Althouse: "The longer Democrats are in denial, the longer their road to political recovery is going to be."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger102125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19165447819646517072016-12-16T02:46:44.646-06:002016-12-16T02:46:44.646-06:00MaxedOut,
"if the individual Congressmen don...<br />MaxedOut,<br /><br />"<i>if the individual Congressmen don't have to worry about genuinely representing their local voters</i>"<br /><br />What do you suppose the primaries are for? Cantor their asses!<br /><br />Kirk Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05921711310191924997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63291094756741643782016-12-15T13:56:23.523-06:002016-12-15T13:56:23.523-06:00It is the seriousness of the charges against Repub...It is the seriousness of the charges against Republican presidents that matters, that requires unconventional responses, that calls out for revolution, not the reality of the charges. Destroy the Trump presidency, because it has been charged with some serious things! <br /><br />Meanwhile, the actual corruption of the Clinton camp and the actual malfeasance in office of the Obama administration merits no charges, no charges at all, because their intentions are honorable. And we know that their intentions are honorable because they say so, themselves, while accepting graft to their charity and letting the IRS infringe on the rights of citizens. <br /><br />No standards, none at all, except double standards.mikeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17875483485290838207noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89502062746154097962016-12-15T11:20:30.489-06:002016-12-15T11:20:30.489-06:00"Like I said, when I was a kid growing up in ..."Like I said, when I was a kid growing up in Illinois, I couldn't figure out why the North went to war over secession. I knew all about slavery but they hadn't gone to war with the South over that before, so why then? If the southern states didn't want to be in the club anymore, who make them?"<br /><br />It was secession, which was caused by the slavery issue (South wanted to spread slavery into territories, North opposed, South feared as country grew they'd be a smaller minority and their rights to own slaves would be jeopardized). North didn't want any states to be able to just leave, and particularly in this case as it would leave a hostile and expansionist (into the West and Mexico) neighbor to the South.<br /><br />So yes, it was about slavery, but the precipitating cause was secession.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219319435229314554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73254525425314062022016-12-15T10:51:00.732-06:002016-12-15T10:51:00.732-06:00Roughcoat: this was no neo-anything from me.
Li...Roughcoat: this was no neo-anything from me. <br /><br />Like I said, when I was a kid growing up in Illinois, I couldn't figure out why the North went to war over secession. I knew all about slavery but they hadn't gone to war with the South over that before, so why then? If the southern states didn't want to be in the club anymore, who make them?<br /><br />And that was the answer that I had a eureka moment over. Then it made sense to me that no president would or could allow that loss of Federal property to stand.<br /><br />But, of course, the impetus and reason for the war was slavery. That's obvious.Wilburhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17648146528637449534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60129264713348601072016-12-15T09:59:22.828-06:002016-12-15T09:59:22.828-06:00Then I realized that the real problem with secessi...<i>Then I realized that the real problem with secession was all of the Federal forts, armories, and other property in the South.</i><br /><br />Actually, the bedrock problem was slavery, i.e. the South's determination to expand that evil institution into U.S. territories and to force the North and anti-slavery populations in the West (e.g., Kansas) to obey, via the Dred Scott decision, Southern laws regarding the status of slaves in the free states. It was an instance of Southerners in slavery states demanding what amounted to minority rule over the majority of Americans who viewed slavery as a moral evil and who were enraged by the South's highhanded efforts to both preserve and aggressively expand it. Southerners rather like to call the Civil War the "War of Northern Aggression" but it was the South that was perpetrating aggression in the years leading up to the war via "lawfare, e.g., with their relentless drive to expand slavery and to legally force Northerners to, among other outrages, return escaped slaves to their owners in the South.<br /><br />Sorry for the rant. But neo-Conderate revisionism concerning the Civil War makes me mad.Roughcoathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12669030540648967376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8121980881991655002016-12-15T09:43:05.603-06:002016-12-15T09:43:05.603-06:00Fabi said...
Poor, poor Chuck. He's pissed bec...<i>Fabi said...<br />Poor, poor Chuck. He's pissed because Trump did substantially better in the election than his favorite dumbass Magic Underwear Mitt -- 30 states + ME2 to 24 states. Calling that a "margin of error" victory is pitifully sour grapes, Chuckles. What's worse is that six months ago you were demanding -- demanding -- to know which states Trump could flip that Romney couldn't, because there was no way Trump could win. <br /><br />By the way, have you started your promised purge from "your party" of the people who supported Trump? Better start with the nominee for Attorney General. Lulz<br /></i><br /><br />This is a really interesting comment! (Fabi often writes interesting comments.)<br /><br />My really short answer, to your really excellent point, is that there is no need to "purge" anybody from a history with Trump as long as Trump is governing just like an establishment Republican. And I think his best cabinet pick so far, by far, is Jeff Sessions for AG.<br /><br />If your remember, or look up my old posts, about the early Trump campaign, I called out Jeff Sessions as a guy I really liked, and the oddest of exceptions to the general rule of Senate Republicans who abhorred Trump.<br /><br />For Althouse's benefit, I am waiting for the day in which Trump has to make some big LGBTQ rights executive decision. And Trump has to weigh the competing views of Ivanka Trump, and Mike Pence.<br /><br /><br />Chuckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07676108366725199186noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34993217060848871832016-12-15T09:19:49.897-06:002016-12-15T09:19:49.897-06:00Well hopefully I will be able to pick up some cool...<i>Well hopefully I will be able to pick up some cool ocean-view property after we march up the coast Sheridan Style and burn it all down.</i><br />By all accounts, California will collapse on its own, without Uncle Sugar to bail out their pension shortfall. <br /><br />tcrossehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13861315905142017219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27088597476342800652016-12-15T09:10:35.711-06:002016-12-15T09:10:35.711-06:00" Blogger Wilbur said...
"Carlson a..." Blogger Wilbur said...<br /><br /> "Carlson asked about US military bases in California - if California becomes its' own country, what will happen to those bases? Cali dude said he didn't think the world would want to mess with California because they're diverse and peace-loving folks and for border control, they do have the California Highway Patrol."<br /><br /> But he didn't answer the question - what about the military bases, national parks and the other vast amount of land owned by the USA, i.e., the Federal government? Who gets it?<br /><br /> That was something that puzzled me when I was kid - why the North gave a shit whether the South seceded from the USA in 1860-61. Then I realized that the real problem with secession was all of the Federal forts, armories, and other property in the South. You can't just cede them to what would be a foreign sovereign right on your border.<br /><br /> 12/15/16, 8:17 AM"<br /><br />Well hopefully I will be able to pick up some cool ocean-view property after we march up the coast Sheridan Style and burn it all down.Dude1394https://www.blogger.com/profile/07985533174017949978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36349108120675913422016-12-15T09:09:09.339-06:002016-12-15T09:09:09.339-06:00It is obvious that this country needs a replacemen...It is obvious that this country needs a replacement party for the democrat party. They are political terrorists.Dude1394https://www.blogger.com/profile/07985533174017949978noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89223846016708030522016-12-15T08:17:43.485-06:002016-12-15T08:17:43.485-06:00"Carlson asked about US military bases in Cal..."Carlson asked about US military bases in California - if California becomes its' own country, what will happen to those bases? Cali dude said he didn't think the world would want to mess with California because they're diverse and peace-loving folks and for border control, they do have the California Highway Patrol."<br /><br />But he didn't answer the question - what about the military bases, national parks and the other vast amount of land owned by the USA, i.e., the Federal government? Who gets it?<br /><br />That was something that puzzled me when I was kid - why the North gave a shit whether the South seceded from the USA in 1860-61. Then I realized that the real problem with secession was all of the Federal forts, armories, and other property in the South. You can't just cede them to what would be a foreign sovereign right on your border.Wilburhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17648146528637449534noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89760917697992454142016-12-15T08:10:30.997-06:002016-12-15T08:10:30.997-06:00Yeah, until they're willing to testify publicl...Yeah, until they're willing to testify publicly I'm assuming it's bullshit.Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86543391543867352472016-12-15T08:05:35.810-06:002016-12-15T08:05:35.810-06:00If any of the intelligence agencies got in front o...If any of the intelligence agencies got in front of any congressional committees, and they told the truth, they would have to admit that they can't prove anything.<br /><br />Again, this is fake news.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86093943581150092902016-12-15T07:50:14.588-06:002016-12-15T07:50:14.588-06:00So, how do we know the anonymice were from the CIA...So, how do we know the anonymice were from the CIA?<br /><br />I think all the sworn testimony we or Congress are going to get will be from "least untrue answer" Clapper.Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05011701168912339784noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2281166899857419342016-12-15T07:42:53.649-06:002016-12-15T07:42:53.649-06:00Blogger AllenS said..."It's probably beca...<i>Blogger AllenS said..."It's probably because there is no there there, Original Mike. So far, it is only the word of the Washington Post that ran the story based on two anonymous sources from the CIA. In other words, this could quite possibly fake news."</i><br /><br />NBC saying <a href="http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/u-s-officials-putin-personally-involved-u-s-election-hack-n696146" rel="nofollow">Putin did it personally.</a>. I didn't know Putin could code.<br /><br />Man, these guys are going all in on this. The CIA better get its ass in front of Congress.Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-57784130894575854612016-12-15T07:14:48.185-06:002016-12-15T07:14:48.185-06:00Democrats need to start some sort of 12 step progr...Democrats need to start some sort of 12 step program. They keep doing what they've always done and keep getting what they've always gotten.Johnathan Birkshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12028783093755775724noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55113513786029098742016-12-15T07:02:18.746-06:002016-12-15T07:02:18.746-06:00"Or keep importing a more favorable electorat..."Or keep importing a more favorable electorate, which seems to be the preferred strategy."<br /><br />Yeah, but even there they'd need to move that electorate outside of solid blue districts. Giving Pelosi and Nadler ever bigger majorities in their districts won't help them become a majority party.<br /><br />I suspect that they're going to drift further to the left, believing Hillary's problem was that she was too moderate, and they need to make Warren or Sanders (who is still not even a Democrat) the de facto head of the party.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219319435229314554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65695139815070792172016-12-15T06:54:09.510-06:002016-12-15T06:54:09.510-06:00Poor, poor Chuck. He's pissed because Trump d...Poor, poor Chuck. He's pissed because Trump did substantially better in the election than his favorite dumbass Magic Underwear Mitt -- 30 states + ME2 to 24 states. Calling that a "margin of error" victory is pitifully sour grapes, Chuckles. What's worse is that six months ago you were demanding -- demanding -- to know which states Trump could flip that Romney couldn't, because there was no way Trump could win. <br /><br />By the way, have you started your promised purge from "your party" of the people who supported Trump? Better start with the nominee for Attorney General. LulzFabihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17991749875348408368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-33893231258464791662016-12-15T06:49:01.769-06:002016-12-15T06:49:01.769-06:00"they need to appeal beyond their comfort zon...<i>"they need to appeal beyond their comfort zone"</i><br /><br />Or keep importing a more favorable electorate, which seems to be the preferred strategy.Paco Wovéhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00053886112561036768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24673658962693864672016-12-15T06:09:27.869-06:002016-12-15T06:09:27.869-06:00Not true. Continuing to believe the victory was &...Not true. Continuing to believe the victory was "rigged" will help gin up their outrage for the next four years and fire up their base. What good does it do Democrats to say "yeah he's our president now"? <br /><br />Though if they're going to fix their fundamental problem--which is weakness in key parts of the country that gives them a disadvantage in the states even while having an overall population advantage--they need to appeal beyond their comfort zone. Pleasing the Lena Dunhams of the world does not get them there.Brandohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06219319435229314554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75973318728770417402016-12-15T05:37:01.466-06:002016-12-15T05:37:01.466-06:00@tim in vermont:
What? What? You mean move out of ...@tim in vermont:<br />What? What? You mean move out of this safe space with the puppies and cookies?urbane legendhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12699110758399432397noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22466440328145532452016-12-15T05:23:17.031-06:002016-12-15T05:23:17.031-06:00Or maybe Democrats could find a candidate not unde...Or maybe Democrats could find a candidate not under criminal investigation for mishandling classified information and didn't let their work emails from a position of the highest trust end up on the laptop of a pervert also under investigation? Naah! tim in vermonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06547980465313241972noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59857186585036891112016-12-15T04:59:26.596-06:002016-12-15T04:59:26.596-06:00The California map for 2016's presidential ele...The California map for 2016's presidential election:<br /><br />http://www.cnn.com/election/results/states/californiaHThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11164697644251374452noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18663161605623814052016-12-15T04:33:54.030-06:002016-12-15T04:33:54.030-06:00Yesterday I drove behind an SUV with a safety pin ...Yesterday I drove behind an SUV with a safety pin rear window sticker.MayBeehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11966319657113124861noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47479522179082339382016-12-15T04:12:11.600-06:002016-12-15T04:12:11.600-06:00Original Mike
Because they have been briefing the ...Original Mike<br />Because they have been briefing the committee on the election "hacks" for over a year and these "sources" are Dem congressmen twisting and leaking classified information for political reasons. Someone tell me when over the last 100 years hasn't Russia tried to discredit US politics or elections? If this was/is such a serious blow to national security and sovereignty why hasn't Obama done anything about it for over a year?<br /><br />I've got another question. I saw George Stephanopoulos on ABC News the other day, has his application for Australian citizenship not been approved ?MacMacConnellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10675702658075274677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89741890684698168232016-12-15T03:39:34.953-06:002016-12-15T03:39:34.953-06:00Maybe the Democrats need to find a rich liar that ...Maybe the Democrats need to find a rich liar that can get free television time insisting that ladyfingers was born in Russia, is illegitimate, is taking away guns, storing coffins in black helicopters flown by ACORN, letting illegal immigrants build a wall so only they know the secret way in, and generally recklessly roiling up the hoi polloi against him. Nah, it would never work. EsoxLuciushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267161303770175537noreply@blogger.com