tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post5489598239057008604..comments2024-03-28T04:42:46.147-05:00Comments on Althouse: Supreme Court live-blog.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger102125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90419659578485206282013-06-18T01:57:29.520-05:002013-06-18T01:57:29.520-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.rcommalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301180339680504471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15346447025212905832013-06-18T01:52:27.200-05:002013-06-18T01:52:27.200-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.rcommalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301180339680504471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83992244546108926332013-06-17T21:30:53.561-05:002013-06-17T21:30:53.561-05:00Icepick said...
"And you don't cure gangr...Icepick said...<br />"<i>And you don't cure gangrene by handing someone a box of tissues and telling them to drink a lot of orange juice.</i>"<br /><br />Well, then we'd better hope that we're not yet at that point. Like Scalia, I might say: "Bork has essentially given up. I'm not ready to throw in the towel." Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67991250305663510572013-06-17T21:28:17.773-05:002013-06-17T21:28:17.773-05:0030yearProf, invocation has been the law for decade...30yearProf, invocation has been the law for decades, has it not?Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89330602895931709732013-06-17T21:17:37.387-05:002013-06-17T21:17:37.387-05:00Salinas v. Texas, please, Althouse--if you really ...Salinas v. Texas, please, Althouse--if you really mean that just one can be chosen, which I wish not.rcommalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301180339680504471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38945013484986959492013-06-17T19:14:44.451-05:002013-06-17T19:14:44.451-05:00Icepick, you may be ready to throw in your lot wit...<i>Icepick, you may be ready to throw in your lot with revolutionaries, but whatever the difficulties of the present situation, one does not cure a cold with a shotgun blast to the face.</i><br /><br />And you don't cure gangrene by handing someone a box of tissues and telling them to drink a lot of orange juice.Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84501615109074193092013-06-17T19:04:00.384-05:002013-06-17T19:04:00.384-05:00S. Ct. says that you have no effective right until...S. Ct. says that you have no effective right until and unless you EXPRESSLY invoke it. <br />Whether in custody or not, you MUST say the magic words: ? ? ? .<br />HELL, at this point I don't know what they are anymore. Whatever you say can be JUDGED <br />to be inadequate to give the poorly trained, ignorant, distracted OFFICER sufficient notice. <br /><br />The Supreme Court is turning the World over in order to favor the police. They must really be <br />scared of free citizens. Best interim advice is to hand them your DL and say NOTHING AT ALL other than I want a lawyer.30yearProfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08490572564579959432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90891030568440273682013-06-17T18:42:50.742-05:002013-06-17T18:42:50.742-05:00edutcher said...
"Berzerkly"
Love it. :...edutcher said...<br />"<i>Berzerkly</i>"<br /><br />Love it. :DSimonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12770684506522805282013-06-17T18:06:46.026-05:002013-06-17T18:06:46.026-05:00Icepick said...
People say stuff all the time.
S...Icepick said...<br /><br /><i><b>People say stuff all the time.</b><br /><br />Stuff? You going soft?</i><br /><br />Gets the point across just as well and one of the places where the deterioration of the culture began was the so-called Free Speech Movement out in Berzerkly about 50 years ago and I try real hard not to fall into their trap.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033144261502435196noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55518311976480509502013-06-17T17:18:53.911-05:002013-06-17T17:18:53.911-05:00Icepick, you may be ready to throw in your lot wit...Icepick, you may be ready to throw in your lot with revolutionaries, but whatever the difficulties of the present situation, one does not cure a cold with a shotgun blast to the face. <br /><br />Aridog said...<br />"<i>The form is sufficient for registration,...e.g., the presentation of information, but can it be challenged or not? If not, why the statement vis a vis truth and perjury?</i>"<br /><br />I don't know whether it can be challenged in that sense in <i>no</i> circumstance—by who and in what forum—although today's decision seems to imply not. <br /><br /><br />Crunchy Frog said...<br />"<i>The upshot of this ruling is to say, if the federal government says you have to use the form, you have to use the form. No requiring ID to register.</i>"<br /><br />For <i>federal</i> elections. States can do whatever they like for <i>state</i> elections, unless they run afoul of some other provision.<br /><br /><br />Rabel said...<br />"<i>And to illustrate that, I'd refer you to today's decision. Had you read it, … you could have avoided the ill-informed, fly-by-night and amateurish opinions you have offered up today, most of which are either off-point or blatantly incorrect.</i>"<br /><br />LOL. Good one.<br /><br />Achilles said...<br />"<i>The reason this will happen is because of people like Simon who try to subvert the meaning of government. The government is supposed to serve us. People like Simon are ok with it lording over us and dictating every aspect of our lives for our own good of course. He just wants different people in charge.</i>"<br /><br />That is not even close to my position. As I have repeatedly said, although you seem determined to ignore it, the better to create a strawman at which to thrust—I don't want to change the people in charge, I want to return government to its traditional ambit. Not overnight, for revolution is always bad. But I want to set us on a path that will undo most of what the new deal and progressive eras did to expand the reach of government. There is something splendidly silly in your insistence that I am more-or-less Justice Breyer—a technocratic big-government progressive—simply because you're too fucking stupid to realize that there are people in the world who are neither libertarians nor progressives. You're like the barkeep in the Blues Brothers—or perhaps Henry Ford is the better analog: One might have any opinion one likes so long as it's a descendant of liberalism. Simonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10065798213115341398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85117371485597560492013-06-17T15:48:56.143-05:002013-06-17T15:48:56.143-05:00Icepick asked:
"How likely would the courts ...Icepick asked:<br /><br />"How likely would the courts reverse themselves in this instance?"<br /><br />50-50. If it returns to the SC after Arizona meets the requirement to apply for state specific instructions, then the liberals will run head-on into Article1, Section 2 which has been interpreted as giving the states exclusive control over exactly who in their state is a qualified voter (within the limits of the non-discrimination amendments).Rabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02612585516401001803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-38318284738377695072013-06-17T15:31:10.722-05:002013-06-17T15:31:10.722-05:00Rabel wrote: Sneaky bastard. I love him like a bro...Rabel wrote: <i>Sneaky bastard. I love him like a brother. </i><br /><br />I don't see how that map helps. The EAC is certainly NOT going to include such a provision under the Obama Administration, and it is very unlikely that any other Administration will do so after the 2016 election. <br /><br />Which puts it all onto the courts which have already determined that (a) the federal guidelines take precedence, and (b) the federal guidelines state that proof of citizenship is verboten. How likely would the courts reverse themselves in this instance? Even if Scalia and Roberts switch sides, it's still a loser at the Supreme Court level.Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75764760318474658712013-06-17T15:20:58.511-05:002013-06-17T15:20:58.511-05:00Scalia has, in fact, drawn a map which, if Arizona...Scalia has, in fact, drawn a map which, if Arizona follows it and receives an adverse administrative decision, will lead it back to the Supreme Court but with a stronger case.<br /><br />"Arizona may, however, request anew that the EAC include such a requirement among the Federal Form’s state-specific instructions, and may seek judicial review of the EAC’s decision under the Administrative Procedure Act."<br /><br />Sneaky bastard. I love him like a brother.Rabelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02612585516401001803noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15005789312155836942013-06-17T15:20:26.867-05:002013-06-17T15:20:26.867-05:00Okay, but I'll delete them anyway. It takes wh...Okay, but I'll delete them anyway. It takes whole seconds. And if you delete your response we can maybe mystify people a little. With what I've been writing lately maybe they'll think there's a conspiracy brewing.<br /><br />Uh, wait a minute, that might now be such a good idea.... <br /><br />Oh, who are we kidding. The government's already got all the posts archived anyway. And a quick check on me would reveal I'm not even worth harassing. Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81776649234090695052013-06-17T15:18:11.661-05:002013-06-17T15:18:11.661-05:00Our tax system requires a very high voluntary comp...<i>Our tax system requires a very high voluntary compliance rate. If even 10% of tax payers decide to stop complying and the government is forced to jail and fine them it will all fall apart.</i><br /><br />It depends on which ten percent. I know people that have already gone "underground", but they don't make enough for it to matter on the INCOME tax side - they'd likely be paying nothing or next to nothing anyway. Of course, that still leaves that FICA tax ....Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32621519809703509752013-06-17T15:17:16.461-05:002013-06-17T15:17:16.461-05:00Palladian, I will delete comments as needed.
Nah,...<i>Palladian, I will delete comments as needed.</i><br /><br />Nah, don't worry about it. If there's a café post later today, stop by and we'll chat.Palladianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105490715666718993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39864661868691229392013-06-17T15:15:38.414-05:002013-06-17T15:15:38.414-05:00Palladian, I will delete comments as needed.Palladian, I will delete comments as needed.Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26463802544901897792013-06-17T15:14:52.552-05:002013-06-17T15:14:52.552-05:00The end of the United States will not come with a ...The end of the United States will not come with a bang. It will end when most of the people do not believe the government has sufficient moral authority to govern. People will just stop complying. Our tax system requires a very high voluntary compliance rate. If even 10% of tax payers decide to stop complying and the government is forced to jail and fine them it will all fall apart.<br /><br />The reason this will happen is because of people like Simon who try to subvert the meaning of government. The government is supposed to serve us. People like Simon are ok with it lording over us and dictating every aspect of our lives for our own good of course. He just wants different people in charge. As the government assumes more power we should just acquiesce because people in government graduated from Harvard and Yale and they are smart.<br /><br />The government no longer has the moral authority to dictate to us. It has grabbed too much power. Our country is going to become Europe. Our founders created a limited government. This is not what is trying to lord over us now. Europe is failing in large part because 20-50% of their economies have fled underground away from excessive government overreach. We are going the same way.Achilleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04109507896997459818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22839814631365961772013-06-17T15:14:52.358-05:002013-06-17T15:14:52.358-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27534119731993693562013-06-17T15:13:42.985-05:002013-06-17T15:13:42.985-05:00Palladian, someone told me bad things are going on...<i> Palladian, someone told me bad things are going on with you. What the Hell, dude?</i><br /><br />Yup. Very bad things. But this is not the place nor time.Palladianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105490715666718993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53016087247226252662013-06-17T15:12:11.777-05:002013-06-17T15:12:11.777-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63011996927682091092013-06-17T15:05:26.368-05:002013-06-17T15:05:26.368-05:00People say stuff all the time.
Stuff? You going s...<i>People say stuff all the time.</i><br /><br />Stuff? You going soft?Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32379560771202800852013-06-17T15:05:07.399-05:002013-06-17T15:05:07.399-05:00"Law is not a subject into which fly-by-night...<i>"Law is not a subject into which fly-by-night amateurs should stick their noses."</i><br /><br />LOL. Says someone who didn't go to law school and isn't a lawyer.Palladianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01105490715666718993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72997531749069215482013-06-17T15:04:51.273-05:002013-06-17T15:04:51.273-05:00The government today is beyond parody. The Republi...The government today is beyond parody. The Republicans, the supposed party of nativist whites, has had several of its leaders come out and say that they're done with white people and only want the support of Mexicans that don't yet have the vote - and can be guaranteed to vote overwhelmingly Democratic once they do get the vote. (Well, that's complicated by today's ruling from the Supreme Court.) <br /><br />Obama is traveling to the country of Ireland: and it is determined that it is so dangerous THERE that they need to divert two carrier groups to protect him, not to mention that extra-territoriality granted to the Secret Service. Meanwhile Ambassadors in shitholes like Libya are not supposed to have any protection.<br /><br />The Federal government is using the <b>Foreign</b> Intelligence Surveillance Court to subpoena records on Americans interactions with other Americans IN America. Meanwhile the FBI stopped investigating domestic mosques a couple of years back because, you know, discrimination.<br /><br />The IRS is now an instrument of state suppression of political dissidents. <br /><br />People whose only qualification for high office is that they will tell the most bald-faced lies to the public over and over again are now the closest most trusted advisers to our President.<br /><br />Our President has bragged about assassinating other Americans - and about having won the Nobel Peace Prize. <br /><br />We have a President celebrated as the greatest genius the nation has ever seen who can't pronounce the word "corpsman" properly.<br /><br />We have a President who can't get more than three unscripted words out without saying "uuuhhhh ... uuummmm" celebrated as the most brilliant speaker the nation has ever produced. (And sometimes he has problems avoiding such verbal dreck when he DOES have a script.)<br /><br />We have Congressional leadership that maintains that actually READING the legislation before them is a burden too heavy.<br /><br />We have any number of government officials who have become extremely wealthy through ... no one is sure what, because it sure as Hell hasn't come from their salaries.<br /><br />We have a news media that can't break any scandal about the government because they're literally in bed with the government. We have a news media that will lie about the state of the country solely for partisan gain of their favored party. (Example: How many media outlets last year talked about how well the economy had recovered under Obama? How many of those outlets pointed out that we were still, at that time, over three million jobs SHORT of where we had been when the economy fell into recession in December of 2007, and at least four million FULL TIME jobs short of where we had been? In other words, how many of them pointed out that we were still then and still now in a deep EMPLOYMENT and WAGE recession, with no end in sight?)<br /><br />We have an electorate that hates Congress, Congress has about a 10% approval rating - and that electorate can be guaranteed to re-elect 90% of them come next year because they have no idea how to even go about changing ANYTHING. <br /><br />We have a government that is completely beyond parody, completely incompetent, and increasingly imperial - and no way to get rid of it. In part this is because the system has been increasingly rigged over time to favor a particular SET of parties. And we're now stuck with those parties no matter what we do. Or rather, no matter what we do IN THIS SYSTEM.<br /><br />The only way out is to ditch the whole damned system. Thus the NEED for a Constitutional Convention. I propose that the first article in a new Constitution be dedicated to definitions of basic concepts like Citizen, how Citizenship is earned or granted, what contitutes an election, what requirements are DEMANDED of those attempting to vote, and so forth.<br /><br />Icepickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09616554052707230326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12247310883611183972013-06-17T14:53:25.300-05:002013-06-17T14:53:25.300-05:00And Choom said if you liked your plan, you could k...And Choom said if you liked your plan, you could keep it.<br /><br />People say stuff all the time.edutcherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15033144261502435196noreply@blogger.com