tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post4801206524416249109..comments2024-03-28T07:26:00.122-05:00Comments on Althouse: "In the old days we had these communal fireplaces. And then we had cathedrals, and so the arena is kind of the communal fireplace of the 21st century. It’s the new cathedral."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81291291449186910432016-10-04T18:27:02.529-05:002016-10-04T18:27:02.529-05:00Or making a deliberate imitation of irony in poor ...Or making a deliberate imitation of irony in poor photoshop plus Ciccollina. <br /><br />Give me sincerity. It may end up ironic by accident. buwayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388691837737324814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87496544048217149212016-10-04T18:24:43.062-05:002016-10-04T18:24:43.062-05:00"Once again I get the sense that irony is a f..."Once again I get the sense that irony is a foreign language here, "<br /><br />Irony is something one should observe in the wild. <br />It is like discovering the glory of a wild flower, enchanting you with the unlooked for glory of the thing. <br /><br />Deliberate irony in art is making an imitation in plastic and insisting that it be admired. buwayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02388691837737324814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5799044079136649942016-10-04T16:37:25.005-05:002016-10-04T16:37:25.005-05:00Interesting that Vivek Ranadive is the title of ch...Interesting that Vivek Ranadive is the title of ch 1 in M Gladwells book "David and Goliath." <br /><br />It's a great anecdote about the software co. owner from Mumbai who knows nothing of basketball and how he coaches his young daughters' team of "nerdy" girls to beat all the best teams in the state by implementing an unorthodox strategy to frustrate their opponents.<br /><br />I guess he's moved on to bigger courts.320Busdriverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00409874234953203213noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24294534179030199602016-10-04T16:25:42.135-05:002016-10-04T16:25:42.135-05:00Once again I get the sense that irony is a foreign...Once again I get the sense that irony is a foreign language here, if understood at all. Koons indeed has “successfully portrayed the lack of substance, the emptying out of contemporary life for a couple of decades.” I would think that’s a significant artistic achievement.Roberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915060564192864164noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73940337601041601842016-10-04T14:31:08.649-05:002016-10-04T14:31:08.649-05:00Sacramento clearly deserves what it got -- it may ...Sacramento clearly deserves what it got -- it may be the only place on earth with more corruption per square inch than Albany. Anyway, hope they like it. <br /><br />The Dubuffet is a hoot and plays well with (and against) the Nevelson pieces in the square just down and around the corner. Nevelson Plaza is a very rare instance in which the GSA's art program generated something worth viewing, a success attributable in no small measure to the fact that the Nevelsons were bought and installed at the beginning of that program, before it too went the way of the bureaucratic world.Richard Dolanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12735773524374061429noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64911603949362865812016-10-04T13:50:58.618-05:002016-10-04T13:50:58.618-05:00Jeff Koons is the perfect artist for these times Jeff Koons is the perfect artist for these times whitneyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01339343160301118530noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21862335341275156252016-10-04T13:14:51.188-05:002016-10-04T13:14:51.188-05:00Fool. Money. Disassembly required.
Fool + Greate...<i>Fool. Money. Disassembly required.</i><br /><br /><br />Fool + Greater Fool = Profit$$$!rehajmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14554135440560051175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78016846501294277192016-10-04T12:40:32.559-05:002016-10-04T12:40:32.559-05:00Fool. Money. Disassembly required.Fool. Money. Disassembly required.Sam L.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00996809377798862214noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29838664137330285212016-10-04T12:16:16.206-05:002016-10-04T12:16:16.206-05:00The ostensible goal in art is to lose inhibition....The ostensible goal in art is to lose inhibition. However, art education does little to raise any awareness about the difference between the childlike and the childish.BillyTalleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11731812156816305835noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27185431594479963302016-10-04T11:21:30.517-05:002016-10-04T11:21:30.517-05:00Not to mention that even if we did have a "co...Not to mention that even if we did have a "communal fireplace" in Sacramento we wouldn't be allowed to use it due to air quality regulations.Just_Mike_Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08087796585670814175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90142555035021403962016-10-04T11:18:26.548-05:002016-10-04T11:18:26.548-05:00FFS! First the Indo Arch, then the Baggage Tower a...FFS! First the Indo Arch, then the Baggage Tower and now this. *hides face, slinks away*Just_Mike_Shttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08087796585670814175noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15429935740997727672016-10-04T10:50:08.759-05:002016-10-04T10:50:08.759-05:00And Sacramento, the city, is monumentally corrupt,...And Sacramento, the city, is monumentally corrupt, just to note that.buwayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369134902650235470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21359601196802931722016-10-04T10:34:01.289-05:002016-10-04T10:34:01.289-05:00"It was built to be the hometown football sta..."It was built to be the hometown football stadium for the Sacramento Kings..."<br /><br />wildswan, Google Sacramento Kings.CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3653595059472553792016-10-04T10:24:35.249-05:002016-10-04T10:24:35.249-05:00When not just the owners (by moving teams) but als...When not just the owners (by moving teams) but also the players (by taking a knee) become openly contemptuous of the fans (who have to pay a lot to watch this contempt for themselves) - then where is the "sport" of football going?<br /><br />None of this happens with the Packers which is just another reason why they're great.wildswanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11975129877750876072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73039047336960693272016-10-04T10:17:53.204-05:002016-10-04T10:17:53.204-05:00The agreement for the new arena included the stipu...The agreement for the new arena included the stipulation that the old arena, the perfectly fine Sleep Train née Arco Arena can not host any events anymore. Their last events were circuses last month, both Ringling Bros and Circus Vargas came into town. <br /><br />So a perfectly fine, if not cutting edge opulent, arena is prevented from being used to keep down competition. Impacting the businesses in the Natomas neighborhood of Sacramento. Such is Sacramento. <br /><br />Meanwhile, the mayor gets a pie thrown in his face and beats the pie thrower senseless. The pie thrower is charged with assault. <br /><br />bzzzzzPaddy Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442537362540160512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49416185937848419432016-10-04T10:11:46.594-05:002016-10-04T10:11:46.594-05:00It's now about 15 years old, Our Lady of the ...It's now about 15 years old, Our Lady of the Angels in Los Angeles is a new Cathedral that is an actual Cathedral. And it's much more architecturally interesting than the Arena. It's a text of theology as well as a building. Probably reaches as many people too. <br /><br />The new Sacramento arena is both exciting and controversial. Exciting because it kept the Kings in Sacramento, and it was a big push for revitalization. Controversial for all kinds of reasons including cost. Their old arena, Sleep Train, is in a very open area, making for easy traffic flow and access. The new arena puts a huge burden on local communities, with the team reimbursing Sacramento costs for traffic control, but not the almost equally impacted West Sacramento. <br /><br />I'm a little sad because I moved to the area last year and live a few miles from the old arena. I was thinking of getting tickets, as I could walk there from my work. But, I'm not going to do that now. Too much hassle. And watching professional sports is a lot more like rooting for corporations than enjoying games. They demand loyalty but give none, always willing to go where the better money is. <br /><br />I love playing sports, but watching them becomes an exercise in manipulation. I'd rather play in the park with my kids. Paddy Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10442537362540160512noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10766702552097495462016-10-04T10:06:06.919-05:002016-10-04T10:06:06.919-05:00That piglet thing makes no sense at all. My eyes w...That piglet thing makes no sense at all. My eyes would take it in as just some advertising thingamabob, a billboard or something selling a phone service. The stadium itself, in Sacramento, isnt a terrible building as these things go. I have seen it in many stages of construction as I am there regularly. <br />The artist deals in manufactured irony, as so many of these guys do. I dont understand the taste for this. buwayahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02369134902650235470noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69782122247248060402016-10-04T10:04:58.729-05:002016-10-04T10:04:58.729-05:00It was built to be the hometown football stadium f...It was built to be the hometown football stadium for the Sacramento Kings which is why the owner of the Kings put up his money and chose the sculpture. Off season it hosts other events. Piglet does not belong there or at Disney World either, if you want my true opinion. But outside a football game it is total incongruity and not enlightening either. Whereas at Disney World as far as I know children like his image. But it is not Piglet's image - it is a Disney redrawing of the image. The real Piglet image wouldn't work there even for children which says it all. wildswanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11975129877750876072noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17043373220437879962016-10-04T10:03:25.744-05:002016-10-04T10:03:25.744-05:00If we have a "communal fireplace" today,...If we have a "communal fireplace" today, that "fireplace" surely is ... the Internet?<br /><br />In any case, we don't seem to live in an age of great (or even good) public art. The reasons for that may be endlessly debatable, but the art objects themselves seem to vary from the common dull/bland/boring (but often very large) to the occasional shock-for-the-sake-of-shock schlock.<br />Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16099940931064117337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88223338337938530012016-10-04T09:51:30.142-05:002016-10-04T09:51:30.142-05:00"Professional sports, like the NBA, are busy ..."Professional sports, like the NBA, are busy marginalizing themselves with idiotic 'demonstrations' like the Rams 'hands up' and the 49ers Kaepernick."<br /><br />The article isn't at all about demonstra...... Oh, never mind. Strange day at the Althouse comment thread.<br /><br />CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25729248634258538862016-10-04T09:46:19.804-05:002016-10-04T09:46:19.804-05:00Chuck, You have to go back a bit, a sculpture of a...Chuck, You have to go back a bit, a sculpture of a discus thrower,<br />The Discobolus, 460-450 BCdustbunnyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14379763339950671076noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88604422597258857642016-10-04T09:44:32.087-05:002016-10-04T09:44:32.087-05:00wildswan said...
I think Piglet is totally out of...wildswan said...<br /><br /><i>I think Piglet is totally out of place at a football stadium.</i><br /><br />What do you think footballs are made out of?Ignorance is Blisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02338942311894099159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10467962411545268802016-10-04T09:42:03.716-05:002016-10-04T09:42:03.716-05:00One person's art is another person's WTF!One person's art is another person's WTF!Clydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16736461252925227611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51711288110183389712016-10-04T09:41:41.052-05:002016-10-04T09:41:41.052-05:00Gustave Eiffel wrought some of most ironic sculptu...Gustave Eiffel wrought some of most ironic sculpture ever. chickelithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10773887469972534979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39805853070462556382016-10-04T09:41:18.382-05:002016-10-04T09:41:18.382-05:00"I think Piglet is totally out of place at a ..."I think Piglet is totally out of place at a football stadium."<br /><br />It's not a football stadium.CWJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03598487232861475833noreply@blogger.com