tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post4627462288855939893..comments2024-03-28T11:09:16.778-05:00Comments on Althouse: WI Assemblyman Mark Pocan confronts CEO president Roger Clegg, calling him "some guy" who "came all the way from Virginia" to tell us what "all us flyover country folk don't know."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger91125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-75462433998003879022011-10-18T21:58:06.037-05:002011-10-18T21:58:06.037-05:00As for Madison being what it is-- one of the most ...<i>As for Madison being what it is-- one of the most comfortable and desirable cities in the country-- gosh how did all those liberals manage to do that Althouse?</i><br /><br />How did they manage it? With tax dollars harvested from evil capitalists.Automatic_Wing https://www.blogger.com/profile/10174899673368042634noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28637592648984244712011-10-18T20:18:06.783-05:002011-10-18T20:18:06.783-05:00Looks like Pocan is taking a page from Palin when ...Looks like Pocan is taking a page from Palin when he talks about the East Coast ignoring the flyover country folks here in Wisconsin. As for Madison being what it is-- one of the most comfortable and desirable cities in the country-- gosh how did all those liberals manage to do that Althouse?roesch/voltairehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09943026999545809312noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37897755492676324612011-10-18T14:30:12.033-05:002011-10-18T14:30:12.033-05:00Althouse wrote:
It's simply a matter of livin...Althouse wrote:<br /><br /><i>It's simply a matter of living in a very liberal city. The representatives chosen here are going to be liberals. I'm not calling them 2 evils. I'm saying they are in the ideological range that I expect, and I will pick the one I think is better. I believe in voting, and I'm not going to get all bent out of shape about it. I'm not being forced to live here. It is what it is.</i><br /><br />Douglas Adams wrote:<br /><br /><i>"It comes from a very ancient democracy, you see..."<br /><br />"You mean, it comes from a world of lizards?"<br /><br />"No," said Ford, who by this time was a little more rational and coherent than he had been, having finally had the coffee forced down him, "nothing so simple. Nothing anything like so straightforward. On its world, the people are people. The leaders are lizards. The people hate the lizards and the lizards rule the people."<br /><br />"Odd," said Arthur, "I thought you said it was a democracy."<br /><br />"I did," said Ford. "It is."<br /><br />"So," said Arthur, hoping he wasn't sounding ridiculously obtuse, "why don't the people get rid of the lizards?"<br /><br />"It honestly doesn't occur to them," said Ford. "They've all got the vote, so they all pretty much assume that the government they've voted in more or less approximates to the government they want."<br /><br />"You mean they actually vote for the lizards?"<br /><br />"Oh yes," said Ford with a shrug, "of course."<br /><br />"But," said Arthur, going for the big one again, "why?"<br /><br />"Because if they didn't vote for a lizard," said Ford, "the wrong lizard might get in. Got any gin?"</i>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10708910912937472232011-10-18T12:59:27.164-05:002011-10-18T12:59:27.164-05:00Wait...why is admission to UW so valuable? What a...Wait...why is admission to UW so valuable? What a crap institution.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81011042607968747472011-10-18T11:43:05.346-05:002011-10-18T11:43:05.346-05:00Or the possibility that those failed students had ...<i>Or the possibility that those failed students had no business being in college in the first place, and the Administration knew it, and took their money anyway.<br /><br /></i>There are many people who don't belong in college in the first place. (Some are professors). But the education bubble machinery demands that you go and get a degree.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51938141833511007152011-10-18T11:16:45.550-05:002011-10-18T11:16:45.550-05:00who benefits? if graded on a curve, some less qual...who benefits? if graded on a curve, some less qualified fodder sure doesn't hurt the more qualified.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12133279828547003387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-85806961556239926702011-10-18T10:12:20.431-05:002011-10-18T10:12:20.431-05:00Good articleGood articleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-15820466104229397212011-10-18T10:02:08.210-05:002011-10-18T10:02:08.210-05:00Educational assessment issues down at the Althau...Educational assessment issues down at the Althaus hardware store, goldangit. <br /><br />Maybe just keep it purely meritocratic (and open to international students) as UCs are now--and thus have it mostly asians and jew with a smattering of whites, hispanics and blacks. Biff n Bunny are a thing of the past, irregardless.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87896051591852525612011-10-18T09:48:06.539-05:002011-10-18T09:48:06.539-05:00MadisonMan said...
"There are two possibilit...MadisonMan said... <br /><i>"There are two possibilities...</i>": <br /><br />Or the possibility that those failed students had no business being in college in the first place, and the Administration knew it, and took their money anyway.<br /><br />It's a scam on poor uneducated blacks, keeping them poor and uneducated, after briefly dangling the promise of a degree and a better life.<br /><br />Though they may have been better off becoming machinists making $70K, that would not have made UW Madison feel good about itself.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69868092059619079942011-10-18T09:39:03.788-05:002011-10-18T09:39:03.788-05:00Maybe poke Madison Man and see what he thinks. I d...<i>Maybe poke Madison Man and see what he thinks. I don't have an answer for you.<br /><br /></i>There are two possibilities: Faculty who don't know how to teach, or students who have no experience learning in a University setting.<br /><br />I think a more interesting statistic would be: Students who have had parents go to college vs. students who have not had parents go to college. What are the dropout rate differences in those groups? Is there any reason why one of those groups might be disproportionately white or black?MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-79270280388926206112011-10-18T09:24:08.624-05:002011-10-18T09:24:08.624-05:0014% minori-tees in UW--that's 14% too much f...14% minori-tees in UW--that's 14% too much for Ann Weisshaus and Clegg of the Heritage gang-, keepin' collegetown white.Jhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11567400697675996283noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2746693569315122352011-10-18T08:57:12.079-05:002011-10-18T08:57:12.079-05:00"Assembly Committee on Colleges and Universit..."Assembly Committee on Colleges and Universities."<br /><br /><br />Let those words in that order soak in before commenting on this entire article.Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-26666986969236916502011-10-18T08:53:29.940-05:002011-10-18T08:53:29.940-05:00"He also pointed out that only 14 percent of ..."He also pointed out that only 14 percent of UW-Madison students are minorities..."<br /><br />So I guess they're counting the Indians, Asians, Hispanics, Pacific Islanders, Leprechauns, Star People, etc. as part of the "minority" catch-all. So hard to keep up with the current nomenclature for racial divisions in public institutions these days. <br />Anyway, until the state of WI gets up to the national average of 12.6% African-American, they should be boycotted by all decent people.Lincolntfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04620264736967842427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25149439980832429882011-10-18T08:50:55.093-05:002011-10-18T08:50:55.093-05:00Pogo
Maybe poke Madison Man and see what he thinks...Pogo<br />Maybe poke Madison Man and see what he thinks. I don't have an answer for you.garage mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485491995866513686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54441546827134849332011-10-18T08:47:12.901-05:002011-10-18T08:47:12.901-05:00Paul DeLuca Jr., UW-Madison provost and vice chanc...<i>Paul DeLuca Jr., UW-Madison provost and vice chancellor for academic affairs, stressed that academic performance remains the key factor in admissions. At the same time, though, the school wants to build a diverse student body.</i><br /><br />Did he run that by the UW Math Department?<br /><br />"We want <i>X</i>. At the same time, we want <i>not-X</i>"<br /><br />Good grief.SomeoneHasToSayIthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03648946322945404947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81485039871431026002011-10-18T08:37:29.178-05:002011-10-18T08:37:29.178-05:00So, garage, any opinion on UW Madison's dismal...So, garage, any opinion on UW Madison's dismal graduation rate for blacks?<br /><br />Why no outrage about taking their money when there is no way they'll graduate?<br /><br />So you let 1/5th take out loans they have no way of paying back. Nice.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44415640601943799662011-10-18T08:31:14.670-05:002011-10-18T08:31:14.670-05:00So if UW has 14% black students, then they have mo...<i>So if UW has 14% black students, then they have more than double the percentage of the State as a whole</i><br /><br />Try 2% African American.garage mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485491995866513686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91342355678209170752011-10-18T08:30:43.375-05:002011-10-18T08:30:43.375-05:00I thought the name was 'coastie' not '...I thought the name was 'coastie' not 'coaster'. Coastie to match Sconnie.<br /><br />A coaster protects a wood table from glass condensate.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90710135150083452502011-10-18T08:17:51.655-05:002011-10-18T08:17:51.655-05:00As Stan intimates, Pocan had no problem with anoth...As Stan intimates, Pocan had no problem with another "some guy" (Jesse Jackson) coming all the way from DC to tell all us what out-state flyover country folk don't know about unions...<br /><br /><i>Rev. Jesse Jackson and Democratic assembly members Rep. Mark Pocan and Rep. Joe Parisi are now negotiating with police at King Street door...</i>March 10, 2011Calypso Factohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01455217189407301218noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19958691051760215482011-10-18T08:10:04.945-05:002011-10-18T08:10:04.945-05:00The Federal government is the ultimate outside agi...The Federal government is the ultimate outside agitator.caplighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00983163610332465182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60635563593244264962011-10-18T08:08:31.586-05:002011-10-18T08:08:31.586-05:00Pogo - I owned a 1972 Vega. Affirmative Action is ...Pogo - I owned a 1972 Vega. Affirmative Action is way better. That's not saying much.Moosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10611979723230966040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12080012177149449712011-10-18T08:06:34.735-05:002011-10-18T08:06:34.735-05:00Black persons, percent, 2010 (a)
USA: 12.6%
Wis...Black persons, percent, 2010 (a) <br /><br />USA: 12.6%<br /><br />Wisconsin: 6.3%<br /><br /><br />So if UW has 14% black students, then they have more than double the percentage of the State as a whole. They also exceed the national percentage by a point or two. When exactly will they have "caught up"? Never, because it's not about opportunity, it's about maintaining racial divisions and continuing a culture of grievance funding, without which half the "Academics" in this country would be out of work.Lincolntfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04620264736967842427noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5292037956732778582011-10-18T08:03:48.432-05:002011-10-18T08:03:48.432-05:00I never owned a Vega. Always knew they were junk.I never owned a Vega. Always knew they were junk.caplighthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00983163610332465182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88750121832892774882011-10-18T07:43:52.954-05:002011-10-18T07:43:52.954-05:00PJ said..."why doesn't that amount to exp...PJ said...<i>"why doesn't that amount to exploitation of the diversity admissions for the benefit of the non-diversity admissions?</i>"<br /><br /><b>2006 Black/white graduation Rate gap at Florida state University Compared to UW Madison</b>:<br /><br />Florida State University FL <br />Total 39,973 students, Gap 3% <br />(i.e. blacks graduation rate was MORE than whites)<br /><br />University of Wisconsin–Madison WI<br />Total 41,028 students, Gap -22%KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71958537024159878722011-10-18T07:38:27.200-05:002011-10-18T07:38:27.200-05:00If Affirmative Action were a car, it'd be a 19...If Affirmative Action were a car, it'd be a 1972 Chevrolet Vega.<br /><br />Ultimately it will rust away, but for now we're stuck with a badly built vehicle that runs on bullshit.<br /><br />It's 1977, and Mark Pocan is the labor boss fighting to keep the plant open, to keep on building that shitty car, pretending it's a goddamned Camaro.<br /><br />Sure, the Vega fan club has its die-hards, but the rest of us sheepishly admit that though we used to own one, and now we know better. <br /><br />Others were never taken in by the hype at all.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.com